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The result of the debate was delete both. —Cleared as filed. 15:19, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Joseph Vargo and Nox Arcana

Self promotion (see the talk pages). Was listed as a copyvio of and , but I have doubts about this person's notability, so am holding off on requesting confirmation of permission until I know we want this. —Cryptic (talk) 14:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

• Move to Monolith Graphics and re-write. It appears that the company might have some claim to notability, and his only claim is that he runs it. —Cleared as filed. 14:39, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
• (Nox Arcana added after Cleared as filed's comment. —Cryptic (talk) 14:41, 13 November 2005 (UTC))
• Delete both. Joseph Vargo has what appears to be a one-man business on the web, and Nox Arcana is an online store that has released a grand total of four CDs, all with Joseph Vargo as one of the performers. - Dalbury (talk) 00:43, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Nox Arcana is a BAND (musical group) NOT a store. Joseph Vargo is an internationally recognized fantasy artist, who also happens to write books and compose music. Prints of his work have sold in the millions worldwide. He was also the producer of two albums for another band, Midnight Syndicate. Unsigned edit by 70.187.67.246 (talk · contribs)

see other examples of what you call self promotion: http://en.wikipedia.org/Frank_Frazetta Unsigned edit by 70.187.67.246 (talk · contribs)

• Comment. When Joseph Vargo is as well known as Frank Frazetta, he can have a page in Misplaced Pages. There are guidelines for determining whether a person should have a biographical article in Misplaced Pages: Misplaced Pages:Criteria for inclusion of biographies, and whether musicians or bands should have an article: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines. Unless you can cite verifiable sources that Joseph Vargo and/or Nox Arcana meet the quidelines, the articles will be deleted. - Dalbury ] 11:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
• delete NN, vanity/self-promotion Pete.Hurd 19:58, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Does the following not suffice? According to the rules as stated on Wiki (see below)... as for unsigned entry, I have given my email. I don't know what else to provide. As to age, I don't believe that is a factor. Frazetta is still alive and selling prints.

Notable actors and television personalities who have appeared in well-known films or television productions. Notability can be determined by:

• Multiple features in popular culture publications such as Vogue, GQ, Elle, FHM or national newspapers.
• A large fan base, fan listing or "cult" following
• An independent biography
• Name recognition
• Commercial endorsements

• Published authors, editors, and photographers who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more
• Recording musicians who have sold more than 5,000 albums, CDs, or similar recordings (see WikiProject Music's Notability and Music Guidelines)
• Painters, sculptors, architects, engineers, and other professionals whose work is recognized as exceptional and likely to become a part of the enduring historical record of that field
• Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events

• INDEPENDENT BIO

Vargo's bio written by Christine Filipak (manager) and Joseph Iorillo (Vargo's official biographer for his recently released art book).

• MUSIC NOX ARCANA:

Nox Arcana has sold 15,000 cds to date (in less than 2 years). Joseph Vargo's previous albums produced and directed for Midnight Syndicate have sold over 100,000 cds since 1998.

• IN PRINT:

"Tales From the Dark Tower" (15,000 copies sold) "Born of the Night: The Artwork of Joseph Vargo" (5,000 copies) "The Gothic Tarot" (17,000 copies) named among top-10 selling game for Diamond Comics, Sept 2005. Spectrum III (25,000), Dark Realms (15,000), Rue Morgue (55,000), Carpe Noctem (10,000), Bite Me (UK???), and Dark Visions (approx 12,000), Cleveland Plain Dealer (approx 500,000), Scene Magazine (130,000).

• BROADCAST & TV PERFORMANCES OF ART/MUSIC:

1999-present: Universal Studios, "Born of the Night" official music for Halloween Nights. 1999: 20th Century Fox, set artwork, Pretender TV series, episode "Angel's Flight") 2002: The Discovery Channel, artwork featured in "Alien Abduction: The Mystery Unraveled" 2005: NBC/Unversal and A&E , artwork featured throughout "The Secret Lives of Vampires"

• GOOGLE (do a search for Joseph Vargo)

• email for documentation: chris (at) monolithgraphics.com

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