Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by HappyCamper (talk | contribs) at 04:15, 9 December 2005 (archival of my talk page). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Welcome to my fourth archive! The posts have been rearranged so that related topics are together. This was done to aid my memory of my activities on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to see the layout of my talk page before the rearrangement, simply click once on the "older version" link at the top left hand corner of this page. Take care! --HappyCamper 04:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3

WikiHelp, WikiThanks, WikiGoodness

RFAs

RfA thanks

GraemeL's RFA

Hi HappyCamper,

Hello back

Thanks for your congrats on my talk page regarding my RfA, and good to meet you :) Same here, let me know if you ever need a hand with anything. Catch you around, Ramallite 06:45, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Halibutt's RfA

Just a word of greetings

Why, Hello!

Hi! Haven't seen you in a while as well. I've been mostly sitting on IRC, and doing schoolwork :\ I hope to get a little more active this month :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:22, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Sure. There are quite a few IRC clients, however. IF you use Mozilla or Firefox you can try Chatzilla. You can also try mIRC, Xchat, and the IRC client that comes with Opera ( I use Chatzilla and opera IRC). The basics are pretty simple in that you have to add a new server/connection/ etc. (there are different names for this in different clients). For the server you want to type in 'irc://irc.freenode.net' and for the port, leave it as default. There is no password to sign in with for freenode. Then when you're connected you can type in '/join #wikipedia' (or any other channel -- usually they're indicated by a pound sign. Some others I know of are #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia. Also you can ask around). If you need any specific help with a certain client or with a setting feel free to ask me :) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 03:31, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

If you've never registered with nickserv, I think you might want to take a different name and then type '/msg nickserv register ' and then when you get on type '/msg nickserv identify '. This is a sort of like registering a username (in a loose sense). — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 14:24, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear HappyCamper. Thank you for welcoming me back. It is appreciated :-).--Wiglaf 18:05, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi, from EddieSegoura

Hi, I noticed You posted to My talk page. Tell Me a little more about Yourself  :) -- EddieSegoura 10:59 PM, November 28, 2005 (EST)

Awards and recognition

Chocolate fountain

Well that sure made me smile, thanks! -- Francs2000 02:23, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Spring flowers

Ah... happy tulips. Nice smell (not quite as lulling as the lotus blossoms though). Thanks, HappyCamper.

Btw. Are you down in Oz or Kiwiland to think it is spring? I could have sworn winter was setting in here at the top half of the world :-). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 07:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hey, thanks! I needed an apple or two; I was home sick today. However I'm enjoying my brand-new smokin'-fast broadband connection, and learning to use Firefox! Best wishes, Antandrus (talk) 03:19, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Thoughtful Wikipedians

Image:WebsterFalls Below Rainbow.jpg

Did it last weekend, here is one of the better shots I took from below. Have others of the George and some panorama's from Dundas Peak that I'll upload once I get some articles organized and/or they pop-up spontaneously. You likey, I likey! :"D - RoyBoy 00:45, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks

It brightens my day a little bit to know that I did something that touched somebody else's life. Thank you for the thank you. Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 13:11, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Fixing vandalism

New Block

Would you mind blocking User talk:80.89.82.11? He vandalized again after getting a final warning. Superm401 | Talk 21:02, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for checking on it. I hope you don't mind being the friendly admin I pester about such things. Eventually, I'm going to put my hat in, but I'm too busy at the moment. Superm401 | Talk 04:25, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi HappyCamper, thank you for reverting 65.78.24.224's edits to my user page and for blocking him! Mushroom 03:33, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again! My user page gets vandalized a lot these days... Mushroom 05:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for fixing the vandalism to my user pages. Much appreciated. -- Francs2000 13:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Anonymous users

thank you!

Thank you, thank you, yes I'm from UW. But more importantly I aim to be a Wikipedian when I graduate and have more time on my hands. 129.97.252.63 23:05, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

thank you kind stranger

hopefully the vandal got bored or something--85.195.123.22 02:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey, no problem :-) --HappyCamper 03:06, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanx!

Thanx for deleting my usrpage as per my request. I'm glad it didn't take too much trouble this time (Unlike last time). 68.39.174.238 07:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Haiku

There, check {{Wdefcon}} 68.39.174.238 02:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Other Wikipedians

Hey there

Hello and thank you for leaving me a message. :) By the way, you participate in Chemistry portal and projects right?, how do i join?.HappyApple 19:18, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

thanks

i live in nevada —preceding unsigned comment by Nevada (talk • contribs) 19:46, 16 November 2005

and thank you

for your kind note on my talk page. HGB 01:57, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Good edit on Iraq War

That spam you removed has to be one of the weirdest spam situations I've ever seen. Got a chuckle when I saw what the site was JG of Borg 03:48, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello!

Thanks for dropping by. I've been seeing your name a lot this session. I hope you're having a lovely evening. (Unless it's not evening where you are--in that case, feel free to edit this comment to demonstrate the correct time of day.) Joyous | Talk 02:18, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Merci pour ton accueil (thanks for your welcome)

Hi HappyCamper. Of course, I remember you. We have spoken together a few months ago. I note that you are very active on english Misplaced Pages. For my part, I'll try to improve or create some english articles related to France or french culture. And for the french wikipedia, I translate some featured articles like I did with Piccadilly Circus (the result in french is : fr:Piccadilly Circus). See you soon. PS : si tu préféres, on peux se parler en français puisque j'ai vu que tu avais un bon niveau de compréhension de ma langue. Kuxu 02:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Félicitations, je vois que tu parles encore très bien français. Mieux que moi anglais, ça c'est sûr. I don't know that you are a sysop here. I'd like to be sysop too (but in french), but not enough time to do it correctly. In the next futur, i'd like to improve the Eiffel Tower article, both in french and english. There so much things to say about it. I hesitate to write directly in the english wikipedia beacause I don't speak fluently, but I admit that I read Misplaced Pages in English daily. Misplaced Pages is growing so fast day after day and is becoming a very interesting source of information. By the way, for "talk page", in french we say "page de discussion". J'imagine que tu ne manques pas de travail ici, alors bon courage à toi et à bientôt. Kuxu 02:05, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Hi there

Yes, thanks. I already read it, and took your suggestion.  ;)  Denelson83  01:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

No, it's just foggy over here. Vancouver Island happens to be the warmest part of Canada.  Denelson83  02:08, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

left u a reply

i left u a reply, i guess u didnt add my talk page to ur watchlist, its at User Talk:Unforgettableid Unforgettableid 01:31, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

• sorry i take back what i just said :) Unforgettableid 01:31, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Actually this is my favourite food in the whole world but it doesn't matter as I can't taste anything at the moment anyway. Or get to sleep: it's nearly 2am and I'm still wide awake! -- Francs2000 01:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

re: Filename

Way ahead of you. Thanks! --FuriousFreddy 04:59, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Violinist

Thanks for leaving me a message. It's neat that you're a violinist, too. Have you seen http://www.violinist.com ?--ViolinGirl 22:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Ferris Wheel Article

Hey, thanks for the quick response. I put up that tag and then have to leave quickly, so i wasnt able to fix it when it looked wrong. The tag i was looking for was a tag that recommended deleting a section in the article. If you know a tag for that could you let me know? Thanks for the help.--Gephart 05:09, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

{{anon}}

i use the anon template sometimes, but i prefer welcome3. thx there, tips. Themindset 02:36, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

re: e-mail

Thanks, I read the E-mail. I actually did point out the situation to several administrators but none of them seemed as concerned as you or I was. :-/ Thanks for blocking him, though. ♥♥purplefeltangel♥♥ 20:51, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

MediaWiki

There's no special list of pages, other than Special:Allpages -> MediaWiki. Your offer is appreciated, but if you do want to help out keep in mind if you make one mistake, you'll screw the site over. Also make sure you don't delete the actual templates. And if you do want to help, go to the last page and start deleting from Z backwards. I'm up to half way through C, though I haven't been spending as much time as I could. Also I'm a bit nervous about taking help from anyone as if someone else messes up, it'll still be bad for me for accepting the help and starting the entire thing. So be cautious. Alternatively you can kill off the MediaWiki talk pages I've missed, there aren't too many of those. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

That's another reason to not join in, it's a one-man campaign by myself to remove the clutter, partly to make it easier to find what MediaWiki page you want when looking for something. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

It's horrendously tedious, but at least I'm making myself useful. I don't understand the concept of burnout from too much work, sorry, but I don't ;-) Redwolf24 (talk) 04:02, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Signature

Actually there are no nowiki tags missing from my signature. Signatures automatically have a ]] appended because it is expected that the contents of the signature is a link to the user's userpage. Many of us modify our signatures to add an additional link such as one to our talk page. In my case, I wanted to get an effect that looked like what you get when you use Template:User: Jdavidb (talk · contribs). However, I was still stuck with that ]] which looked awful, so I stuck in a ] 00:17, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Excuse me for intruding upon your discussion, but did you know you can check the Raw signatures box in your preferences to get rid of that extra ]]? —Ilmari Karonen :-) 00:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Yup :-) --> I'm gonna paste this over to his talk page. :-) --HappyCamper 00:56, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, guys! Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 17:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

All is well

Yes... Yep... all is well. Problem fixed, thanks for your persistence and your help. :-) --hydnjo talk 01:14, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

GFDL related

Skinnera

Sure; I'll try to help keep an eye on him. Looks like he hasn't done anything since his article was deleted, though. Jdavidb ] 17:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Recover text of an entry that was removed

I prepared an entry on Oct 30 that was removed by you. The entry was "University of Colorado Engineering Management Program." Is there any way that you could email the text of that entry? I'd like to use portions of the text for other purposes. Thanks for any help you can provide. Cheers - Wayne — Preceding unsigned comment added by WKirschling (talk • contribs) 15:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Musikfabrik's copyvios

Thank you! One less thing for me to worry about. :) Owen× ☎ 02:32, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Editing difficulties

Jihad

Unprotection

Many thanks for unprotecting this. Stay tuned on the edit wars, it's usually a pretty entertaining perpetual train wreck. BrandonYusufToropov 13:27, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Polarized as ever. If you think protecting both talk and article for 5 days would help, I'd be all for it, but I'm not sure it would make all that much difference on the sixth day. Worth a try, I suppose. BrandonYusufToropov 13:39, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Please stick around on that article. I know that it will get ugly soon and we really do need a HappyCamper there. :) --a.n.o.n.y.m 15:06, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Discussion is going nowhere. Please take a look. --a.n.o.n.y.m 16:00, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I know you unprotected, but

Same thing has started again on the Jihad article. The same editors came in immediately after you unprotected and changed the version with many major and POV edits like these (marked as minor here!). Please take another look. I agree with your idea that small changes should be made at a time and should be discussed, but a certain group of editors is not letting this happen. Please see edit history . --a.n.o.n.y.m 04:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Yuber breaking arbitration by anon-vandalising my user page, claiming I'm a sockpuppet of User:Enviroknot, etc

From User_talk:BrandonYusufToropov:

This isn't true, I have never had another Misplaced Pages account, this is the only one I've had - I hope my IP is not going to be shared with other non-administrator users and Al-Queda supporters such as Yuber, who is currently blocked from editing Syria (see his talk page) for one month from this date for continuing to remove properly sourced and relevant material (trying to constantly enforce Islamist POV on NPOV articles)...
--Chaosfeary 19:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

After doing some research, I also found the following article, Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Yuber, which contains many criticisms of Yuber's "vicious POV pushing", intentionally starting edit wars, removing sourced material he dislikes, claiming consensus when there is none, harassing users, sockpuppeting and so on.

User_talk:Enviroknot also mentions the following:

* Both Yuber and Guy Montag are each placed on Misplaced Pages:Probation for one year from the date of closing this case (9th of October, 2005). Should any sysop feel that it is necessary that either of them be banned from an article where they is engaged in edit warring, removal of sourced material, POV reorganizations of the article, or any other activity which the user considers disruptive they shall place a template {{Yuber banned}} or {{Guy Montag banned}} as appropriate at the top of the talk page of the article, and notify them on their talk page. The template shall include the ending date of the ban (one year from this decision) and a link to Misplaced Pages:Probation. The template may be removed by any editor, including them, at the end of the ban. If they edit an article they are banned from, you will be briefly blocked from editing Misplaced Pages, for up to a week for repeat offenses. * Yuber is instructed to use only this account, and no anonymous IPs. What editing constitutes Yuber's is up to any sysop to decide. If Yuber violates this, any sysop is authorised to ban them for up to a week. Yours, James F. (talk) 11:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

If User:83.31.171.2 is indeed User:Yuber editing under an anonymous proxy or his own IP address (as seems likely looking at the the vandalism on my user page by the IP and speed of which he edited the talk page) he would be violating this rule...

--Chaosfeary 20:18, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Please don't pay attention to Chaosfeary. He is just another sockpuppet of Enviroknot. Yuber 20:52, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Please, please, try and prove this ridiculous accusation, because it's a blatant lie and therefore impossible... I have been editing for quite a while as per my edit history, I am nothing to do with "Enviroknot", I had not even heard the name before you started flinging accusations. You seem a very paranoid individual, much as you and User:BrandonYusufToropov's conspiracy theories about Talk:Islam ("it's not that quite a lot of people don't agree with me, it's just one person! I'm right!" etc..) --Chaosfeary 21:12, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Chaosfeary

As I see you're dealing with this situation, it might help you to know that Jayjg has conducted a user check, and confirms that User:Chaosfeary is not banned User:Enviroknot. Cheers, SlimVirgin 12:31, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

User:BrandonYusufToropov continues to make personal attacks on me, violating WP:NPA, and continues to slander me on talk pages claiming that I am "enviroknot"... Perhaps you could explain that this is not true, I have already, but he doesn't seem to want to know. --Chaosfeary 11:54, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your message

Actually, if you take a look at what Jayjg actually posted, he is talking about IP addresses. I'm talking about individuals.

I point out for consideration that, pretty much the instant Chaosfeary was banned from editing Islamofascism (term), a new User:FluffyPinkKittensOfDoom materialized. (As in no edits before Chaosfeary's 3RR violation.) Please work your way through the diff sequence that begins and you will see that Fluffy apparently has a long-running hatred of me.

What it boils down to is whether or not one can recognize someone who is using distinctive (and, I might add, distinctively obscene) language and a specific M.O. to sabotage articles here. I believe one can, and that the fact that someone is capable of switching IP addresses doesn't change that.

Jayjg, whose judgment I trust, also pointed out that the edit histories were "suggestive," though why that assessment hasn't been as widely circulated is not clear to me. Anyway, for a taste of this renegade's cooking, look up User:Enviroknot BrandonYusufToropov 14:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Greek reconstructionism

Greek Recon

Hey - I replied to you over on my talk page, but can cut & paste it here if you prefer. Thanks! Cyberdenizen 08:20, 29 November 2005 (UTC)(talk)

Re: Greek Reconstructionism

Thank you for intervening. There are email headers in the archives of the talk page with uninvolved third parties legal names and IP's listed which I think should be removed. 65.182.172* is throwing around names of totally uninvolved parties whom he apparently has issues with elsewhere. I feel this is harassment, although I guess I'd have to contact the parties to see how they felt about it. Regardless, I feel that posting people's legal names indicate extreme paranoia and maliciousness - especially when the party will not even create a user name.

Did you see one of my requests for mediation? For context, I would like to direct you to this (section 3:35) and this (section 4:10).

I don't know where the best place to reply to you is - my talk page, here or at Greek Reconstructionism, but I figured you'd see this here. I feel the entry is terrible and needs to be reworked. Notwithstanding the facts, I'd appreciate any critiques just on technical and NPOV merits if you have the time. Should I contests portions of the entry point by point like Adelamae did in the talk section? 65.182.172* is totally unwilling to accept any changes to the entry...

Thank you for taking the time to do this. - Cyberdenizen 04:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

To answer your question, I have been enjoying working on this page with Cyberdenizen and think it is going in the right direction. Thanks for all of your help with this. - AdelaMae 02:48, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Page protection of Category:Terrorists

Hi Beland - it was a pleasant surprise to see you add material to the category talk page. Hardly anyone else has commented on it, so it seemed that the page was almost neglected. Anyway, I think we'll leave the talk page unprotected the way it is. Would it be possible for you to monitor that page more often? I am not so familiar with the topic. It might be a good idea to read archive 1 though, as quite a few background things happened there. --HappyCamper 02:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I'm surprised there aren't a dozen people fighting over this page. I actually came back to this page because I had previously tried to help resolve some disagreement, and I was only now getting around to doing follow-up. It was rather dismaying to see the long, unproductive conversation that followed. I'll try to check back more often in the future. Thanks for your help in trying to resolve the dispute. -- Beland 06:02, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Wonderfool

Do you really think it's appropriate to have a User who brags about having created hoax articles? User:Zoe| 01:20, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

SQL dispute cleanup

Hi HappyCamper, could you move a page as described on Talk:List of SQL database management systems? Thanks --R.Koot 19:45, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

One more please: Talk:Comparison_of_SQL_database_management_systems. Thanks much! Turnstep 00:32, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

User talk:65.141.155.43

(see original discussion for my response) Fourohfour 14:16, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Administrative

Blocks

block

Looks like the old user:user mistake (where you enter the name with user: still atached to it). I think last time anyone tested this did result it a block.Geni 03:30, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Weird block

I admit I'm flummoxed. I've looked in all the places I know to look to see if there's a block, but the ways of IP numbers are strange. Joyous | Talk 04:48, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Recent block

It seems he came here with nothing but ill intent and trolling; I'd block him indefinitely if it wasn't so frowned upon. --tomf688 04:01, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Block didn't take?

Well, User:65.110.6.40 is still making edits!? Am I missing something obvious? --DanielCD 03:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

AHH, duh. Ok, I got it. I was starting to really wonder... Anyhow, thanks. --DanielCD 03:26, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Ditto. That was a good idea, protecting the page. --DanielCD 03:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Yea, I usually do blocks and such short term as well, unless someone is really nasty. After a few minutes most vandals get bored move on, so often long-term blocks aren't needed. --DanielCD 03:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Block

It was a bit harsh, but it seemed particularly fit since the 2nd act of vandalism came 5 minutes after the 1st warning for vandalism in the same page. Blatant vandalism is cause for immediate block and the Chile page has been the object of a lot of vandalism lately, so I've been dealing with it a little more promptly... Feel free to unblock (I won't take it personally), but I think is warranted. The idea behind these 24hr blocks is to give them time to either calm down or stop the current rampage. Sebastian Kessel 23:54, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

No prob, is good to know somebody is watching my back. :) Sebastian Kessel 05:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

HA ha ha! Thanks for the kudos man, same applies to you! :) Sebastian Kessel 02:55, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Range block

Hi HC! I'll do it if he/it comes back; it seems to quiet for about 45 minutes now, and I don't want to shut down Cornell University entirely unless absolutely necessary. I'll probably be on for another hour or two tonight. By the way you can figure them out here: -- input the lowest and highest numbers of the range you want to shut down. So, for this one, 128.253.117.32/27 and 128.253.117.64/26 would do the trick. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 04:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Deletions

Safety siping

Hi HC! Since I was the one to list this article for AfD, I probably shouldn't be the one to speedy it under CSD:A8, which in retrospect would have been the right choice. Please take a look and speedy/close, if appropriate. Thanks! Owen× ☎ 01:17, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! Owen× ☎ 01:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Archive deletion

Misplaced Pages:Reference desk archive/2005 questions is up for deletion here in case you want to weigh in. Shimgray brought this to our attention and I've left a note at Toytoy's as he was the originator. --hydnjo talk 00:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC) Thank you ;-) hydnjo talk 01:28, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

re: RD

Sure, I guess it's just a prank. —R. Koot 00:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Why the delete?

I was just about to add more.I Want Erik Estrada's Muscles 04:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Alamance Alfred

That page was a redlink by the time I saw it. Remember, us mere mortals can't see deleted articles. Thus, I'm not exactly sure what to make of this. I did do a search, and it seems to be some TV show, possibly on FOX. It has an Uncyclopedia: article, which convinces me it's legit(seriously, they make up facts, but usually not topics). Superm401 | Talk 04:13, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

The only thing I got when I searched google was a review from a page that dealt with King of the Hill. Seriously, part of the description was "banned because of the insult Alfred" (going from memory) and it had as a character "Randal the vandal, who was known for vandalizing wikipedia articles". It sounds to me like a nihilartikel, created by someone who knows the procedures here. How else would they know to try and force an AfD instead of a speedy? In any case, thanks for looking into it Happy Camper. :) --Syrthiss 13:00, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Protections

Twain

Yes, absolutely. Ever notice how the vandals are obviously going after pages on subjects they have been assigned in school? Antandrus (talk)

Semi-protection

I saw you just reverted vandalism on George W. Bush, and wondered what you thought about the proposals to curb what's going on there. If you have time, check out Misplaced Pages:Semi-protection policy, and weigh in (there's a bit of a large discussion page, so be prepared.) Hope to see you there. -Mysekurity 01:32, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmm...that's a pretty long page to read through! Is there a summary of the current proposal anywhere? --HappyCamper 01:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Yes it is. Hopefully, the guys and I will be able to summarize it soon, but the basic info is on the project page, as it should be. Take a look there, and decide if you agree/disagree with anything. Also, check out the votes section, and VOTE! -Mysekurity 01:44, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism

I guess humor isn't a template

Well first of all, sorry. You have a valid point about my alert being "over the top." However, after the first fifteen garbage reverts of the evening, one is rather frazzled when a convict is let through the door again. What ever happened to three strikes you're out!? We are very liberal here at Misplaced Pages, but if we (as Wikipedians and constructive contributors) continue to be patient with users who obviously have no regard for common decency and act as fools in their anonymity, everything that we've worked diligently to craft loses its authority: Misplaced Pages will rot to become no more than a joke. I don't mind the odd newby edit, but a consistently incompetent user must be dealt with. --Master Jay 02:12, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

User:A pair of shoes

Yup, it's User:WaW alright... Owen× ☎ 03:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi HC! Any edit from a 63.19.xxx.xxx is the "North Carolina Vandal"; it appears he made a few more sockpuppets since his last block expired (WaW, A pair of shoes -- while I have been watching for him I missed these -- see my post on AN/I under ).

Characteristic of his vandalism is bizarre redirects, misleading use of templates, obsession with cartoon TV show characters, liberal vs. conservative and elite vs. redneck "issues"; he also likes too make sockpuppets to argue with each other and pretend separate identities. It might be time to write up a long-term-alerts page on this guy, since I'd guess he has 3,000 vandalisms to his credit, since about June of this year. Antandrus (talk) 03:41, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Since he reliably edits (for now!) from the IP range 63.19.128.0/17, I just blocked it for a week. I am yet to see a good edit from this range, and I am yet to get an e-mail from an innocent blocked user for blocking this range ... so maybe this will help. Cheers! Antandrus (talk) 03:48, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm actually not certain what the company is -- can you tell from this? -- uu.net seems to be related to MCI, but I'm not 100% sure how this works. He uses a dialup and seems to live in north central North Carolina, which is not surprising since the articles he vandalises are regarding places around there. Antandrus (talk) 03:57, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Videomusica

Greetings! I do appreciate your welcome of the new user, and I wasn't complaining, I only wanted you to know that there was a reason I sounded a bit firm after deleting their article. Cheers! --Fire Star 04:07, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Other - Love and Peace

Hm... looks like more of the same user that was trying to harass Aphaia before; I'll ask around (preferably someone who can read Japanese!) and keep an eye on it; not sure what else to do at the moment. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:38, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Hm, looks fishy—but you know, I don't think there's anything really necessary to do. I suspect Jimbo knows what's up with that, or at least who to ask... Mindspillage (spill yours?) 21:31, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Interests, articles, and projects

Reference desk

Massive archival

Hey HC, Nice job at the RD/et al. Kinda nice how the section numbers are now synced with the date. Any way to keep it like that without piling up a full month of questions before the next archive? I was thinking that if an archive happens say after 2 weeks, we could replace the archived section headers and under each date add Questions asked on this date have been archived. No, nevermind, that would screw-up the following month. Well, anyhow it does look pretty when the section # is the same as the date. --hydnjo talk 04:20, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Moving and managment of desk refrence archives

Ok. How can I easly move the questions that have been archived, ( and answered ),from unanswered to where they would belong as answered?

Your faithfull servent 69.181.232.116 02:17, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I obiviously have house plants that are smarter then me at this point. --Artoftransformation 02:18, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

The Flow. Obiviously, there is content there. I, partularry, say things in answer to questions, that I never thought of before, and probibly will not again. The question on flow becomes, how to orginize questions, in other than strict chronological order, to contribute to the quality and depth of the WikipediA as a whole? We have articles about primary schools in Prince Rupert, a tiny fishing village in British Colombia! Everybody just adds stuff where they like! I happen to like answering questions. I did it for a large computer group for 8 Years. Turns out I was answering a question on two famous Upanishads tonight. Question: What are you working towards, and how can I contribute a bit to realizeing your goals? I had better start on developing my own goals. Keep the faith --Artoftransformation 08:56, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Idared

Come by my page shall you? --Artoftransformation 02:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Journal article

Hi there. I saw your question on WP:RD/S. I can't find the paper in question on-line, but that volume of journal seems to be in the library here, so if it's important I could scan it and email you a copy. Let me know. --Bob Mellish 17:09, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Reference desk talk

Happy! Would it be a good idea to remove the IP talk from the answer to the question about Venus? --Artoftransformation 06:45, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Not lost

It just got edited to death but it's still revivable. I started feeling like the lone obstacle and relented to see if anyone would notice (yeah! HC did). I had written in defence of the original concept so often that I began to wonder if I was being an obstructionist :-(

About our janitorial duties at the RD, how do I make a bot request?  :-) --hydnjo talk 02:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

A bot request for archiving was already there so I added a request for section dating. It seems that the two should be considered together as the section dating bot could be then used to trigger the archiving activity at some regular interval. As for ASK, why don't you take a crack at it. I think it's ready for your refreshing insight. Thanks, hydnjo talk 04:30, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

RD All Page

I made a trivial change (Science & Math --> Math), but I wish we could do something about the larger problem of the date headers being at the same level as the page names. However, (as far as I know), the automatic section button can't be customized to go down a level. So it's as good as it gets. Superm401 | Talk 03:44, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

RD/HD section date format

I've been using a MONTH DAY format but somtimes someone gets there before me (only a couple of times) and sections by DAY MONTH. I havn't made an issue of it but wondered if that mixture of formats might screw up your archiving activities (or bot archiving if it ever gets to that). FYI, I put up a bot request for section dating little over a week ago but no response yet. --hydnjo talk 03:36, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Language related

Word association

Yeah--it's a nice way to edit something without thinking too hard. Though, I certainly wish they'd remember to update the word count :-).

Also, I keep meaning to archive, but forget....gonna take care of that now. I can't load the talk page on my Treo anymore--too big! Have a great evening, HC. (preceding unsigned comment by RobyWayne (talk · contribs) 02:08, 3 November 2005 (UTC))

Argh!  :-) >: Roby Wayne 04:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

re:Languages - hy

It's Armenian, hy stands for hyeren(which means Armenian in Armenian), feel free to ask any questions you want. Regards. Fadix 18:38, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Learning IPA

Hi, a while back you asked about learning the IPA. Well, short of taking an introductory phonetics/phonology course at your nearest university, you could try first learning the symbols at IPA chart for English. Those are the most basic symbols as used for English. For the vowels, just focus on whichever set most closely matches your own accent: Received Pronunciation (RP), General American (GenAm), or Australian English (AuE). Just go through the list and try to associate the symbol with the sound. After you've started to get a feel, try transcribing the example words. Then try to transcribe some short sentences (I usually use one-line quotes from famous movies in my classes). Once you've got a good feel for the basics, look at International Phonetic Alphabet for English, which is a little more detailed. If you need help, or want someone to correct your transcriptions, let me know! --User:Angr/talk 18:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Okay, the difference between the sounds usually transcribed b and p in Chinese (whether Mandarin or Cantonese) is not the same as the difference between the sounds spelled b and p in English. In Chinese, the sound spelled b is an unaspirated voiceless stop and the sound spelled p is an aspirated voiceless stop. The aspirated stop has a little puff of air after it, which is indicated in phonetic transcription with a little raised h, so the phonetic transcription of Chinese p is . We have this sound in English, too; the English p at the beginning of a word is aspirated, so English pin, pet, pad, etc., all start with (but for Chinese you might want to make the puff of air last just a tiny bit longer than is usual in English). The unaspirated stop, the one spelled b in transliteration of Chinese, does not have this puff of air. In standard IPA transcription, this sound is just spelled , but some people use (it's actually a little raised equals sign, not a z) to emphasize the fact that it's unaspirated. We have unaspirated in English, too, but not as the first sound of a word. We have it after s, so spin starts with . If you want to make the at the beginning of a word (as you have to in Chinese), say the word spin a few times, then try just thinking the s and starting the word at the p. You'll notice then that there's no puff of air the way there is in the normal word pin. Try making the distinction a few times: "(s)pin... pin... (s)pin... pin..." until you can really hear the difference and can make the unaspirated sound without thinking of an s first. --User:Angr/talk 07:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

What language do we speak?

I chewed over your question at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Language and I think have contributed some thoughts you might find interesting there. Cheers, Marskell 09:15, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Music related

Hora staccato

Ah, "Horrid staccato" as we used to call it, at least as usually played -- yes indeed. I can play it in my head but alas no recording! I can put up a quickie on Grigoraş Dinicu ... did you know he wrote it in 1906? I have no idea what "hora" means in Romanian ... maybe User:Jmabel can help us here ... :-) Antandrus (talk) 02:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

I fattened up the Dinicu article and put up a stublet on the Hora staccato. Expand at will! Have fun! Antandrus (talk) 03:05, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

...and it never occurred to me to look to see if we had an entry on Hora. Uh, DUH. LOL. I got a note from a Romanian speaker overnight on my talk page. Have fun writing! Antandrus (talk) 15:50, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

music projects

Hi there, thanks for your interest in helping out with reviving the computer music wikiproject. As Thanksgiving is rapidly approaching, it may not take shape for a week or so, but I'm working on it. I've already changed around the main wikiproject page for it.... --Phil Kirlin 20:20, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Other projects

New Polymers Logo proposed

See Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Polymers. H Padleckas 14:24, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

A Nanosecond

Where do I put an ancedote about a nanosecond?

Light travels approx 299 792 458m /Sec. or about 0.3m/ in a nano-second. 0.3m or 11.7716535 Inches in nano-second.

The story was that Grace Hopper toured the United states giving out peices of wire 11.7 inches long, Illustrating the length of time that a nanosecond was. Artoftransformation 10:25, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

401

I've merged it into Highway 401, so if the separate article is deleted the information stays. --SPUI (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

McDull

I've had a limited go at cleaning the article up. I'll do some research and try to get back to it later. As someone noted on the talk page, there doesn't seem to be any notation for the copyright status of the image in the article. Cheers, --Fire Star 04:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

Shauri

Dear HappyCamper. I believe that she will be back soon :).--Wiglaf 08:25, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Image strangeness

I was admiring phase-shift keying and the images, and noticed some strangeness with Image:Receiver QPSK.PNG. When you click on the image, its page loads up ok, but there is no upload history, no edit history and the 'image' button at top left is red. What's with that? I was originally going to remind you to add a license tag, but I wonder if something odd is going on that is obscuring it. -Splash 12:10, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

That looks much better. No idea what happened at first. -Splash 02:12, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

my watchlist

well, it certainly isn't 1,000 controversial articles. In fact, most of them are somewhere in the backwaters of Misplaced Pages, obscure Hittite kings and the like. I figure that if some bored vandal finds his way there, chances are that they go long undiscovered unless someone has these on their watchlists, so imho, any active editors should have some random stubs, dab pages and redirects on their watchlists. But you are right, there is far too much activity on my watchlist nevertheless, and I'm obviously missing a lot of edits I would be interested in. I'm considering pruning it of the most controversial articles, since these tend to be well-watched anyway. regards, dab (ᛏ) 17:42, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

qm

Well, I have a master's in particle physics, but I have been into historical linguistics these past six years now. The thing is, I recently came across some articles by Dominic Widdows where he suggests algorithmical parallels between classical QM and SNLP. I've given the idea some thought, and I would like to try it out a little bit. This is why I'm asking for Open Source software, since I'll probably have to do some tweaking. dab (ᛏ) 18:22, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Alas...

I don't know the piece, but I have a strange feeling that anything labeled a "virtuoso showpiece" is going to be a little beyond my abilities! I'm happy to saw away in the middle of the section not missing too many notes. (Bug Antandrus—he's better!) Some day when I get un-lazy I should record some Bach cello suites and some folk songs, though... Mindspillage (spill yours?) 21:59, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

HighHopes

What happened last weekend that tossed him over the edge (if you know)?  :-( --hydnjo talk 03:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmm ... and Durin too. :-( --hydnjo talk 03:13, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Hmmm ... glad you're still around and didn't get zapped by the forces that got those guys. Be strong little grasshopper and you will prevail.  ;-) --hydnjo talk 03:19, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Not so long as you're not on the "active player" list. º0º --hydnjo talk 03:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Bloom

Hi, HappyCamper. Thanks for your message. I'm afraid I'm not very well up on Bloom. Hope you find someone else who can answer your question. Sorry not to have been more helpful. Regards. Ann Heneghan 17:30, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Asking your advice on my admin nom

Hello again, HappyCamper. Yesterday I was nominated for adminship by Wonderfool. It's flattering of course, but after having read through the vote discussions for recent successful and failed nominations, my expectations are that it would not be successful. I have been active on WP, but most of my activities have not brought me into the necessary level of interaction with other users. For one thing, I have relatively few edits on talk pages, and few also on Afd. But I thought I would seek your advice. Do you think I should accept the nomination now, or wait? And if I decide to turn it down, what is the procedure for doing so?

Thanks a lot. --BillC 10:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

The Rougherence desk

Thanks for your message. I took a look over WP:RD properly for the first time. I wonder if I might talk to you about it a little, in a philosophical kind of way. You (personally) appear to be easily the most knowledgeable editor within the science/etc areas (you appear quite the polymath actually). However, I see a lot of, frankly, amateurish answers from others that often confess to being guesses ("I would guess that", "I would think", "I suppose", "Probably"). I see a lot of questions that can be answered with a simple wikilink — and thus a lot of teenagers not willing to do even the smallest part of their homework. So, philosophically speaking, do you think a Reference Desk on a Wiki can work, bearing in mind that Misplaced Pages itself is basically unciteable because of it's lack of credentialling (rather than the vandals)? Don't be offended: I'm just giving it a hard time to see how it bears up. Also, the questions are answered with remarkable speed. On the up side, I saw some answers that I know to be correct and that don't appear in the relevant article. Is there a pass-the-answer-on mechanism for mining the higher-quality RD answers for the encyclopedia-proper? -Splash 23:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I did receive it and have read it. I've been seriously negligent with my email over the last few days...Anyway. I think the points about the absence of warfare and politics is important: there's certainly no (or very little) carping goes on there, which should lead to a spirit of good collaboration, without meaning to sound at all cheesey. AfD exhibits the same sort of breaking point: articles get little to no debate when the number per day rises much above 100 (and it usually does). It's good that some articles have resulted from it too; I hope we get some new Wikipedians from it from time to time. I wonder if the nature of the RD doesn't produce Wikipedians as much as might since they don't have to delve into the encyclopedia-proper: I guess that means wikilinks are important on the ref desk. I took another look at the answers just now, and it seems to look quite a bit better today; I guess it varies. Your points about how the ref desk is perceived and how it works were quite enlightening, I thought. I've decided I will look over it periodically to see if there's anything I can answer. It seems that most of the questions are out of my field though. Perhaps (wireless) comms is a lot more boring than I thought... -Splash 15:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

It always bugs me when...

...people write exp(i) like that, don't quite know why I mean, q(T)=Σe, much cleaner notation than q(T)=Σ*exp(Δεj/(KB*T))--Aolanonawanabe 01:54, 30 November 2005 (UTC)