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The Misplaced Pages Signpost: 5 October 2009

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Misplaced Pages mirrors

Hi. First, let me say how glad I am that you're still plugging away at copyvios. :D We really need you. I hope you will be well and thoroughly addicted by the time you do pick up your admin tools, as we still have such a shortage of copyvio admins.

Specifically, I'm here to discuss a special situation you encountered on Aamir Ghauri. This was tagged by CorenSearchBot, but you removed the tag as a "Misplaced Pages mirror." True enough; it is. But strange as it seems, this does not eliminate copyvio concerns; it just means we have to figure out how this content got placed as "new" on Misplaced Pages by this contributor and if he had the right to place it here. For example, did he copy or split it from an existing article? Did he salvage an article that had been deleted? Either way, unless he was the sole contributor of the earlier version, he can't place the text here without acknowledging his source as required under re-use at the copyright policy. In this particle case, the article is a WP:CSD#G4. Since I can see the contributor list, I know that it is also a copyvio, as this was not the creator of the text originally. If the previous article had been deleted by PROD, I'd be restoring the history for attribution and, if the deletion rationale seemed valid, nominating for AfD.

Back to it, but I wanted to stop and explain. These don't show up that often, but they do pop up now and again and they require a bit of sleuthing. :) If you find one and need to view the history, please feel free to pop by my talk page, and I can help figure out if there are attribution issues. --Moonriddengirl 14:24, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Orgyen Tobgyal

I apologize for the confusion between CC-By-NC 3.0 and CC-By-SA 3.0, thanks for the correction. I have rewritten the sentences that were too close from the main source, and added other references, which helped having more accurate information. Please, can you see wether this is now acceptable ? With many thanks in advance, --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks, I'll remember the difference. Sorry again for the trouble. All the best. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 20:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (Q3 2009)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 2, No. 5 — 3rd Quarter, 2009
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Copyright

It's taken direct from the Refuge website, which is a product of the federal government and consequently in public domain. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 21:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Sure, it's my pleasure. Apparently there are a lot of mirrors of NWR websites out there - tourist websites, mainly - which clouds the issue considerably. I left Coren a note on his talkpage explaining what my sources are for these. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoLo dicono a Signa. 21:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Ser Amantio di Nicolao. I hope TL doesn't mind my jumping in here. Thanks for providing the attributions to the source. I just wanted to mention that it is also suggested that you make a note about the source in your edit summary when it is copied text. For example, when creating Clear Lake National Wildlife Refuge, your first edit summary could say, text copied from PD website http://www.fws.gov/Refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=81647. This is our preferred procedure at WP:Plagiarism#Public domain sources. It may help in keeping some of the unwanted CV tags off the article. But, more importantly, it is very helpful later on, after other editors have changed or altered the original text. Good luck with your editing. — CactusWriter | 09:02, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup submissions

Hi, please see Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup#Why should you get credit for these?. iMatthew  at 18:50, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Cellophane

Hi. :) Thanks for the clean up on that one (and all the other ones you clean up :D), but wanted to point out that the link is a problem under WP:LINKVIO. We can link to music lyrics if they are hosted legally, but not when they are a violation of copyright. In any event, I am redirecting this one per WP:MUSIC, as it doesn't indicate stand-alone notability.--Moonriddengirl 19:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for letting me know! :) Yeah, redirecting the article seems like a good idea (why didn't I think of that?!). Theleftorium 20:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Jacksonville

I have double checked the new version and I assure you that every sentence is different. I think the history is far more comprehensive and draws from more sources than the article which you cite. Thanks. Racepacket (talk) 15:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for specifying your concerns. All four of the sentences you cited are different:

  • On March 1, 1847, the legislature established a nine-member board of trustees that was empowered to appoint a superintendent, purchase land within four miles of Jacksonville, and construct facilities for the Illinois State Asylum and Hospital for the Insane. (both paraphrased the statute)
  • All patients were to be maintained at state expense. However, patients or their counties were expected to pay for clothing, travel, and incidental expenses. (This will be fixed.)
  • At that time, the board of trustees was reduced to three members and the newly created Board of State Commissioners of Public Charities was given authority to investigate and report to the Governor on conditions at the hospital. (This will be fixed.)
  • From 1944 to 1974 the hospital provided training in psychiatric nursing for participated in a departmental affiliation program for psychiatric nursing which provided instruction in psychiatric nursing to students from general hospital nursing schools. Jacksonville's Psychiatric Nursing Affiliation Program, which was headed by the State Alienist, The Psychiatric Nursing Affiliation Program offered two-, three,- and four-month terms of classroom instruction and practical training at the hospital.

I believe the articles are sufficiently different. I also suspect that the Manteno website copied it from a state website. Racepacket (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I have addressed your two sentences. You see that I added two more sources which I have found, and that you have checked those as well. I think this is sufficiently different to withstand any copyright infringement suit from the Manteno website, which appears to have derived from the Illinois archives website. A court would look at the order in which ideas are presented (the organization of the work) as well as the individual sentences. Every sentence and their sequence are different. Racepacket (talk) 16:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your consideration. You are probably wondering why should English Misplaced Pages see new articles on these subjects only after so many years. Although these Illinois institutions were historic pioneers in the fields of mental health and developmental disability, and did much to improve the care of hundreds of thousands of patients, there is a certain stigma attached to mental illness and people don't want to spend their time reading and writing about it. It is still an important part of society and cultural heritage. Racepacket (talk) 17:13, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XXXIII

The WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter
Round IV, Issue 6 - October 10, 2009

Archive before | Archive after

Pool leaders

In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom three contestants of the top eight were eliminated on September 30th, while the top five are continuing for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.

Top 5
  1. Switzerland Sasata (1153)
  2. Maryland Ottava Rima (1148)
  3. Sweden Theleftorium (1025)
  4. Mexico Durova (1010)
Eliminated 3
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (534)
  2. Albany, New York Mitchazenia (352)
  3. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (314)
Withdrawn
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (1183)
  • All scores are accurate as of 18:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders

As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:

WikiCup At a Glance

As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a Round 4 final total of:

This combines with the Round 1, Round 2, and Round 3 totals to make a grand total of:

Biggest Jumps

The difference between each contestant's point total from last week, and their point total from this week are:

Rank User LF TF D
1 Switzerland Sasata 849 1153 304
2 Maryland Ottava Rima 910 1148 238
3 Mexico Durova 914 1010 96
4 Sweden Theleftorium 938 1025 87
  • LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
From the Judges

Hi everyone! We're very sorry we didn't get this one out anytime sooner. We've all been pretty busy IRL. But down to business: Since the last newsletter, the first half of the round has ended. We said goodbye to Candlewicke, Juliancolton, and Mitchazenia. We'd like to thank them for all of their hard work getting this far. Shoemaker's Holiday has also withdrawn, so we'd like to thank him for his hard work too. Congratulations to Durova, Ottava Rima, Sasata, and Theleftorium for making the top 4! Good luck to you all.

You also may have seen from the WikiCup talk page that we have a new judge! J Milburn is joining our judging team effective immediately. J was assigned after Garden and Thehelpfulone announced they would be highly inactive throughout the remainder of the WikiCup. It is likely you will see J return as a judge next year as well.

Good luck again to the remaining four contestants! 20 days left in the Round, so make sure you get all your content nominated soon! You've all worked hard for this, since the beginning of January. I'm sure you're all tired by now, but you've come too far to just give up now. Congratulations Top 4!  GARDEN , iMatthew , J Milburn, and The Helpful One

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WP:Split

Hello. While looking over your edits I noticed that yesterday you found and corrected two instances where WP:Split wasn't executed properly. Adair (name) and Postal codes in Israel were the split articles for which you fixed the attribution. I'm curious - how did you learn that those articles needed attribution links? Did you randomly happen across them or is there a search that helped you locate them? If there is a search procedure to find improperly split articles then I would appreciate it if you could explain how to perform that search. That's something I would be interested in helping with. If you just happened to stumble across those articles, then kudos to you for your diligence and your attention to detail. 152.16.59.102 (talk) 22:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Jackson Warner

Hi. I appreciate that you made some efforts to paraphrase the text on Andrew Jackson Warner so it would no longer be a copyright infringement. Unfortunately, adding synonyms and minor alterations in the sentences won't relieve the plagiarism issue. As it is currently written, the text will need to be deleted as a copyright violation. You are welcome to rewrite the text using original language. The page on WP:Close paraphrasing can provide you with some explanations and help. In the long run, it is always better to simply write the text from scratch using your own words. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Regards. Theleftorium 20:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

rewrote article to address your concerns--Pubdog (talk) 20:38, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The Misplaced Pages Signpost: 12 October 2009

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new proyects

hey left, i saw your to-do list and if you do noit mind i could help in the MJ song Smooth criminal, so wachta say. --Pedro J. 20:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Left i want to nominate the pilot of FG but i do not know is i did it right ctj83 daid that you may now.--Pedro J. 23:15, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

In reference to listing general Show related cast info for an episode page. CTJF83 chat 23:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

can you tell me if the producction isright, i mean i put a lot of the FG page it self and dont now if it's right.--Pedro J. 23:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

For Death Has a Shadow he put in cast and production information from the series as a whole, not specifically related to the episode. I said to ask you if that is how he should do it or not. I didn't think so. CTJF83 chat 23:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I think that section should be shortened down (like a small summary) since it's already on the main Family Guy article. This article doesn't seem ready for GAN, though. The reception section needs to be expanded. Theleftorium 23:22, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Feedback request

Hi. I know you're not currently signed on with WP:COPYCLEAN, but I consider you a pretty important part of the copyright cleanup team given your current activities. :) There is some conversation at WT:COPYCLEAN at the moment that may interest you, and particularly this thread as MLauba is discussing something that will impact the workload at WP:SCV. If you feel like it, please drop by. --Moonriddengirl 12:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and a request

You may not know that Corensearchbot is not at this point able to warn individuals if they do not already have article talk pages. If you clean an article where the contributor was not warned (I see this happened at Yokohama Country & Athletic Club), could you please explain the copyright policies to them? This is important, obviously, to keep them from doing it again, when Corensearchbot might not notice. :) I'll let this one know. This is jut a request for future. --Moonriddengirl 12:54, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I found another one of these (not yours) and have created a form letter for the situation. It's at User:Moonriddengirl/form_letters#Text_cleaned_at_SCV.3B_contributor_not_notified. Feel free to use it. If you copy the material from ==, the only thing you need to include is the article title. :) (Again, if you see any mistakes, please let me know!) --Moonriddengirl 14:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
shamelessly stolen remixed and attributed. MLauba (talk) 15:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't know that. I'll use your form letter in the future. :-) Theleftorium 15:56, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm about to test MLauba's template on you. :D Don't worry. It'll be swiftly removed. If it works, you can save some time and just use {{subst:User:MLauba/tcclean|ARTICLE}} and get a handy notice. --Moonriddengirl 18:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Returning the favour

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
If I can actually ensure WP:SCV is completely clear when you log on, it's because of all you do regularly when the backlog mounts in the 100s. Keeping it down when there's 10 items on it every morning is easy. MLauba (talk) 15:43, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Re:The Great Wife Hope

Thanks, Theleftorium! Consider it my first act as a member of WP:DOH, lol :) The Flash 20:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. And do you need any help with "Homer the Whopper" or do you have it already planned out? The Flash 20:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I'll see what I can add to it :) The Flash 20:18, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you able to collaborate with me on articles again now? 03md 20:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

I might have some time over this weekend to work on the production section for The Otto Show. Could you expand the reception section and clean up the rest of the article a bit? Theleftorium 20:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Left, scorpion, flash and me finished Homer the whopper and it is now a GAN, good job lefty.=D--Pedro J. 04:10, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

hry left, can you tell me some hallmarks that lisa has, i am working to get her to a fa.--Pedro J. 18:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

is that better left or i=did i just make it worst.--Pedro J. 19:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

can you connect to wpsimpsons.--Pedro J. 19:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

darn, well lisa is a bit more cmplicated than bart, so we well see what happens tell me when you can conect to disscus unless you wish to discuss now.--Pedro J. 19:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

tell me what can i do so that we can agree on lisa.--Pedro J. 23:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

better yet i have a peer review on lisa can you review it.--Pedro J. 20:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown

Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow these Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown upon Theleftorium for your contributions to articles TV-related and otherwise in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FC. Well done, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:26, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you! :) Theleftorium 09:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup Newsletter XXXIV

The WikiCup Newsletter

The WikiCup Newsletter
Round IV, Issue 7 - October 17, 2009

Archive before | Archive after

Pool leaders

In this round of the WikiCup, the bottom three contestants of the top eight were eliminated on September 30th, while the top five are continued for an additional month. On October 31, a winner will be announced.

Top 4
  1. Switzerland Sasata (1332)
  2. Mexico Durova (1259)
  3. Maryland Ottava Rima (1242)
  4. Sweden Theleftorium (1041)
Eliminated 3
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (534)
  2. Albany, New York Mitchazenia (352)
  3. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (314)
Withdrawn
  1. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (1183)
  • All scores are accurate as of 20:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC).
Content Leaders

As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:

WikiCup At a Glance

As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a Round 4 final total of:

This combines with the Round 1, Round 2, and Round 3 totals to make a grand total of:

Biggest Jumps

The difference between each contestant's point total from last week, and their point total from this week are:

Rank User LF TF D
1 Mexico Durova 1010 1259 249
2 Switzerland Sasata 1153 1332 178
3 Maryland Ottava Rima 1148 1242 94
4 Sweden Theleftorium 1025 1041 16
  • LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
From the Judges

We have announced the intention to hire another new judge to cover for future judge absences. If you are interested please see the talk page for the WikiCup.

That's all the news for this week; not long to go now, and it's still all to play for...  GARDEN , iMatthew , J Milburn, and The Helpful One

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DYK for Myron Brinig

Updated DYK query On October 19, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Myron Brinig, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Misplaced Pages exists due to the contributions of volunteers like you. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 02:00, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Re:

No, I haven't forgotten. I'll get to it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna wait a while until I create it. There's a huge backlog at GAN and I don't want to add more to the section. When it slows down, I guess, I'll create the article. Also, thank you for the barnstar, I appreciate a whole lot. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:16, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Homer the Whopper/GA1

Hey, Left. A user has opened up the review for the article - I've adhered to a few issues, but there's still some more. The Flash 23:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

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Illinois State Archives website

Hello, Theleftorium. You have new messages at Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems/2009 October 11.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hi, TL. For your information, I left the following message on Moonriddengirl's page to see what she says.

I saw your discussion with Theleftorium concerning text copied from from the Illinois State Archives website on those mental hospital pages. That text is a description taken directly from the Illinois Secretary of State's website (which hosts the archival info). According to their disclaimer notice here, Information presented on the Secretary of State’s web site is considered public information and may be distributed or copied. The question is whether that that simple of a notice conforms with WP. — CactusWriter | 07:01, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Would you like to help me?

Hi, I'm Music2611, we have met a few times I believe. I'm currently working on Seinfeld season two episode articles, but I'm having difficulties finding sources for reception. Could you help me out, as you have access to LexisNexis. Most urgent are reviews for "The Revenge", which is currently at FAC. Additionally, if it's no problem, I need some reviews to expand the reception sections in "The Baby Shower", "The Apartment" and, perhaps, "The Chinese Restaurant". Thanks.--Music26/11 10:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Great! You can e-mail them to me, my adress is "pietjepuk93@live.nl".--Music26/11 16:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Copy editing for Lisa the Vegetarian?

Hello! I was just noticing in the list of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Articles Needing Copy Edit that this article is listed. You said in April 2009 that, "the article needs a copyedit before I nominate it for FA." It's now a FA (congratulations!), so do you still need the article on that list? JohnFromPinckney (talk) 04:34, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Archive

I was doing in manually with the help of the tool. I hope you don't mind. I didn't change any of the actual content, all I did was fix a few disambiguations and links. The actual content is the same and every link goes to the same target page (i.e. the link to Superintendent Chalmers goes to the page that Superintendent Chalmers redirects to (List of recurring characters in The Simpsons#Superintendent Chalmers). I would never change what others are saying. TJ Spyke 14:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)