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I prefer to reply to comments on the page they were left, so if I left a comment on your page, reply there it is on my watch list. If you leave a comment here, watch this page until the discussion is done as I will only leave replies here. Comments which I find to be uncivil, full of vulgarities, an attempt flame baiting, or that are are excessively rude may be deleted without response. Comments from harassing editors or wikistalkers will also be summarily removed without response. If I choose not to answer, that's my right, don't keep putting it back. I'll just delete and get annoyed at you.

Are you here about an edit I made? You may want to check my user page first to get some general info on some common questions about edits I make. Here are some quick links as well:

Dragon Ball redirects

Is making an edit like this a good idea? I also don't understand why the latter was tagged with {{R from merge}}. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm...making the redirect more specifically is normally okay, though in this case I think it would be detrimental to the person looking for the information. The second one should not have a merge tag at all, just a redirect from alternate name. -- ] (] · ]) 03:09, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I was going to get to nailing the redirects with the appropriate tags (like I did here) but changed my mind. There are way too many! Can you program your TWINKLE to do this? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Alas no. It would be nice if Twinkle (or Friendly) could add redirect templates (and save me some searching and typing :P) Would maybe get more folks to use them as well. -- ] (] · ]) 03:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Now someone else piped one . You are watching these redirects correct? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I have them all on my watch list. -- ] (] · ]) 16:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Should I undo the change or do you want to? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm...maybe start a discussion on it somewhere, see what JHunter's reasons are. -- ] (] · ]) 17:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Guess I'll leave it in your hands. That ok? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Actually, can you drop him a note to ask? I've got rather a full lot of late. -- ] (] · ]) 17:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Never mind it. I'll just revert. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Abtract is at it again. Is he still after you too? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Yep, I've left Seph a note about it. -- ] (] · ]) 00:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I've also now reported, again, to AN/I -- ] (] · ]) 14:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Wow, he's practically banned. I can hear the fanfare ;) What about that attack page he set up? Can it be deleted? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I think it can at this point. After this long, he obviously wasn't doing anything with it. -- ] (] · ]) 15:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Would you suggest {{db-attack}}, {{db-banned}} or an afd? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 15:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
{{db-attack}}, but I've asked in the AN/I to see if someone will just go ahead and delete it. -- ] (] · ]) 15:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

I don't know how I could ever thank you. : ) You have tought me so much, and thanks for the barnstar! ; ) I wish there was more I could say. – J U M P G U R U @ 21:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Quite welcome, and you've earned it :) -- ] (] · ]) 21:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
That's great! Together I believe we can make some great pages. ; ) – J U M P G U R U @ 22:03, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

On one of your userboxes it says that you are a webmaster. What website do you work for? Is it Misplaced Pages, or is that just a pastime? – J U M P G U R U @ 04:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is a hobby. I'm a web application developer for one of the largest state agencies in Texas . I also have a few personal websites and used to do freelance stuff through my own business. :) -- ] (] · ]) 04:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Awesome, what's your business? I make horror manga, I'm still waiting to get discovered by a company. My main manga series is Fatal Moon. – J U M P G U R U @ 05:25, 16 July 2008 (UTC) P.S. Glad Misplaced Pages is a hobby, I was worried that I was interfearing in your job... : (
It was a freelance web development and hosting business. I pretty much shut it down a little over a year ago. Got tired of dealing with the business side and non-paying clients and all. :) And no worries, Misplaced Pages is a hobby, though sometimes I start to wonder if it isn't a second job as much time as I spend here LOL. Still, its fun and it lets me enjoy some of my favorite loves: reading, researching, and writing, without the same stress and pressure as my fiction writing does. I've wanted to do my own manga, but alas, I am not an artist when it comes to drawing people (I make decent landscapes and abstracts though). I do like to write fiction though, and join in the insanity that is NaNoWriMo each year :D -- ] (] · ]) 06:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
What was your manga idea? My manga is about the aftermath of the apocalypse, everyone that has not been raptured gets sent to a moon controlled by demonic superhumans sent to them by the anti-christ, and everyone has to prove themselves worthy and kill the anti-christ. – J U M P G U R U @ 23:52, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Something of a shojo piece, with a high school senior coming home from school to find an injuried demon lying in her backyard. He left the demon world because his little brother, whom he loves, has turned against him and tried to kill him. She tends his wounds and lets him stay with her (she lives alone). She has a bad heart, due to a tragic event in her past, and has been told by doctor's won't live till graduation. They all in love while he hides in the human world in hope his brother will come to his senses and her death comes closer with each passing day. -- ] (] · ]) 00:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Interesting story. – J U M P G U R U @ 01:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah...have plot twists figured for it, and other chars (of course). May eventually write a manga-inspired novel for it (new term!) :P -- ] (] · ]) 01:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
It would be a sucky story without other characters and contrast, so that's essential. It could be a light novel, and you could hire a shojo artist. Just made a new series actually, about a exorcist who has a rare disease called Blak, that comes from being exposed to many evil entities to the point where your eyes a pitch black and you are blind to everything exept ghosts, spirits, etc. Since demons are attracked to human fear (Blak also causes you to be totally valiant against demons), he brings a woman named Lisa, who is a professional spirit channeler. The series is highly infuenced by A Haunting. – J U M P G U R U @ 01:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
What's some of the novels you wrote? – J U M P G U R U @ 02:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Sounds like an interesting story (with a touch of Pitch Black influence? :D So far I haven't finished any of them. Two I've worked on most in the last few years are The Guardian, a fantasy/dramatic romance piece that is intended to span at least two books. It follows a princess, her prince, and their two guardians, for about 10 years of their lives as relatively blissful happiness is torn apart by betrayal and evil. Plenty of the good vs evil themes, with unicorns, dragons, talking animals, dinosaurs. :P The second, Enslaved Heart is a...hmmm...sort of a Christian Romance, but more than that. Its set in a future world in which the wealthy have decided to aid the "poor" by instituting a new form of slavery, in which those who don't make enough are fair game to be enslaved for manual labor. The rest I've started over the years are various romantic suspense works, though not the silly Harlequin things, but the fuller, longer, I refuse to use silly language novels :D -- ] (] · ]) 02:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
You're a really good author : ), what's your favorite manga or novel? Mine are Blue Heaven by Tsutomu Takahashi (and all the rest of his manga), Yu-Gi-Oh! (only the first series), D.Gray-man, Embalming -The Another Tale of Frankenstein-, Tista, Edomae Sushi Kirara no Shigoto (from Super Jump), Jin -Hitoshi- (from Super Jump), Cloth Road, Barefoot Gen, Roman (manga adaption of Sound Horizon rock opera), Gantz, Naruto, Bleach, Happy World! (from Ultra Jump), and Kōkoku no Shugosha. :D – J U M P G U R U @ 03:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Doh, that's a much harder one to answer. I have over 500 manga volumes in my collection alone (and over 800 books total). If I were to try to limit it though, for manga I'd have to go with Marmalade Boy, Sailor Moon, Mars, Cardcaptor Sakura, From Far Away, and Rurouni Kenshin, which are all ones I've read over and over (Mars I literally re-read every month). For novels, it more depends on my mood, but for the ones I've read an insane number of times: Black Beauty, Little Women, Jurassic Park, and Lad: A Dog (and the rest of Albert Payson Terhune's dog novels), Watership Down, and Shades of Twilight. I have a hard time choosing a favorite anything :P -- ] (] · ]) 03:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I have over 600 manga in my collection, plus the magazines over 700. :P Anyway, I'm going on vacation, it's gonna be three days, so the coversation is not over! Plese keep that in mind. : ) Bye. – J U M P G U R U @ 16:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Have a good vacation :) -- ] (] · ]) 16:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Little questions

  • Does the plot in a manga series need ref?
  • Do you mind if I request a copyedit for Himura Kenshin?

See you--Tintor2 (talk) 00:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

So long as it is pure plot summary, it doesn't need a ref in the main article's plot section nor in chapter summaries in the chapter list. When making specific statements about a character or event in other parts of the main article, in the list of characters, etc, then a reference is needed. Interpretive statements also need referencing. And not at all, it needs a copyedit before it can be GA. :) -- ] (] · ]) 02:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I meant the character not the series about the copy-edit request.Tintor2 (talk) 15:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I know :) -- ] (] · ]) 15:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I forgot, good luck with Tokyo Mew Mew ^_^.Tintor2 (talk) 19:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) Not feeling too hopeful though. So far several comments, but none actually changing to support (or even oppose) after the comments have been addressed. :( -- ] (] · ]) 20:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey Collectonian, could you give a little advice to fix the lead of Fullmetal Alchemist? I'm out of ideas.Tintor2 (talk) 19:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me, removing the tag. :)-- ] (] · ]) 20:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Full Moon o Sagashite header

On the Full Moon o Sagashite page the word Shinigami is in italic text throughout the page. I understand that it is correct to do that, but is it correct for the a header to be in italic text too? I see that you changed it so it wasn't in italic text and Atichoker changed it so it was in italic text. I removed the italic text because it looks a bit strange, please correct me if I'm wrong. ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 23:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it is. In general, headers shouldn't be in italics but Atichoker seems determined to claim it is and I don't feel like dealing with them and an edit war so I will leave it alone until I can get confirmation one way or the other. -- ] (] · ]) 01:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I see. Is there anywhere on Misplaced Pages that talks about that? ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 18:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I started a conversation at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#Foreign Terms and Headings, but they said it was fine. Still looks silly to me. -- ] (] · ]) 18:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay well I aggree it looks kind of silly but if it is fine then I guess I'll leave it alone. ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 00:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Notability issues

Greetings Collectonian, You have just redirected an article - The Party Album (Alexis Korner) - that has only been up for a few minutes and had an underconstruction template. Surely it deserves at least a speedy deletion template which can be contested as per

Important note: Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion. However, an article that fails to assert that the subject of the article is important or significant can be speedily deleted under criterion A7. A mere claim of significance, even if contested, may avoid speedy deletion under A7, requiring a full proposed deletion or Article for Deletion process to determine if the article should be included in Misplaced Pages.

As you know, it takes time to create articles and to see it wiped off like that is unpleasant, to say the least. By Misplaced Pages guidelines, any recording by Alexis Korner is notable, and any live recording with the line-up of that particular recording, particularly so. Feedback, please. --Technopat (talk) 16:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Music albums are not deletable via CSD (as you yourself just noted). The other option was AfD, which would have ended with the same result, redirect over deletion. Per WP:MUSIC guidelines, unnotable albums are redirected back to the artist or the artist's discography. There is not a single guideline that claims that any recording by Korner has some inherited notability, nor are all live albums instantly notable. All albums are evaluated independently per the music notability guidelines. And yes, it takes time to create articles, however if the creator can't establish notability from the get go, they should create it in their user sandbox and work on it there until they are sure its notability is clear. -- ] (] · ]) 16:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for prompt reply. Obviously I did not mean that Misplaced Pages specifically mentions Korner as being notable, which is what you seem to imply that I had stated. If there was any syntactical problem there, the guideline I was referring to was
In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Misplaced Pages.
But thank you for the sandbox suggestion - I did think that it was more for experimenting and that the underconstruction template was valid for a wikipedia article. --Technopat (talk) 16:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The key there is may have, not necessarily does have. Its notability still has to be supported by significant coverage in reliable, third party sources. You can use your userspace to work on new articles over a reasonable period of time by making user subpages (see WP:UP#SUB). Just add {{userwip|NAMEOFFUTUREARTICLE}} to the top to indicate that is what it is. I've done it myself a few times, such as for Meerkat Manor: The Story Begins, which I wasn't sure would meet notability requirements at first, so I worked on my user space or about a month or so before feeling it was good to go. :) -- ] (] · ]) 17:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

MERGERS

Hey. I just recently proposed a merge of Son Goten, Trunks, his future counterpart, and Pan. I also proposed a merge of several Yu-Gi-Oh characters. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch! :3 ZeroGiga (talk) 18:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Post Oak Mall work

Brilliant! Everything is updated and awesome again! A few questions remain however:

1) Sears relocated from Manor East Mall? How? There wasn't even a space for Sears in Manor East Mall, unless that's where the Wal-Mart was. I've always heard Sears relocated from downtown.

2) Wasn't the "dandelion fountain" that was shaped like a tree...this one? If so, if you look at the placement of the skylight and the store in the background, and comparing that to the old 1982 mall directory, you would see that it was in front of Foley's.

3) According to the official fact sheet, the mall was renovated in 1994. If the ceilings already existed and all, what did they do?

4) The kid's play area opened in 2002 or so, but it isn't mentioned on the page. Perhaps you could get that as well?

5) I made some edits to the food court section. Tell me what you think. Remember, it's six now, because Corn Dog 7 closed. TheListUpdater (talk) 17:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll double check the Eagle archives for that time, but yes the source specifically said it moved from Manor East Mall. Manor East isn't exactly a tiny mall, despite its near death a few years ago :-P For the fountain, I used the description from the Eagle, including the note on it's location. The picture in the archive reels was too obfuscated to compare to that one though. The mall has been renovated a few times, I believe. Will have to check the archives on what was done in 1994. I know the first reno, 3 years after it opened, was to complete the mall and add the additional store space. For the kid's play area, need a source. I have a huge list of Eagle articles on Post Oak to check at the library. It spans from the year before it opened through I believe two years after. For beyond that, if you know the month it opened, it would help as I'd have to check the entire month/year reel to find articles. Silly Eagle only has a partial archive index :( -- ] (] · ]) 18:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I actually saw, in the 25th anniversary thing, they had the play area opening date listed. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture. Manor East Mall IS dead, the only remnant of the original mall is the Bealls/Jo-Ann building, everything else was torn down except for Hastings, which opened later. I never went inside Manor East except once, and it was mostly an empty corridor with a few windows and benches...everything was blue. I tried to ask around on Houstonarchitecture.info forums but only got a few dinky exterior pictures, which was a tiny comfort. TheListUpdater (talk) 19:41, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Um, have you not been around lately? Manor East has been completely renovated and expanded. Its now an outside strip mall, but it is very much revitalized with the new HEB, multiple restaurants (including the always on every corner Starbucks), a bank, the must have liquor store, etc. -- ] (] · ]) 19:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, that's kind of what I meant. It's not really a "mall" anymore at all. Of course there's an H-E-B, a Bealls, a Jo-Ann, and stuff. The wording was confusing, but what I meant was the building was torn down (for the strip center) only leaving Jo-Ann/Bealls and Hastings and the Theatre Co. The rest of the land was turned into a new Family Dollar, Baskin's, and H-E-B. Ever noticed that most of the malls on deadmalls.com have been redeveloped into a thriving strip center? Manor East Mall is no exception. It was torn down circa 2003, and my main point was that I didn't really know the interior decor or layout of the old mall. From what I can remember, it must have been an "L", with Montgomery Ward and Wal-Mart on the corners and Bealls at the angle. Hastings was "bolted on" to Wards. Yeah. Something like that. TheListUpdater (talk) 20:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

86.44.20.40

Is this really Abtract? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it is. I wouldn't put it past him, particularly with said IP bugging LessHeard vanU to review his block under the same sort of fuzzy logic Abtract likes to use to defend himself. But would have to do a check user to know for sure, and not worth the effort. -- ] (] · ]) 21:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
We should wait and see if he starts to edit pages that Abtract touched. Or is this one of those hopping ips? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I think it is. I wouldn't put it past him isn't really good grounds for announcing on ANI that "we all know" it is. That looks more like an attempt simply to smear someone who disagrees with your view of things. I've never had a registered account here, and you would have to wait quite a while before I would even read a manga article, never mind edit one. It's not an interest of mine.
My fuzzy logic is simply that you both refused to listen to the outside comments you yourself solicited, and still refuse to listen, hence thanks to the three of you we get all this disruption for no good reason. I don't view your going to ANI multiple times after not making this problem go away at the RFC as sound.
I still view Sessh's rejection of Abtract's apology and self-restrictions in April as remarkable. 86.44.20.40 (talk) 23:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Note that there is no criticism of Collectonion in my post to the RFC, and only the mildest criticism of Sessh. It's only now that this behaviour is becoming increasingly objectionable that I am openly critical of it. Does that not give you pause? 86.44.20.40 (talk) 23:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)