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NPOV
Greetings. I agree that there was a problem before, but the current Kalaripayattu article is pretty neutral, so I took the tag off and placed a "controversial" tag on the article's talk page.
Just generally, I'm pretty sure that there was a pan-Eurasian culture set in the Neolithic and early bronze age, but we can only infer it, there is no way to really prove it. As well, there, IMO, isn't any way to prove that KP is the origin of Chinese martial arts. Confucius in the Analects mentions martial training. Qin Shi Huangdi's Terra Cotta Army even had a few statues in kung fu poses, which date from the 3rd century BC, probably 2-300 years before the introduction of Buddhism, and 600 years before Ta Mo. There we have it. Fire Star 04:42, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
sign your comments
Dear Kenneth,
As you are never LOGIN to do EDITS please use following to sign your comments
{{user|kennethtennyson}}
It will output something like.
kennethtennyson (talk · contribs)
WP:VIP
Hello,
Just for future reference, please sign your comments by using ~~~~. Otherwise, it takes away from our ability to process your report. Thanks. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk June 29, 2005 00:55 (UTC)
It appears that there is an edit war between you and this user. I suggest using WP:AN for this. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk June 29, 2005 01:02 (UTC)
interesting controversy
Agree with your assessment; however, I don't know if it is worth all of this controversy. I've never heard of kalaripayattu and it seems like more of a Dance than anything else. Steelhead 29 June 2005 20:38 (UTC)
Buddhists
Kenneth, why don't you become the founding member of Category:Buddhist Wikipedians? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:53, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
shuai jiao
chinese wrestling Shuai chiao - has connections to history sites
Bodhidharma
I'm a lapsed Buddhist AND a history buff : )
- I don't suppose you know of the source for giving Bodhidharma's birthdate as 440?
- The later sources that identify Bodhidharma as South Indian all take their lead from Tan Lin, whose probably composed his account at roughly the same time that Yang Xuanzhi was composing his. As a first or second generation lineage descendant of Bodhidharma, Tan Lin probably knew Bodhidharma better than Yang, who met him in passing only twice. I could be more conclusive if we knew more about Tan Lin.
- And with regard to Persian Buddhists, didn't the Sassanid Empire crack down harshly on Persians who converted from Zoroastrianism to other religions? Or was that just Christianity?
- So check this out. Dao Xuan's account of Bodhidharma's death is under the entry for Hui Ke, not Bodhidharma. According to Dao Xuan, Bodhidharma need only die before 534, the end of the Northern Wei, when Hui Ke moves from Luoyang to Ye.
- The 528 date is only necessary if you insist on dating Bodhidharma's death to the mass execution at Heyin.
- Of course, according to the chronology provided by the Zutangji, Bodhidharma must have died sometime after 536.
- I'll tie the discrepant dates to the various sources.
- I tried to address the conflicts by presenting the information by source rather than redacting them all into a single narrative. The 527 arrival date in China comes from the Zutangji and the Jingde chuandenglu, which is largely taken from the Zutangji, i.e. the last two texts, which means that the primary source for the 528 death date is either Tan Lin or the Xu gaoseng zhuan. I'll put up a bleg for a source on Talk:Bodhidharma.
- According to the Broughton (p. 55), Dao Xuan takes the age of Bodhidharma (150) from Yang Xuanzhi, so I'm going to remove the clause that says there's a discrepancy between the two.
- Thanks for the correction.
- Just a couple of things:
- # Which text dates Bodhidharma's death to 528?
- # If Dao Xuan takes his figure for Bodhidharma's age from Yang Xuanzhi, shouldn't they give identical ages at death?
- I won't do any edits on this stuff until we clear this up.
- Thanks.
Turkic Peoples
Hi, Please check the article revision history again, carefully... Those weren't my additions...! In fact, all I did so far today was throw a couple of his more far fetched sentences out, like the one claiming the Elamites were Turkish!... The whole thing (that someone else added) will need to be checked in more detail, and much of it will probably have to be reincorporated or discarded... Regards, Codex Sinaiticus 07:06, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
Kalarippayattu
Some troll on the Kalarippayattu page is saying we're the same guy.
JFD 01:53, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Turkic Peoples Again
Love your work on the page! Thanks for your trouble. Lao Wai 18:49, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Well I am not sure quite how to take that message, but I think I am going to think positive and say, sure, no worries, a pleasure. It got really screwed up didn't it? Lao Wai 18:26, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
Tatars Images
Hi! I'd added some images that contain Tatar residents in national clothes. But who is a singer? I'm a native Tatarstan resident, but I'd never seen her! --Untifler 17:36, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
- It is important, is she a Tatar really? Sometimes western residents use word Tatar to sign another peoples, such as Siberian peoples. As for Tatar professional singing, it is popular only in Tatarstan, the only place where Tatar singers use to record their CDs--Untifler 21:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi! Some information about Crimean Tatars isn't placed in this article. By common points of view, nomade Crimean Scythians and Sarmat people also was ancestors of Crimean Tatars (the admixture of Indoeuropeans could be see in their facial structure) --Untifler 21:22, 30 August 2005 (UTC)