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My crap Stuff and nonsense This user is an administrator on the English Misplaced Pages. (verify) This user has a userpage on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki. 15,000+ This user has made over 15,000 contributions to Misplaced Pages Smert' spamionem! This user is a member of WikiProject Spam. BEng This user has a Bachelor of Engineering degree. Reading January 2025 17 Friday 11:55 pm UTC Were this admin to act in a foolish, trollish, or dickish way, he is open to being slapped with a large trout.

I check in most evenings, and occasionally some days during the day. I am on UK time (I can see Greenwich Royal Observatory from my office). If you post a reply at 8pm EST and get no reply by 10pm, it's likely because I'm asleep. My wiki interests at the moment are limited. I still handle some OTRS tickets. You can find me on facebook: my profile. Please include your WP username if sending a friend request.

Dispute resolution, Bible style - and actually an excellent model on Misplaced Pages as well.

If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.
But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'

If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

— Matthew 18:15

Please do not try to provoke me to anger, it's not difficult to do, so it's not in the least bit clever, and experience indicates that some at least who deliberately make my life more miserable than it needs to be, have been banned and stayed that way. Make an effort to assume good faith and let's see if we can't get along. Guy (Help!) 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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Note to self

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Istria&diff=192329190&oldid=189359747

John Bambenek DRV

When I saw yesterday that JB was once more at DRV, I came to your talk page to entreat you not to close it speedily or, at the very least, not to partake of the (relatively light-hearted, I admit) sarcasm with which you have closed at least two previous DRVs, but I concluded that you would refrain from such dickishness and so offered no note; I was distressed, then, to see that you had to go down that road again. Your comment was, as ever, gratuitous, and I continue to be surprised at your willingness to deride a living person (or to speculate about the nominator's being that person), your being so often situated on the hardline extreme of BLP construction. Even if it is reasonable, AGF's not being a suicide pact, for us to assume that a user whose first edits are to DRV is a single-purpose editor who has some interest in JB's having an article, we needn't to be obnoxious in dismissing that user, particularly where he/she, whatever his/her motives, is willing to make an effort to offer us a draft that means to comply with our guidelines (we don't, after all, refuse an article simply because we do not like its creator or because we think him/her to be interested only in self-aggrandizement; we not infrequently keep articles that began as self-promoting biographies where there exist sufficient sources toward notability). Your brusque style is prized by many in the community, to be sure, but your desire to be clueful and sensible needn't to lead you to be sarcastic; at the very least I hope you will hold back the unnecessary "Bye, John"-type comment when next the issue arrives at DRV. Joe 20:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• The guy is playing a game. We know who it is, he knows we know. The sockpuppet is tagged, as many of his sockpuppets are. If he cared, I'm sure he would write to OTRS, but actually he makes it so blindingly obvious that I'm absolutely sure he is sharing the joke. And I am quite serious about that. "Bye, John" is absolutely not an attack or anything else, it's a friendly wave to a long-standing "adversary" whose efforts these days lack any evidence of the earlier malice. It's also a low-key reminder that we have not forgotten. If you want to look for problems, look at the banned users list, where he is listed by full name. Guy (Help!) 21:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

you need to warn an editor

Hello, you put a resolved tag on the request to put an user under WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE discretionary sanctions at Mucoid plaque . Howeverm you didn't add anything to User_talk:Heelop. You should leave him the Template:Pseudoscience enforcement standard message (the arbcom case requires that such a warning is given) and tell him what sanction you are placing (topic ban, whatever). --Enric Naval (talk) 22:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• Fair point. I left a note. Guy (Help!) 22:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I also added an entry to the log of notifications, as it appears to be required. --Enric Naval (talk) 01:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Quick explanation

You recently endorsed an AFD close for Assyrian Christian Stele. I'm obviously not understanding something, so hopefully you can help. Why does a lack of sources not matter in this case? Someone basically made a name for an object that no published source has ever used, and yet that doesn't seem to matter. Why does WP:RS and WP:OR not apply (or why do some people just seem to not care about it)? I'm not trying to be a dick with this, I honestly don't understand how something that is without question an OR violation gets continually overlooked and/or approved by people. Otebig (talk) 23:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• Good question. The reason was that the AfD debate was correctly (IMO) interpreted by the closer. I share your concern about the lack of sources, but redirects are cheap so the only bar they usually need to pass is being a likely search term and not being obviously crass, offensive or demeaning to the subject. I hope this is reasonably consistent with policy. After a few weeks, when the dust has settled, the redirect can be considered in isolation, but what the AfD delivered was not to have the article at Assyrian_Christian_Stele which I think is correct and addressed the concerns at nomination, at least to a first approximation. Guy (Help!) 22:38, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

I see above that you admit you are a developer of TurnKey Linux. We have a policy on conflict of interest and we really don't like self-promotion. If you continue to make waves about your article about your product, you may be blocked fomr editing for disruption. Guy (Help!) 22:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

• I will continue to express my opinions and advocate for what I believe in despite your threats to censor me for "making waves". Threatening language is abusive and counter-productive to the well-being of the project, especially when it comes from someone that has been granted additional privileges.

• There is no conflict of interest since both my contributions to Misplaced Pages and my contributions to TurnKey Linux serve the free software community, not myself personally. This is not self promotion, as I am not promoting myself. I am advocating for a free software project I contribute to, much as I contribute to Misplaced Pages and the Open Directory Project. I also contribute to Ubuntu, so does that mean I can't contribute to Ubuntu articles on Misplaced Pages? Or to articles about ODP? - LirazSiri (talk) 23:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Trash

Thanks for trying to keep WP from being a venue for hate speech.--Elvey (talk) 21:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

• No problem, not one of the more obvious or blatant ones, but insidious I think. Guy (Help!) 22:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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