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FYI! I'm going on vacation! Well, I am going home. Hahaha, family reunion the whole family will be there except for one auntie. Ah yes, I am returning the paradise that is Her Majesty's Dominion of Canada - God save the Queen, cause no one else can. (Speaking of which I was on YouTube yesterday and OH MY FREAKING GOODNESS! The Buckingham Palace Guard was playing the Imperial March, and kid you not, out steps - you guessed it - Charles, Prince of Wales, with a devious grin on his face! HAHAHAHAH God save the queen indeed) And on a more sour note I will also be visiting my very French in-laws. My wife has been there for two weeks now and I am going to drag her home.. It normally take at least a week to convince her to return to the use of English, but with a little luck maybe I can cut that down to five days this time... God forbid she should force me to begin using that .... language... eh.. I digress.. I am leaving Friday, the 11th, will be gone two weeks. Will check in periodiclly, I think everything i am doing is pretty well caught up, haven't submitted any GAs the last couple weeks.. SO will do the ones I been working on when I get back. Charles Edward 01:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Welp, I'm about to be off.. I do have one a GA review pending for Benjamin Harrison, it's been there a fews weeks now, backlog and such. If, peradventure, someone should begin the review while I am away please, please, PLEASE put it on hold until I get back - I will definantly work to address any concerns in a prompt manner at that time. GA review wait time is so long, I'd hate to wait another month for a little tittle out of place. Charles Edward 03:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye on it; it's the least I could do.--Bedford 07:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm back!!! Wow that was fun! Back to work though now. Thank Bedford! Looks like it got a quick fail though, oh well - I will do some more work and try again. Charles Edward 01:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK:Bank of Indiana

Hi. I've nominated Bank of Indiana, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Misplaced Pages:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on July 3, where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, PFHLai (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok! Cool. I got to looking.. at it was actually four presidents, not three. And thats the record! I have updated the DYK to say four, and the article. Charles Edward 00:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Indiana Canal Company

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The Barnstar of Diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
For helping out with those accuracy improvements to South Bend Watch Company, a task that I was too lazy busy to do, I award you the Barnstar of Diligence! Keep up the great work, my expatriate Canadian friend. –xenocidic (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
  • P.S., she left another message at my talk page here, but I believe your change has already allayed her concern. I directed her to your talk page, or the article talk page, should she have any other concerns. –xenocidic (talk) 14:08, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! Charles Edward 14:25, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

July 10 DYK

Updated DYK query On 10 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bank of Indiana, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Napoleon talk

thanks for archiving. it's meant to autoarchive i think but it doesn't seem to be doing it and i looked into archiving it myself though the archive structure seemed a little more complicated than normal. having looked at your 2 edits it doesn't look as though it was really that complicated! Tom (talk) 10:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks i'm thinking of getting it to FA next, Tom (talk) 12:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Corydon pictures

I'm having the Military History WikiProject give an A-class review of Indiana in the American Civil War, at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Indiana in the American Civil War. I'll mend what they suggest, but I though you should know in case you check in. Happy vacation.--Bedford 00:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Corydon images

Could you mark all your pictures from Corydon as ], so we can keep track of them.. Thanks. Also, adding WikiProjects are for talk pages, including Image Talk pages; not the regular page for an Image.--Bedford 22:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok Thanks. Will do. Charles Edward 22:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Christopher Harrison

I found another source for information about Harrison while doing another artile. There was quite a bit about him, so you might want to check it out. It's in the new edit I made.--Bedford 01:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Rob Carmack

The guy who changed the date format twice on the Indiana article - he emailed me saying he thought he was following guidelines. Which made him sound like an experienced editor. But he's only made 3 edits, 2 on the Indiana article, one on an article on Chinese culture, all changing from CE to AD. Odd eh? Doug Weller (talk) 21:07, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

He must have a reason.. Maybe he will just tell us? Charles Edward 02:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
When I reverted him, he emailed me nicely saying he thought he'd followed the guidelines. I replied, no response. I hope he does answer. Doug Weller (talk) 04:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Charles, I emailed Doug and let him know about a personal reason why I thought we should revert the article to the BC/AD format. I will explain it here briefly. Please note this is not the only reason I feel we should use the standard date format rather than the newer format, just one that has affected my family personally.

My son did a research paper on the history of Indiana for school. He used multiple sources, but his main focus was this Misplaced Pages article. He look up the sources cited on this article, and went to the library and checked out a few books that were used here. He used both the article, books, and other sources. His paper was all over the place when it came to date formats. Sometimes he used BC sometimes he used BCE. He lost a few points for this. Though he didn’t fail , his point to me was that in the book, the author used BC but in the source cited, it used BCE. Now I have never edited Misplaced Pages before, but back in March, I thought I was correcting a mistake, and changed the article to BC/AD. It stayed that way until recently. In my humble opinion, I think it would be proper to stick with BC/AD, and since the format is only in a few places, I don’t think it would be a problem of consistency to do so. Thank you --Rob carmack (talk) 19:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

The sources cited in the book do indeed use both methods, as you said. For instance, Empires at War and Indiana and Indianan's used AD\BC, but A Colonial History of Vincennes and Indian Heritage of America use CE\BCE. It's really just a matter of using using one or the other since the meaning is exactly the same thing. CE\BCE has been the dominant form used scholarly works since Will Durant made it popular in the 1940-60s, but it has been in use since the 1600s. It is not necessarily secular either, it originally meant Before Christian Era and Christian Era. It's just a matter of choosing one and sticking with it.
I honestly do not care, swear on it, what system is used, but whatever it is needs to be consistant within the article and cannot be changed regularly especially in an edit war. On wikipedia the goal is to get an article up a rating scale, with Feature Article, or FA, being the highest ranking, meaning it can be featured on the main page. One of the requirements to get that rating is that there can be no ongoing or recent disputes or edit wars that affect the stability of the article. So presently, and sadly, this article is ineligible for that rating, which is the only level above it's current rating. So if you understand, all I am concerned about is keeping the article from having an edit war so I move forward with getting to FA status. If you wish to work with dougweller or the other editors who do care what system is used I would suggest going to the Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal and requesting a mediator to help you with the case, from there they could guide you as to what would be best to do in this situation. Because of the edit war I requested the page be semiprotected to prevent the edit war from continuing in which a kind administrator has obliged. I hope this helps :) Charles Edward 20:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Hines

Remember Thomas Hines, who we talked about on the Indiana in the American Civil War article? I did a major expansion of him, and welcomed any advice you might have for it, before it gets peer reviewed by the MILHIST guys. Thanks.--King Bedford I 02:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Bedford. I'd be glad to! First thing in the morning. lol (yawn) Charles Edward 02:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Sleep well. Personally, I'm an insomniac. *chuckle* --King Bedford I 02:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I did a bit of a copy edit on it and a bit of formatting. Feel free to undo anything I did! One thing you might add is, it says the Masonic University had struggles after Hines left and eventually closed, you might add why - ran out of money? lost all the teachers? that would be interesting to know. Overall I think it is really great. Probably good enough for a GA. Charles Edward 15:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I've been intending to write the Masonic University article for a while now; probably do it today or tomorrow.--King Bedford I 16:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Re. your message

My main problem is that the author has been linking / spamming to his sites (often using sock puppets), which are funded by DISCUS. See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Spam#About 400 links to the two sites of one individual. Therefore, he is basically a lobbyist with a vested interest in raising the profile of his site. Some of the pages are very sensible: others are very selective in their use of facts. The page you mentioned is quite a good example: about some groups it is matter of fact; about others, it is partisan and vitriolic. In short, I wouldn't regard it as at all reliable; I would look to primary sources in preference. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 23:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Copyeditor's Barnstar

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
For copyeditting again and again until you get it right, and in the process making several articles GA's, most recently Benjamin Harrison, I present unto you the Copyeditor's Barnstar. King Bedford I 22:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)