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As suggested at talk:wizards as a race I merged that page into this one. However, it's not clear to me that the additional information is encyclopedic ... or even accurate. The Istari are better described as incarnate angels than as a race, and I have no knowledge of the other examples given. Thoughts? Zack 03:31, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

What is paranormal magic? How does it differ from magic? Harry Potter is an example of a wizard in training to use MAGIC.

I suspect that paranormal magic is magic in the mystical sense, whereas regular magic is what's practiced by Penn and Teller. Snowspinner 17:20, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Should this maybe be a disambig page leading to the various types of wizards? Snowspinner 17:20, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

How many types of wizards exist inside and outside our imagination? They all do magic limited by psi? A wizard's hat can make a broom come alive. How is this related to the limits of psi? A wizard could change young Arthur into animals? Psi???

Wizards as administrators in MUDS and MUSHES, Wizard as in the Who musical, Wizard as in the bands, Wizard as in a utility in a program to fast-create something... Snowspinner 17:55, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I think sorcercerers have an evil connotation while wizards, good.--Jondel 08:56, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've just removed the following from the main page since it isn't actually true (the five magics in the book are in fact separate disciplines, not a hierachy):

"Lyndon Hardy's Master of the Five Magics suggests ascending ranks of thaumaturgist, alchemist, magician, sorcerer, and wizard."

Kvetch 15:45, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars image

What's the image of the Star Wars guy doing here? He's not a wizard or sorceror; he's a Sith! He doesn't even use magic; he uses the Force. → JarlaxleArtemis 00:28, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Even if he is a sorcerer, it's borderline. I've removed it.--JiFish 14:15, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Oh, is that so? Even if YOU - but one person- agree, doesn't mean YOU should remove it...Isn't "the force" some kind of magic, per se? Which makes "a Star Wars"-guy proficent in it, some kind of wizard - in a sense. Who says they have to be medieval? --OleMurder 16:33, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Certainly I a agree that he could be considered a Wizard. However, it never states it specifically in the movies. I don't believe we need to confuse the subject with borderline cases. This is an encyclopedia, not a trivia book. Also, I don't think they have to medieval. Use a clear case of a Wizard in a modern or futuristic setting instead.

Finally, the original objection was online for over ten days. People had more than enough time to justify why it should stay. Nobody responded. ----JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 11:45, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Dumbledore reference?

While it really boils down to a matter of opinion, I would like to advise the editor/maintainer of this wiki that the front page image citing "Albus Dumbledore, from the Harry Potter series," as one of the "most well known traditional literary wizards" is a little absurd. While the statement may be true for Harry Potter fans, it doesn't grant Albus Dumbledore a status that is traditional or literary, simply because he has barely been around long enough. If Dumbledore is meant as an example, I would suggest a more "traditional" or "literary" wizard to be on the front page, such as Merlin or Gandalf (thankfully, he is indeed displayed below), or urge the rewording of the citing sentence.

Agreed. I've exchanged the Gandalf and Dumbledore images - Gandalf's literary precedence is well established, imo - and moved both Dumbledore and Tim the Enchanter down to the list of fictional wizards. Zack 22:52, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Cool, thanks, nothing against Dumble (since the poor dude is about to be punked anyway) but Gandalf definitely trumps him. 4:41 AM, July 17 2005 EST