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IMO the paragraph on Ethnic polarisation must be deleted and all contributors and administrators directed to ignore any inferences it may contain.Politis (talk) 13:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. I have touched on the subject in my section . I think it's offensive (bordering on WP:OUTING) and demeaning towards people, judging them by where they were born instead of the content of their posts. --Radjenef (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- I oppose. One of the main issues that this arbitration is attempting to decide is the effect of nationalistic and parochial points of view on the stonewalling and failure to reach any consensus in articles such as Macedonia. This is a serious problem in Misplaced Pages and needs to be addressed. There is no outing here since all such identifications are based on self-identifications by the users themselves. This is the fundamental problem which lies at the root of this arbitration. If the Greek side in this issue had not made a point of it themselves, then it would not be an issue, but time and time again, we see the vandalism of Macedonian articles linked to Greek politics with overt statements in the edit line. We see statements such as "Greeks will oppose this name until we die", etc. scattered throughout the talk page at both Talk:Greece and Talk:Macedonia. The issue is an issue of entrenched and uncompromising nationalism. That is the issue that needs to be discussed. (Taivo (talk) 17:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC))
Comment I also disagree with this list and it should be deleted. I don't even think the list is correct, wasn't it terminated halfway through the straw poll? Jack forbes (talk) 17:38, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- I oppose that's key to this case. It's Greek POV fought teeth and nails by mostly Greek editors. Present your own case and your own arguments, let the commission make up its mind after reading all the evidence presented, militating for removing arguments and evidence presented by one party is unfair in this context. man with one red shoe 17:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- I think we have to keep all the evidence. It isn't for us to decide what evidence is or is not relevant. Also, honestly, if the arbitrators find some of the evidence presented to them faulty or evidence against the person presenting the evidence, that's acceptable too. But we should leave all the sections of evidence presented by everybody alone. Only those person adding the evidence contained in a particular section is supposed to edit that sections, anyway. John Carter (talk) 17:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)