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Keep up the good work!

It's great to see the long-overdue articles on Dmitry Levitsky and Fedor Rokotov finally appear on the Wiki. It would have been nice of you to announce newly created articles here. Thanks. --Ghirlandajo 20:44, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Template for cities

• Would not it be usefull to create a universal template for an infobox related to a Russian city, something like Template:US City infobox? It might contain English name, Russian Name, Population, Lattitude/Longitude, Post code, Phone code, Foundation year, Architectorial landmarks, Famous people connected. If you think it is worth doing, I could start it. abakharev 10:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Alex, I don't think it is a good idea. We have a number of city templates already, but actually they are not very informative and don't prettify atricles too. Also, most of the Russian city articles are stubbish, which result in the tiny article being overloaded with images, tables, and templates. By the way, I moved your porposal to the Misplaced Pages:Wikiportal/Russia/Russia-related Misplaced Pages notice board, which is intended for such announcements. --Ghirlandajo 12:38, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks, for moving the proposal, would not do it again. You are more experienced wikipedian, so you must be right. abakharev 12:51, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

No worries

←Humus sapiens←ну? 06:07, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Alex, I don't think it is fair to send Yesenin to the US. Perhaps he briefly visited the US but did not emigrate. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 05:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

He lived there for two years, if he would not divorse Isadora Duncan he would probably live there indefinetly (at least it was her plan).

Sorry I didn't know that. If you could his bio stating the years, that'd be great. Also, what's the story of Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii? Thanks much. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 05:32, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Removed Prokudin-Gorsky, he seemed to settle to France, only his photos some how moved to Library of Congress, that was the source of confusion. 05:38, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Copyright issues

Hello! Take care lest your wonderful images of Larionov's, Goncharova's, and Serebryakova's works be deleted. I don't believe they are public domain, because the painters died less than 50 years ago. --TintoRetto 09:08, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

• They are works of Russian painters, exponated in Russian galleries and published in Russian and Soviet catalogs, most of them are from Russian museums. Soviet Union (and Russia) jointed copyright convention quite late, thus all the works exponated before 1973 are Public Domain ouside fSU. Thus, the label Template:Sovietpd. abakharev 09:31, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Russia Portal

Thank you very much. Presently I am involved in Venona project materials, decyphered Soviet transmissions from the U.S. between 1942 - 1946. This project may take several months, and presently I am attempting to separate GRU networks from KGB (predesseser) networks, as well as KGB & GRU illegal networks. Boris Bykov, for example, does not fit into Category:NKVD, so I would very much welcome the opportunity to work with others who have interest in organizing this material. Regarding your request, do you have any specific subject regarding Soviet foreign intelligence operations in mind? Thank you very much. nobs 16:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Yet another thanks, for keeping Portal:Russia/New article announcements up-to-date and correcting my flop. Cheers. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 06:58, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Kondia

Thanks for a very speedy reply. --Valentinian 23:04, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

OMO

A question has come up regarding the piece on Shevchenko. What is the meaning of OMO? I assume it is an acronym for a branch of the Soviet foreign ministry. Wonder if you can help out here. See discussion page on Shevchenko article. Xtrump 10:34, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

• Shevchenko was at a time the vice-chairman of Otdel Mezhdunarodnykh Organizatsij (department of international organiztions) of Ministery for Froeign Affairas of USSR. I have put this info into the article abakharev 13:40, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Finite difference

Thanks -- didn't notice that there was already a "finite difference". Good catch! zowie 16:42, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Icons

Thank you for your earlier help on the Icon article. Editing on it has slowed down considerably, but at least the edit wars seem to be over. I moved most of one section to a new article, Russian icons, simply to save space. Any help you can offer with any remaining cleanup would we welcome and appreciated. Wesley 00:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Moscow Metro

What is your justification for changing the spelling of many of the Moscow Metro station names? The previous spellings seem to be the generally accepted ones, and your changes have created a lot of inconsistencies. Camerafiend 00:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

• Apostrophes in the article's titles are against Misplaced Pages tradition, they might be wronly interpreted in the address bars of some browsers, in search requests, etc. Many English-speaking peoples does not have a clue whow to prononce Russian words with apostrophes inside, etc.

• Maybe we should discuss this with User:Mikkalai who is very vocal in opposition to apostrophes (see Portal:Russia/New article announcements). abakharev 00:36, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

That makes sense. However, the changes have created a lot of inconsistencies that someone will have to fix. Camerafiend 00:41, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Grigoriy Frid

Hello Alex! Thanks for looking at the article about Frid and thanks for considering to trans-wiki it to the German wikipedia. Lucky Germans now have two Frids :) but I'm sure they will figure it out all right. My question to you is about what's left here in the English wikipedia: you reduced it to a stub-stub; is it your opinion that it actually isn't worth translating? Or perhaps you would be interested to give it further translation and expand it a little, and just need more time? In which case I thought I'd let you know that the copyvio question came up so it might be wiser to wait out a bit. You can check out the status on the page with the list for required translation. Your help is very valuable!

Perhaps I should have introduced myself earlier... consider I finally found an excuse :) My name is Vera, I also work in the Russian wiki under the ru:User:Bepa account. I don't contribute much, but am strongly willing to do more as I learn, and find the time. Kind regards - Vera Introvert 03:16, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Alex, большое спасибо. Т.е. вы считаете, что то, что было, незачем переводить? Вы практически удалили немецкий текст, вот почему я спросила. Если бы там был хороший текст, то кто-нибудь со знанием немецкого перевел бы. Я подозреваю, что тот текст был несколько примитивный (насколько я смогла немного прочитать), да еще и copyvio... в общем, бог с ним, наверное, подожду я - две недели на перевод дается. Всего доброго и спасибо еще раз - Introvert 08:58, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Please be careful with the "This is a minor edit chackbox"

Hi! Please, only mark your edit as minor if it doesn't actually change the meaning of the article. Fixing spelling errors, adding punctuation, etc. Thank you! :) --Ashenai (talk) 13:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Ukraine related topics

Alex, I've seen you were writing for a Ukraine portal too. So, I am asking you whether you have time desire to check out several edit conflicts caused by a new user:AndriyK. So far, I am getting all the heat for taking it upon myself to deal with this user and third/fourth/fifth opinions would help. I tried to postpone asking for eyes at portals because I hoped the user could be dealt with by me alone. I now doubt that. If you have time, please keep an eye on his edits. Maybe I am all wrong and his edits bring light to WP. Nevertheless, more eyes I needed to make sure of it. Thanks! --Irpen 08:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Your question about names (why yes and why not) is somewhat answered at Wikipedia_talk:Eastern_European_Wikipedians'_notice_board. If you have no time to read the whole discussion, please check the end of it. --Irpen 10:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I am glad you agree. If you are on WP and have time/desire to stay involved (for the sake of WP not for me) please keep an eye on this user's contributions. Actually, as the result, some useful info was added to some articles, but mostly by others (which doesn't matter overall). Most of what he was doing was destructive and very aggravating. The mess with Russkaya Pravda, Ruska Pravda, Severians, etc. is just a small part. The real mess is ua-L and Ukrainization. And can you beleive that I used to be accused in WP in Ukrainization of the articles? I wonder what would that guy say now about AndriyK. I hoped that editors of ua-wiki would finally come here but not like this :(. --Irpen 13:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I did try to edit and explain at talk both Lviv and Ukrainian language. We'll see what reaction will follow. Cheers, --Irpen 02:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

As you can see, opposing strongly opinionated editors, may get costly but I do appreciate your participation in the dialog. Please let me know if you think I went over board. Personally, I tried all I could to act with restraint. It is up to the others to judge how good I am at it. Thanks again for your attention to Ukrainian topics. If only Ukrainian topics could get half as much attention from good editors as Russian topics are getting... Cheers, --Irpen 04:18, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Sergei Bulgakov

Hi, refering to your work on this article. I realise that you have probably added the foreign language stuff to work on it and translate. But, it seems to me that it is copyrighted material from a different website. Even if you translate it and then remove it, since your original post will remain in the edit history, we will still have a copyright problem. Please consider working on an external editor (wordprocessor or notepad) and then only submitting material that is in English and not copyrighted. Thanks. --Doc (?) 12:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

• The staff I based the article on is the article on Sergei Bulgakov in Russian Misplaced Pages (ru:Булгаков, Сергей Николаевич), you could realized that it had Wiki markup. Obviously if GPDL. abakharev 12:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

• • It would still be better if you didn't post the material until after you have translated it. Alternatively, create a temporary article for working on e.g. Sergei Bulgakov/temp - working in the main article space is not desirable. --Doc (?) 12:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Careful with the speedies

You nominated Armenak Petrosian for speedy deletion on the grounds of non-notability; a bit of research quickly indicates that he's a professional soccer player in Iran. No harm done; be a bit more careful next time, okay? Thanks. DS 13:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Salahov

Hello Alex,

Could you please help me with the article about Salahov. I think there are too many redirects, and in my opinion we should only keep the name Tahir Salahov according to Azeri spelling and redirect from Tair Salakhov according to Russian spelling. Any other spellings should be deleted, including the one with his father’s name in the middle. I’m new to wikipedia, and sometimes have difficulties with making things work. Thank you for your kind assistance. Grandmaster 12:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

• Once an article is created in Misplaced Pages, you have to have administrative rights to delete it. Neither me nor you have such rights, thus, we have to go through voting on AfD page - that is reasonably cumbersome and lengthy. Thus, I would not recommend to delete an entry (unless it is somehow offensive, harmful, etc.), just make it a redirect to an article with the right name. See Help:Redirect. Usually redirect does not harm - they a take negligeble amount memory, but simplify search. Even the redirects with an orphographic errors might be helpfull, if you made such an error been our expert on Salakhov, then quite possible that an American schoolboy or whoever would look up the wikipedia would make the same mistake - so the more redirects the merrier.

• Thus, the strategy would be decide the right name for the main article. Move the article there by pressing the move button on the top and entering the right name. It would create a redirect on the place of the right name. Check that all the other redirects points to the main article, so that there will be no double redirects, if necessary, edit the redirects. That's all.

• Last few words, for the Russian-related articles we decided to avoid using patronimics in the titles of the main articles - they look foreign for the English-speakers, to long to type, introduce additional errors (what is right: Ivanovich, Ivanovitch or Iwanowitch?), etc. So we decided to use them only to distinguish among equally notable people - Aleksey Konstantinovich Tolstoy vs. Aleksey Nikolaevich Tolstoy, etc. It is in theory, but in reality many people are still using patronimics in the titles. I am not sure if it is relevant to the Azerbajani form of patronimics with ogly/kyzy. abakharev 13:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

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George W. Bush

Hey, thanks for your help with the vandal hitting George W. Bush. You caught some edits that the last two people hadn't. Keep up the great work!!! >: Roby Wayne 04:52, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Svyaschennaya Voyna

Thanks for letting me know about this before I took the article too far. But, I wish to ask can I add a sound recoding? Zach (Sound Off) 09:04, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Прокурор / Prosecutor

Hi, I am not that familiar with the Russian legal system, and only know that Genprokuror is not part of the executive power. Is this correct? Can you direct me to a site where I can learn more. -- Goldie (tell me) 06:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Arseny Tarkovsky

Hi Alex-I removed some material from Arseny Tarkovsky because I couldn't understand it. You put it back, but I still don't really know what it means:

he worked for the newspaper "Gudok" managing the section of the Rhymed Satire (Поэтического Фельетона). In 1925-1929 he studied at Higher State Courses for Writers (Высшие государственные литературные курсы).

I'm not familiar with "Rhymed Satire" - maybe you can find a better English translation of this concept? If not (maybe it doesn't really exist in English journalism), then you can give a brief description of what it is. Just saying "Rhymed Satire" with no explanation is confusing. And about his studies, can you clarify as to exactly what that means? I assume that it refers to studies at a state university- but that's not clear. I know all 4 of those Russian words, but I still don't know what exactly that refers to, and it makes this sentence confusing rather than informative. Thanks-- Staecker 11:24, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Edits look great- thanks for the clarification. --Staecker 21:05, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Help, please

Hi Alex, if you have time, could you check List of Russians (Authors) for alphabet and duplicates. Cheers, Vald. Vald 23:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

St. Volodymyr's

See Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Repeated_wholesale_removal_of_info_from_St._Volodymyr.27s_Cathedral. Feel free to comment. --Irpen 01:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Good job on David Buliuk

I was wondering if you could help me do the same with the other Ukrainian painters. Also, was David Buliuk a jew? (the name David?? just a given name?)

• I will try to help, if I would have spare time. I do not know for sure, but strongly doubt that Burliuk was a Jew. His father was David Fyodorvich, his brothers were Vladimir (or Wladimir) and Nikolay (Mikolay). A Jew of that time could have name David, but not Fyodor, Vladimir or Nikolay, they are New Testament names of Greek, Latin and Slavic origin. His father was an agronom, Jews of that time usually hated agricultural jobs, and the Government usualy forbade Jews the rural living (it is not absolute, the father of Trotsky was a farmer, but it was a rare case). He lived outside the Pale (in Kazan and Saint Petersburg) but there are no evidences of difficulties in obtaining the permit to do so, as in the bios of e.g. Chagall and Bakst. Thus, I think Burliuk was a Ukainian Ukrainian not a Ukrainian Jew. abakharev 08:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Victor Ivanovitsch Motschulsky

Very many thanks Alex. More Russians on the way. Will you help with those too? Best wishes from rainy Ireland.Notafly 08:47, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Levenshtein

Thanks for the help! :-)

Vanbdalism from User:130.56.36.2

I see you've spotted the vandalism of User:130.56.36.2 and given him a warning. I was on my way to doing this when I noticed your warning. I'll keep an eye on him too. -- Cnwb 05:34, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Soviet Union

Hi, thanks for joining WPSU :) Please feel free to contribute to the main project page any ideas you have. - FrancisTyers 03:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Moral Support

Alex, many thanks for moral support, especially as I am a recently new wikipedian. Special thanks for the recent help with the Silver Age of Russian Poetry article. Many thaks for your kind words about my amatuer translations of Semyon Gudzenko. Vald 10:22, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Re:Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_adminship/Halibutt

While I admit some recent Halibutts action regarding recreation of pages (template support) are questionable, and right so, what do you mean by him harassing other users? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC)