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Five monks were meditating when suddenly the wind picked up and a flag nearby flapped in the wind.

The first monk, the youngest of the group, broke his meditation and shouted, "Flag is moving!"

The second monk shouted, "Wind is moving!"

The third monk shouted, "Mind is moving!"

The fourth monk shouted, "Nothing is moving!"

The fifth monk, the eldest of the group, shouted, "Mouths are moving!"

Faith in the Kalama Sutta

The offending section has seemed to have disappeared since you asked my help on this. It seems good as it now stands, but I added my ha'peth worth about faith in the Faith in Buddhism article instead Thanissaro (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Outline of Buddhism

You requested this article in the Buddhism Wikiproject. Someone did a lot of work and made it on their own: Outline of Buddhism. Thought you might want to check it out!   Zenwhat (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. That filled a big gap in the religion section of the WP:OOK. The Transhumanist    16:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: Does your scope of interest include human knowledge as a whole (the Big Picture, a bird's eye view, EVERYTHING)? If so, please consider joining WP:WPOOK. -TT

I don't really have any fixed scope of interest on Misplaced Pages. I enjoy contributing but don't seriously expect anything much to come from this site. I will edit pretty much whatever I want, whenever I want, if I can get away with it (WP:IAR), which tends to be random, small fixes and improvements, and I don't really bother with the hassle of trying to collaborate with anyone. I'm also lazy about searching for good references. And I'm not a consistent editor, like the type of person who will edit Misplaced Pages every day, several hours a day, week after week. The length of time I spend on here now varies greatly.

So, I might contribute to pretty much any wikiproject, including yours if I happen to feel like it (right now I don't) but I won't make the formal commitment of signing my name to the page or adding some silly category tag, "Support of Wikiproject Whatever," to my userpage. With that said, I think that the lack of good outlines is the least of Misplaced Pages's issues.

Thanks for the offer, though.   Zenwhat (talk) 16:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

What are the most of Misplaced Pages's issues? The Transhumanist    23:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Satanic ritual abuse

Hi,

You've got SRA on your hall of shame page. Now that ResearchEditor has been blocked, I wonder if you still think it belongs there? Just curiosity... WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 15:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I thought I deleted that page? I remember somebody complaining about it, that it was "uncivil," etc.. I don't update that page anymore.
Anyway, it wasn't that specific user or edit which I thought was shameful: It was the existence of the entire page. You had a page devoted to a phenomenon that never actually happened. At the time, the article was regularly filled with allegations and speculations that SRA actually might've gone on and I thought that was a LOL funny.
Looking at it now, it seems like the article is much better, no doubt due to the banning of a whole slew of editors and a small group of rational individual editors putting their feet down over such nonsense.
Thanks for reminding me, btw, about all of my stupid subpages. I need to delete some of them.   Zenwhat (talk) 15:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
You could always slap a {{db-userreq}} on it. Glad you're happy with the current SRA, it was a labour of hate. I really hated the douchebag who thought it was real. WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 16:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
You shouldn't take Misplaced Pages or such crazy people so seriously. I bet he thinks Satan created rock 'n roll and Obama is the anti-Christ.   Zenwhat (talk) 16:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Request for assistance

I am currently trying to help the editors in the Falun Gong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) topic area move away from POV pushing and personal commentary. (Please note: Talk:Falun Gong#Topic area review.) You are an editor that I believe can help facilitate this change. I am looking for some uninvolved people with experience and savvy to become involved in the editorial process. A review of the article and associated discussion, in a style similar to a good article review or broad RfC response, would be a good first step and very helpful. However, some leadership in discussion and editing as a whole would be invaluable and sincerely appreciated. This can cover a very broad range including (but not limited to) identifying article flaws, keeping conversation focused on content, reporting disruptive editors, making proposed compromises, boldly correcting errors, and so forth. If you are willing to help out, please look things over and provide your feedback on the Falun Gong talk page. Essentially, we need some experienced editors to put things on track. Any assistance in this regard is gratefully welcomed. Thanks! Vassyana (talk) 06:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Art requests?

Hey, I'm asking you this because you seem like the type of person who'd know...

Do you know if there's any place on Misplaced Pages where a person can request that a piece of artwork be made for Misplaced Pages (for the Wikimedia Commons)? I know there's a place for people can request scripts or bots, so I thought, why not art?

Because I had a good idea for something for the Outline of Buddhism article, which would also be a fun project: It would be neat to have a single image depicting the various mythological creatures of Buddhist cosmology. Nagas, Garudas, Gandhabbas, Yakkhas, Snow Lions, etc.. There are some pictures of these things on the Commons already, but they're not very good and couldn't be combined into a single presentation, for instance, for the Buddhist cosmology article or the Buddhist Outline.   Zenwhat (talk) 12:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

GIMP rocks!
I highly recommend that you try to do it yourself. Many graphics software programs are free, and are as or nearly as powerful as their non-free counterparts. You'll be surprised how easy graphics programs are to use when you have the proper instructions. For instructions, Misplaced Pages-style, see...
Misplaced Pages:Graphics tutorials
A program not listed on there is Splashup a raster graphics program run online (from its website). Misplaced Pages needs a tutorial on it, so if you get good at using it, please contribute one.
Another free program not listed, but of the download type, is Paint.NET.
See also: Graphics software and Graphic art software.
Dipping into the effort yourself will help you understand the programs better so that you can better specify what you may want others to do, and so that you can touch up their work (very handy). And you may be surprised at the quality results you can produce yourself.
To find others who can help, see:
I hope you find my advice helpful.

The Transhumanist    23:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Revert

Why did you revert my edit here? ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 02:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

To remove this unsourced/uncited controversial statement:

"When he got there, he found that Buddhism, which had already been established, was perverted by superstitious devotionalism, devoid of true insight. Thus, Bodhidharma focused on direct insight about one's own experience, under the instruction of a Zen teacher, discouraging misguided veneration of Buddhas for the sake of superstition."Jikaku (talk) 18:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I didn't add that, though. I restored it after a user removed a fair amount of content from that section without explanation. I agree that anything there which is not sourced should be sourced, though, so would it be okay if I restored it and added a tag? When you made that revert, you also removed a paragraph that was previously there and was sourced.   Zenwhat (talk) 18:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Accusations of bad faith

are beneath you, when what you say is not supported by the evidence. Please strike or remove. These issues that you claim are small cut right to the heart of the matter, and have been staple of that WP:SPAs editing - which has involved meatpuppetry, misuse of WP:3O etc, and other tendentious and disruptive editing tactics. Verbal chat 21:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not accusing either of you of bad faith. I'm saying you're both good faith editors who are misjudging eachother as bad faith editors.
I agree it's extremely annoying for a single editor to dominate an article the way that Noirtist does, but from what I've seen of his edits so far, they aren't too contentious.   Zenwhat (talk) 21:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)