User talk:Robert A West - Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Pmanderson (talk | contribs) at 16:37, 18 August 2005 (→RfA). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 16:37, 18 August 2005 by Pmanderson (talk | contribs) (→RfA)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

Welcome to the Misplaced Pages

I pass on the greeting I got when I arrived

"I noticed you were new, and wanted to share some links I thought useful:

"For more information click here. You can sign your name by typing 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~." - which you forgot to do on Talk:Democratic Peace Theory.

(Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 14:22, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi there. Thanks for your excellent contributions on the Barons West. I noticed that at one point you'd created a redirect to a non-existent page, in preparation for creating the page. I think people sometimes frown on creating redirects to blank pages, even if only for a short time (I've been criticised for it myself). One option is to create the final page first, and then the necessary redirect. Another way to achieve the same result, which I find quicker, is to initially create the article on the page which you want as the redirect, and then immediately move it to its final location, using the "move" button at the top (which creates an automatic redirect on the page you've moved it from). OpenToppedBus - Talk 16:29, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Baron West

No worries, glad to help! The succession box system is somewhat complicated, but until (unlikely) improvements in software it's the best we've got. I suggest having a look at Template talk:Succession box. Best, Mackensen (talk) 6 July 2005 19:50 (UTC)

One other note of clarification. When it's a simple one-to-one box (predecessor, title, heir), we use Template:PeerNavbox instead of the succession boxes. We also don't include the years in which the title was held. Mackensen (talk) 6 July 2005 19:57 (UTC)

Ultramarine

You may wish to comment on ] Septentrionalis 23:57, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

...and I was just about to say the same thing. :) Thank you for your support on my Talk page, btw. -- Mihnea Tudoreanu 00:04, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

You're free to move your comments to the main RfC page under the "outside response" so that other editors can come along and endorse your summary, which is what Pmanderson did. Thanks for your input. 172 | Talk 21:41, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

South Carolina, the Treason State

Do you remember if South Carolina was prepared, however briefly, to levy war on the United States in the late 50's? If so, 1832, 1861, 195? would make a nice contextual addition to Christian Exodus. (and most of the SC government "returned to their allegiance" in 1780) Septentrionalis 15:23, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't expect HMG to distinguish. I think the point intended is that only the Thirteen (+I think 3 others: HA, TX, VT) have ever been recognized as independent by anyone, and even these people see that the overlap between that set and {States willing to become a Christian Republic} is small. Clarification may be warranted. I don't think I can do that NPOV. Septentrionalis 16:08, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of which, Ultramarine is trying to game the system. I;ve added to his RfC. Septentrionalis

Raffiniert

I've sat in front of it at dozens of EAS lectures, and some of them have even gotten me gazing through the p-orbitals in the windows; but, after all, "Fine Hall" is now taller and on the other side of Washington. Septentrionalis 16:28, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Sobbi

You wrote:

"You blanked this page while undergoing VfD. That violates policy, so I reverted. Go vote to get rid of this page. Robert A West 21:11, 30 July 2005 (UTC)"

I pasted:

All Wikipedians, however, should try not to appear terse, gruff, and abrupt in their VFD postings. All Wikipedians should do their best to treat contributors with respect and good will.

I made what I thought was an okay thing to do. The syntax on the page said:

"End of VfD message, feel free to edit beyond this point"

...and that is what I did.

Blank this out after you have taken the time to read it over. Show a little patience to the newbies. A message to me would have sufficed Thanks.

Misplaced Pages:Deletion reform

I have posted a long suggestion, under the heading Misplaced Pages:Deletion_reform#Speedy_redirect. (On the above note: I suspect the rule against blanking a VfD page is largely intended to preserve the tag, so the anon's action may have been just within the bounds of propriety. Feel free to blank this comment too. ) Septentrionalis 18:15, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Moving

We discussed how to move an article to an occupied spot. The template to mark a talkpage for moving is {move}; the listing page is WP:RM (RfM is mediation.)

I did also propose a change on Template talk:vfd; I wonder if anybody will comment before I am bold. Septentrionalis 02:43, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Septimius Severus

The Emperor Severus, having seized Rome, first made war against Pescennius Niger, the Governor of Syria, having promised Claudius Albinus, the Governor of Britain to divide the empire with him. He then turned on Albinus and killed him. If these are not the origin of Rowling's names, I will be astonished. (Whether the parallel goes on to the fratricide between Severus's children, I do not know; this would imply that Snape was secretly married, but Janet tells me this is possible.) Septentrionalis 20:36, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Þ

The suggestion has been made to move this article to Thorn (letter), on the grounds that that is the name of the letter. I supported this, and you may find the discussion a nice break in the Wiki-nonsense. (Ah, a change of nonsense; just what I needed!) Septentrionalis 21:40, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (biographies)/Style War proposed solution

A proposal to resolve the style wars by developing style info-boxes. You may want to see, or comment. Septentrionalis 15:22, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting. I am pleasantly surprised that we seem to have a clear consensus developing. Given how bloody previous battles have been, and how the division was so stark if we had an option of different fonts for styles people would have fought over that (people were fighting over absolutely everything in the last discussion on the issue), I am more than a little surprised that getting agreement on the principle has proved so easy. What we all need to work at now in getting agreement on the form of boxes, now that there appears to be agreement that the use of boxes is the way to go. FearÉIREANN

\ 20:44, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

DPT

Thanks. We were in fact editing on WWI simultaneously. Ottoman Turkey is a very complicated case, especially on the questions of how much power the Sultan had by 1914, and how much the Young Turks were answerable to the parliament they had called. The standard objection to DPT is the Western Front, and I thought I should keep the focus there; but now that I think about it, I'll put the above sentence in the article. Septentrionalis 19:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Then by all means take it out. Septentrionalis 20:34, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I am bemused by the opinions on Talk:Spiro Agnew. The anagram "Grow a penis" is obviously trivial, but "radiclib" speaks to his character. Septentrionalis 20:34, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Two versions

Found citation; it's in the RfC: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Ultramarine#Two-versions

I suppose it cannot be presumed that Ultramarine has actually read this passage, however. Septentrionalis 17:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Ming, of course. He does not seem to have responded to it, or to your reply (which was the truce announcement) so it may be unfair to say we showed these arguments. I shall be adding to the RfC shortly, and then reading other policies; he has no reverted Criticisms of communism 3 times in 26 hours. Septentrionalis 18:30, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I've reverted twice; he's also just reverted DPT. Septentrionalis 18:47, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

How to

Go to the page history, and click on the latest edit of the buried version. This will show up, and the URL will end in oldid={eight-digit number). Copy that number and go back to the current version. Edit the whole page, and at the top there will be {twoversions|other eight digit number} Replace (other eight-digit number) with the one you copied, and save.

Please also look at the draft in the top of User:Pmanderson/Preston_Brooks and edit, and decide if you would like to sign. Septentrionalis 21:34, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

IMHO he is a True Believer in Hoffer's sense; he believes, in good faith, any argument which serves the cause of Truth. (I have duly voted; making 3 to an abstention.) Septentrionalis 21:52, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Now that I think about it: an anarcho-capitalist who thinks that this is how true individualists settle their differences. "I don't got to go along with nothing I ain't agreed to."

Is his ignorance of German economic history and the existence of Marxian socialists real? I suppose it must be. Septentrionalis 18:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Poll

You started the "Is there consensus?" poll; you should have the honor of deciding when it is conclusive and acting accordingly. I would be happy with somewhat less than the 24 hours I suggested. Septentrionalis 18:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Deletion Reform

Made my idea into a proposal; let me know what you think: Misplaced Pages:Deletion reform/Proposals/Speedy redirect Septentrionalis 18:57, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Accidental, this system is being very balky. Septentrionalis 15:12, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, I still have to look up Acts, move a parenthesis, check that all the references are to the right things, tell Ultramarine, and file. But I think it's done.Please have a look. Septentrionalis 16:37, 18 August 2005 (UTC)