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The Romanian forum

Hello Adriatikus, I see that you are a fresh Romanian user on Misplaced Pages, so I thought you'd be interested to learn that there exists an active portal for all Romanians here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Romanian_Wikipedian's_notice_board

Anclation 10:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Spiritism

Hi, Adriatikus! Could you tell me if is there any article in Romanian Misplaced Pages about it? If not, could you help me translating it, actually a simplified version of the English article? Arges 02:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

As Spiritism article in English Misplaced Pages is too long, I think we'd better make a simplified version. I did myself the core of this article in English, so I could send you a resume of its main points. What do you think? Arges 15:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I asked help for many users because I usually don't have answers from any... As you can see, only you and other guy responded my request. Anyway, my point is that Romanian is the only Latin language with no article about this subjetc. I did myself articles on Spiritism in Greek ans Russian, and improved significantly Portuguese, Italian, English and Spanish ones. I've surely had help from native speakers of these languages. And that's what I'm looking for! This is, at last for me, a very interesting subject, and I think it's a good idea to divulge a basic knowledge about it. It's a page of Science, Religion and Epistemology social transformations during European 19th century that many people, for different reasons, prefer to hide or forget. By the way, I did ask help for translating the article to Polish! And I've being thinking of other possibilities... Arges 22:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Did you receive the text? Arges 11:07, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! By the way, how do I say Spiritism in Romanian? Arges 14:35, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Adriatikus, I'm sorry that I didn't thank you before, for translating that text! Thank you very much, and I hope I can count on you for further projects! As well as you can surely count on me for whatever you need in Portuguese, Italian and a bit of Spanish! Arges 14:55, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Stavropoleos

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Stavropoleos Church, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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mo.wiki

Buna,

A inceput un vot pentru stergerea "Wikipediei Moldovenesti", o creatie a unui Evreu-American, cu origini suspecte in Basarabia si care nu vorbeste limba wikipediei la care pretinde a fi sysop. Il cheama Node ue si pentru a crea impresia ca lumea doreste aceasta wikipedie, a apelat la toti utilizatorii rusi care au venit sa voteze de partea lui desi nu cunosc bine subiectul si li s-a spus ca voteaza pentru supravietuirea alfabetului chirilic. Asa a ajuns ca votul sa fie 31 pentru stergerea Mo wiki, si 42 impotriva stergerii - deci in alte cuvinte pentru pastrarea wikipediei in limba "moldoveneasca". Vino si voteaza aici , ca sa sergem acesta creatura cu miros bolshevic, care insulta toti romanii de pe ambele maluri ale Prutului. Node ue le-a spus rusilor sa traduca mesajul lui in limba rusa si sa-l transmita mai departe. Trimite si tu mesajul acesta la toti utilizatorii romani-unionisti sau romani-moldoveni unionisti pe care-i cunosti pe en.wiki sau ro.wiki. Dapiks 23:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, impresionanta lista asta. Ar trebui sa ne folosim mai des de ea. Si se vede ca deja ai reusit s-ai inchizi gura :). Sa vedem si ce mai zic observatorii neutrii. Dapiks 06:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

So why don't we do the same, right? Tsk. Perhaps I should place a translation of this over there? --Illythr 17:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, this is much worse than Node did - he appealed only to some generic Russians, whereas you are "politically selective". --Illythr 17:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Ever heard of lobby ? Adriatikus 13:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

A pressure group, used to push the views of a political minority as those of the entire population? This is one of the key forms of political corruption that brought all the strife to my country back it the late 80s' and early '90s. Yes, I know it well. --Illythr 19:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Cool!

I didn´t think about it this way. :) I don know how to set the copyright flags correctly. I tried to do so, but it seems it does not work. ] 12:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Messing up the text

Huh, sorry man, how the heck did I do that?! I'll try to restore the text back as it was... --Illythr 17:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC) (pause, looks more closely) Oh, scared me there, you did. Whew! Well, if that's the way you want it, so be it. Didn't want to clutter up the page with those classic bullet-list-type debates... --Illythr 17:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

--

There was another nasty little trick you used - labeling:

• The only official body stating the existence of this language is the Moldovan Parlament, ruled by the communists.

Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but it looks like if Communists would be replaced with Bogeymen, the general idea of the sentence will remain intact. Especially since you happened to forget some of the facts I provided about these "Communists". --Illythr 17:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Transliteration

Hello Adriatikus. As posted on meta.wiki, I suggest we push not for transliteration on ro.wikipedia, but for the transformation of mo.wikipedia into a transliteration tool. Thus, the Romanian purists have it their way (and they are not entirely wrong, given that Romanian is not written in Cyrillic). Also, Moldovanists have their language code (which is what they want). And the people that may really be interested in the cyrillic content - the Romanians/Moldovans that (are forced to) use it in Transnistria - get the content, so that the overlords of wikipedia cannot object to the proposal on this ground. At the same time, the page containing the transliteration tool will explicitly say the text is transliterated from Romanian, which is fair enough for the Romanian contributors. And, most important, trolls cannot edit. :) Dpotop 09:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Try this link http://mcworld.org/McChirilic/?pagina=Limba_moldoveneasc%C4%83 for the transliteration tool. Never checked it, though. landroni 07:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

revert dispute International reactions to the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

Hi and welcome, There is an dispute in International reactions to the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. The dispute is over inclusion of the AIPAC reaction to a US House of Representatives Resolution expressing support for Israel. Various accusations are being thrown around by Comrade438 eg. im being accused of trying to paint a "zionist conspiracy".

Comrade438 has made few silly edits, and comments, along with what might be a threat. It degenerated to Comrade438 blocking the page without consulting WP:RPP, then reverting last changes. I am trying to alert other users who have edited the article to this dispute as I believe the detail should be included. Is it possible you can look and see if you agree that AIPAC's reaction should be included in the article? I dont believe its a content issue and is possible trolling. I previously highlighted the problems on wikipedian noticeboard 82.29.227.171 21:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

1. you should log in if you want to start a debate, and to receive reply
2. I think intl reactions does mean reactions of the governments
3. any reaction has its reasons, and it's up to analysts to argue on them and they largely remain a matter of speculation
4. writing in such an article about reasons and unofficial parties reactions would overload it; this isn't an analysis article; if this is to be done for US, what about the other countries?
5. should we also speculate about an "anti-terrorism like reaction of Israel" that forced US to accept its attack? this could be a good reason, don't you think?

In conclusion, I think the AIPAC paragraph is overload on the article, and also that this is a content issue. -- adriatikus | 22:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Transliterarea ro.wiki

Pe meta am lasat o legatura care te-ar ajuta in transliterarea ro.wiki in chirilica. Mi-i interesant daca ti-a fost utila si daca faci ceva in directia aceasta. Cred ca cel mai simplu ar fi de contactat pe Bogdan, autorul scriptului. --landroni 20:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Note on adding full Eastern Orthodox Project to your watchlist

This is a note for members of the Eastern Orthodox Project: Since the project's main page has been converted to a portal-style box format, each of the boxes is actually its own page (you can see the page outside its box by clicking the 'Edit' link on any often the section boxes on the project page, which takes you to the edit page for its contents). Because of this, updates to individual box contents will not necessarily show up on editors' watchlists, if you've only got the main project page watched.

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Closure of the Moldovan Misplaced Pages

It seems the database has been locked there and the voting is considered closed by the supporting side. I guess you can close the lobby now. :-) --Illythr 23:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Diamonitirion

Hi, I answered to your question on my talk page. Cheers. --Michalis Famelis (talk) 00:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Mind-body dichotomy

Hi Adriatikus, the difference is that Mind-body dichotomy is the starting "point" of Dualism, and Dualism is broader. This is already stated in the article, I thought it was clear but maybe it can be further clarified. Cheers. --BMF81 13:26, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 8 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Prodromos (Mount Athos), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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Sources

Stoglov(One hundred Chapters) of 1551, CHAP. 31: The sign of the cross must be made according to the rules, in the form of a cross; and the right hand, that is, the dextral hand, must be used in crossing oneself, with the thumb and the two lower fingers joined together, and the extended index finger joined to the middle finger, slightly bent; thus should prelates priests give their blessing and thus should men cross themselves. . . . It befits all Orthodox Christians to hold their hand thus, and to make the sign of the cross upon their face with two fingers, and to bow, as we said before. If anyone should fail to give his blessing with two fingers, as Christ did, or should fail to make the sign of the cross with two fingers, may he be accursed. . .

The Psalter printed under the Patriarchate of Patriach Joseph of Moscow

Blessed Theodoret

Patriarch Germogen(Who was starved to death by Catholic authorities during the Polish invasion of Russia in 1612)

Canon Six of the 318 holy Fathers("Let the ancient customs prevail, those of Egypt,…” )

Archpriest Avvakum

Timothy Ware

The oldest icons confirm the correct practice.

St. Anna Kashinsky

The Book of Answers, by Barbara Berliner

Saint Bede: “The antichrists, the heretics, though they invoke the name of Christ and make the sign of the Cross, they are nevertheless of the world; they savor worldly things”

Shadow of Antichrist by David Scheffel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldfaith123 (talk • contribs) 00:12, May 16, 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

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		I award this Barnstar to Adriatikus in recognition of his particularly fine contributions to Misplaced Pages. --Michalis Famelis (talk) 15:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

RE:Church of the Nativity

Yes I know of the Church's supreme religious significance, however the article is linked and/or mentioned constantly throughout Bethlehem (Take a look at the entire history section). Because it is linked so often, I don't think it should be present at the Further reading heading at the top of the section. The Nativity of Jesus on the other hand, is an article devoted to the birthplace of Jesus which perfectly fits that particular section's context. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say, Cheers! --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Church link stays! I don't really think we need it there but if you think it should stay, I don't have a problem with it, it does no harm. --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Truth

O.K. not to be mean but you must not do research. Christmas is a pagan holiday. Let me explain, When Emperor Nero took over he had many holidays (easter is another example) but they had different names. When Nero took over he had to find a way to celebrate these holidays those who already celebrated it and the Christians so he wouldn't have a riot against him by one group. Christmas is one of those holidays. Christmas (I can't remember what it was origionally called) was origionally a year where people would torture the Jews, for example, they would fatten them up and make them go door to door singing song while unclothed (where Christmas carols came from). And I don't want to change the Jesus article name to Yeshua I just want somebody to mention that it is His REAL name because ther is NO J in the Hebrew alphabet (there is a yod in the Hebrew alphabet which is like a Y). I don't want to start a ""fight"" over this thing but this the true origion of Christmas and Jesus's real name. The K.O. King (talk) 23:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

If you want the TRUE origion of Christmas here are some links. ] and ]. Nuff' Said!!! The K.O. King (talk) 02:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

So your just going to throw away truth because it wasn't made by a scientist. I am sorry at how blinded this world has become. The K.O. King (talk) 23:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

How about this link, http://www.thecrg.org/books/ttoc.html? I just wabt you to know that this is history and a scientist can't tell you about history you can find the TRUE origion of christmas on any encyclopedia (except for apparantly this one). The K.O. King (talk) 23:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I guess the source didn't come up like I thought. Try typing it in manually. The K.O. King (talk) 19:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

How am I insulting your intelligence??!!! If anyone is insulting intelligence it is YOU Mr. If it's not written by a scholar or a scientist it must be true even though history can't be changed. You just can't except the fact it is really really sad. Look it up and study history yourself. Just tell me why are you being so stubborn about this? Are you scared of history? The K.O. King (talk) 00:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Help, please

{{helpme}}

Hi! Someone has uploaded an image on Commons with the wrong attribution. The image is actually mine. The user who did it is , and the image is . I've originally uploaded it to another site under a free license. Can't remember where, but I'll find it in 24hrs. The problem isn't the license, but the attribution. I can prove I'm the author because I always upload images (including WP) at a lower resolution than the original, and I have the original - the uploaded image is 1024x768, the original 1600x1200 (if some an admin wants to check, I'll e-mail it). I also have other photos from the same location because I've done them... from the window of my home.

This is plain theft and because I'm angry I think it's best for me not to speak with the uploader. Thank you. adriatikus | talk 10:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

7 images uploaded by that user have already been deleted as copyright violations. Most likely, the image of yours they uploaded is a copyright violation as well, because almost all the free licences you're likely to have used have attributing the author as a condition. (The exceptions are CC-sa (as opposed to CC-by-sa) and 'public domain', neither of which require attributing the author.) If you find the original source, or let someone trusted know (I'm an admin here but not on Commons), the image would qualify for speedy deletion as an obvious copyright violation (after which you could upload your own, correctly attributed version, or I could upload it for you with correct attribution if you let me know which license you like and how to attribute it; even if you can't, the image would most likely qualify for ordinary-speed deletion as a probable copyright violation, but that takes longer. I'll put a copyright-challenge notice on that image now. Hope that helps! --ais523 11:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the information; I've marked the image as a speedy-deletable copyright violation, and a Commons administrator should delete it soon. (The image can be reuploaded in a non-copyvio manner when the infringing version is deleted, either by you or by anyone else who actually obeys the image's license.) --ais523 11:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

dyk

On 6 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mary's Tomb, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Christopher Panagiotis

Christopher Panagiotis is perfect--Phiddipus (talk) 15:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

I am sorry if any of my previous comments offended you in any way. We have our own thoughts and own ways of thinking. I do ask that you take a look at my church's website http://www.lojministries.org or actually visit us we are located at 612 North Mainstreet Blackstone Virginia and our telephone number is 434-292-1213 it would be great to see you there one day. Again, I am sorry if any of my comments bothered or offended you. The K.O. King (talk) 15:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't just for Easter I just thought that my attitude wasn't very Christ like I want the Lord's light to shine through me. Thank you for forgiving me. The K.O. King (talk) 01:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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Your controversial edits on Moldova article

Please refrain from editing the article, where you cover your edits with "adding new info' comment, and deleting at the same time important info, against the difficult consensus reached among different users. This kind of editing is rather wicked from your side. Operating threats of a ban in my regard by polluting my talk page at the same time is even more wicked.--Moldopodo 17:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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Hi! Here is a voting about Bendery/Bender/Tighina: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bender%2C_Moldova#Statement_of_Title_Solution --80.142.252.220 (talk) 19:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

SOAP

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Hello, It appears that Kongas/Congas is the Bulgarian name (Конгас; probably of Turkish origin) of a village in Northern Dobrogea/Добруджа, which became Romanian territory in 1878. Is there an institution in Romania which keeps record of old village names and could be contacted via e-mail? – Tseno Maximov 11:55, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm not aware of such a database. But if you can provide more details (like what exactly do you search, or any related info to your search, or approx. location) I'll try to help. Just an old name is not enough (I think you've already googled a lot). adriatikus | talk 12:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

It's OK to talk via e-mail if you want to. adriatikus | talk 12:12, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

History of the Moldovan language merge

Based on the discussion in this article's talk page, I made a proposal and gave its rationale . You are receiving this standard message because during the last 12 months you have editted either this article or its talk page, or both. Dc76\ 00:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Re to Survey answer

Your essay there provides a sensible point, although I can't say I fully agree with you. However, you answered "Yes" to the survey question, but you didn't provide a rationale per se: i.e. why it's OK to say "X₁ was supported by Soviets", but not OK to say "X₂ was supported by Nazis". Thanks for you answer.Xasha (talk) 16:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. If you cut out the first thing ("Generally yes"), you'll find the rest coherent. Your question is not actually a question. Do you really expect someone to say "yes"? Or you wanna fight your own war with someone around? Dunno. I haven't digged it, and I probably won't. That's the first reason I didn't wanna play your game if there is such a thing -- it's not an accusation, it's a precaution measure I've took. Then, the first sentence was only to make you read the rest with some adrenaline in the blood. Why? Based on your past arguments with me, you kinda deserved it. adriatikus | talk 18:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

There a too many facutal innacuracies in that collection that can be disproved by more reliable sources, so I have no reason to read the whole of it. No, you're the one who doesn't know anything but what they've told you in the Romanian nationalist history classes. Imperial Russia wanted to impose the Russian language on everybody, it didn't give a fig on what the locals spoke, and as I've explained in that talk page, a claim of common language would have served very well Russia's interests against the Ottomans in the early 19th century, but they just went with what the locals said. Moreover, since they preserved almost in full the Moldavian feudal laws for a while, they would have had no problem to preserve Romanian language, if that would have been the case. But it wasn't so the only two legal languages in Bessarabia were Moldavian and Russian, and after a while, only Russian. As a mather of fact there was no Romanian nationalism then, which was actually fostered by Imperial Russia in the 1830s for its own political goals in the Balkans (even if probably it doesn't write that in the Romanians students' books)Xasha (talk) 15:10, 11 November 2008 (UTC)