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WikiProject: Dungeons & Dragons

Hi! I’ve been working on a lot of ‘’Dungeons & Dragons’’ articles lately and saw that you were a member of WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons), and am inviting you to rejoin Misplaced Pages’s D&D group. I've been hard at work removing tags placed inappropriately on D&D articles, as well as modifying articles to remove tags that were placed legitimately. In addition, I have been compiling related articles together so that the articles are longer, making it easier to remove tags and to have short articles on lesser topics by just putting it into another appropriate article (links to such compiled articles can be found on my userpage). Check out the project here , and ask any questions that you may have here. Thank you for your time. Drilnoth (talk) 20:59, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Invitation-request to comment on ANI, Max v Floro & Floro v Max, for blocking

Hi, may I please request you to submit some comment on myand User:Maxschmelling's twin petitions-complaints on the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for blocking. Despite the long RFC, where Max lost, and was warned not to stalk me, since September 25, Max refused to stop stalking me and my edits. This is a sad day for Misplaced Pages. Cheers.

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Please ignore my comments - there is nothing to clarify Frances Lynn,author 18:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC) (I changed 'Fleet street paparazzo' to 'celebrity photographer' - then deleted that.

And thanks for the welcome back. Frances Lynn,author 18:56, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

AfC news

Dear AfC participant,

Msgj and Tnxman307 are organising the AfC challenge! It's a little competition to help improve some of the articles created through AfC and we are hoping that everyone will get involved. For level 1, you just need to bring a stub up to Start-class. Level 2 is improving a Start-class article to C-class. And so on. To get involved or for more information please see the competition page.
Those of you who haven't reviewed an article recently might not have noticed the new process that was implemented this year. Reviewing articles is now more enjoyable than ever :) You might like to give it a try. All articles waiting for review are in Category:Pending Afc requests. (Please read the updated instructions.)
Please consider adding {{AFC status}} to your userpage to keep track of the number of articles waiting for review. At the time of writing we are officially backlogged, so help is needed!
There is currently a proposal to bring the Images for upload process under the umbrella of WikiProject Articles for creation. The rationale is that both processes are designed to allow unregistered users to take part more fully in Misplaced Pages, and partipants in each process can probably help each other.

If you no longer wish to receive messages from WikiProject Articles for creation, please remove your name from this list. Thank you.

Happy New Year! In the near future, I would like to start creating an article on Austin de Lone, the musician - when I decide to start it, could I ask for help while I create it? Austin de Lone is very prolific! Cheers! Frances lynn (talk) 21:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Felidae Conservation Fund Edits and Decline

Regarding Felidae Conservation Fund's rejection:

Some of the material is scientific terminology from the science field and the Felidae website, but it is also supplemented with other information.

Furthermore, as I am the author of this and a lot of the website itself, it is really a copyright violation? If Felidae is writing the article, is it still a violation of copyright?, That is my question. I understand your concern, but this is not copied and pasted.

Also, things like the mission of an organization are not normally re-written.

Please let me know how to proceed from here.

Thanks. Ally.

Thanks

... for the very quick reversions of the vandalism to my user page. I really appreciate it! Cheers! Apparition /Mistakes 04:51, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Vivio Testarossa 2

Please do not make edits like this - if you have comments to make, make them in the discussion section. Thanks. — neuro 01:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

There's no need to focus attention there, if something is to be said, the best place is the discussion section. Thanks, — neuro 02:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:Mar Thoma Syrian Church Crest.png

Thanks for uploading File:Mar Thoma Syrian Church Crest.png. The image has been identified as not specifying the copyright status of the image, which is required by Misplaced Pages's policy on images. If you don't indicate the copyright status of the image on the image's description page, using an appropriate copyright tag, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided copyright information for them as well.

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your RfA

I just closed your RfA as unsuccessful. Consensus was not reached. I imagine if you address the concerns of the opposition (specifically that you interact more with the community, participate more in article building, and develop better understandings of policies) you will fair better next time.

I hope you continue to work hard on the Misplaced Pages project. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me on my talk page or via email. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 11:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

File:Kurdish Spring Festival Adana.jpg

I received permission to use that image on wikipedia from its creator (Mr. Osseman). I sent the email to Misplaced Pages, but I dont know why it got deleted. Would you please follow up on that. I'll send you the email in which the creator explicitly gave permission for that single image only (not all the content on the website).

May be his wording was not precise. In that case, it is possible for you to give me the appropriate text that is required.

I appreciate you help.

Regards. Heja Helweda (talk) 02:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

> > > --- On Tue, 3/31/09, dosseman@chello.nl <dosseman@chello.nl> wrote: > > > From: dosseman@chello.nl <dosseman@chello.nl> > Subject: Re: Seeking Permission for Misplaced Pages > To: "Hêja Herdewan" <heja_helweda@yahoo.com> > Cc: dosseman@chello.nl > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 11:44 AM > > > Dear Heja, > > I have had similar requests before and have always had an issue with the condition, that any use, including commercial, must be granted. I understand however that the Misplaced Pages cannot protect the people supplying pictures against any infringement of copyright. > > On the other hand, I would love to hand this fine picture (I enjoyed taking it) over to the WIkipedia. So I do grant you the right to use the picture "as found on my site". I will not provide a high resolution one, but you may use this one in the size you can copy it in from my site (use the "original" size, which is the size in which I uploaded it. If that suits you, be my guest. So here's what Misplaced Pages want me to write: > > "I hereby assert that I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of WORK . > > I agree to publish that work under the free license. I do not understand the tagging system, so I just state that I own the picture, took it myself, and claim copyright, but that I hand it over to Wiki-commons, knowing the conditions it states for GNU-material. The picture was taken after 1923 and has been on my site for about a year, to be viewed by anybody. > > I acknowledge that I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. > > I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. > > I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. > > 31-3-2009, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. > Dick Osseman" > Vriendelijke groet, kindest regards > > Dick Osseman > Hoogte Kadijk 63-4 > 1018 BE AMSTERDAM > The Netherlands > Tel. (031)0206279900 / 7724061 > Mob. (031)(0)653546527 > On job: (031)020-4087777 > Visit my Turkey website: http://www.pbase.com/dosseman > e-mail to house only: dosseman@chello.nl > e-mail to EATI / Jellinek (job): dosseman@jellinek.nl > >

Ice Hockey World Championships

Will you be interested in giving an Editor assistance in Ice Hockey World Championships article. Thank you Andreyx109 (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

???

what do you mean? It doesnt meet the what? what the heck does that mean? Mario & Luigi RPG 3 (talk) 23:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

In need of your mentorship

Hi,

I need help from an experienced Wikipedian, and I saw your name over at WP:ADOPT.

I need your advice concerning WP:WPOOK, which I've been coordinating. The set of pages the project concerns is listed at Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Projected outline, and has grown to about 500 articles in the encyclopedia.

The goals of the WikiProject are:

Increase awareness of readers of the existence of the outlines on Misplaced Pages
Complete the existing outlines
Create an outline for every subject that is exensive enough to benefit from having an outline (core subjects and major or extensive fields). There are thousands of these.
Recruit as many editors to work on these as possible (we need thousands of editors working on these)
Surpass portals in number by the end of the summer, and leave them in the dust by the end of the year
Get the major outline subject areas displayed on the Main Page (in place of or in addition to the portal links at the top of the page)
Increase the OOK to higher quality than Britannica's Outline of Knowledge (published in its Propaedia volume).

I was hoping you could comment on how to achieve the goals above.

Also I'm interested in every possible way of reaching readers and editors of Misplaced Pages. How can I get the most eyes and typing fingers on Misplaced Pages's outlines? Contacting editors directly without a reason relevant to them is spam, which I'd like to avoid. There are 75,000 regular editors on Misplaced Pages, and I want to contact all of them. So how do I do it? Directly or indirectly, I don't care which, piecemeal or all-at-once, all methods are fine with me. But I've got to find ways. I need your help.

I would also like to know how to find or attract editors to create new outlines. And I need advice on finding editors to help write the new outline article mentioned above (it needs to be fleshed out, completely referenced, and brought to featured article status).

Can you recommend anyone in particular who might be interested in sinking their teeth into a project like this? Or ways to reach groups of editors? Or ways to reach all editors? I welcome any and all advice you might have.

I look forward to your reply on my talk page.

The Transhumanist 03:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I just read your message about making of the outlines, and would like to try to assist with this project. I may not be able to edit regularly due to internet connectivity issues I am experiencing at home... however I am still able to edit from school and the library. Vivio Testarossa 21:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome!

I'm excited that you are interested.

Please sign up at WP:WPOOK.

By the way, what are your favorite subjects? :)

The Transhumanist 21:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline update - Good news and bad news - 06/08/2009

The big push continues.

And it seems to be working!

The good news is that there's growing support for outlines, and there are more editors than ever editing them!

The bad news is that the complainers are disproportionately represented on the project's various talk pages. While many editors work diligently on the front end, a handful of complainers are trying to tear down the project behind the scenes. Fortunately, barely enough supporters have been watching those pages that no consensus for moving or merging the outlines has succeeded. So far...

Big problem: ignorance of what outlines are for and their benefits

Most of the opposition seems to be unaware of the complete range of what outlines are used for. They just don't get it.

This is why it is important to complete the outline article draft. An article with a comprehensive treatment of outlines would be the perfect place to refer anybody unfamiliar with outlines to.

Opposers also don't seem to understand how outlines differ from some other page type that they prefer. Some think articles are good enough as an overview, others think portals are more in-depth, still others think categories or navigation boxes are the most efficient and useful way to organize and present topical information. Some have simply never seen an "Outline of" page before and think they are a new type of page (they've been around under other names since 2001).

If you run across anyone who doesn't understand the role of outlines on Misplaced Pages, Misplaced Pages:Why do we have outlines in addition to...? might help reduce their misconceptions or uncertainties about outlines.

On the bright side, you've got to see this...

To add the outlines and related support pages to your watchlist (takes less than 30 seconds), cut and paste them from Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist into your raw watchlist. For a way to improve the display of your watchlist - by namespace (very useful) - see Watchlist sorter, or use the "super fast upgrade" at WP:OTS.

Or go to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes (currently without the talk pages) and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu on the sidebar on the left side of your screen.

The big push

The big push started with about a thousand banners and notices being placed on article talk pages all over Misplaced Pages.

But it didn't stop there...

Welcome our new members...

The following Wikipedians have joined the OOK team.

Be sure to stop by their talk pages and introduce yourselves.

Tarheel95 - going after the Main Page.
Vivio Testarossa / Feinoha - here to help.
Burningview - made a splash at MfD with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia (see the talk page for the MfD link - lots of support there).

Enter the mentors!

I asked a bunch of mentors at WP:ADOPT for advice. Several of them answered on my talk page. Most of those who replied were happy to help, and posted some very good ideas. A couple even joined the project.

Here are their ideas, and what is being done about them. A few of the tasks still need volunteers:

Strdst grl: Create and place project banners - already Done
Strdst grl & The Earwig: put an animated ad for the project in WP:BANNER - Our graphics specialist Penubag is looking into it.
Strdst grl: Create a userbox for the project - assigned to Penubag.
Garden: Ask to have outlines added to next year's WikiCup competition - Done (proposal posted)
Tarheel95: Add a link to Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge to the Main Page - Tarheel95 is taking on the creation of the proposal
SriMesh: Create an outreach subpage to WPOOK - Done (invitation coming soon, see below)
SriMesh: (Create a newsletter archive subpage) - Done
SriMesh: Add a feed to AlexNewArtBot to gather links to new outlines and post them on a page. Then personally invite new creators to the project. - who wants to tackle the feed?
SriMesh: Assign someone to monitor the outlines via watchlist, and invite new outline editors to the project - any volunteers?
Related: Create an invitation - Penubag is working on it.
SriMesh: Create Template:Expand outline similar to Template:Expand list, which adds each outline it is posted on to Category:Incomplete outlines, where editors (who are browsing the categories) can find them and work on them - to be assigned
SriMesh: Add the above template to incomplete outlines - upcoming AWB task
The Earwig: "Tell your wikifriends about it" - I've told mine, have you told yours?
The Earwig: "Collaborate with other WikiProjects" - we've been doing this from the start (each outline is associated with at least one other WikiProject).
: move the projected outline to a subpage of WP:WPOOK - Done

Linking to outlines has begun

To the tops of about 30 subject articles, I placed a test batch of hatnotes leading to the corresponding outlines. The hatnotes look like this:

For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of X.(Hidden: <!- PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE because it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for Misplaced Pages's overall coverage of this subject. Thank you.-->

The rationale for the hatnotes is that each outline is a topical guide for its subject, and since tables of contents go at the front of a book, a link to each outline should be placed at the front of its subject.

Unfortunately, not all editors agree. Some of the hatnotes have already disappeared. :(

Some past discussions pertaining to the existence or location of outlines

Note that the "Lists of topics" are of two types, including outlines and indexes, so discussions to remove, move, or merge those are usually relevant to the OOK. Also, outlines are a type of list, so discussions that affect lists in general also pertain to outlines. We've got to be on our toes!

I've excluded links to live discussions, out of respect for WP:CANVASS.

Table of contents to OOK-related stuff

Here's a directory of outline support pages:

Keep up the great work!

The Transhumanist 03:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK advert banner under development, here's the beta...

Thank you to those who suggested WPOOK have an animated advert banner. Penubag got working on it right away. Here's what he's come up with so far:

Penubag needs feedback.

I've posted a few changes for him to make to it.

Please post additional comments and suggestions for him at User talk:Penubag#Chocolate banner.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 02:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline collaboration!

As you know, Penubag is working on a banner to advertise the Outline WikiProject. And he's almost done.

The banner prominently presents the "Outline of chocolate", which of course will become the most widely advertised outline as soon as the banner goes live. The first thing many editors will do after seeing the banner is look for that outline.

The problem is, we don't have one.

So that's our first outline collaboration!

I started a draft this morning.

It needs to be finished and moved to the article namespace before we can start using Penubag's banner ad!

Come join in on the fun. It's chocolate!

The Transhumanist 21:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Paying it forward

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		For your impressive work in helping to clear the massive backlog at WP:SCV MLauba (talk) 13:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK's advert banner is done!

Is it perfect? Can it be improved?

Penubag loves feedback. Please let him know if it can be further improved.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 22:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)