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Anybody noticed that the second versions are not available on Liveleak anymore? They are still listed on Wilders' profile, but if you click one of them, a message states: "This media item has been removed by the uploader". - Face22:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Eh... I was actually referring to those new videos. They are not on Liveleak anymore, and they have vanished from Wilders' profile now as well. I'm sure they were still there a few days ago. It's logical to assume that those legal actions are related. But I did a google search, and found nothing about this, and pvv.nl or geertwilders.nl do not mention it neither. Cheers, Face18:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Ah, right. I only found the text on FOK yesterday. I think we should mention the removal of the videos from Liveleak in the article, and provide a mirror to the videos. StaticGull Talk 11:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
So long as we provide a citation from a source that notes the removal/move to another location. It isn't our habit to engage in recentism. Let's wait for things to settle down a little bit. There is no hurry to be first with the news. If anything, such is contrary to our role as encyclopedia. - Arcayne()16:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I think Arcayne is right, but I also agree with Gull that we should have a working link. It's difficult though to find a copy of the second version which is complete (not cut in half or something) and of good quality. Perhaps the second edition should be uploaded to Wikileaks as well? Anyway, I've added this copy of the English version to the article. I haven't found a qualitative Dutch mirror yet. I am also uncertain about adding the original edition. Cheers, Face20:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
There's a Dutch mirror of the original version to be found here, although it seems as though all the links to original versions have been deleted. StaticGull Talk 15:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Gull, but as for the first versions, I like the Wikileaks page best. In fact, I think the first versions are relevant enough to be included, so I added a link to Wikileaks in the EL section. Cheers, Face21:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
