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Editors must not use sweeping claims or generalisations, and all claims must be supported by referenced sources. Please address one point at a time.
- GoodDay, no one has suggested deleting the Republic of Ireland article. This proposal is not about the RoI Article it's about the Ireland article.
- I'll support this proposal only if the Island, Disambiguation & Country articles are not merged into it or deleted. Do I have an asurance on that? GoodDay (talk) 20:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- This is a proposal, not a bartering house. This proposal involves merging Ireland & Republic of Ireland, under the title Ireland. If you have a suggestion, make one in a new section titles “Suggestions” which I'll consider or propose a solution yourself with a modified version of this. See my comments to Fmph below for an expanded explaination. --Domer48'fenian' 07:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- MickMacNee, you suggested an “Ireland which would cover all conceivable Ireland/Irish topics, such as History, Geography, Politics, Culture etc etc etc. This would include the content from the RoI Article, that's a merger, but this is not your proposal. This is a compilation of a number of proposals by a number of Editors.
- BritishWatcher. Nothing to discuss.
- Rockpocket. All that can be said is provide a Diff for the discussion were there was a consensus that "Ireland is ambiguous." No one can seem to find it. Provide sources to support this opinion per WP:V. Without Diff's there is nothing to discuss.
--Domer48'fenian' 19:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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- Fmph have a look at the China Article. Notice how it covers subjects in general way in the article, but with each section linking to a more detailed article. That's the idea. Some sections would deal with the whole island for example such as History, Geography, Politics, Culture etc. --Domer48'fenian' 19:51, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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Domer, you said "All that can be said is provide a Diff for the discussion were there was a consensus that 'Ireland is ambiguous.'" Which Ireland/Ireland? Bastun 08:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Provide a Diff for the discussion were consensus was reached that "Ireland" is ambiguous. Both MASEM & myself can't find it. --Domer48'fenian' 08:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
What created the ambiguity was it the wrong naming of Ireland as ROI? BigDunc 11:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm attempting to locate the discussion to determine that see comment above. --Domer48'fenian' 11:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Dunc it was the government of southern Ireland declearing their country title to be that of the island that has made Ireland ambiguous. They are to blame and they probably added that the official description is "Republic of Ireland", knowing people would need something else to call them in certain cases to avoid confusion. BritishWatcher (talk) 15:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)