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Old messages are at:
- User talk:Giano II/archive 1 (2004)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 2 (2005)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 3 (2005)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 4 (2006)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 5 (2006)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 6 (2007)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 7 (2007)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 8 (2008)
- User talk:Giano II/archive 9 (2008)
Essays:
- A few thoughts on Misplaced Pages (unfinished)
Nasty things:
- Misplaced Pages's most shameful and disgraceful moment.Supported by the Arbcom, but begun by Ncmvocalist ; two diffs I never want to lose.
- Yet another embarrassing and dismal attempt by IRC#admins supporters to have me silenced - fails! In spite of FT2's best efforts
- My views in 2007 on the Arbcom etc
- Join the Arbcom & entrust your personal details to Misplaced Pages]
- IRC Chan Ops and Arbs & others who seem to want to be in authority
- The IRC page of the chanel's owner
- The death of IRC#admins
Please leave new messages below
DYK
Gentile Signor Giano - mi scusi, but I have nominated your wonderful page, Arabian Hall of the Winter Palace, at Template talk:Did you know.
I note in passing that some of your other recent and equally excellent pages - such as St George's Hall, and Apollo Hall of the Winter Palace, Nicholas Hall of the Winter Palace Jordan Staircase of the Winter Palace and Gardens of the Winter Palace - would also have made great DYK candidates.
Con i miei migliori saluti. -- Testing times (talk) 22:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Molto gentile Giano (talk) 22:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for being a champion of transparency and fairness
I will soon be blocked. But I wanted to thank you. I'm sorry that you aren't an Admin. But perhaps the real problem is that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Take care and thanks again. I don't have great hope for the outcome of your struggles, but they are noble. BobDysart (talk) 23:29, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
IRC follow-up
Hey,
You say here that you spoke to me as a channel op; thought I should clarify that I'm merely the Group Contact, and not really "in charge" of the channel - that's the job of the ops and superops. I'm merely there to represent the overall IRC communities, and discharge functions that cannot be resolved by others, over the several hundred Wikimedia-related IRC channels. Nevertheless, with situations as potentially serious as this, I try to be involved, giving advice to the various parties, so please don't think that I'm asking for you to ask others in future - it's just a suggestion that others will be both quicker to answer and more likely to be up-to-speed. For the matter itself, it appears now to be being resolved by that channel's leadership, but if you have any further concerns, please do tell me so I can help.
On the point that you felt I was "dismissive, patronising and pompous", I apologise. It was not meant in that way, merely the (perhaps too-sharp) response to your comment which made serious allegations without any context or fore-warning for me. Yet again, our conversations suffer from mis-communication, which must to at least some extent be my fault. Sorry.
James F. (talk) 00:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't seal with second in commands, I always go straight to the top. You are in charge, you own it. Sort it! Giano (talk) 07:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- nosey comment - Unless and until the en.wikipedia structure either is in control of or quits the #admins channel, these things will keep bubbling up. The various pages here that describe the irc system seem to indicate that you are infact the superboss. If that is not the case, you should make that clear. I know several folks who go to the highest person they know of when they have a problem. If that person can't deal with it, than their view is the whole system is a fail. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 00:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is no one dares to be in charge, it is a disorganised rabble. The Arbcom won't take control because they need the votes, and with so many admins in there, I doubt anything can be done to stop them permanently electing their own to Arbcom. It's a real wiki-problem. Giano (talk) 07:11, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Monsieur Wagner
Hi Giano—glad to see you around. Hmmm ... Wagner's not my thing, beyond a professional obligation to know the minimum (when I was a musician). Aren't all Wagner's works loud and based on descending scales <grin>.
As compensation for drawing a nil with this musician, all I can offer is two W jokes:
- The thing about Wagner's music is ... it's better than it sounds.
- You know the feeling: the Wagner opera starts at 6pm. After two hours, you look at your watch and it's 20 past 6. Tony (talk) 11:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, Tony for sharing those thoughts with us. Have you been writing your own jokes for long? Giano (talk) 23:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know whether that is of any relevance here, but the quote about the quality of Wagners music is actually late 19th century (and very true at that). 80.216.11.32 (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hmph, well can't please everyone I suppose, I quite like Wagner at full volume on the car radio, especially Ride of the Valkyrie when crossing Piazza Venezia. Giano (talk) 12:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know whether that is of any relevance here, but the quote about the quality of Wagners music is actually late 19th century (and very true at that). 80.216.11.32 (talk) 11:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, Wagner's music is quite fit. It's a little manipulative and produces a sort of single effect, and that leads some snobs to think he's simple or shallow. Pffft to them. It's not like he's John Phillips Sousa. On the other hand, the fellow's philosophy...shudder. His sister led an expedition to Central America to breed the ubermenschen, and the results are blotchy-skinned crazy people. The tumescent dream of pure blood and ethnicity would be unforgivable even if Hitler never existed. So, can we blame Wagner's music? No. Can we blame him? Probably not: it's the fault of the idiots who listen to musicians for their philosophy (like Britney or Sinead). Utgard Loki (talk) 13:12, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Very philosophical Utgard. I quite like Wagner on the whole, it is just all the boring bits inbetween the bits you can humm, that get in the way of a good evening out. Talking of good nights out, is that horrible thing, like a tart's lipstick, at the top of the page ging to stay there very long? I know America is over exuberated at the moment, but having that eyesore there is not going to encourage them to give what little money that Bush has left them with away. Can someone have a developer remove it? Giano (talk) 13:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- My preferences>Gadgets>Check "Suppress display of the fundraiser site notice". It is horrible. Tombomp (talk/contribs) 14:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- That's very clever, thank you. It's like a migraine being lifted. Giano (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, when it is satisfactorily explained to me why the foundation can throw 1000s of dollars into the trash can , then I may think about once again donating. Giano (talk) 22:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- "Trash can?" Is that what we're calling massage parlors now? Utgard Loki (talk) 12:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, Tony for sharing those thoughts with us. Have you been writing your own jokes for long? Giano (talk) 23:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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