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Not an important artist?

I think that you should perhaps have a graduate degree or at least finish high school before you nominate a deletion (Lialina) as not appearing to be an important artist. Stick with popular music and dating. Amanniste (talk) 14:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks!

thanks, I was in the process of straightening things up myself, but your lightning support was even more effective :) Pundit|utter 00:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Natalee Holloway

I notice that you placed a {{verylong}} tag on Natalee Holloway. Since the article falls below length guidelines, it might be helpful if you wandered by the discussion page and explained what you think should be done.Kww (talk) 11:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Life in a Northern Town

Everything I can find about Sugarland's version of "Life in a Northern Town" indicates that it's a video only release. Eric444 (talk) 13:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Rhett Akins website

I see you have removed the link to www.rhettakins.net. It seems you have removed this link before. Why do you keep removing this link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.53.111.108 (talk) 14:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On February 26, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Carter's Chord, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well done, TenPoundHammer, thanks for responding to the query. Blnguyen (photo straw poll) 02:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Carrie Underwood Discography

Can you come here to share your opinions about all formats on Carrie Underwood discography? I will be very thankful.Langdon (talk) 00:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)i7114080

Song Redirects

What do you suppose would happen if you redirected the song "Yesterday" by the Beatles to the article "Beatles", or if you redirected the song "He Stopped Loving Her Today" to the article George Jones? I believe there would be quite loss of information and quite a problem created. The same standards should apply to all songs. Songs are standalone researchable articles. To redirect a song, loses the vitals on the song. The recording however is a different animal. It is ok to include as much information as possible about a recording of a song by an artist in an artist's article, but don't you think the song as a separate article should remain? Why should a hit song be permanently tied within Wiki to one artist, when the artist's article can clearly link to the song, broadening the benefits of research. Also, the focus on what is a "notable" song and what is not "notable" should not be for one person to decide if the song was a chart hit. Good discussion and I appreciate the cooperation. Wikibones (talk) 14:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Possible solution...you title an article titled "If I Was A Drinkin' Man (Neal McCoy recording)" and direct THAT to Neal McCoy. I will write an article called "If I Was A Drinkin' Man (song), and keep the vitals on the song that are not necessarily related to Neal McCoy's recording. Regarding what is notable and what is not, I think most at Wiki would like to keep subjective thinking out of it. Certain standards have to apply. If a song was a hit, regardless of who recorded it, seems it should remain a standalone song article and therefore expanding the researchable data to multiple purposes (other than just learning about one artist's career). Wikibones (talk) 14:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

You seem unable to see that a song is a song, and a record is a record, and that both the song articles and the artist articles have one-to-many relationships to other data . Also, I cannot believe you are referencing All Music Guide, one of the most incomplete, un-updated, difficult to correct, ill-cross referenced, mistake-filled sources you can use. I know the publication well. You cannot count on that publication as much of a source. Have you ever tried to correct anything at All Music Guide?? Almost impossible. This whole song redirect thing is an absurd argument. For you to redirect songs to an artist's album page is inconsistent with every song article in Misplaced Pages, but you continue to want to enhance your own artist articles at the expense of other's song articles. Some of us are focused on songs, some of us are focused on artists. Let the two articles remain valuable independent sources and benefit from the existance of each...link them. Don't erase one or the other with a complete redirect. Redirecting a song articles to one artist's album is no different than someone doing an article on Atlantic Records and redirecting every artist article (anyone who ever recorded for Atlantic) to the Atlantic Records article. Like I said earlier, and I will give you another scenario, why don't you go try to redirect every song ever recorded by Frank Sinatra to the Frank Sinatra article and see what happens. Or...try someone less famous. Try taking every song recorded by Kenny Rogers and directing them to Kenny Rogers and see what happens. Where do you draw the line? Apparently your Neal McCoy article is so important to you that you want every song Neal ever recorded directed to Neal McCoy. The songs in some cases are bigger than Neal McCoy. In the same way you are using your own personal measure of what songs are "notable" and which ones are not, someone may come along (hypothetically speaking) and decide that Neal McCoy isn't "notable" enough to have an article, or that Neal McCoy needs to be redirected to a larger article on Country Music Singers. Your actions on these song redirects is destructive to the vital information on songs, and when you mix that with your subjective decisions on what song is worthy of an article and what songs are not, it gets very strange, and deserving of protest. Wikibones (talk) 23:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Steve's Ice Cream

Thanks for the WP:GOOGLEHITS site. I'll read up on there more. PGPirate 14:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Doug Stone

Thanks! --Martin4647 (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I Am Clueless

Thanks for fixing up that merging problem. :P I don't know why I can't figure out how to do that. I've done it before... -WarthogDemon 22:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

AFD closing

I noticed your recent close of WP:Articles for deletion/Steve's Ice Cream as I closed the very odd MFD of the talk page. I didn't plan on tagging the talk page with {{oldmfd}} as the nomination seemed to be due to a misunderstanding of talk page deletions and speedy closed. But I didn't see an {{oldafdfull}} tag from you which surprised me. Wondered if you forgot so I thought I'd mention it.--Doug. 01:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Obama-Feingold act

Per your comment that a speedy criteria does not cover pages like this, the G3 vandalism speedy also covers blatant hoaxes. I arrived late to this discussion, as it was already closed, but I think that a G3 may have been appropriate if the article was as described. DarkAudit (talk) 16:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Don King (singer)

Ooooooooooh, wasn't this on your list??? ;-) - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 19:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It REALLY needs help with resources for discography and charting. I'm having a horrible time of it... - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 20:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Hm, that makes this template, {{Uw-italicize}}, a bit misleading... Thanks for the clarification. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 05:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Roy Leep

Looking at the article, I figured that was probably the reason; unless he's in some sort of Weatherman's Hall of Fame, I think he's probably not notable enough. I was just giving you a hard time. Apparently, there was some reason people were voting "keep" in the last discussion; looks like this is one of those "Good Morning Tampa" things, I don't know. Mandsford (talk) 21:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

My first barnstar!! Thanks. Why do they call it a barnstar? No, please, don't tell me... I'd rather leave that to my imagination. Mandsford (talk) 21:50, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Looks like I thanked the wrong person for a barnstar. Please disregard the expression of gratitude referenced above. Mandsford (talk) 21:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

About the otters...

Okay, I admit I am very curious. I kept running across your name whenever doing new page patrol, or working on music-related articles - and I would love to know the backstory behind the otters. I am sure it is fascinating. If it is a really excellent story, I will try to bring one of your articles up to GA as a reward. (No guarantees of success, but it's a worthy challenge.) And where do the clamshells fit in? Risker (talk) 03:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, that was a pretty good story. Wouldn't surprise me in the least to find a few otters hiding under your sofa. But I'm not doing anything involving malls...do you have a favourite musician whose article you think might be getting close to the magic GA level? Preferably someone I might be able to find stuff on in mainstream music journalism? Risker (talk) 03:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I'm very curious too. And otters are my fav animal. Remember me, the person who created the Keyla article? I was gonna do something like your otters, but I decided not too because it would copy too much.-- Barkjon  16:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

THIS is the 100,000-word Pyramid Article!

Thanks for the invite. I'll see what I can do. JTRH (talk) 12:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Eddy Raven

I filled in the missing peaks for Eddy Raven's singles. He didn't chart until 1974, so I can't sort out his singles from 1969-1973 either. Eric444 (talk) 15:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Pyramid game and tournament play

I created a user sub-page at User:TenPoundHammer/Pyramid game and tournament play. Good luck on the article. Malinaccier (talk) 21:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Afd reason

just delete them, I wrote tham all during the summer and someone went through and changed them to redirects. They were junk to begin with. The redirects give the impression that there is an article on the individual when there really is nothing. The redirects are all circular, they return to the same page as the link. I know you keep the Afd pages in line but this time please let it slide. Reason is Reason, if that makes any sense.Granite07 (talk) 21:57, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

moved from your userpage by Malinaccier (talk) 21:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

added reasons you asked for. Sorry I ever made these stubs in the first place, not sure what I was thinking. Thank you for cleaning up deletion tags.Granite07 (talk) 22:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

AFD

I removed them because at the time of my edit, they were just transcluded saying "reason". Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 22:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Sequential Art AfD---New sources

Just going around to all the people who voted to delete for lack of sources/notability, new reviews have been added since the beginning of the AfD which you may not have seen since casting your opinion into the pit. Superslash (talk) 01:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Something to note...

The Thunderbolt nn page was nominated for AfD by Admin Scarian. And a brand new account named "nonscarian"... who has no edits whatsoever voted to keep... and then you voted to keep based on the clearcut sockpuppet vote??? The article was prod'd twice recently and two different brand new accounts rm'd the prod and then vandalised the talk pages of the users who prod'd it. A report to WP:SSP/WP:RCU is about to be compiled. If you feel the article should be kept that's perfectly fine. But your reference to the previous vote may likely look confusing since that vote will probably be struck or deleted following the SSP result. Just hought you'd like to know. 142.167.92.127 (talk) 02:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

thank you

thanks for the advice! Im new to wikipedia and it certainly helped! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Askeens (talk • contribs) 02:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Random Token of Recognition

Get it, a Rubber Mallet for a Ten Pound Hammer? Anyhow, keep up the good work on Misplaced Pages, you've contributed a lot of great edits! (awarded by the "There is No Cabal" cabal) --TBC!?! 17:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

All-American Girl (song) by Carrie Underwood

Hi Ten Pound Hammer!

I would like to know why someone changed the infobox I did on All-American Girl (song) by Carrie Underwood because it has now become her 5th number one hit. I put down the website (www.radioandrecords.com), 3/07/2008 weekly chart highlights, and the infobox that indicates that All-American Girl has reached number 1. I didn't know that there were exclusive rights to her discography, I thought it was meant for all to use to edit and add.

Please look into this at once.

Thank you, BravesFan2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by BravesFan2006 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

re:Carrie Underwood at #1

Howdy. I did this because the actual full chart on both R&R and on Billboard websites still show the 03/08 issue date list. I understand that R&R has its charts online like a day or two before Billboard does, but this blurb does not display the full thing and the current chart, which is splashed all over the website, does not reflect this. It's only Monday, don't you think it is jumping the gun a bit? - eo (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

All American Girl chart position

I am aware that All American Girl may be #1 on country radio, however the song's current peak on the Billboard Hot Country Songs is only #5, and the Hot Country Songs is the chart you have All American Girl listed at #1 on, which is not the case. Please note that official Billboard charts for the week are published every Thursday, and just because something is #1 on radio doesn't always guarantee it will be #1 on the weekly chart, hence why it is necessary to wait until the charts are published on Thursdays before making any assumptions. Misplaced Pages notes only Billboard charts for U.S. chart positions, and airplay charts are not used on this site, see WP:CHARTS. The current Billboard Hot Country Songs peak of All American Girl is #5, as you can see here: , so please do not change this. User:WIKI-GUY-16 19:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware that Hot Country Songs is an airplay only chart, but that doesn't change the fact that the chart is published only by Billboard, and R&R radio charts are NOT the same as Billboard charts. For example a few months back Garth Brooks "More Than A Memory" debuted at #1 on the Billboard Hot Country Songs, despite the fact that it had yet to reach #1 on Mediabase's and R&R's country airplay charts. Thats just one of several examples of how the charts are not the same. I'm not trying to be annoying or mean, but the charts are not the same, and if you continue to use the R&R chart positions in place of the official Billboard ones (which I have sourced, and again are published every Thursday), then I will have to report it as WP:Vandalism. User:WIKI-GUY-16 19:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I was unaware that R&R merged with Billboard, I usually keep up with the charts, but I hadn't known that. You are a veteran editor, so I guess you would know the rules of Misplaced Pages better than me, but I just always thought you were supposed to wait until the official charts were published by Billboard on Thursdays before listing Billboard chart positions. If you say that R&R is the same, then I'll trust you on it. Sorry for the hard time, I was just trying to go by what I though were the rules. User:WIKI-GUY-16 19:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Furry_fandom

My mistake, tech-related error as noted on the AfD page. Please delete the AfD if possible. --Vashir (talk) 23:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks.

Thanks for the help. I was finding very dificult to proceed with the protocol. I fear I don't know the diference between "prod" and "afd". I swear I tried to do my best but the guide for deletion is very confusing and this is the first time (I think) I do this. --Sugaar (talk) 23:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA

I know that you voted oppose on my last RfA, and for good reason. I was wondering, since my new one will be in the extremely soon future, if your opinion has changed at all. I normally look for admins to give me some opinions, but I also want some regular editor's opinions too. If you want, please tell me what you like about my contributions, and what you dislike. I have posted the link to my count on my page. Thanks in advance. Undeath (talk) 03:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

RE: Biting

I was accused of biting because I had nominated a page for deletion. The page was re-created, or the speedy tag was removed by the author, I forgot which, and I replied on the talk page of the page in question(which is now deleted),Delete this page. That was the "biting", which, I do not think of as biting at all. I think that biting is searching out a new user and harrassing him/her about a new page/contribution. I did no such thing.

Now, in regards to the rollback. I have appologized many times for that accident. (proof is on Metro's talk page under the 6th archive. Undeath (talk) 04:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

One last question

I know what you stated about the biting, and I'm actually trying to have that investigated to see what exactly I typed and if it was really biting. But, away from that, edit wise, do you think I'm doing good. (like ifd/afd, image tagging etc...) Undeath (talk) 02:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

band Milqud

Need a more educated opinion than mine. Milqud was previously deleted under speedy. Article is recreated with links and claims to two albums, but look self produced (google didn't show anything major for first album, other is 2008). Links are myspace and their own site "under construction" and relinks to myspace. You seem to have better luck with these than I do. PHARMBOY (TALK) 20:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

A hand in the bush

• The article has been redone so I'm inviting people who voted in this AfD to review it. If they change their votes then I probably will withdraw the nom, but I'd rather have the voters look at it again. JuJube (talk) 23:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Collin Raye

Hey there... I took a look at the page, and yeah, it's probably as you say - your pal Keri's back. The amount of vandalism's pretty slow, though, so I'd suggest just revert/ignore as best as you can. It looks like there's a good number of people keeping an eye on the page - I've got it watchlisted too, so I'll watch for continued problems (I might have caught this last flurry, but I'm on the road). If the IP seems static, it might be blocked for a little while, but you know how IPs are... Tony Fox (arf!) 04:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Hot 100 (U.S.) chart achievements and trivia

Yo. I saw you placed a trivia tag here. If you are interested in helping out, Manyanswer and I are attempting to revamp this mess, cut it down and make it a little less "trivial", if that makes any sense. I personally think an article-name change is in order. Feel free to edit here if you're into it: User:Ericorbit/subpage2. - eo (talk) 13:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

13 March 2008

According to this there is no word on which label Craig Morgan will be signing with. It may be a little premature to speculate that it is Columbia based on the logo that was on the site. Atlantabravz (talk) 14:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Amerikafka

Thanks for fixing the discussion page on the above AfD. I still haven't figured out what I do wrong when starting one up - I follow the Preloaded Debate instructions very carefully. (?). Cheers. Ref (do) 16:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Oops! I think I figured that out last time (months since I AfDed last!). Memory's going a bit - being 50-plus years old is a bitch. Thanks again. Ref (do) 16:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Closing AFD's

I can appreciate that. Although things have changed since I first began closing them. More editors now close afd's and if you needed to know whether or not the editor was an admin or not, the answer is just a click away. :) While you're advice is noted, I'll opt to do things the way I have normally done them, and if there is a future problem then this is an example of the lack of motivation to research, an example you are not privy to. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 00:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Articles...

I think I can learn how to do this. I want to go by the book, but don't want to be hounded by all the things I did wrong. Since I am a perfectionist, you can imagine my frustration with how things are done, written.. etc on Wiki. I don't have a problem with it, I am used to simple editing etc! Anyway, thanks for the offer. If I DO need help I'll give you a hollar.

Elu Carpe Diem! (talk) 02:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)! 02:19, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Merk (conference)

Thanks for this. It had been PRODed and declined so I wasn't sure it was eligible for speedy, but I wholly agree. TRAVELLINGCARI_{Tell me yours} 17:02, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Good to know, thanks! TRAVELLINGCARI_{Tell me yours} 17:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

AFD for Rhode Island Mall

Hi, I thank you for adding those sources. With that, IMO, the mall now passes WP:N and i've changed my vote. I had no clue that Deadmalls.com was considered to be a reliable source. From what i've seen, you always show good faith and are one of the best editors on Misplaced Pages (how you keep getting declined for adminship is beyond me). The Rhode Island Mall is a sparsely frequented mall and initially I couldn't find a thing aside from Deadmalls.com and it didn't seem to be as notable as other dead malls like Dixie Square (on account that the Rhode Island Mall is still open for business). Nonetheless, thank you for finding those sources. Doc StrangeStrange Frequencies 20:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)