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Re:Jewish Socialist Party

Same time and place. According to Henryk Grossman article, he joined the unlinked "Jewish Social Democratic Party of Galicia in 1905". Note that Polish Wiki gives the full name of Poale Zion as Żydowska Socjaldemokratyczna Partia Robotnicza "Poalej Syjon": Jewish Scialdemocratic Workers Party "PS". If it is not the same party, it is some small splinter - there seem to have been a few that split and merged all the time. I wish we had more info; I will see if I can stub Adolf Mosler as my small contribution to that story. I do think, however, that it was Anzelm Mosler, not Adolf (try googling for those two names...). At least Anzelm has a Polish Biographical Dictionary entry (Łopuszański, Bolesław (1977) 'Mosler Anzelm', in Polska Akademia Nauk Instytut Historii (ed.) Polski Sownik Biograficzny volume 22, Wrocław, Zakład Narodowy imienia Ossolińskich, pp. 55-56.). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Am reading Rick Kuhn's biog of Grossman. They are completely different parties - perhaps Polish wiki is wrong? JSPD/ZSDP was break from social democratic movement, and highly critical of PZ. Am trying to edit relevant pages with material from Kuhn's book. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

As I noted, I am not that familiar with that part of the history. If you have found refs that it was a different party, great.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 14:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

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Living people

Can you please remember to put living people in the Living people category, especially if you're including negative statements about the person in their biography? Thanks, Andjam (talk) 11:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

European Parliament groups

We are trying to find consensus on the "leftist issue". Do you prefer "Communists and Far-left Socialists" or "Communists and Far-left"? You can state your preference in talk page. --Checco (talk) 14:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

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Image

Hello Soman! How are you? I have a question: How can I download images from other Misplaced Pages? I haven't download a single image. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. And, you have created more than 2000 articles. Great job! Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 15:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, Soman, you create articles so fast! Yesterday it was 2500, now it is 2505! I also want to create over 1000 articles. Right now, I have created 137 articles. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:ICMLPO (U&S)

I created Template:ICMLPO (U&S). Any improvements are welcome. I think the titles of the organisations are long and awful. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Quality Vs. Quantity

Hello Soman. I know about Quality Vs. Quantity debate. However, without over 2 million articles, Misplaced Pages will not be that popular. I would like to create 1000 articles someday. I have seen your articles, and many of them are about left-wing parties. Many articles you created are from the Third World countries. Let me tell you something about me: I am not from the west. I really appreciate your contributions. Someday I would like to talk with you in private. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Naye Prese

On 27 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Naye Prese, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 19:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

News

Collaboration of the Month nominations are currently open for WikiProject Political Parties's Collaboration of the month. So far there is one nomination. You can nominate and vote at June's Collaboration page (link). --Megapen (talk) 15:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom of Martinican Communist Party

Hi Soman - there is an issue with this nomination which you may want to address. The hook is not properly cited and most of the references are in French and Russian. Vishnava _talk 15:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I can understand that, but the policy is quite clear on non-English sources and we can't expect readers not to get confused. Maybe another admin/reviewer should take a look, but its clear-cut to me that there is a major problem. Vishnava _talk 18:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I suggest that some of these sources in Google Books and Google Scholar be scouted for alternative citations. Vishnava _talk 23:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Martinican Communist Party

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--BorgQueen (talk) 13:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Nepal

Still no news on the nominated seats, who will become PM and president, and who will be in government? —Nightstallion 13:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of "Proletarian Union" Committee of the Portuguese Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization (in reorganization)

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Political groups in COR and PACE

I know that you are an expert about political groups in supranational institutions. I would like you to see my posts at Talk:Committee of the Regions#European Alliance and Talk:European Democrats#European Democratic Group respectively. --Checco (talk) 14:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The Hindu

Hi there, can you include this article in your watchlist. Undue weight is being inserted here by one editor, by using one Freinds of Tibet and Hoot. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I have started a discussion about this in talk. Please participate. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Queen of Bollywood

Hi. I have revamped the article, and I think it's now a credible stub. Please take another look at the article, and see if your opinion has changed. Best,--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 21:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China

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Semaun

Hi there, Can you give a source for the Semaun addition? Thanks, Smilo Don (talk) 07:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you're right. http://www.jstor.org/pss/162895 # Ruth McVey

1. Reviewed work(s): Muslim National Communism in the Soviet Union: A Revolutionary Strategy for the Colonial World by Alexandre A. Bennigsen; S. Enders Wimbush
2. International Journal of Middle East Studies, Vol. 12, No. 2 (Sep., 1980), pp. 219-220 I can't open this article (here in INdonesia) but a Google search offers a tantalizing glimpse. Smilo Don (talk) 08:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Hkelkar?

Hi Soman. Have you reported the suspected sock? I've had run-ins with HKelkar himself and his socks and if this is another occurrence would like to see it knocked on the head asap. Cheers. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Answer to the question you asked me about democratic socialism and social democracy

Hi, the reason i have been adding Democratic socialism and social democracy in many articles is because ideologically i believe that most parties that define themselves to be democratic Socialist are social democratic as well and vice versa because most socialist parties will try to remove the injustices of capitalism and reform it but not remove it and support a mixed economy, that is social democracy, but also most also support a welfare state and an evolutionary, electoral, democratic path towards Socialism and/or a fairer society which is democratic socialism, in contrast to a revolutionary path. most Centre-left parties wether they define themselves as social democrats or democratic socialists believe in these basic things and also if you look at the two ideologies in depth they are very closely intertwined with each other and it is my belief that both ideologies are so closely related that they should be used synonymously with each other. as for the parties i have added these two ideologies to i have read their policies over and over and have deemed them to adhere to these two idologies and as you know it is difficult to provide a reference that states explicitly that they adhere to these two ideologies so i have had to go by what their policies are and have added social democracy and democratic socialism based on my judgement of their policies.

Gr8opinionater (talk) Tuesday 1st July 2008 at 11:23AM (GMT)

Gottfried Lessing

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--BorgQueen (talk) 07:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

A "new" article for Malik Obama----

is sure to be nominated for deletion; so I've actually done so myself here even though I believe it now passes muster due to Maliks multiple press mentions (which had not yet been catalogued when contributors had so very recently weighed in on its "Obongo" iteration. Please be patient with this proposal while those interested weight in again. (I'm notifying those who commented.) — Justmeherenow (   ) 06:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Bolshevik Party (North Kurdistan-Turkey) - Terrorist Status

It occurs to me that user talk is a better tool than edit summaries for exchaning opinions. At least for the sake of the details. I note that the Bolshevik Party (North Kurdistan-Turkey) is not a terrorist organization because its historical roots has also given birth to terrorist organisations. Maybe jugding TİİKP (Revolutionary Workers and Peasants Party of Turkey) as terrorist is state POV (and checking my List of illegal political parties in Turkey would demonsrate my sensitivity to avoid that, but not only for Republic of Turkey), however at least one of its splinters, TKP/ML-TİKKO, is a terrorist organization. And Doğu Perinçek admits that (http://www.beepworld.de/members10/c-a-t-i-/ekler2.htm). Furthermore the name suggests to me and probably anyone not associated with communist circles in Turkey that the organisation might be terrorist; because we would expect the denomination North Kurdistan to be used by Kurdish separatists such as PKK. That's why the terrorist status section is relevant to the article. I'll put it there back with some additional explanation. If you still want to revert that go on and do it. You've worked a lot on these issues and therefore your final edit should be respected. Evren Güldoğan (talk) 23:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I just noticed that TKP/ML is where Bolshevik Party (North Kurdistan-Turkey) has split from and TİKKO is its armed front (And it's clearly a terrorist organisation.); so the terrorist status section is necessary to clarify that BP (NK-T) is not a terrorist one, at least according to the Turkish state POV. Evren Güldoğan (talk) 23:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK

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--Gatoclass (talk) 02:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Dalit Image

That image was transfered from another Misplaced Pages article...maybe Untouchables or India...don't quite remember which one. It was the "best" I could find with a limited search. Can you suggest where one might look for a replacement image.--Buster7 (talk) 11:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Nara Bahadur Karmacharya

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Proletarian Revolutionary Organisation, Nepal

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Adibhatla Kailasam

Hello,

  I would like to know more about Adibhatla Kailasam. I see you created the page on Adibhatla Kailasam - please let me know whether I can contact you

thanks

/\ \/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Varun.adibhatla (talk • contribs) 12:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: ASMAA ABDOL-HAMID

The talk of metroexpress isnt gossip and is backed up by other news sources. The case regards a conviction in Denmark, and would - if merely gossip - be tried for injuries. So it is not fair to removed it because of your interpretation of "Gossip". People reading wikipedia is intelligent enough to draw their own conclusion when looking into a matter. Hvemerdetdersladrer (talk) 15:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

All in day's work

Hello Soman. We probably talked after a long gap... I thank you for your message . Regards. --Bhadani (talk) 17:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Use of the word "terrorism"

Hello fellow Wikipedian! I agree that the word terrorism is a pejorative one. That's why I try to use the term "illegal political pary" instead of terrorist organisation as in the article I started titled List of illegal political parties in Turkey. I hope that's a neutral denomination (However let me add that I personally think that organisations such as PKK, TKP/ML and Turkish Hezbollah are terrorist and should be dealt away with force. That understanding of mine might surface in the discussion pages; but if it happens in the articles, by mistake, it should of course be removed.).

Now, WP:TERRORIST states that "In line with the Misplaced Pages Neutral Point of View policy, the words "Extremist", "Terrorist" and "Freedom fighter" should be avoided unless there is a verifiable citation indicating who is calling a person or group by one of those names in the standard Misplaced Pages format of "X says Y"." I have added sections titled Terrorist Status to various articles stating, for example, that "The organisation is listed among the 12 active terrorist organisation in Turkey according to Counter-Terrorism and Operations Department of Directorate General for Security...". I believe that "X says Y" format. However in order to be even more sensitive about the use of the term "terrorist" I propose changing the section names to Designation as a Terrorist Organisation as in the article List of designated terrorist organizations. What's your opinion? Evren Güldoğan (talk) 21:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

No, thank you for your constructive criticism. I believe it helps improving the articles. I'll change the titles anyway. And in the human resources sections I'll replace "terrorist files" with "files about people convicted of being a terrorist under Turkish laws" and "terrorists" with "militants", as you have suggested. Indeed I have already done that in PKK and Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front articles. I'll finish the work tomorrow, after getting some sleep.

And, yes, the mentioned study gives statistics en bloc. However I think the reason is probably that there are no statistically significant differences between the left-wing organisations covered by the study. The human resources bases for MLKP should be similar with TKP/ML, MKP and DHKP/C since they all have the same historical roots. So I thought the available statistics is better than none. However it you still find it inappropriate please go on and remove that section. I have checked out the history of the article and clearly can see that it's your work which expanded it from a single line to a meaningful contribution. Best regards. Evren Güldoğan (talk) 22:21, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

National Congress Party of Afghanistan

The reason for this revert was because User:WikiPersianHistorian was a sockpuppet of a banned user. It is okay with me if you feel reverting my revert should stand. I just wanted you to know the reasoning behind my revert. Kingturtle (talk) 15:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: JSDS

Good article. I hope I'll be able to expand it when I get some time in the next month. I'm not really sure if the party participated in the 1923 elections, i have to check it out. After 1920, there was quite some confusion in the Socialist camp. Most of the Slovenian social democrats joined the Yugoslav Socialist Party, but later a fraction re-founded the JSDS, which was not particularly successful. Anyway, i'll check it out. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 00:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Harsha

I deleted the article on Harsha Chhina because - as I said - it was incoherent. I couldn't tell if it was an article about a town, about an individual from the town, about an ethnic group from the town, about events that happened in the town...

I'm willing to accept that a perfectly valid article can be written about Harsha Chhina (whoever or whatever that is). But what I deleted was not a valid article. DS (talk) 05:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)