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Goldband fusilier fish Pterocaesio chrysozona

Hi Geronimo, Do you fancy putting together some sort of article for a pretty tuna baitfish species from Papua New Guinea? There is a lot of info about it here:

I am asking you because Mila (User:Mbz1) uploaded a picture she took of a school of them that enveloped her when she was diving off Papua New Guinea. She says she head them coming before she actually saw them, and then all of a sudden she was in the middle of the school. You can see what she said about them on her talk page: . Mila asked me if I wanted to do an article on this species, but I am not very good on fish, so what do you think? Best to you as always, Invertzoo (talk) 12:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Swarm

Please checkout the swarm article talk page. I commented on your recent rearrangement of the order and distinction between different swarms. Thanks, Dr. Dan (talk) 04:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Questions about projects

Hi Geronimo,

In two weeks' time am going to be on a panel at the first Wiki-Conference New York. I'm going to be talking mostly about Project Gastropods. I wanted to ask you, you probably know more about how to find out info on a project. Do you know how to find out how many articles are currently in a project? Any other ideas you can think of that might help, please let me know, I would be delighted to hear any suggestions. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 01:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Geronimo. The panel is supposedly loosely entitled "Barnraising and cross-wiki collaborations". However, there are 4 of us, one other person is talking on starting a WikiProject, and another is talking on the stages of a WikiProject's life. I am planning to talk about how our project has been progressing and evolving. As you might imagine, in the last 2 years the project has made quite startling progress in number and quality and importance of the articles, although we have also run into several major speed bumps along the way, which I can briefly discuss. Yes, I am planning to put together a PowerPoint, really only because I suspect people routinely expect some kind of visual display and might be bored without it. I guess I was really asking if you know how to scare up some statistics about a project. Any kind of suggestion from you is welcome though, because I very much respect your intelligence as well as your PR sense. Best Invertzoo (talk) 11:43, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I am still asleep somewhat, not having had breakfast yet. I just now saw your reply and Gadfium's about the statistics. That's a great help yes. I knew that existed, but I had somewhat forgotten about it and would not have remembered how to find it. Many thanks! Invertzoo (talk) 12:02, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

HI, me again. Can I ask where exactly you found the template with all the statistics about Project Gastropods? I know I have seen it before, but I just don't remember where. I figure I can use an updated version for this week (probably) by the end of the week. Thanks! Invertzoo (talk) 22:10, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Traditional fishing boats

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Skipjack Tuna

I did not use the peacock term "mighty" and agree it should be deleted. Regarding the issue of kosher: I wavered between totally deleting the reference, as most fish do not have a "kosher" section in their wikipage. However, since this one does, it is important to make clear that the fish is "felt to be" kosher because of "fins and scales." All kosher judgments are just that judgements (sp?) and few issues are completely black and white. Thus you should either completely delete the kosher reference, or include fins and scales (it is not fins alone that determine kosher, it is both, thus it reads very silly to only say "fins=kosher" DUCY?. As I am not an admin, I don't want to get in an edit war with you that I would lose. I am merely stating the facts and leave it up to you. I could (not) care less but just want to educate you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.233.110 (talk) 22:04, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

agree w/your comments cheers and enjoy tuna —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.233.110 (talk) 13:41, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Template

Thanks very much Geronimo for the link to the template. I also wanted to ask: do you have any idea if it is possible to get statistics as to how many gastropod project articles there were 2 years ago? Thanks so much once again, Invertzoo (talk) 13:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Fishing history

I have nominated Category:Fishing history (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for renaming to Category:History of fishing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Types of fish

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Types of fish

Just a word to say that I loved your article. Hopefully you will take it onto GA and FA status one day. Seth Whales (talk) 22:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar!

You certainly qualify as an honorary member of WikiProject Gastropods, because you have helped us so much in many different ways over the past 2 years, so here's an award:

		A piece of Jimbo's star
		For the hard work that Geronimo has put into helping make WikiProject Gastropods as great as it is, I award him a nice-sized chunk of the barnstar that Jimbo gave us on July 25 2009. This piece has a diamond in it! Invertzoo (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Geronimo. Do you happen to know if I can just put a PDF file of the slide show onto a subpage of my userpage? Thanks again, Invertzoo (talk) 14:00, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The slideshow

Thanks so much Geronimo, a pdf of the slide show is here:

DYK for Pelagic fish

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You really deserve

		The Honorary Membership
		For services to WikiProject Gastropods above and beyond the call of duty, I award you Geronimo this Honorary Lifetime Membership. Congratulations! Invertzoo (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Well Geronimo, you already lived up to it, which is why you were awarded it. No further effort is required. You have been extremely helpful to us both directly and indirectly. Actually, if you look at the list of Participants here: , you will see that currently the only other lifetime honorary member is Jimbo, so you are in good company. I salute you. Invertzoo (talk) 00:07, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you help me by shedding any light on this?

Can I ask you Geronimo, I don't understand something about the quality rating scale. How is it that an article can get an "A" rating without first getting a "good article rating"? Right now we only have B articles. Should all of our B articles go through GA before reaching A or not? I am confused by this. Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 15:05, 2 August 2009 (UTC) You know, because it says "Good article status is not a requirement for A-Class" but our User:JoJan thought they all had to go from B to GA and then to A... Invertzoo (talk) 22:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You see, I gave the article Socorro springsnail an A last week, but then I downgraded it to a B because I thought, oh maybe I can't do that. Invertzoo (talk) 22:25, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

spearfishing

why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.157.173 (talk) 13:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.157.173 (talk) 13:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

i will add it back. --88.218.157.173 (talk) 13:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is straightforward, but it does not explain, why it is. --88.218.157.173 (talk) 14:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

they also used sharpened stones. did the primitive spears not penetrate the prey as effectively? is that what you are saying? --88.218.157.173 (talk) 14:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

so? --88.218.157.173 (talk) 14:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

all right. --88.218.157.173 (talk) 15:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Assessment, GA or A?

Here is your reply to me and my subsequent comments:

Like you, I think the A-class versus GA issue is obscure, and not at all well set out in guidelines such as here, here, here and here. Anyway, for what it is worth, here is my take. It boils down to how your project is going to handle quality control for its best articles. You don't have to assess an article at all before nominating it for FA. However, unless you really know what you are doing, you should first submit the article for FA peer review or put it through the GA peer review process. On the other hand, you can classify an article as A-grade youself, without going through any quality control process external to your project.

Yes that's what I figured, my take was the same as your take. Invertzoo (talk) 14:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

The main difference between A and GA class articles, as I understand them, is that GA-class articles need to undergo a review process external to your project, whereas A-class don't, and can be assessed by anyone. A-class articles are usually assessed by project members, who tend to have more focus on content, while GA-class are assessed by outside editors with more focus on style. Projects don't usually move articles through both GA and A levels on the way to FA, and in practice, GA has largely replaced A-class.

OK, that makes sense. That is what it looks like when you read the descriptions of the classes. A appears to be on the way to becoming vestigial. Invertzoo (talk) 14:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

However, the policy you adopt towards assessment is, to some degree, a matter for each project to decide. For example, you might decide to use A-class, but require such articles to go through a peer review within the project. The huge Military History project find A-class articles useful, and still use them (partially to take pressure off the external review processes). It is a matter of utility and assuring adequate quality control.

Makes sense. Invertzoo (talk) 14:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

There are some talk page discussions here, here and here. Fishing and Fisheries needs to start working articles up the quality ladder as well, so it will be interesting to see how we go! I think, for small projects like ours, forget about A class, but work articles up to GA before submitting them for FA. --Geronimo20 (talk) 23:13, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I think that is what I would like to do too if other project members agree. Invertzoo (talk) 14:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

A couple more useful links are here and here. Notice Misplaced Pages has 6986 GA-class articles altogether, and only 470 A-class articles, underlining that A-class articles are pretty much out of fashion. --Geronimo20 (talk) 00:28, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Great! Many thanks for that masterly analysis! I also wanted to say, your writing is always very clear and pleasing, I admire your transparent prose style. Invertzoo (talk) 14:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Intertidal ecology

Hello, I received a message :

User talk:117.194.228.138 Jump to: navigation, search

July 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Intertidal ecology, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Geronimo20 (talk) 21:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I did not edit that page, ever. In fact this is the first time I saw that page. I've no idea why I received this message. wiki must be going crazy !!

117.194.228.138 (talk) 16:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

GA review of love dart

As one of the three original authors of love dart, you may want to take a look at the GA review of it which is on its talk page currently. Thanks and best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 17:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I am ashamed to say that even after 2 years here I still don't really understand how to do references properly; I get confused. Also, I can't quite understand how exactly I should go about fixing up the charts that Michal (Snek) originally made, in the way that the reviewer recommends they should be changed. That would be item "NEEDS WORK FIVE".

The NEEDS WORK TWO and AND NEEDS WORK THREE are both now relying on a new ref, a New Scientist article. I don't know if I have done the refs OK on those or not.

Also have you any ideas about the problem mentioned in NEEDS WORK FOUR: the cupid image?

Best wishes and many, many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 22:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help. About the positioning of the references in those NEEDS WORK FIVE charts, although you fixed nearly all of it, the reviewer says:

"These two entries: Helix pomatia and Zonitoides nitidus and excavatus still need attention. Diderot's dreams (talk) 15:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)"

Thanks for any more help you can give. Invertzoo (talk) 13:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Sooty Terns in Seabird

The years bit was a reference to newly fledged birds, which don't breed for a few years and are apparently aloft for the whole time until they do. But yes, adults stay aloft only until the breeding season. Sabine's Sunbird talk 07:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Citation. Yes... somewhere. You see, there was an age when citation were good but not essential for every statement. As memory serves it was Sibley's book of avian behaviour I think my copy is in.... Britain? Maybe Hawaii. It's not here anyway. More's the pity. The perils of moving too much for work. Anyways, I wasn't really expecting you to move it back on my account (I mean, I'm only an admin with six FAs under my belt). It was more a kind of Hey, look, I wrote that and it was actually true only I can't quite prove it right at this exact moment although when I get all my books back I will, but in the meantime ,maybe you'd get a kick out of knowing that it is true and the guy that wrote it isn't crazy or impressionable. Yet. Anyways, as soon as I can prove it I will put it back. Cheers. Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

One more question about "articles by quality statistics" table

Can I ask you: what piece of code did you used to get the Gastropods assessment table to appear on my talk page? I want to put it on the Project main page. Many thanks! Invertzoo (talk) 14:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah thank you, thank you, for the educational note, Geronimo, "Transclusions", ah, that's a $5 word! Invertzoo (talk) 21:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Cladograms

Wow, that might be very useful! I will hang onto your post and talk to you about it when I am a bit less busy, Even more thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 21:45, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello, could you make taxonomy tree for Taxonomy of the Gastropoda (Bouchet & Rocroi, 2005), please? Just for main clades, we will see how it will look like. This overview on that page is not very clear. For example everything below clade Heterobranchia belongs to clade Heterobranchia. I will continuously check the tree. Thanks. --Snek01 (talk) 23:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC) Very good!

Mistakes to be corrected:

• add Basal taxa that are certainly Gastropoda (as one of main clades, see taxobox in Gastropoda article)
• move Pulmonata as a subclade of Heterobranchia (yes, there was this mistake in various places in wiki) (see taxobox in Heterobranchia article - it is correct there)
• remove accidentally added Cephalaspidea and Thecosomata from lower part of cladogram. Just these two names are added twice.

Typographic details (to be easily readable):

• remove label "Taxonomy of the Gastropoda"
• remove explanations (it can be directly in the article)
• (remove "Gastropoda" to save some place if necessary )
• I have set default size of the font.
• If it could help, then there is no need to recognize clades, informal groups and groups and fossil (exclusivelly fossil of these are 3 of them.)

--Snek01 (talk) 11:35, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Excellent! Now its all right. Thank you. --Snek01 (talk) 17:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that's fantastically useful for us and for readers too! Thanks so much both Geronimo and Snek! Invertzoo (talk) 20:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Geronimo for noticing that, and showing me the other version, you are very kind. What I did was to add in a miniature version of the original list, but with some of the indenting below Heterobranchia corrected on it. I think some people will prefer to look at the cladogram, and others will prefer to read the list. I think they are both good in different ways. clades, groups and informal groups Best wishes to you as always, Invertzoo (talk) 23:33, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Aquaculture in China

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DYK for Fish diseases and parasites

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Additions to Mahi mahi

Thank you for noticing, Geronimo20. I do have an account, but I don't always log in. When I do, my username is SEIBasaurus. I am a retired rocket engineer, living on the "space coast" of Florida, where I have fished for many years and wrote the fishing/boating handbook for my club, the Florida Sportfishing Association. I would appreciate any help I can get. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.104.154 (talk) 22:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Eco-terrorism

I have just discovered the little (talk) thing after a username but I am not sure exactly how to use it so I have blundered around to this "new section" bit. I wanted to add to your comments about 68.41... As you said the IP has made comments about you. I share that distinction. On the talk page of 'eco-terrorism' this IP warns on the 8 August 2009: "Certain editors (like Tranquillity Base) seem to be on a mission to clean up Sea Shepherds image on Misplaced Pages. Please do not let these edits remove pertinent information such as how the FBI defines eco-terrosim by using Sea Shepherd violence as an example. It's in the article now but keeps getting removed. Same problem on the Sea Shepherds main page which get white washed from time to time as well." You said that 68.41.. is "essentially a single issue anon with obvious POV issues", and I agree. Tranquillity Base (talk) 06:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

P.S. How does one send messages? As in 'you have new messages from last change' or similar... Tranquillity Base (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:47, 15 August 2009 (UTC).

Adi Da

Dear Geronimo20,

I am writing to you regarding the wikipedia article on Adi Da Samraj. I am appreciative of Adi Da's work and I have been trying to help in creating an article on him that conforms to wikipedia standards. However, user Tao2911, who I noticed you recently warned with vandalism, has been a major disruption in numerous editors efforts to not only create a neutral article, but to even maintain it's neutrality for more than 24 hours. On Tao2911's talk page, I noticed that he has been warned several times in the past year regarding this specific article, and most recently by you.

I simply want to create an article on Adi Da that is neutral and informative, and we have found Tao2911 to be a constant disruption to this. It seems that he is only interested in pushing his own biases into this article, and at this point, has made it nearly impossible for this article to achieve the neutrality, consistency, and straightforwardness a wikipedia article should have. I and I notice another editor KarlKaiser have been trying to do this. If you take a look, in less than a single 24 hour period, Tao2911 has made a total of 15 edits since your warning, some minor, and many reverting entire sections.

I've noticed in studying the edit history of this article that nearly every editor who has tried to make it conform to wikipedia standards has come up against Tao2911 and his disruptive tactics. At this point, I simply do not know what to do.

Can you help us?NeesheePandit (talk) 23:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

per your message re Adi Da page

I only reverted to a previous hard-won, multiple editor consensual version; I stated my reasons for doing so and requested that further changes be discussed, and address my concerns. This did not happen - my reversion was reversed, twice, by editors new to the page, with no explanation or addressing of my concerns in Talk. I then also made further edits to accommodate other editors concerns. I don't think that you are perceiving the situation clearly, or fairly. Not do I think that my being blocked is warranted, nor possible considering the circumstances. Tao2911 (talk) 03:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Geronimo, thanks for your welcome to wiki. But thanks also for your orientating me to how to edit. Appreciate it!Jason Riverdale (talk) 04:35, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Geronimo, thanks for all your help. I don't understand what is meant by:

This file is missing evidence of permission. It has an author and source, but there is no proof that the author of the image or its subject (in the case of artwork) agreed to license the file under the given license. Please provide evidence of permission by either providing a link to a site with an explicit grant of permission that complies with the licensing policy or by forwarding email communication granting permission to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org.

If Devanagari108 does not respond in the next 24 hours I will call the Dawn Horse Press (their number is on their site) and inquire what they sent. Also maybe one more picture of a book of Adi da can be added.173.16.189.83 (talk) 00:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

If

Notification

Re: Conflicting image

Not at all, go ahead. Lothar the Terrible 11:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Admin renaming of images has been enabled again at en.Misplaced Pages. Do you still want me to move the guitar image to File:Stingray guitar.jpg for you?-gadfium 20:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Done. File:Stingray.jpg is now the image on the commons.-gadfium 20:58, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Feminazi

If you look at the the last sentence of the controversy section you'll see that it isn't supported by any of the three sources, which all relate to a single abortion rally. Soxwon (talk) 22:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Third Opinion

Could you please weigh in on this? http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Adi_Da&action=history

Goethean's final warning to him was as such: If you continue to remove well-sourced content from Adi Da, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. — goethean ॐ 00:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)Jason Riverdale (talk) 23:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Dear Geronimo, Thank you for your response and helping clarify the wiki policy. You all have a difficult job on your hands! I do understand that wiki is meant to have all sides weigh in on any given article. I do notice however that on the "other side of the fence" there is a strong tendency to insert very negative, derogatory and bias language to paint their point of view. Language and word choices do show bias and tend to lead the reader in a certain directions. For example "Messianic Proclamation" is the key issue with one of the editors whoi has strong feelings about Adi Da. He is obviously very negative on Adi Da. Why is it not ok to change the wording or heading here to "Adi Da's Proclamation of Divinity" as done by a pro Da editor.It states a fact that the non Da supporter intended and wanted the reader know this about Adi Da but without heavy bias. It is then up to the reader to decide what they feel about itby reading the content and references in that section. Creating controversy is not the issue. But adding language that is very bias and meant to attack or defame an individual to me should be addressed here as well. Does this make sense to you?Jason Riverdale (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

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GA Review

Hi Geronimo,

Would you take a look at the Adi Da article and see if any more references need to be cleaned up, and do a final review? I think we are getting ready to start the nomination process!--Devanagari108 (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

A question

Hi Geronimo, hope you are doing well. If I could pick your brains again, I just wanted to ask you if you know how I could ascertain how many subpages are currently in existence, and what they are, from the page Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Gastropods? I happened upon one just now that I didn't know existed. I want to put a list of them on the main page there, and delete any that are out of date or no longer relevant. Thanks a million, you are always so helpful. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 20:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome, it's nice to "see" you again. Invertzoo (talk) 22:32, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

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Barium sulphate nets

The recent article about barium sulfate nets was peer reviewed. You can't question the results in the BOF. You've had 15 years to test the nets and haven't. Bunningfan (talk) 01:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Centerpin fishing

Thank you so much for wikifying and improving this article. I'm about as familiar with fishing as I am with knitting, so it was a very pleasant surprise to check back in and see that someone had improved it so quickly. Well done. AniMate 07:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

If there was a bait and tackle barnstar, I'd likely give it to you. Sometimes Misplaced Pages doesn't work. Sometimes it does. Thanks again for making it work. AniMate 08:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

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How to get a random gastropod article?

Hi Geronimo,

Thanks to Snek we have a portal now . I have thought for a while that it would be great if we had the capability to just pull up a random article out of our nearly 6,000 articles in the Project. Do you happen to know how we could put that together? Best wishes to you and many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 15:00, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

GA Status for Adi Da Article

Hi Geronimo,

It seems that things have changed in the last few weeks with this article. I made edits and so have others, post consensus. I invited Tao to participate again in pointing out specifics of what he felt was not balanced in the article, but he gave a rather uncivil reply, so I am not sure what to do. I have asked all other editors to speak up and point out anything that could be balanced in terms of content, and so far no one has said anything, and there does not seem to be dispute amongst other editors.

I don't know what the steps are now in proceeding to GA Status. I am hoping you can help to clarify what we can do now, and what needs to be changed, etc. I am unsure and looking for your guidance here. I hope that we can still proceed with GA Status, as the content has not changed much at all since consensus, although there have been disputes. I have tried my best to remain civil and work with all editors here with real intention of creating balance and accepting criticism if I posted anything that was not NPOV. Much of this has been fixed as a result. I am aware that part of obtaining GA Status is that edits are not constantly being made and editors are not in dispute. Either way, I would like to get your input on this. Much appreciated.--Devanagari108 (talk) 21:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure, that sounds good. We will wait a few days then. Thanks for your earlier message too. Looks like the GA Review happened faster than expected. And yes, sometimes assuming good faith is an ego-transcending practice in and of itself!--Devanagari108 (talk) 06:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Things are looking rather stable. Perhaps you could go ahead do some final cleanup on the reference formatting? Seems okay to go ahead and re-submit after that. What do you think?--Devanagari108 (talk) 21:17, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Geronimo, Seems that there has been a consensus and agreement on the Adi Da article. How about re-submitting it for GA review. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jason Riverdale (talk • contribs) 15:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:WQA

I am not contesting the close of the thread I started there, since the abusive postings to my talk page have stopped, which was my primary goal. However, I would like to note two errors you made in your closing statements to the thread: (1) "Anyway, Kwamikagami ... has not responded here since his block expired," That is not true. He actually posted two of his three abusive comments here after his Wiktionary block expired. (2) You labelled me as "block happy", by comparing numbers of blocks. For a fair comparison, please tally the total number of blocks made on WP in the past 3.5 years then divide the total by 50, which is the approximate number of Wiktionary administrators. Then consider that not all Wiktionary admins patrol edits and not all are even active. Blocks on Wiktionary are performed by a very small group of people, so the total per person is much higher there than here. My blocks made on WP number less than 30. I would appreciate a correction of these errors to the closed thread.

You also imply that activities on another (non-WP) project are excuse and grounds for any action here, even if that action violates WP policies. That is a dangerous precedent to set. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:10, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

You are confusing Misplaced Pages with Wiktionary. Kwami may have a long editing history here, but not on wiktionary. He may be an administrator here, but he is not an administrator on Wiktionary. He may be familiar with policy and procedure here, but he is not familiar with policy and procedure on Wiktionary. Kwami's actions on Wiktionary seriously violated community practice, and other admins correctly pointed this out to him. Kwami has tried this before on Wiktionary, and has before been told that the content he changed had been accepted by vote. He has no defense for continuing to push his own view over the consensus of the Wiktionary community. He has no defense foe abusive language. I do not understand why you continue to defend his misbehavior.

Did you read my responses on to Kwami on my talk page? I opened a fair dialogue, and received abuse for it. I also asked him to keep Wiktionary issues on Wiktionary, and again received abuse. Under the circumstances, would you have conituned making an attempt to listen, if all that was being said was abusive?

I am sorry that you feel that the relationship between MW projects must be antagonistic. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:08, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

NZonscreen

Please stop reverting these links. There is already relevant discussion of the links taking place at AN. You should input there if you have something to say about them but changing them while discussion is underway is disruptive. ThemFromSpace 04:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I second this request. Xxanthippe (talk) 12:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC).

Me too. This edit has edit summary "restore to a little sanity" and restores an external link into the middle of an article. If the linked material is useful, it should be used as a reference, not dumped into the body. Johnuniq (talk) 14:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Sustainability

Are you really signing off from this page? It's no fun at all, but it is important and there are some principles at stake that need your support.--Travelplanner (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Geronimo, I have actually just submitted a paper for publication on sustainability - so I am definitely interested in the topic. I am working on Ecology right now and busy writing grant applications. However, I have looked at the sustainability page and have it listed in my next wikipedia project. Thanks for contacting me. Curious to know what you think of the Conservation Biology page?Thompsma (talk) 21:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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About portals

HI Geronimo, Greetings and I hope you are doing OK. If I may say so I feel that you are very intelligent indeed, an excellent writer, and I think you have a very good PR sense, and because I value your input very much, I wanted to ask you a basic question: what do you think a portal is supposed to be for? I have never been clear on this, and can't find much about it in the guidelines. I mean is it for general readers? Is it for editors? For both? Is it partly an advertisement for the subject matter? Of course I assume that being a "portal" it is supposed to be a place where you (as a reader) "enter" the subject, and which helps direct you to where you might need to go within the subject, right? Many thanks for any opinions you might have on these questions, best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 14:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Geronimo, I just wanted to say thanks for the fabulous analysis you did for me on the subject of portals! It was very helpful indeed and you answered questions I did not even know that I had! You rule! Best, Invertzoo (talk) 21:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Fishing industry

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Could you?

Geronimo20, Skip is driving us all batty, but Protonk is a good guy. He's got exams right now. Please be nice to him. It would be great if you could slightly reword your message on his talk page? Please? Thanks, LK (talk) 17:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, that last post back on ANI wasn't really great. But his behavior before that was just reflecting someone really busy and hassled in IRL you know. LK (talk) 01:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Is this ANI still open? Looks like it. I would have put in my two cents before but wanted to get in mediation which looks like it's died. His misbehavior on Representative money is my complaint, total POV misuse of sources, deleting WP:RS info in favor of WP:OR, etc. I would like to deal with it before trying to fix up article again. Unless he's changed his ways, of course :-) CarolMooreDC (talk) 15:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

The An/I sunk by Protonk is well dead, but you could still add your two cents to the current An/I. It's all grist to the mill. Skip has left a trail of discouraged editors in his wake, and I can't see anything short of arbitration working (if that works?) :/ --Geronimo20 (talk) 20:52, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Table help

Thanks

Nice thought Geronimo - we'll get there! Granitethighs 07:09, 27 October 2009 (UTC)