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Right reasons

Yes, I think that Rockpocket blocked <He is talking about me Giano (talk) 18:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)> for the right reasons. At the time, he believed that

  • the comments he removed represented harrassment of another editor;
  • he was acting within policy to remove those comments and warn against their replacement;
  • he didn't think that the harrassment would cease without a block;
  • a block in that situation was appropriate and well within accepted practice; and
  • he was acting in the best interests of the project.

Was he correct in all of those beliefs? Nope. The result? Bad block, good reasons.

I assume the irony of yelling at me to "shut my ill-informed mouth" and in the same breath warning me against creating further drama isn't lost on you. If you have something further to say to me, feel free to visit my talk page. There's no need for additional bickering in Rockpocket's userspace. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:46, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you know? I really could not care less WTF you think. You are ill-informed and rather ignorant. It's a pity, but there is not a lot I can do about that. If you are hoping I am going to enter into debate with you, and thus create more drama you are mistaken. Now run along and find something productive to do outside in the nice fresh air. Giano (talk) 18:37, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Civility block

is blatantly uncivil William M. Connolley (talk) 19:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh great! I hereby predict that the ensuing drahmaz outlive the block duration. *sigh* - Alison 19:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I strongly object to civility blocks being issues for trivial reasons. They are the root cause of much of the drama and bad feeling and disruption to this project and it really is time to get a grip on the notion of 1,500 Admins out there all making up their own mind on what constitutes civility. Sarah777 (talk) 19:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Is it civility blocks that are the problem, or just maybe the incivility itself? Hmm, tough question. Avruch 19:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Within reason, I think the blocks generate more passion and incivility than they stop - civility is such a subjective notion and we don't even attempt to define it yet it is one of the commonest tools/weapons used/abused by Admins. Drives us non-Admins (even polite folk like me), into frenzied anger. Sarah777 (talk) 19:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Sarah, I don't believe we've met before: but make sure that you think about what you type before you press "save page". Thinking about the impact and potential consequences of when you materialise your thoughts is intelligent. You clearly are, and we don't need any more discussion here. I hope you understand. Rudget (logs) 19:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I don't see how anyone could argue that writing I really could not care less WTF you think. You are ill-informed and rather ignorant is anything but uncivil. I ask Giano to please explain the remarks or retract them. If there's no explanation then the remarks appear to violate Giano's probation. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:AE

See: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement#IRC. Avruch 19:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)