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Uptick rule

I am filing an official complaint with Wikimedia Foundation Inc. against RegentsPark for abusing his/her administrative privileges to promote his/her biased agenda. WiksterPolice (talk) 15:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


I've removed the section in question, but I expect that won't stand for long. I've asked for help from Wikiproject Finance. If that doesn't work, I guess there may be a need to escalate—don't ask me how. JohnnyB256 (talk) 20:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Heh, well you know I was reverted on the horrid volatility graphic by some new user shortly after eight minutes before I wrote the above words. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 20:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I particularly like the 'biased vandalism' phrase! Can vandalism be biased? Never knew the uptick rule could generate so much passion :-) Meanwhile, the nature of these accounts is not without interest. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 21:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
The rhetoric employed by that new account is very similar to what one sees in naked short selling at times, and it is interesting that aspects of the NSS controversy were transplanted into the uptick article.--JohnnyB256 (talk) 23:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Dear RegentsPark (or Regents Park Capital Management LLC ?), you have been repeatedly biased in vandalizing the actual FACTUAL data, real chart that visually illustrates the market behavior before the uptick rule elimination, during the pilot study, and after the uptick rule elimination.

Why don't you want people to see the chart and to make their own conclusions? The chart is real and unbiased in documenting the facts – what has actually accrued in the market.

Simply because you do not like the facts, please do not remove them. If you feel that subprime is responsible for high volatility, please provide the data linking subprime to volatility. The actual factual chart is not a research. It is the factual evidence. Everyone can draw their own conclusion after looking at the chart.

In addition, a number of papers has been published before and after the uptick rule elimination with statistically significant results conclusively proving that uptick rule dampens volatility. The subprime problem was well before July 2007, but the volatility has increased dramatically exactly after July 2007. Either you like it or not, but these are the indisputable facts.

For example, a study by Diether, Lee, and Werner (2005) found that the uptick rule is found to (1) narrow the spread, (2) thicken the ask depth, (3) cause a higher execution price, and (4) dampen volatility.

Kind Regards, WiksterPolice

Dear RegentsPark (or Regents Park Capital Management LLC ?), you are the ONLY one who continues vandalizing this article. Other people are making small edits to make the article more informative but you are simply removing large blocks of information because it does not fit with your agenda.

If you continue vandalism, I will be forced to take protective measures against you.

This is my last warning to you. Your ignorance will not be tolerated.

Kind Regards, WiksterPolice

Dear JohnnyB256, Yes, vandalism can be biased. This is what you are keep doing -- vandalizing (maliciously destroying public property) based on your prejudice and bias (irrational attitude of hostility directed against other than your own point of view). —Preceding unsigned comment added by WiksterPolice (talk • contribs) 14:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


(outdent) WiksterPolice: The Diether, Lee and Werner results are cited in the text. About the graph, it may be correct, that volatility may have increased since July 2007 may be an 'undisputed fact', but, what is neither an undisputed fact nor a hypothesis supported by reliable sources, is the conclusion that it represents: that the abolition of the uptick rule caused an increase in volatility (or the down trend in the Russell 3000). Not only is that unsupported by reliable sources, it boggles the mind that anyone could blame the recent economic crisis on the abolition of the uptick rule. My apologies for upsetting your view of the world but, unfortunately, wikipedia is not the place for advocating views that are unusual and unsupported. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 14:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


Re: RegentsPark, "boggles the mind that anyone could blame the recent economic crisis on the abolition of the uptick rule”.
This is your narrow minded and opinionated conclusion. I think the content that you have been so vigorously deleting did not suggest that. The content that you have removed is the evidence showing that the uptick rule elimination has increased volatility (increased fear-driven panic selloffs and bear raids). The elimination has exacerbated the problems and the chart clearly shows it. The crisis did not start in July 2007, the uptick rule was eliminated in July 2007 and the evidence is conclusive the volatility has increased in July 2007, and the chart clearly shows it. Why do you feel entitled to delete the evidence simply for the reasons because the evidence contradicts your opinion about the uptick rule? Wiki is not a dictatorship and censorship of information. WiksterPolice (talk) 17:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Please provide a reliable source that links the elimination of the uptick rule with increased market volatility and includes the graph as evidence and it'll be included. Also, note that the Historical volatility section explicitly links losses in 401k plans to the elimination of the rule (which is where my amazement at the linking of the economic crisis to the uptick rule elimination comes from). This is not a question about dictatorship or censorship but rather an issue relating to wikipedia's policies on verifiability, OR and sourcing. Also, do try to assume good faith. I've protected the article for 2 weeks and that should be ample time for providing sources and building consensus on the talk page. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 17:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


Reuters via USA Today raises issue of increased market volatility two weeks after the rule elimination in 2007, Rule change may be adding to volatility
Studies by Birinyi Associates (top and highly respected market research firm, often quoted by Bloomberg and WSJ) have traced the rise in volatility in U.S. stocks back to mid-July 2007, coinciding with the repeal of the uptick rule.
The Volatility Bubble -- Average Daily Change Now Above 4%
The Uptick Rule: Mr. Cox, Is It Really That Devilish?
(Bespoke Investment Group is affiliated with Birinyi Associates)
A number of highly experienced people have suggested the rule change is having a major impact on the stock market, many pros from the industry have raised similar concerns (to name a few):
1.“The rule changed eight weeks ago, and market volatility has increased substantially,” said Patrick Becker, president of Becker Capital Management Inc. of Portland, OR
2. “I don’t think anyone would disagree that removing the uptick rule is a benefit to short sellers — and they are mostly hedge funds,” said Peter Chepucavage, general counsel at Plexus Consulting Group LLC in Washington.
3. “The power of the short sellers — or you could call them hedge funds — has grown significantly in stature,” said Andy Brooks, head of equity trading at T. Rowe Price Group Inc. in Baltimore. “We’re in the thick of it, and I think the uptick rule is a major contributor to what’s happening in the stock market,” he added.
4. Karl Diether (same researcher that found uptick rule dampens volatility in his 2005 study), an assistant professor of finance at Ohio State University in Columbus, "the pilot tests (SEC Pilot Studies) were not done under a full range of market conditions that might have produced results similar to the current market volatility."
5. Etc. -- WiksterPolice (talk) 18:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) All this sounds reasonable to me. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the Historical volatility section (titled perhaps 'The uptick rule and volatility') with the material you've listed above. As long as it is clear that reliable sources indicate that elimination of the uptick rule may have resulted in increased volatility, I have no objection. The problem is with the graph (because it indicates a direct causal relationship) and with the association of the lifting of the uptick rule with the recent economic crisis.--RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 18:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

(I'm copying this material over to the article talk page so that others can see and comment on it.) --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 18:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your intervention on this article. patsw (talk) 22:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
No worries. Let me know if more unsourced stuff appears. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 13:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I have never edited an article where several studies were cited or informally referred to where the actual findings were the exact opposite the of the argument being made by the editor. patsw (talk) 14:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Happens all the time. People come here with fixed ideas and then find or interpret sources to match the idea. I'm just surprised that it's happening in this article! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 17:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

re: Johnny Depp

Thanks. Poor Johnny gets so picked on by the vandals sometimes! Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Is that all the longer before it's released? Undoubtedly then. You might keep an eye out for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold and Columbine High School massacre over the next few days. The 10th anniversary is April 20. I expect a lot of vandalism there, it's partly started. Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

thx for your message

Thanks for the congratulations on my RfA. I'm still a bit nervous around the links that say "block" and "delete," but I'll get there. --Orlady (talk) 03:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt you'll have problems. From what I've seen, you know what's what! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 13:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Capital of South India

Is this speedy-able (wasn't sure which category), or should I take it to AFD ? Note that the included source is being misrepresented (as expected). It was created by ===================

Talk here, who is also the creator of Hollywood of the east. Abecedare (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's definitely WP:OR! Let me take a look at the speedy criteria and see what fits. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 17:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
CSD R3 fits. I'll drop a message on the editor's talk page. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 17:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Good (and creative) call! Abecedare (talk) 17:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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Critique

Hi there! Would you like to offer a broad critique of History of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), which I've been ignoring lately. You can do so on the article talk page. A paragraph or two. Not the details, but the big picture. I'm hoping it will inspire me to get my ass in gear and attend to the article, add the footnotes etc. I mean I haven't even copyedited it in a long time. Shameful. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure. But if this doesn't pan out you might want to seek a peer review (try WP:PEER rather than the wikiproject India version) or even nominate it for GA status. Eyeballing it, I'm surprised it is still labeled 'Start' class. It seems destined for higher things. But, I'll take a look tomorrow. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 00:01, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Andyroda

Part of that was my fault: I issued erroneous vandalism warnings because I thought the user was simply improperly removing chunks of text, when in fact he was merely a new user revising his own additions without including edit summaries. Nevertheless, the linkspamming and COI problems remain. --Rrburke 19:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I saw that and blocked him for 3 hrs for the link spam. Hopefully, he'll figure out that that is a no-no. Of course, the COI problems remain and something needs to be done about that. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 19:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Ran update

Thanks for updating me on the "how-to". I'm such a neophyte at times. I've updated it to what it standard now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

No worries. Glad I could make myself useful! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 02:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

hi thanks for your bot like speedy reply.

hi. I am unsure if I you are correct .. I am alone as far as I know in this request. jayen may agree with me and there could be other people too but I am asking only on a comment about this . it is pointless waiting for a comment from cirt as he has already reverted all my edits on this topic. (Off2riorob (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC))

Mbhiii sock investigation

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Uptick rule much better

The article has really made great strides since I last looked in on it. Kudos to all responsible. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 23:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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Thanks for your kind consideration

Hey Regents. Thanks very much for contributing to the discussion on my candidacy for adminship and for your encouragement. I appreciate it. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Favor?

Hey RegentsPark, I was wondering if you could me an administrative favor: drop by Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Fixxers, and close the AfD? I'm withdrawing the nomination. If by chance another admin beats you to it, thanks anyway. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 15:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Haven't really closed an afd before so this was good practice! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 17:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thank you much! Drmies (talk) 17:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Toolbox

Thanks, I intend to work on it some more tonight. :) — neuro 17:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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Help?

Hi RegentsPark, I just posted Chocolate Bloom this morning. It was deleted by you. Could you please help me improve it so that it can remain as an entry. This is my first entry and I could really use some guidance. Thank you so much, Kezia7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kezia7 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

I appreciate the help, I wrote {{underconstruction]] at the top of the page. I will continue to work on "Chocolate Bloom" tonight. It's actually a paper I had to write for a class. Since I couldn't find much online about chocolate bloom, I thought it would be brilliant the summerize my learnings to post and help the next group of students who will be taking Water Relations in Chemistry. Thanks again for your help and advice! Kezia7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kezia7 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protection

Could you please semi-protect my userpage again? Sorry for disturbing you but I asked User:YellowMonkey to remove a few diffs and the semi-protection got automatically removed. I'm leaving for Bengaluru this night. So, I wont be logging in for quite sometime.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 13:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. Have a good trip! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 14:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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Wasn't me. :) –Juliancolton |  20:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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feeling like a vandalism warrior?

Hey RegentsPark, how you doin'? If you're feeling like it, and why wouldn't you, after all you're an administrator now and don't have to write content anymore, could you have a look at User talk:71.130.177.243? It appears to be a vandalism-only IP, and while their talk page is full of warnings you could compile another complete set from their history. Worse, they vandalized an article I just got a DYK badge for! Is there no shame??? Thanks for your time, and enjoy your weekend, Drmies (talk) 20:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Content? What's that? (I noticed some rfa rumblings a while ago that seem to have died down???) Will watch the IP - can't really indef ban an IP, can we. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 20:16, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, we can't? Sorry, I'm just a 'writer' here, haha. Thanks for your help. BTW, Arundhati Roy is nice and calm these days! Drmies (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm slow. RfA--some kind soul proposed that, a nice suggestion, but I'd make a terrible administrator since I don't know the ins and outs of copyright and all the boards you guys have to look on every day. Plus I probably have the wrong friends (not you!), and I'm really having a lot of fun writing articles. If I get up to 25 DYKs (which, with a little help from my friends, might happen soon) I'll think it over again. Are you still having fun? Drmies (talk) 06:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm really stuck for time these days. Pressures of work that I thought I would never have! All I can do is pop in a comment here, block a vandal there, not much else. Hopefully, things will change again soon. You'd make a good admin and, as the saying goes, you never know until you try! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 13:33, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Haha, I just saw you and I came in about the same time, with around the same kind of activity. Hey, good for you, rising up in the ranks. And MY user page has been vandalized a lot more, including naked vaginas! You're obviously doing something right. Keep it up admin, or, since you're NY City, 1-212 keep it on! Drmies (talk) 06:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Please check this guys contribs

Koolabhieb (talk · contribs).--GDibyendu (talk) 17:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a rabid East Bengal fan. I'll warn him and block him if he returns. Thanks for the heads up. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 20:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Just noticed that he had already received a last warning back in January. Anyway, I guess another one doesn't hurt. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 21:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Help

Could you please try to move the page A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010 Film) to A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010 film), Could you swap the titles?

Thanks!, I Seek To Help & Repair! (talk) 22:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

They both redirect to the same article. Is that a problem?--RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 23:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi, just wanted to say a quick thanks for the semi-protect on the Fawcett article. Abrazame (talk) 15:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

No worries. Thanks for watching out for BLP violations! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 15:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thought

Yeah, I thought the guy made a really thoughtful point. I figured he wouldn't mind my sharing it. Pretty clear from my user contributions what article I'm referring to, but I don't think I'm violating his privacy or anything. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 23:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

 Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, , TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 — 

Dinesh K

Did you try to email him? Did you get a reply? YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) 06:30, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I did email him. But no reply. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 14:20, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Shameless thankspam

FlyingToaster Barnstar

Hello RegentsPark! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. FlyingToaster

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Hindutash unprotection request

Hi there! I've just received an unprotection request for Hindutash (at least I think that's what it is). Could you have a look at it again, as it's been a month or so at least. If you want me to review it, I'm happy to, but I thought I'd ask you first. --GedUK  17:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

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My RfA

Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record.
I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

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My RfA

Hi, I just wanted to point out that I had clarified my position (mainly to address the difference between static and dynamic IP addresses) on Question 4 of my RfA about one minute before you left your !vote, which directly addressed that question in particular. I wanted to ensure that either you were commenting on the the updated version, or your position hadn't changed with the updated version. I don't feel the tone or the message changed with the update, however I felt that I should notify you none the less. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I supported based on the previous version. But, rather than the specifics of blocking, my support was based on your healthy (IMO!) attitude toward IP editors. The expanded answer only reinforces that. So no worries from here and thanks for the heads up! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 16:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Pardon me for butting in (just came here from checking Narmada Dam Project--thanks for cleaning up there, RP)--I don't know, K-stick, if I meant to throw you a fast ball right over center plate; I was honestly interested in the answer, and my sentiments there concur largely with yours and those of RegentsPark. Ha, I'm probably much stricter, but I'm not running for office! Oh, RP, I have a new pet project, another mess: check out Taslima Nasrin. Drmies (talk) 15:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey RP, thanks for checking in on Nasrin's article. As you can see, I've had my hands full. And I'm getting RSI from this other (silly) article that I'm "protecting," Dimitris Melissanidis. Now, why would I spend so much time and energy on an f--ing billionaire's article?? Do I have nothing better to do? Hey, thanks again. Later, Drmies (talk) 03:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

No need to start a new section (wast of non-paper) but I would like to thank you for coming out and participating in my Request for Adminship, which closed unsuccessfully at (48/8/6) based on my withdrawal. I withdrew because in my opinion I need to focus on problems with my content contributions before I can proceed with expanding my responsibilities. Overall I feel that the RfA has improved me as an editor and in turn some articles which in my eyes is successful. Thank you again for your support. Cheers and happy editing.--kelapstick (talk) 18:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Unblock against consensus?

Hi RP, please don't unblock against the consensus of the editors at ANI. A new consensus to unblock needs to be formed to unban when the indef is implemented due to a community discussion. I strongly object to an unblock at this time due to the attacks specifically directed at another user. At the very least, an unblock right now says that it's OK -it's not. Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

(See my response on ANI.) I'm still wading through the miles of stuff. It seems to me that your initial block was ok (though a tad long) but the indefinite block was more because of the RfA vote and, as we've seen on repeated occasions, there is no consensus to block/ban on that vote alone. Still, there's no sense in compounding one hasty act with another, so ... --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 22:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Please see ...

... my post on Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Proposed_decision#Users_willing_to_act_as_advisers. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Responded. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 17:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hi RegentsPark, I am trying to clean up the Sathya Sai Baba article - http://en.wikipedia.org/Sathya_Sai_Baba. I succeeded in removing some of the unreliable sources by appealing in the Misplaced Pages Reliable Source Notice Board.


Right in the introduction there is a mention about the Consular Sheet warning about travelling to Andhra Pradesh and Sathya Sai Baba. I did a little research to see if its true. This is what I found. Yes - In 2006 there was warning in the official Consular Sheet under the Crime section. Here's the link to the 2006 Consular Sheet - You will see the warning about a local religious leader in the Crime Section just before "INFORMATION FOR VICTIMS OF CRIME". - http://en.wikisource.org/Consular_Information_Sheet_-_India. But since July 2007 all indirect reference to Sathya Sai Baba and the warning advisory for travelling to Andhra Pradesh has been removed from the Consular Sheet .


I Checked 2009 Official Consular Sheet published by U.S Department of State in February 2009 there is no warning about travelling to Andhra Pradesh nor any warning about a local religious leader - indirectly referencing to Sathya Sai Baba. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1139.html#crime. But the article still mentions about this warning right in the introduction. This wrong statement has to be corrected in the article.


I created a discussion in WP:RS -http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Question:Can_an_articles_be_updated_as_per_the_new_2009_Consular_Travel_Warning_For_India.3F. But there was only one response from User:Peregrine Fisher.


I am hoping that if more wikipedians from outside the article contribute to this discussion it will be really helpful in making a decision to correct the article. You were one of the outside editors who contributed in the earlier discussions in the Sathya Sai Baba talk page. You very well know the WP:BLP issues in the article. I think the first step to improving this article is getting rid of unreliable sources and wrong information. I would greatly appreciate if you would contribute your thoughts to the above discussion in the Misplaced Pages Reliable Source Noticeboard. Radiantenergy (talk) 23:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

See my response on the RS noticeboard where I suggest removing reference to the consular sheet. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 15:27, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your quick response. I will start discussion in the Sathya Sai Baba talk page about removing the Consular Sheet information and see how it goes. Thanks Radiantenergy (talk) 18:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Since it seems to be a clear violation of BLP, I suggest removing it first and then starting a discussion! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 19:56, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Delhi montage

Thanks for the reminder. I won't revert unless consensus is achieved. However, this edit is not a revert. --Nosedown (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Trust me, it is in spirit and will be considered one! Regardless, best to discuss it on the talk page. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 20:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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User talk:DougsTech

Preliminary discussion at AN/I leaned towards blank & protect; Gwen Gale did so. Why on earth are we giving a community-banned user a soapbox? Much less one filled with lies? //roux   23:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

DougsTech

Hi, only to let you know, had I known you'd declined the protection request on User:DougsTech's user talk, I wouldn't have protected it, I'd only seen the ANI thread. Afterwards, I didn't bring this up there because I didn't want to stir things up even more, glad to see it all seems to have settled down and has been archived on the sub-page. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 13:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I figured that was the case (when I realized that I was getting unnecessarily riled up!). --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 13:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Page Protection

Farrah Fawcett seems to have calmed down. How do you feel about trying to remove the protection on it and see how it goes? (I'm happy to do it but soliciting your opinion.)  Frank  |  talk  17:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Some days, it just doesn't pay to get out of bed.  Frank  |  talk  21:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:Taj Mahal

In case it was not obvious: my reason for revert was to remove the POV pushing and changes to quotes by User:HFret and the edit summary referred to his edits. I have no opinion or knowledge as to whether Taj Mahal was influenced by Ottoman architecture ... although "influenced" is such a vague word that someone somewhere is sure to have claimed that! :) Abecedare (talk) 18:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

It's ok. I was just having some fun! (But seriously, Timurid and Persian styles influenced both Ottoman as well as Mughal architecture since the Mughals and the Ottomans came from the same region. With its Chattris and other Indian, particularly Rajput, art features, Mughal architecture is uniquely Indian.)--RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 18:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I had to google Timurid (although I should have-could have guessed it) ... so when I say I have no opinion or knowledge I am not being facetious. But that's the fun of editing here - one is constantly filling one's brain with more "useless" information. ← that is my attempt at humour Abecedare (talk) 18:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I laughed myself sick :-) My guess is that - somewhere along the way - Indian got changed to Ottoman, perhaps by one of the many editors here who would like to wave a wand over the 800 odd years of Islamic dominance over Northern India. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 18:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


British India debate

Thanks for the heads up, but the page in question' direct action day' includes a lot of edits that were done at the same time as the 'british india' edit, all of which I have discussed in detail so I have nothing against any one reverting British india to 'India', however it's not fair to revert everything ( there's lots of edits), so I have reverted it back,, to save further issues I am going remove 'british India' from that article. Khokhar (talk) 21:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

How are..

... you doing my friend...? -- Tinu Cherian - 13:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Surviving..barely...! --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 13:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Continued vandalism, spamming

Hey RP, I came to ask for your time and your big stick. Have a look at User talk:92.48.54.122, and their contributions. Then, if you don't mind, look at the article histories of, for instance, Humayun Ahmed, Muhammed Zafar Iqbal, and Taslima Nasrin. What we have is a series of IPs constantly reinserting links to this spammy site, and doing so, often, for every single title in the article subject's bibliography. Oh, the link goes to a site that mirrors (old) Misplaced Pages content, it seems to me. This one did it twice three times now, and that, in my opinion, is enough ground for something more serious than a warning. For a week or two now I've been chasing these IPs around on those three pages (and I think there's one or two more), and it's getting irritating. I have no doubt that they have plenty of other IPs to do the same thing with, but I think it's time to do more than warn. (I've never asked for page protection and am not really inclined to do so now, but maybe you think otherwise.) Please see what you think. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree that this requires some sort of action above a warning. But what, I don't know. There appear to be three IP ranges, two from Riyadh and one from Dubai that are involved but could be the same person since the service provider has the same name. I could protect the articles but, presumably, there are many potential articles. All I can think of is to take this to someone like User:YellowMonkey. Do you want to do that?--RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 16:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC) (Addendum: I think there's a list of spam sites somewhere that automatically removed. Perhaps that's the way to go. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 16:06, 4 June 2009 (UTC))

Adding deshiboi here may do the trick. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 16:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

It's on WP:BLACKLIST now, which completely prohibits adding it (cf. auto-reverting after-the-fact). DMacks (talk) 08:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Hey thanks RP. I've left a note for YellowMonkey. What do you think of Taslima Nasrin now? It's still far from perfect, and it'll not be stable for a while, but it's improved, I think. Keep up the good work, Drmies (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit Summaries

Do not shamelessly act at the behest of user:Fowler&fowler and be his accomplice. And do not make misrepresentations like I am allegedly using “misleading edit summaries” . There is nothing misleading in the edit summary. The edit summary is pertaining to my previous NPOV edit at 12.53 where in I removed the item with in the brackets, and not to the pernicious POV version of user:Fowler&fowler at 13.15 . That edit itself is where I added more details to the earlier NPOV edit of user:John Hill including providing references and corroborations. By the way, In fact there is hardly anything else! I did not even either explicitly or implicitly state that the Sanju Pass is in Kashmir,though I could have in no time stated that Sanju Pass is in northern Kashmir, respecting the spirit of the article created by user:John Hill who had abstained from stating that the pass is in a particular country.Both of you are obviously jealous and envious of my contributions to both the Hindutash and Sanju Pass articles! It was user:Fowler&fowler who rushed to state that the pass was allegedly in so-called Xinjiang, the moment I made changes to the article and he had no use of the article till then. I had suggested to user:Fowler&fowler that the Sanju Pass article example could be followed in the article on Hindutash as a way to arrive at a consensus. I had also suggested the same to you . But both of you have evaded the suggestion. Obviously, user:John Hill seems to agree with my idea. I am sorry that I have to even reply to such stupid allegations, when I do not even get a precise reply from either of you in my entire correspondence with both of you! Hindutashravi (talk) 11:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. But, reverting another editor's edits with the summary added quotation marks is misleading, whether by accident or by design. An edit summary should reflect the main intent of the editor. About your Hindutash edits, you are welcome to add a couple of lines in the main body of the article that includes your references. However, I am completely at a loss as to how to explain to you that a physical location that is indisputably in one country can in no way be said to belong to another country. Not on wikipedia anyway. This is an encyclopedia and we deal with facts, not nationalistic dreams. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 13:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Something12356789#June_2009

well er I am a productive user I am sorry I just would like a clarification of the rules here as I have NO history of vandalism. I am just curious as to why one incident would mean a permanent block, Sincerely, --Something12356789 (talk) 23:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, one does usually prefer to assume good faith in editors and not give a drastic warning of the sort I gave you. However, I don't see how the good faith assumption can possibly come into play with your edit to Asian people. Racism is not something that should be tolerated on wikipedia. But you weren't blocked, not even 'definitely'. And I don't recall issuing you an indef block warning. So, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Did you expect a free pass for your comments? --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 00:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

PERSON OR BOT

I'd like your explanation as to why the Normandy Landing edits are considered "vandalism", given that you didn't bother to discuss the changes on the talk page.139.48.25.60 (talk) 18:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you suggesting that replacing text with 'Hi' and 'Hi Hi' is somehow 'not vandalism'? Interesting idea. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 18:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Explain how "edits" are now "vandalism".139.48.25.60 (talk) 18:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, you are replacing a section with "Hi. hihi." What is that other than vandalism? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
ARGH. Didn't see that. Trying to put the sectors back. Some constructive assistance would be nice, rather than threats.139.48.25.60 (talk) 18:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
WAIT - there is no HI HI HI on the page itself - it shows up in the "changes" which is weird, but not on the page - it is some kind of glitch. Look at the finished page.139.48.25.60 (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.48.25.60 (talk)

Reinstate semi?

Beth Stern's semiprotection that you added has expired, and nothing has changed - it is a playground for vandals. Can we reinstate the semi? Thanks Tvoz/talk 06:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. Six months this time. Thanks for monitoring the article. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 10:41, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Sure thing. Thanks for the 6 months. Tvoz/talk 02:52, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject India Newsletter, Volume IV, Issue 1 – June 2009

Project news
Congratulations to the West Bengal workgroup for having their flagship article featured on the Main Page! The Indian states workgroup is also involved in maintaining articles about India's states and union territories. »

WikiProject Indian roads was recently started as a new workgroup, to standardize and improve articles related to Indian roads, mainly the National and State Highways. After all, India has the second largest road network in the world.

Iravan, the son of Arjuna, is now our 85 good article. How do we know this? Since last year, more processes have been automated, increasing productivity. Article alerts update the project with what's happening to India-related articles, from copyright violations to featured article candidates.

To do…
During the last few weeks, peer reviews for the recent general election and 2003 Afro-Asian Games (held in Hyderabad) were opened and are waiting for more comments, as are several articles at the peer review department. Sikkim has been nominated for FAR, and Hastings Ismay, 1st Baron Ismay has been nominated for FAC. »

Currently, 11,087 Indian articles need images. Please improve these pages, especially if you enjoy photography! We look forward to more contributions from you. To get started, go to the noticeboard. »

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The last newsletter was written a year ago. In June 2008, Indian Premier League was "hot" on Misplaced Pages, but the article about this year's IPL has attracted 477 editors, or 53% more than the previous year! Even the number of articles in the scope of our project jumped by a whopping 18,500+ articles in an year. The 3.2-year-old India quiz continues to attract old and new Wikipedians, so join in the fun!

Wikipedians are organizing a meetup in Bangalore on July 4 or 5. If you are interested, head over to the page and add your name! Topics of discussion include Indian language editions of Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia India.

RegentsPark, one of the prominent members of our project, was promoted to adminship this year. If you'd like to know who are the most avid editors of Misplaced Pages by number of edits, refer to this list.

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More concerns on Sikkim?

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My plan

Hi RegentsPark,

Since you offered at my arbitration to advise me, albeit reluctantly, on my plan to offer to ArbCom, I am wonder if you would be willing to look it over and offer suggestions. You are listed as an adviser/mentor as I remember your extraordinary diplomacy and conflict resolution abilities in several situations. The current draft of my plan is User:Mattisse/Plan and the discussion is User talk:Mattisse/Plan.

I am very willing to recognize that some of my past behavior was wrong, and I have worked to reduce the chance of that behavior will reoccur in the future. I feel that it will not, but of course I am a human being. However, I have learned during this arbitration and modified by behavior accordingly.

I would be grateful for any feedback or suggestions you might offer. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 12:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Matisse. I'm honored that you think I can advise/mentor you (I'm not kidding!). I looked through the plan you've outlined and think that it is fairly comprehensive - if a bit complicated. I would have thought a much simpler plan - where you check in with an advisor/mentor every time you personally think things are going out of control - would be much better. However, I'm sure there are good reasons for the level of detail in the plan (and I bet you've had it up to here with working on the plan anyway!). I'll be happy to keep an eye open and butt in every now and then if things seem to be getting out of hand. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 15:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Frankly, I don't know what to do. My original plan was simple, but then it seemed necessary to become more detailed and tougher to satisfy my critics such as the suggestion that I avoid all articles by specific editors and get permission before editing GA, GAR, FA, FAR, DYK etc.. The first plan was authored by editors that thought I should not have a role in developing the plan. See User:Moni3/Mattisse stewards arbcom and User talk:Moni3/Mattisse stewards arbcom. (This plan was altered by Philcha from the original proposal.) If you read User talk:Mattisse/Plan, you can get an idea of the differing views. Also, Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Proposed decision contains the views of different editors. What is happening is that I am trying to satisfy everyone and I can't. Perhaps I can ofter an alternative, simple plan along the lines you propose. Personally, that was what I envisioned originally, and I would be way more comfortable with that. Further confusion arises from the lack of direction from ArbCom and the fact that they have not completed their voting yet on a proposed decision for me. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Well, I don't know the history behind all this so it's not really my place to comment but I do feel that 'rehab' (if I may use the term!) plans work better when control is in the hands of the person being rehabilitated. In your current plan you're always going to be looking over your shoulder and wondering if you're doing the right thing which is not exactly conducive to being a productive editor. Still, it does appear that a comprehensive plan is required from you (though, on reading the arbcom page, there seems to be no restriction on your offering alternative plans if you feel like doing that). It is not humanly possible to read the diffs and make sense of the 'evidence' on the evidence page but I agree with you that a simple plan along the lines of "Whenever I feel I'm getting into a tense situation, I'll ask my mentors/advisors to watch over my interactions and help pull me back from the brink if necessary," is not going to fly with some editors.
I'm also not sure how arbcom works. It seems to me that, while there is a vote on 'Matisse should submit a plan within 15 days' that vote is on a proposed decision. Is a proposed decision the same as a decision? The whole process seems rather vague to me. Another 'proposed decision' says that you will be conditionally banned if you fail to submit a satisfactory plan but doesn't really define satisfactory (perhaps that is somewhere else - the plethora of pages is quite confusing). Can't you talk directly to the arbitrators about what elements a satisfactory plan should contain? Honestly, now that I've looked at the arbcom pages, I think I probably won't make a good mentor/advisor because I find this whole arbitration thing overly formal and am puzzled as to why it is necessary in the first place. --RegentsPark (My narrowboat) 19:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing the situation so carefully. I too am confused by ArbCom and have basically been learning about it by going through this one. The 'propsed decision' page is the ArbCom voting page. The problem is that it takes a majority of six to pass a proposal, so none of them have passed so far. Agree that the plethora of pages is confusing, even to me after efforts to understand what is going on. My understanding is that I can email an arbitrator, such as NYBrad, who is apparently the Arb that drafted the proposals. But then I get caught up in what to say. Most of my mentors/advisers seem to feel little monitoring of my daily behavior is necessary, and they would prefer to be asked for advice on an ad hoc basis. Also, they prefer rehabilitation and education to punishment. However, this type of plan may not be stern enough to satisfy my harshest critics. But the bottom line is, if my behavior continues to be unsatisfactory, I can always be returned to ArbCom for further sanction. Also, any uninvolved admin can always block me as they would any editor they deem disruptive.
I am very glad to have you on my team! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 15:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Are you getting feedback from arbitrators on the plan as you prepare it? (I notice that a lot more than 15 days have gone by and, hopefully, you know that you're on the right track viz whatever arbcom wants from you.) --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 19:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Not a word from the arbitrators. Just their proposed decision which has not been passed yet. So I am at sea. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 20:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Very odd. I do not understand this system one bit. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 20:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Just a note

I keep meaning to mention that it hasn't escaped notice that you've created several articles from the Mulliner Samhita, surely among the great divinely inspired oral traditions :-) . Priyanath  01:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

True. Next in the Raconteur line - Oldest Member! --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 23:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Novels Newsletter - June 2009

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter
Issue 30 - June 2009

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Issue 30 - June 2009
Member news
  • Coordinators election. An election has been long overdue, and therefore one will begin shortly. If you wish to stand, please put your name in by June 28, when voting will start. Members are encouraged to vote for the candidate they wish to support by July 21 at the Coordinator Elections. The Ed17 has decided not to stand for re-election. His work as Assistant Coordinator, along with Kevinalewis, since the last elections in October is highly appreciated by all members of the project.
  • The Novels Project now has 128 active members.
  • 17 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only fill a position for a short time.
  • The His Dark Materials task force has been set up, and the role of coordinator has been undertaken by Pmlinediter.
Project news

- Contributors are Alan16, (who searched the archives).

Task force and related news
– Position of editor for the task force has been undertaken by Pmlinediter.
Peer review and assessment news
– the_ed17 (talk) and Alan16 (talk)
Member in Focus
  • Hi, I have been a member of this project for a few months now, and after finally gotten to grips with Misplaced Pages I have decided to take on the role of writing this newsletter (currently by myself, but any help would be appreciated) with some helpful tips from The Ed17. After undertaking this I realise why it was so difficult to keep it going. I will, however, persevere. From the members, I would encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, and take up roles at the Job Centre. The project has struggled recently, and I am hoping to try and revive it. If, with the publication of this newsletter, there are a couple of things that aren't quite up-to-date (like the Collaboration part), you can be certain I am working on it. I will be trying to get a newsletter out on around the 21st of every month. Finally, thanks for the help Ed. Regards, Alan16 (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Current debates
  • A Kenneth Oppel task force has been proposed. You can comment here. Oppel is a Canadian author who specialises in Young adult fiction.
Novel related news
  • American writer Michael Hemp wins the 2009 Next Generation Indie Book Award in the Action/Adventure category for his novel, The Nadjik Pheromone.
From the Outreach Department

This is my first attempt at the newsletter, and I hope it at least gets close to the previous high standards set by Kevinalewis and The Ed17. I will once again encourage you to vote in the Coordinator elections, as I hope it could be the springboard to revitalise the project. I'll keep working on the newsletter, partially because I like the stress, and partially because we need it to get members and would-be members interested. Hopefully the start of great things. Regards, Alan.

Collaboration of the Month
  • Because there has been little activity on our Collaboration page for a long time, I have made an executive decision, and chosen The Tin Drum as our Collaboration of the month.
    All members are asked to assist where they can.
    The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 July, 2009 so nominate and vote.
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This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan. It is a previous, uncompleted challenge.

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third opinion

Why did you take special ed. off the list? They are having a dispute. Never mind. I misinterpreted it. You are providing the third opinion. Harionlad (talk) 21:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Now that it's over (this round), I just wanted to thank you for providing a third opinion at Special education. User:Harionlad was finally blocked today, as the 34th known alias for Jessica Liao. Giving third opinions is often thankless work, but very helpful to the encyclopedia. Happy editing, WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Not surprising. That is, unfortunately, so often the case with a particularly insistent editor! --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 23:41, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Aksai Chin protection?

Aye, in addition to Sanju Pass, I'd like to propose protecting Aksai Chin as well. User:Keithonearth undid an anonymous edit that's identical to User:Hindutashravis. Cheers, --Rayshade (talk) 22:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. Also Hindutash. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 23:37, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting both Aksai Chin and Hindutash. It been a long tedious time trying to keep the articles sensible. --Keithonearth (talk) 04:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

You are requested to confirm!

Hi RegentsPark,

As we discussed previously, my plan is User:Mattisse/Plan formed with the input of others User talk:Mattisse/Plan, Arbitration Workshop and Proposed decision talk page. Previously, you said you were willing to be one of my mentors/advisers.

The ArbCom is in the process of rendering decision and have requested that my mentors/advisers confirm that they are aware of the plan and agree with their role in it. See Moving towards closure of the case. If you are still willing to serve as one of my mentors/advisers, and I fervently hope you are, I ask you to indicate your willingness by posting on the Proposed decision talk page.

I think this plan will work. I have learned a great deal from this arbitration and feel comfortable with my panel of mentors/advisers and trust their judgment.

Thank you so much. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 16:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Reaffirmed! --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 03:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Regent, a moment of your time?

I ran into some problems at John Russell (Florida politician), with an editor who flooded the article with trivial information and got themselves blocked for a 3RR violation. To cut a long story short, I ended up rollbacking a deprodding, since I suspect a sock puppet of a blocked user removed the prod (which was placed there by another editor). Now I wonder if I should have done that or not, if I have the right to re-prod in case of suspected sock puppetry. I don't mind removing the template if you think I should, and apologize if I did so wrongly. Also, I hope I filed the sock puppetry charge accurately, at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Russellfl5--do you mind checking? Thanks so much for your help! Drmies (talk) 00:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The sockpuppet report is, I think, fine. You could also always go directly to a checkuser in a case like this. I see the prod is now an afd but I don't see anything wrong in re-prodding if you suspect a sock. If the article is notable enough, someone else will always come along and remove the prod. --RegentsPark (sticks and stones) 03:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)