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Wynchard Bloom

Hi Sarah

I am writing to you about Wynchard Bloom and how he has been a big nuisance in my Misplaced Pages history which all have basically started last week. I was banned for 4-5 days because of his false assumptions and silly complaints that he had filed against me. You could also view my talk page (if you haven't already) to further enhance your idea of the situation and how he has been depriving all of us including the Administrators from the truth. My main concern now, which has been the reason why i got into wikipedia, is several Filipino celebrity articles in which (in my opinion) he has been vandalizing although according to him, he has been contributing. One of the main celebrities that i have been justifying is Sam Concepcion and the article on this person has been severely affected by Wynchard's edits. I don't see any positives as to how he has improved his article and indeed has depleted the article from useful information. I am currently consulting Master Of puppets (administrator) on why should his revision be reverted back to the original however have been put on hold and therefore i am consulting you for your opinion. My edits (the one im trying to justify which was the original one) is said to be "questionably NPOV" I have reviewed your history and have seen that you are aware of Wynchard's edits and you are reverting his edit just like on Jay-R Siaboc. I have raised a suggestion to bring back the original edit however, i have been denied of this and have been told that i should just work from Wynchard's edits. I just don't see how any of his contributions could still be valid and i don't also think he'll have a strong valid reason regarding his concern on that article. Please read my talk page as i have raised lots of issues there in regards to Wynchard as i couldn't make other comments elsewhere except my page due to all the false accusations he has filed against me. I also want to thank you for your investigation against Wynchard and how you have proved who really is guilty. Anyway please investigate on this matter about reverting Wynchard's edits on Sam Concepcion's Page. Thank you. You are my hero on wikipedia for catching Wynchard's wrong-doings and blocking him.  :) Slemcal (talk) 01:10, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Slemcal. I removed some of Gerald's edits per the banning policy - Misplaced Pages:BAN#Enforcement by reverting edits. I looked at the Sam Concepcion article that you mention but I'm not comfortable restoring your version because I don't think language like "Multimedia Heartthrob", "has steadily risen towards stardom" and "young and famous" is NPOV or encyclopedic language. Also, it lists out unsourced information about not notable minors and other relatives which I don't think is appropriate and WP:BLP has a specific presumption in favour of privacy especially for not notable people. I feel that a lot of that material about award nominations and percentage of votes is unnecessary (and all unsourced). So I'm not going to restore that material and I don't think you should either. When you add material to biographies, it's really, really important that you cite sources to comply with BLP and verifiability policies. Sarah 06:56, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps, if you restore it back to before wynchard blooms edit, and add an {{POV-check}} tag, hopefully that it will induce its major contributors to re-edit the page and reconsider. It wasn't really me who gathered and added those information on the page. Furthermore, those people are not really regular users and only want to contribute to that page so more likely they won't be aware of those rules. Would it be possible though, if you restore that revision and perhaps give us time to edit the page so that it will satisfy, Misplaced Pages's criteria. I'll try and get it across to that page's major contributor to follow the rules. if we compare his revision to the old one, its just degrading to see that kind of set back, even though i wasn't even the one who put all those information up. however, i will contribute and try meet wikipedia's standard, although i was hoping to work back from the original. would you be able to consider that? thanks Slemcal (talk) 07:09, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I can't revert it back because I believe some of the material in "your" version, especially the personal information about not notable relatives is a violation of the policy on Biographies of living people. I'm in favour of removing banned editor's edit but not when I think doing so would violate BLP or degrade the quality of articles. I think it would be better if you just started working on the article as it is now, leaving out information about not notable relatives and being careful to use neutral language and citing verifiable, reliable sources for any information you add to it. Sarah 07:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
ok then, so would it be possible for me to edit the page even with semi-protection? i just don't want to be blocked again. thanks Slemcal (talk) 07:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
in regards to deleting, and editing, Would i still be able to do that? i just want your confirmation as i don't to be banned later on. thanksSlemcal (talk) 07:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
with the picture that has been uploaded, i thought you asked for the picture to be deleted so i asked if i can delete however i have checked it and that uploader stated that it is self made. "I don't believe the editor who added it really owns the copyright. It looks like a professional image." it could be perhaps the photographer is the uploader and from the pic and there is no water marks to prove it is copyrighted. So yeah, what do you think? Slemcal (talk) 07:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
In regards to this, http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Samster101#Image:SamConcepcion-2.jpg, perhaps this user is the photographer and at the same time being quite careless because they are probably not familiar with the rules and is only there for the sole reason of contributing to Sam Concepcion's Page. Plus, the person probably doesn't go on that much and does not know of the rules in Misplaced Pages. In fact, their picture could still be legible, as if it was a professional picture, and i was the photographer, i wouldn't really let any one have the original without Watermarks to identify its copyrighted. Nor would i let people have copies, and so perhaps the person who has probably have been accused of so many things is just someone clueless like me. If i was a photographer and had a job, i wouldn't be spending my time on wikipedia reviewing all the rules. And now a days, with the technology we have, we could actually get a picture with that kind of finish. It does really add to wikipedia's reputation having that kind of picture as if we put normal fan pics, taken by fans, it'll end up in a "Fannish" finnish and look more like a blog regardless of whether the information are NPOV. :) just in case this will make you change your mind. Slemcal (talk) 08:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thanks for explaining to me why you don't allow these images and just like how the saying goes, we do learn something new everyday :) regardless of your decision, i would just like to thank you for everything especially with what you have done to Gerald/wynchard. "I hope you don't have any further problems from Gerald and his socks", i hope so too and im pretty sure as long as you're around, he won't be much of a problem anymore. Thanks! Have a good night Slemcal (talk) 09:21, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Current AN/I

Hi Sarah, there is an ANI thread currently on Simulation12 in case you are interested. Cheers,
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 03:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay thanks, I'll have a look in a minute. I've already blocked her. Initially I was just going to give her a final warning but then I thought there's no point in dragging this out further. And she's had plenty of warnings and opportunities to change her behaviour but continues being a pest. So I went ahead and blocked her. Sarah 04:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Your name has been inscribed for all eternity on my List of Friends and Benefactors. (Well, if I had one, it would be.) Seriously, I canNOT thank you enough for making that move. Had I not been so "involved", I would have done it myself a few hours ago, so I am THRILLED that you took care of the block. I hereby award you all the pictures of cookies, cute kitty-cats, bunnies, barnstars, and smiles that Misplaced Pages has to offer. GJC 06:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Twice as much thank-you then Gladys! For 3 months she pested me and when i told her the truth about her editing she insulted me and Gladys on her page, it was like she was some cyber-stalker. Elbutler (talk) 12:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
My pleasure, people. I must say I feel a bit bad that I didn't do this earlier. A few weeks back I put her pages on my watchlist with the intention of stepping and blocking if she continued being a pest but I haven't been on Misplaced Pages a lot recently and so wasn't able to keep a close eye on the situation. My apologies for letting it drag on as long as it has. Sarah 22:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, I've blocked that IP you (Gladys) mentioned on ANI. It's blocked for one month with account creation disabled, so hopefully that'll give y'all a nice, peaceful Christmas at least.:) Sarah 22:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for that. We can hope. Cheers :)
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 23:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Jesus Youth

I'm tryin to create an article about Jesus Youth. But as i submit the article it just got deleted. Can you please help me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samantony (talkcontribs) 03:51, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

This article has been deleted five times at "Jesus Youth" and four times at "Jesus youth". Given it's been deleted nine times, it's probably a sign that this is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages. It seems that the primary problem is concerns about notability. Please look at the Notability guidelines to be sure that this group warrants an article under Misplaced Pages guidelines. Your own version was deleted as a copyright violation. Please do not copy and paste material from other websites, books etc and upload them to Misplaced Pages. Instead you need to write articles in your own words. We do not accept material copied from elsewhere. Sarah 02:00, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Help please

Hi Sarah - can you please do something about Image:Hornsbydockplatform.jpg. Damiens.rf nominated this for deletion on the grounds that it was only licensed for Misplaced Pages (which it wasn't). The IfD was speedy closed. Now he is trying to blot out the advertising in the image on the grounds that it is copyrighted. The picture is not of the advertising, it is of the platform below it: there is no way I could have taken that photo to exclude the advertising because the only publicly accessible place to take it from was the station platform, and in any event the platform has now been demolished. I thought freedom of panorama laws in the US protected images like this from being copyrighted because the image is not of the ad board and is not a copy of it, my picture just happens to have an ad board on it. In any case I think Damiens.rf is still trying to harass me because he couldn't get his image deleted any other way. Is there some way to protect the picture or something? Any help would be much appreciated - I don't know what to do. INTGAFW (talk) 05:32, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving Sarah! Elbutler (talk) 23:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! We don't actually celebrate Thanksgiving here in Australia but I do appreciate the thought and I hope you have a good time and enjoy your Thanksgiving dinner! Sarah 00:13, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Kogan Creek power Station Edit by phanly / dinghy

Hi Sarah, As you were involved in the fracas of my making re edits re CARMA estimates for an Australian Coal Fired Power Station I wanted to give you the opportunity to consider the edits I intend to make: Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Kogan_Creek_Power_Station,_Queensland A similar edit to that intended there will also be relevant to each other article on coal fired power stations in Australia As CARMA is the best available and a reliable source for an estimate using the specific page on their web site which deals with the specific power station as a reference under Misplaced Pages guidelines is not link spamming. Kind regards dinghy (talk) 20:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't involved in "the fracas of (your) making re edits re CARMA estimates". I was simply the administrator who cleared the unblock requests, reviewed your sock's unblock request and discovered your abusive sockpuppetry. I have no real interest in this beyond the fact that I believe you use socks to try to keep your primary account clean and distant from your spamming (and yes, going from article to article inserting lobby group links is spamming). I think you would do well to forget about trying to spam your link into articles and go do something else. Sarah 01:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Singer's Midgets deletion

Hello. I see you speedily deleted the article Singer's Midgets on October 4. Just out of curiosity, would I be able to get a copy of that article? The Singer Midgets were a pretty important performing troupe in the 1930s (they have their own entry in this Vaudeville encyclopedia), and I think they should be covered in Misplaced Pages somewhere. Zagalejo^^^ 03:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing. I will email it to you in a few minutes. Sarah 04:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Would it be possible for me to start a new article on the topic? I'm confident that, with a little research, I can write something that's fully compliant with all policies and guidelines. Zagalejo^^^ 20:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
That's fine, Zagalejo. I deleted the article on the merits of that particular version and it doesn't prejudice any future article on the same subject, so if you want to write a new one you're most welcome to do so. Sarah 08:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)