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Citing and article language

When references are used more than once, they are given a "ref name=article name" so that they are displayed up as "a,b,c ARTICLE" in the reference section to show that the same reference is being used more than once. Do not continue to revert to the improper style. Also, article needs more references to cite statements per guidelines WP:CITE. There are various usage of peacock words, especially in the opening paragraph. Please find reliable sources to back such statements. If you wish to remove the templates, find more sources and correct the language. Cheers, oncamera 03:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I read citations and fixed a few things but they are named now. This article has enough references for it not to be tagged as such. If you want to add more references by all means go ahead. Look at how many refs are in this article in comparison to other articles and they do not have a citation tag at the top.

As for twitter. It says "normally" but I've seen a lot of Wiki articles with Cyworld links as well so should those not be added either. How do find out a twitter account is verified? And I know his Twitter account is verified because I am a mod to a fan club of his so I know this information. Proof: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Colleen16 (talk) 04:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

The peacock thing, I did put links in the intro before but I removed them and placed them in the biography instead, because they were the same links as in the biography. I didn't want duplicate links in the intro. And like I said before those citation/reference tags should only be placed on article with less than 35 citations. This article doesn't qualify for such a tag. Colleen16 (talk) 04:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

No, it needs more references! In the section "Dispute With Mentor Entertainment" every sentence should have a reference. "Fan Meetings and Concerts" No references at all. "Sawasdee Khrab Photobook" Only has one reference. Etc, etc. You need references for each statement. Look at the length of this article; why doesn't it have more references? See an article like TVXQ for further example.

As for peacock words, verify claims such as: "As of 2007, Lee is one of the top screen stars in South Korea. Lee also became quite popular for his noble role as Ryung in the 2008 action, romance drama Iljimae" in the opening. How do we know he's "quite popular" and is a "top star" in South Korea? Find different statements that aren't opinions or find a way to verify those claims.

His twitter is irrelevant to this article. TWITTER has NOT even verified his account. Anyone could be masquerading in it; forum posts and blog posts are not reliable sources. Also, the account isn't active and has little significance, so why should it be allowed to break the WP:ELNO guideline? It shouldn't. If you would like, we can go about removing Cyworld links too.

Finally, I suggest rather than remove content you simply disagree with, you can work on improving the article. Check out WP:Ownership.

oncamera 14:06, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Colleen, why do you keep removing the Intersections link? It's a peer-reviewed journal article (a reliable source) about cute South Korean men which mentions Lee Jun Ki. --Malkinann (talk) 10:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I placed a link to that topic. It's in the Biography section, 2 paragraph, last few sentences the 8th link is the reference to it. I also didn't think it should be mentioned in the intro because it sounds so inappropriate. I'll put you link there, right next to the words 'pretty boy' is that alright? Colleen16 (talk) 10:19, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

If you feel it's inappropriate in the lead, the mention and the reference can be moved to a better point later in the article. --Malkinann (talk) 10:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not that feels that way but the actor himself. He has mentioned in the news and articles that he's tired of hearing that name being said in his name so that's why. Don't ask how I know these things, I'm apart of one of his fan clubs so get info. Anyway's I moved it down to the section I mentioned. It's beside "pretty boy image". Colleen16 (talk) 10:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

But the information the reference is beside doesn't actually appear in the Intersections article. :( --Malkinann (talk) 10:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't have to you know. The area that it is in is still similar to the content in your article isn't it? They both talk about his pretty boy image in the same movie. Colleen16 (talk) 10:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Um, no - when inline citations are used, an inline citation absolutely does have to be next to the content from that source. WP:CITE can tell you more about why this is important. --Malkinann (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah...what section am I reading Malkinann? Colleen16 (talk) 10:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Of WP:CITE? Misplaced Pages:Citing_sources#Inline_citations - "An inline citation should appear next to material that it supports". Doing this also helps the verifiability of the article, by making it easy for people to check what information came from which source. --Malkinann (talk) 11:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Intro, sections, etc

I removed certain information from the intro because I thought it sounded too much like an opinion, not a fact, and could not be reliably sourced. I also moved the information about his language skills and martial arts abilities further down since he is not really known for these things. Since the article is being more sourced, I will suggest using a Reference maker to make the references uniformed throughout the article. I will start moving the current references to this system. One final thing, I think his Biography section is a little long and could use more HEADERS to divide the article into a more organized manner. Once again, I removed the Twitter account because it hasn't been verified nor is it significant. Just because a certain editor here thinks they know everything being a fanclub member doesn't mean Misplaced Pages will accept that sort of of verification. Thanks, oncamera 16:30, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I went through copyedited, reformatted references, added fact/citation needed to places that should be sourced. Also removed/replaced references that cited blogs per WP:V. Removed "Fan Meetings and Concerts, Sawasdee Khrab Photobook" sections because they aren't significant and really only matter to a small percentage of people aka "Fancruft is a term sometimes used in Misplaced Pages to imply that a selection of content is of importance only to a small population of enthusiastic fans of the subject in question" via WP:Fancruft. If there was anything other editors find was important from those section, please find a way to write it into other parts of the articles. Those two sections should not go into such details as they are almost longer than his Career section. oncamera 18:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Because Lee Jun Ki is a living person, we have to get the article right, for his protection. --Malkinann (talk) 20:49, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

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