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Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory
I'm sorry, I have to delete the article per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory. I know, you are a good editor, and I have often agreed with you in the past, but I have to disagree with you now. If you still think that it is definitely notable and would like to work on it, I will be happy to send you the text of the page. — Sebastian 04:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for this extraordinarily courteous note Sebastian. You really went above and beyond. In light your kindness, I am willing to put off calling for you to be desysoped at least until the next time you delete something I want kept. :)
- I am a bit surprised at the outcome. The man and the busines seemed quite notable to me. You weren't swayed by the Chicago Sun-Times story about the company that said "The Surplus Record is known as the bible of the used and surplus capital equipment industry." Oh well, I guess it's not possible to "win them all". Thanks again for your exceptionally considerate and collegial approach, and for making the extra effort to notify me of the outcome, as well as for your other contributions. It's pretty freaking cool that we're writing an encyclopedia. I remember the ones we used to have on the shelf (actually my brother had them on his shelves... so unfair!). If you're willing and able to move it to my userspace, I'll be more than happy to reintroduce it to article space when you're not looking. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, to be honest, that was an oversight on my part. To tell you what happened: I thought the first paragraph of that post was the entire citation, and mistook the rest as just your personal opinion. What we can learn from this, other than that I need to learn how to read, is that less is often more. Of course I will gladly userfy the article, and I am sure that I won't have to look away when you reintroduce it. — Sebastian 05:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Please leave me a link so I know where it's at and can add it to the list I keep so i don't forget about it. Thanks again Sebastian. Truly your communicative and open approach is inspiring. :) That Basket of Puppies character must be having an influence around here! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of User:ChildofMidnight/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory. But I just realize we have a little problem. There are two redirect pages, which, according to process, should get speedily deleted: Thomas P. Scanlan and Surplus Record. I think I'll just do that, although it's somewhat silly. Remember to put them back, too. Thanks for your kind words! — Sebastian 06:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I improved it some and recreated. We'll see what happens. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of User:ChildofMidnight/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory. But I just realize we have a little problem. There are two redirect pages, which, according to process, should get speedily deleted: Thomas P. Scanlan and Surplus Record. I think I'll just do that, although it's somewhat silly. Remember to put them back, too. Thanks for your kind words! — Sebastian 06:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Please leave me a link so I know where it's at and can add it to the list I keep so i don't forget about it. Thanks again Sebastian. Truly your communicative and open approach is inspiring. :) That Basket of Puppies character must be having an influence around here! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, to be honest, that was an oversight on my part. To tell you what happened: I thought the first paragraph of that post was the entire citation, and mistook the rest as just your personal opinion. What we can learn from this, other than that I need to learn how to read, is that less is often more. Of course I will gladly userfy the article, and I am sure that I won't have to look away when you reintroduce it. — Sebastian 05:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
"In space, no one can hear you scream..."
Geoff 20:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm speechless. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- CoM, this guy came out of nowhere yesterday and now has a stunning 32 points on the table for the cup. This guy is going to be a really tough opponent. ;)--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 21:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- And since Drmies refuses to cook Calf's Liver with Bacon, I'm trying to nerve myself up to cook it myself so I can create and post a pic he can use for his article. Geoff 23:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Geoff, I admire you immensely. I'm trying to be a strong man, but I find the mere thought of that dish revolting, and my wife would never allow me to cook it. Good for you! Enjoy! Drmies (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Don't do it Geoff. It's not worth it! ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I see no harm. The competition is heating up after all. It just means that the rest of us need to get the points jamming to keep up. ;)--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- He's on 36 points now by the way. He's on FIRE!--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I see no harm. The competition is heating up after all. It just means that the rest of us need to get the points jamming to keep up. ;)--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Just out of curiousity, are you going to report all your contributions at the very last minute to surprise everyone from behind?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, I'll try to do them as I go along. I don't think I've done any yet. It should perhaps be noted that Drmies has several sandboxes full of bacon... ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Mmmm. Drmies's Sandboxes. Tasty. Hey, would you like to be the official reporter for the event. You know, write a weekly report on how the content is coming along, how the points are stacking up, that sort of thing?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- The advantage of getting reports in early is that nobody is able to start/extend upload the same content before you and get the points instead.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Everyone will be pleased to know that I never win anything, so fear not! Geoff 01:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe we can rotate the reports, whoever is leading gets to answer a set of questions on their progress and the progress of the event? I hesitate to be in charge of anything and my sense of humor is very rarely appreciated. But we can discuss it further. And Geoff would be a fabulous commentator and I'm happy to support him taking on that role! ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, I'll try to do them as I go along. I don't think I've done any yet. It should perhaps be noted that Drmies has several sandboxes full of bacon... ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. I've asked him. I might also prepare some questions for him later.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 04:13, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps a short set of questions for whoever the leader is that can be asked Monday's or even every other Monday. "as the current leader of the race for the Bacon WikiCup, can you give us an update on how the contest is going so far?" etc. Just an idea. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done on his talk page.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 05:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps a short set of questions for whoever the leader is that can be asked Monday's or even every other Monday. "as the current leader of the race for the Bacon WikiCup, can you give us an update on how the contest is going so far?" etc. Just an idea. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- If I don't have to eat everything I find (or fix), I'm good for it (urrp! - pardon me!) Now, back to chasing that calf so I can start on cooking Calf Liver and Bacon... Geoff 15:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Speaking of screaming, so far, the only suitably licensed photo I have found for 'fakon' is this much too busy photo which includes a couple of Morningstar Veggie Bacon Strips. (Some of the non-free photos are frightening.) I sure hate to think I might have to buy some just to photograph it, so I guess I'll wait to see if any vegans are attracted to a bacon-themed contest. Somehow, the prospect seems unlikely. Geoff 19:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I kind of like that photo actually. Gives some interesting context both culinary and sociocultural. I'm not sure if it will look too small to make out the details, but I think it would be okay. Better than nothing anyway. I reiterate my opposition to your preparing a feast of bacon and liver, and I also oppose the buying, making and eating of fakon. Some endeavors are just too extreme and dangerous to be taken on so lightly. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:39, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, OK. I cropped it so the "fakon" stands out a bit more. I'll have to take your advice about the liver and bacon - the calf runs like crazy everytime I get near it. I suppose it's the axe or something. Geoff 21:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like the original one too. Can you upload it also? It's a good illustration of a vegetarian breakfast and is interesting. It could be croppeda little up to the edge of the bananas and the m in Times if you want to go all out. :) I created a fakon article, but forgot to do it in userspace... Oops. It's LIVE! Unless someone deletes it... ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Go here for the archived full version, if that helps. Geoff 23:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like the original one too. Can you upload it also? It's a good illustration of a vegetarian breakfast and is interesting. It could be croppeda little up to the edge of the bananas and the m in Times if you want to go all out. :) I created a fakon article, but forgot to do it in userspace... Oops. It's LIVE! Unless someone deletes it... ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Re:Image question
Basically, yeah, if an image is removed it's often sort of lost- that's why Commons is useful for galleries and categories. If the image is non-free and is removed, it will be deleted fairly quickly, but free ones will typically languish indefinitely. It'd be easy to do a database query to find all orphaned free images, I would imagine, but that's not something I'm good at... Was there something in particular you wanted to do, or were you just curious? J Milburn (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I believe ShakespeareFan00 (talk · contribs) works through them sometimes, tagging them to be sent to Commons. I'm sure someone will do it... J Milburn (talk) 16:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
No problem
Sorry, I've been away for a while and haven't really been responding to anything on here. Anyway, as long as the info (on the donuts) is useful, then I'm glad I could help. I also saw something about "healthy bacon" recipes, too, but I don't know how that would fit in with your bacon drive... I'll have to dig it back up for you in case you thought it might be of interest and would fit in somewhere ;-) Cheers, Shymian (talk) 09:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Bloodring
I assume you were trying to tweak for clarity. Thanks for that. However you introduced inaccuracies. I've corrected them. LadyofShalott 18:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Gulp. Uh oh. Sorry about that. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I was confused where it said "where her own kind live (both as prison and sanctuary) because of the telepathy that threatened to drive her insane." I thought that meant that she was living with other telepathics. But I see that the Enclave is a place where other Mages live (her own kind) and she moved away to hide among humans? There are a few bits in there that still seem a bit confusing to me as someone unfamiliar with the book. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's right. Clearer now? What is still confusing? If I can make it better I will. LadyofShalott 19:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- You probably saw I trimmed the bit about the world ending in an unexpected way. I couldn't find any explanation and it didn't seem like an appropriate cliff hanger, though enticing... If it's important and worth noting I think some explanation is needed. BUt if it is a spoiler I'm fine with leaving it out.
- I also had trouble with some of the terminology used. Is the term neomage a neologism? I think some explanation of what that means would be helpful. Also, is the world in the book Earth? A planet like earth? There are humans, but I couldn't quite tell for sure who was who and where they were and what they were up to. :) The telepathic bit noting that other mages aren't telepathic and that everyone would kill her if they knew part seems like it could be rewritten or broken up a bit some how. It's kind of lumpy and confusing. Maybe chronological? And then I guess part of my trouble with that part goes back to the context and background issue of where this is taking place, what the Enclave is, what their relation to humans is, and also what seraphs are, but I see that's linked so maybe it doesn't need to be explained.
- I'm trying to figure out the demographics and geography a bit, :) maybe a sentence or two of background would help? Or does that give away too much? I don't work much on this kind of plot summary or on fiction articles much, so that may be why I'm having difficulty. And I don't know what a stone mage is.
- I hope you don't feel that I'm being critical. It sounds like a very intersting book. I meant to read Clan of the Cave Bear (which I think is the same fantasy genre?) a while back, but never got around to it. So... I made this part small because Clan of the Cave Bear is described as historical fiction. SO I obviously don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I thought it was fantasy, but of course I did say I hadn't read the book. the closest I get is magical realism. Oh I did read something by that famous sci-fi woman writer whose name I can't think of at the moment, but that's not really fantasy either, I don't think. The Black Cauldron was one of my favorites as youngster, what genre is that? Arthurian legend or medieval fantasy or something I guess. What other books are in the neo mage series? Are they by this author or different authors? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's right. Clearer now? What is still confusing? If I can make it better I will. LadyofShalott 19:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I was confused where it said "where her own kind live (both as prison and sanctuary) because of the telepathy that threatened to drive her insane." I thought that meant that she was living with other telepathics. But I see that the Enclave is a place where other Mages live (her own kind) and she moved away to hide among humans? There are a few bits in there that still seem a bit confusing to me as someone unfamiliar with the book. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm surprised there is no article on jewelry making or jewelry makers. Isn't that a pretty notable profession and craft? I guess it's just covered in the jewelry article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh wait, there is one. Off to do redirects... It needs expansion and photos. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- (ec) No, these sound like reasonable questions. I think I have just taken care of end not being quite as expected bit - see what you think about the line I just added to the lead. It is earth, in the not-too distant future. I'll add something to clarify that. There are currently three books in the series, all by FH: Seraphs is the second, and the infobox reflects that fact; Host is the third. Giving away too much... I think the general consensus is we aren't really supposed to worry about that. :) Of course, I haven't told the ending of the book, which does not really fit our guidelines. If you ever feel like reading it, I do recommend it. LadyofShalott 19:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about the ECs. :) I was trying not to edit the article itself since I figured you would be doing stuff there. I don't know what the MOS is on infoboxes and including that content in the text (I was reverted including height and weight of a football player in the article body...), but I think it's okay and a good idea to duplicate the information. Since there isn't, yet, an article on the series it would be nice to mention some information on the series, like how many books there are in it. The other way to go would be to merge this article into one on the whole series and then start adding info about the other books in it...
- I am also still hoping for a sentence or two on the demographics and geography (the layout so to speak). I'm not sure if you're doing that now... I'll go have a look. :) Are you into the vampire phenomenon: True Blood, the movie that's out and all? Is it worth noting where the name "bloodring" comes from? Also, I hate to nitpick, but some citations to reviews and such would be good... ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- (ec) No, these sound like reasonable questions. I think I have just taken care of end not being quite as expected bit - see what you think about the line I just added to the lead. It is earth, in the not-too distant future. I'll add something to clarify that. There are currently three books in the series, all by FH: Seraphs is the second, and the infobox reflects that fact; Host is the third. Giving away too much... I think the general consensus is we aren't really supposed to worry about that. :) Of course, I haven't told the ending of the book, which does not really fit our guidelines. If you ever feel like reading it, I do recommend it. LadyofShalott 19:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
That looks a lot better to me. I think an article on the series is the way to go. If it becomes unwieldy, articles on the books can always be broken out. An article on the Romantic Times would also be interesting. Despite the claims that "everything has been covered", I'm always overwhelmed by how much there is to work on. Thanks for letting me "help" with the article. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC) A link for mage to Magician (paranormal) (a practitioner of paranormal magic) or Magician (fantasy) (a practitioner of magic as portrayed in works of fiction) would be good. A short description of her powers might be good too. I know it's alluded to later with the stone mage mention. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I'll have to look at those magician links and see which is more appropriate. I'm amazed that Romantic Times is a redlink - it should definitely get "blued". This will take some time to get into shape, but I think your comments and questions are helping - thanks. Oh, and to your earlier sideline question, yes I enjoy vampire (and various related sorts of characters) fiction. Actually, I was introduced to Faith Hunter's work when Kim Harrison introduced her on her yahoo group just before Bloodring came out. I've only watched one episode of True Blood, but I've read all of Charlaine Harris's books upon which the tv series is based. LadyofShalott 20:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Incidentally, Faith's newer series is about a skinwalker who hunts vampires. LadyofShalott 20:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
New Mail
You have new mail at user talk:morning277 reference Ricky Dobbs. Morning277 (talk) 01:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
RfA thankspam
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Hello, ChildofMidnight! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice. KV5 (Talk • Phils) |
Tuna
Check this out. Drmies (talk) 03:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Silly. Reminds me of the whole "foam" fad. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Re: Interview comment at User talk:Glane23
I was thinking about creating a seperate space for interviews but because we've only had one interview so far, I've just added it to the bottom User:Sky Attacker/Bacon WikiCup 2010. Do you think it would be good to put all the interviews on the Bacon Challenge page? I just think, by the end, we would have enough to have a single page or two for the interviews by themselves. Your thoughts?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 04:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Where it is now looks good. I think putting a link to it each time there is new one from the bacon challenge talk page is fine. I made a section and put a link there already for this one. Seems cool. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
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Danish Bacon
Have you or anyone else started Danish Bacon? I got some from the shop last week and cooked it. I took a photo while it was cooking. It could be used in the article.
.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 21:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Done Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
check this out--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 22:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the redirect, Child! Drmies (talk) 00:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Since you don't have a U.S. politician topic ban.....
Maybe (or maybe not) you might like to create an article on this. Grundle2600 (talk) 22:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- It seems interesting. I'm not sure if it's article worthy. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for responding. Grundle2600 (talk) 16:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Good job and a question
Two things. Number 1, good job with that article (you now have your first 5 points on the table). Secondly, I notice people are automatically uploading articles to the mainspace. Are we still having a grand debut next year?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 01:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just messed up. There should still be enough grease March 1 to clog Misplaced Pages's servers. It's unclear whether veggie bacon is bacon anyway. :) Don't worry. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:01, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. In regards to creating bacon articles I wonder...--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- We are still having a grand debut, but some users would not like to have their pages sitting in their sandboxes for months to come, as by then someone else may create the article, and perhaps other problems I cannot think of (see User_talk:ChildofMidnight/Bacon_Challenge_2010#Bad_idea for discussion). Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's why I did it for Zeeuws spek - look what happened to The Lady? I have held the photos, but they are posted to Commons, per my usual practice, in addition to the Bacon WikiCup page, and anyway, those are intended for contestants to use for their articles or to illustrate existing articles. Geoff 13:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- We are still having a grand debut, but some users would not like to have their pages sitting in their sandboxes for months to come, as by then someone else may create the article, and perhaps other problems I cannot think of (see User_talk:ChildofMidnight/Bacon_Challenge_2010#Bad_idea for discussion). Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. In regards to creating bacon articles I wonder...--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Smultring
Ref: Smultring
Hi TorSch. I saw your edit comment that Smultring are not doughnuts and I was wondering what you meant by that. If you can reply on my page it makes it easier for me not to miss it, but I will try to watch here. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, being a Norwegian I am well used to the Smultring. And as a current visitor in Kentucky, I'm also got used to the American Donuts. Though I should not deny the two are related, it is simply NOT the same thing. But for reasons of convenience we translate the smultring into donuts because they have at least some things in common. Did you ever taste a Norwegian smultring? Or - did you ever taste the latin-American link between the two, the Churro? The taste of the smultring is in the dough, and in the lard it's cooked in, while I find the donut to taste of the frosting or glace they are covered in.
- But mostly, my comment was made because in your wikipedia the two have got separate articles, which makes it easy for me to pick the interwiki connector. Just like a car is a car, a Ferrari is a Ferrari. --TorSch (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
sega Dreamcast
Hi there. The Sega Dreamcast picture is currently a valued picture candidate. Can you please go there and cast yur vote ASAP? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Badushah
Here's a pic for the article you have trouble deciding what to do with. -SpacemanSpiff 03:46, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
User:Sky Attacker/Broadbent's
Would you be happy to work with me on this one? You must know how notable they are, it is surprising the apparent lack of coverage that they have for award-winning producers of fine country meats. I went through the first ten pages or so of a Google search but I had a hard time finding anything good. Do you have good access to newspapers or something that could be used to cite their awards? Cheers.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 07:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the talk page; I'll put some links up there. Drmies (talk) 19:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Didn't catch those links in my search - strange. I was almost going to give up altogether with these guys but I knew they deserved an article, as notable as they are. Cheers.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 23:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try to help out when I have some time. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Didn't catch those links in my search - strange. I was almost going to give up altogether with these guys but I knew they deserved an article, as notable as they are. Cheers.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 23:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
yak bak
You have a message from the Lady at User_talk:Drmies#Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Two challenges at one time (bacon and doughnuts) are enough for me. Of course there are obvious synergies with chocolate. On the other hand, I'm not sure a cabal or contest is needed for chocolate, as it's already widely popular. LoS should have gotten to the Vosges subject matter sooner... (see below). Is chocolate as esoteric and scholarly as bacon and doughnuts? It seems fairly mainstream to me, so perhaps a Chocolate Project would be the way to go? 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
The dude was white!
Porque Madonna! Drmies (talk) 18:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- This reminds of a Chappelle's Show bit... ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
M.W.D.
I've gotten the article draft Here as far as I could take it with all the reference sources I could find. I've asked Karanacs talk to come take a look and leave me notes on the article's discussion page Here. I need your input/advise on where I need to make adjusments. Can you leave your notes Here to for me to follow. Tinkermen (talk) 18:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Question
Have you tried a bacon-flavored chocolate bar before? Do they taste any good?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't tried it or chocolate covered bacon. But I think Drmies may have. The User:Sky Attacker/Vosges (chocolatier) article looks quite interesting. I would be interested in someone trying them and reporting on the various flavors. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Numbering of hooks
Oops, my bad, I see what is meant now. Hope you are doing well. No worries, Cirt (talk) 19:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- No problem Cirt. I feel bad that's it's a little bit confusing with all the sections, but I hope people are enjoying the "challenge". I'm sort of awed by the level of interest. I was going to make a section for hooks that are nommed before March 1, but you beat me to it. Thanks. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh no probs. Yea, it's been a lot of fun, I've learned a lot in the process of researching the three new articles I created so far. :P Cirt (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Those books give a whole new meaning to the phrase "light reading". ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, indeed. Cirt (talk) 20:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Those books give a whole new meaning to the phrase "light reading". ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh no probs. Yea, it's been a lot of fun, I've learned a lot in the process of researching the three new articles I created so far. :P Cirt (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
23
Yeah I'm pretty sure the post season counts, I think they all own the record. These sources: all say 23, Harridges Air Force bio says 22, but that could be a mistake. Hope this helps.--Yankees10 21:17, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Everett Phipps Babcock
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Vegetarian bacon...
Who would eat such a thing? Soxwon (talk) 04:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- ...Your questions seems to be unanswerable. :) It doesn't look appetizing to me personally, but I suppose it's a case of different strokes for different folks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Yo ho ho
ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
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- Thanks. I'm excited for winter solstice. After that the days get longer. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Winter solstice + Bacon = Hogswatch LadyofShalott 20:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Wow! I thought you were just being punny. That's a real thing? I find it hard to read that content because there are so many strange words I've never heard of. I will have to try to comprehend what it's all about later when I can give the subject proper attention. Thanks for the note. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- "Real"? Not exactly, that is in the very, very parodic world known as Discworld, a series of extrememely funny novels by Terry Pratchett. (So it is punny, but I can take no credit for it.) Hogfather is the particularly relevant book in the series. LadyofShalott 23:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh I see. It all seemed very unfamiliar to me, which makes sense now that I know it is part of a fanstasy storyline. I thought it was some sort of Wicca enterprise. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I like crafty witches of all sorts, from Martha Stewart, Judd Apatow and Joy Behar to Bobby Brown AND Whitney Houston. She's on Oprah right now. But the conversation is too heavy duty for me. I just want to hear her sing. I'm not saying those people are part of Wicca, but they do seem to me to be crafty witches. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- "Real"? Not exactly, that is in the very, very parodic world known as Discworld, a series of extrememely funny novels by Terry Pratchett. (So it is punny, but I can take no credit for it.) Hogfather is the particularly relevant book in the series. LadyofShalott 23:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Wow! I thought you were just being punny. That's a real thing? I find it hard to read that content because there are so many strange words I've never heard of. I will have to try to comprehend what it's all about later when I can give the subject proper attention. Thanks for the note. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Winter solstice + Bacon = Hogswatch LadyofShalott 20:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Yam
I just came across this, and thought perhaps you could use it as an example in a food-related article of some sort. Not sure what the title would be. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- That same thing happened to a friend of mine, except the resulting root vegetable was a rutabaga. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for that perfectly titled heads up
I think it ended pretty good for a barfight. :-) (Feel free to invent a barnstar for me. lol) ... Hmmm, I smell bacon. Excellent. Proofreader77 (talk) 21:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Meanwhile outside the saloon, someone's tying a loop
FYI: ANI -- Proofreader77 (talk) 20:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice. Apparently it was too much to expect those trying to ban me from the ANI board to actually notify me of the discussion. C'est la vie. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:31, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Doesn't look like it'll happen anyway. But you might want to read the comments anyway, even the 'oppose' ones - there's no question that you should try and check your ANI interaction, if only to avoid drama. ALI 20:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good point. I will do so. At the same time it should be noted that there are serious problems here that are worth pointing out. Mob rule and intolerance are very dangerous. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Doesn't look like it'll happen anyway. But you might want to read the comments anyway, even the 'oppose' ones - there's no question that you should try and check your ANI interaction, if only to avoid drama. ALI 20:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh, god no. Now it's all going to hell. Listen: When you do big, impressive stuff like this, it makes it impossible for everyone who agrees with you to keep being sympathetic.
To put it another way, let me tell you a real story. Back in the '70s or '80s this guy burned an American flag in protest to what the government was doing. So Congress tried to pass a ban on flag-burning. A whole bunch of people were against the ban, because it violated ideas of free speech, expression, etc. But during this whole time, the guy who had burned the flag was telling the press about how America was corrupt and the government was evil, and that made it hard for anyone to support him.
I don't have time to expand now, but do you see a relation? You shouldn't get up and yell at Misplaced Pages and at the community, it makes you look bad. ALI 21:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- The thread seeking to have me banned from ANI was started by RD232 after I disagreed with his indefinite block of another editor. The block was based on complaints from those who disagree with an editor's political perspectives and content interests. It was also made based on an accurate but imperfect edit to the Diane Francis article, and imposed after the ensuing dispute was long over. The ANI thread showed that there was a clear consensus that the issue was resolved.
- Those who don't like that editor or their opinions frequently dredge up old issues as a justifcation for out of process enforcement actions. I don't believe that sort of admin tool abuse is appropriate, and I am disgusted by the hounding and intimidation attempts that go on here. Collegial discussion should always be the first option.
- The fact that the very same admin who unilaterally blocked a good faith contributor against consensus then started a new ANI thread trying to ban me from ANI discussions after I disagreed with their behavior only serves to prove how power crazed some admins have become. Unfortunately, they're not the only ones on Misplaced Pages suffering from a Napolean complex type infirmity.
- I understand that people get upset when someone has the audacity to disagree with them, but as long as everyone respects consensus and abides by our policies there shouldn't be a problem.
- As far as flags go, defacing U.S. currency is illegal, so perhaps burning of the flag should also be. But now I'm just playing devil's advocate. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:15, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Okay, so you probably don't know me from a hole in the wall, so take what I'm about to say with a grain of whatever: I wouldn't have banned you from AN/I...but when I saw that !vote go up I must admit I thought about supporting. Here's why I didn't: The points you raise are sometimes very good, and you sometimes provide a needed contrarian opinion. Also, you tend to stand up for the little guy, which is a cause near to my own heart. HOWEVER: here's why I had to think about supporting for even a moment: Your points, even the good ones (sometimes ESPECIALLY the good ones) are couched in hyperbolic, practically purple prose, and too often your defenses come off sounding like rants. It's hugely offputting for the people who WANT to agree with you, and just consolidates the poor opinion your detractors already have. Your words would be so much more valuable (or perhaps, "valued") if you just turned down the adjectives by about 95%. Stop seeing corruption where all there is is bumbling, incomplete knowledge, inexperience; stop seeing malice when all there is is marginal dumbassery. Seriously. I think it would serve you very, very well. (But as I said--grain of whatever.) GJC 23:05, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I think Gladys's words here are very worthy of your attention, CoM. LadyofShalott 23:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. She stated her case very well. I would like to point out that there is wp:drama and then there's drama. If we acknowledge that it's wrong to yell fire in a crowded theater, that doesn't preclude shouting "fire" and pointing it out when someone is trying to start one and burn the place down, does it? I try to maintain a sense of humor in this madhouse. While a softer touch and less sarcasm might be helpful to my cause, I find it difficult not to call out the the aggressive behavior, incivility and lack of courtesy. And I don't know a better way to expose the hypocrisy for what it is than to hold it up to the light. I'm only human. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- As an ANI lurker that only knows you by seeing your comments there, I also agree with GJC's comment. (Ah, the "someone is trying to start and burn the place down" analogy is also one of those hyperboles that you should avoid, FYI, in case you thought that it was an adequate and moderate analogy. Idem for saying that people are fascists that are burning books) --Enric Naval (talk) 00:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should take the time to actually look into the issues being discussed instead of commenting based on your first impressions after "seeing" my comments. I'm sorry that you don't care for metaphors. I find them amusing, interesting and (occasionally) insightful. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I myself am a fan of metaphors; unfortunately I was trying to write while wrapping things up at work, and couldn't find an agreeable (or even a relevantly-disagreeable) way to metaphorize your AN/I posts. The closest I could get was something like "a small nugget of caramel wrapped in thirty-seven layers of overcooked cabbage", or something of that ilk. It involved candy, vegetables, and the notion of something good being wrapped in something barely-tolerable, and all things considered I think it's best that I wasn't able to concentrate. :) GJC 01:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should take the time to actually look into the issues being discussed instead of commenting based on your first impressions after "seeing" my comments. I'm sorry that you don't care for metaphors. I find them amusing, interesting and (occasionally) insightful. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- As an ANI lurker that only knows you by seeing your comments there, I also agree with GJC's comment. (Ah, the "someone is trying to start and burn the place down" analogy is also one of those hyperboles that you should avoid, FYI, in case you thought that it was an adequate and moderate analogy. Idem for saying that people are fascists that are burning books) --Enric Naval (talk) 00:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. She stated her case very well. I would like to point out that there is wp:drama and then there's drama. If we acknowledge that it's wrong to yell fire in a crowded theater, that doesn't preclude shouting "fire" and pointing it out when someone is trying to start one and burn the place down, does it? I try to maintain a sense of humor in this madhouse. While a softer touch and less sarcasm might be helpful to my cause, I find it difficult not to call out the the aggressive behavior, incivility and lack of courtesy. And I don't know a better way to expose the hypocrisy for what it is than to hold it up to the light. I'm only human. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Jeez, glad to see that daft AN/I block proposal canned. Adults are needed there, whether or not the children agree. --Malleus Fatuorum 00:17, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I assume you are referring to the ban proposed by RD232 and the other problem editors, and not my quite reasonable counterproposal. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
CoM you are not made out of asbestos, imo a lot of editors want you to be permanently blocked, take care not to give them the opportunity as the wiki would be a colder place without you. Off2riorob (talk) 00:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Please don't use inflammatory rhetoric. See above. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- heh. funny. :) Rd232 00:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I try. Actually, I think "incendiary" might have been a better and less ambiguous word to use instead of inflammatory (too much swelling, not enough heat). But at least I didn't run hot and cold the way Off2rio did. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- heh. funny. :) Rd232 00:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- (ec)Precisely why I made the ANI ban proposal. If CoM could tone things down a bit (per GJC), and generally assume good faith, then his contributions at ANI can be helpful. But ANI is a dispute resolution forum and too often his comments have a broader agenda of fighting The Man rather than resolving the dispute at hand. This approach serves no-one, including the editors to whose defence he is notionally coming. In this instance, encouraging Grundle to think he's done nothing wrong substantially diminishes the likelihood of an unblock. Overall, a voluntary break from these fora, for a longer period, would do CoM good. Focus on content for a while, and try not to hold grudges or assume the worst of people. Rd232 00:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Your idea of an appropriate resolution to a dispute and mine may differ greatly. I don't see blocking good faith contributors, after those in dispute with them over content issues complain, as helpful to the encyclopedia. Meditiation and collegial collaboration seems a far better approach to me. I frequently have disagreements, sometimes fierce, with all manner of editors. But as long as they're interested in improving the encyclopedia and its article content (as I am), and willing to abide by our policies, the differences can usually be worked through. When individuals seek enforcement action as a means to winning a content dispute, that's a very problematic approach that does enormous damage to our community and to the Neutral Point of View we aspire to attain. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- You don't seem to appreciate the gravity of the particular incident - there's a reason it's in the BLP log. If it had been merely another synth violation, in a long line of synth violations and misuse of sources, it would have been different. If you want to discuss the actual incident and whether it, in combination with the history, merits an indefinite block, or some other length block, or something else, or nothing - then ANI is the place. The content and manner of your contributions on this issue have hindered rather than helped a substantive discussion on that, which is to Grundle's detriment more than anyone else's. Rd232 01:05, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I made a concerted effort to refocus the discussion on the edit in question and the fact that the dispute was effectively resolved. I was trying to keep it all in perspective, while you were the one who issued an indefinite block unilaterally despite the consensus that the dispute was resolved. You then proceeded to dredge up an editor's history in a way that smeared him and inflamed the situation for effect (in support of your block). So I think you're pointing the finger in the wrong direction. If you try to work with Grundle I think you will find him to be one of the most collegial and friendly editors we have. He does a great deal of first rate content work (unlike many of the other participants in that discussion). He also has a great sense of humor, although his playfulness does get him trouble now and again. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:15, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Since my earlier comment I changed my position to... CoM you are not made out of asbestos, imo you have upset a lot of editors, stop causing trouble.Off2riorob (talk) 02:05, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Have you followed the Arb elections at all? I wonder how those discussions went and if anything interesting came of them? Who do you think will win? I think it's supposed to be announced soon... Hal and I voted, but given the secret process and voting format, I found participating beyond that too taxing. I suspect other editors felt the same way. Segregating discussion from the voting seemed like an awfully bad idea to me, but no worse that secret voting in a community where transparency and openness are valuable commodities. I mostly went by which usernames I liked the best. Have you seen my voting guide? It was pretty helpful. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I voted, exciting stuff, the votes are being counted, they are in turmoil. I can't wait for the results. Sorry for messing round with my comment. Off2riorob (talk) 02:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I missed your voting guide, I voted for a couple of people I saw doing good work and I looked at the comments and questions and voted, It is an exciting time in an organization when elections are held and power changes hands. Off2riorob (talk) 02:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Have you followed the Arb elections at all? I wonder how those discussions went and if anything interesting came of them? Who do you think will win? I think it's supposed to be announced soon... Hal and I voted, but given the secret process and voting format, I found participating beyond that too taxing. I suspect other editors felt the same way. Segregating discussion from the voting seemed like an awfully bad idea to me, but no worse that secret voting in a community where transparency and openness are valuable commodities. I mostly went by which usernames I liked the best. Have you seen my voting guide? It was pretty helpful. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Since my earlier comment I changed my position to... CoM you are not made out of asbestos, imo you have upset a lot of editors, stop causing trouble.Off2riorob (talk) 02:05, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I made a concerted effort to refocus the discussion on the edit in question and the fact that the dispute was effectively resolved. I was trying to keep it all in perspective, while you were the one who issued an indefinite block unilaterally despite the consensus that the dispute was resolved. You then proceeded to dredge up an editor's history in a way that smeared him and inflamed the situation for effect (in support of your block). So I think you're pointing the finger in the wrong direction. If you try to work with Grundle I think you will find him to be one of the most collegial and friendly editors we have. He does a great deal of first rate content work (unlike many of the other participants in that discussion). He also has a great sense of humor, although his playfulness does get him trouble now and again. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:15, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- You don't seem to appreciate the gravity of the particular incident - there's a reason it's in the BLP log. If it had been merely another synth violation, in a long line of synth violations and misuse of sources, it would have been different. If you want to discuss the actual incident and whether it, in combination with the history, merits an indefinite block, or some other length block, or something else, or nothing - then ANI is the place. The content and manner of your contributions on this issue have hindered rather than helped a substantive discussion on that, which is to Grundle's detriment more than anyone else's. Rd232 01:05, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Your idea of an appropriate resolution to a dispute and mine may differ greatly. I don't see blocking good faith contributors, after those in dispute with them over content issues complain, as helpful to the encyclopedia. Meditiation and collegial collaboration seems a far better approach to me. I frequently have disagreements, sometimes fierce, with all manner of editors. But as long as they're interested in improving the encyclopedia and its article content (as I am), and willing to abide by our policies, the differences can usually be worked through. When individuals seek enforcement action as a means to winning a content dispute, that's a very problematic approach that does enormous damage to our community and to the Neutral Point of View we aspire to attain. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Alt.robot
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The Barnstar of Integrity | |
| For balancing the scales amidst the flames. Proofreader77 (talk) 21:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC) |
- Proof, can you create a barnstar for fanning the flames? matic 02:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've been meaning to design one more personalized for CoM. This one surely fits ... but I'll see if full iconic representation of all facets can be achieved. :-) Proofreader77 (talk) 03:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Awarding me with a Nobel prize is premature at this point, although you might be able to justify giving me one based on the promise held out by future article contributions that I may make to Misplaced Pages. What is this Alt. robot thing? First it's automated secret ballots for Arbcons and now this. Hal, you can't control me!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- By your command. -- 6.5+6.6 (aka Proofreader77 (talk) 19:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
- I think you mean 6? There are many numbered entities, not all of them regenerated clones. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- (note: both 6's above are separately linked, genetically mixed, implications of .5 and .6? Indeterminate.^^) Proofreader77 (talk) 19:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- My apologies for the system malfunction. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- (Single-letter/numeral links easy to miss - enhanced visual signal processing upgrade available ;-) Proofreader77 (talk) 20:20, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- My apologies for the system malfunction. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- (note: both 6's above are separately linked, genetically mixed, implications of .5 and .6? Indeterminate.^^) Proofreader77 (talk) 19:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I think you mean 6? There are many numbered entities, not all of them regenerated clones. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- By your command. -- 6.5+6.6 (aka Proofreader77 (talk) 19:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
- Awarding me with a Nobel prize is premature at this point, although you might be able to justify giving me one based on the promise held out by future article contributions that I may make to Misplaced Pages. What is this Alt. robot thing? First it's automated secret ballots for Arbcons and now this. Hal, you can't control me!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've been meaning to design one more personalized for CoM. This one surely fits ... but I'll see if full iconic representation of all facets can be achieved. :-) Proofreader77 (talk) 03:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Play house?
Not really my kind of an article, but you might want to use some of the refs I found, and expand Bhatukali (game)? cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 20:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles for deletion nomination of Ambrose J. Russell
I have nominated Ambrose J. Russell, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ambrose J. Russell. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
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- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo... Really? Why do people keep trying to delete these architects? Every Southpark episode, but no somewhat well known builders? What would Ayn Rand say? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- She would have shrugged. But you've got to admit, architects aren't as notable as Pokemon characters. -SpacemanSpiff 23:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- They aren't trying to delete the architect, they are trying to delete the article!--kelapstick (talk) 23:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Tell it to Vladimír Clementis (see also Book of Laughter and Forgetting and Politics of memory. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- You like Kundera?? -SpacemanSpiff 01:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- The two question marks are throwing me off. Do you not like Kundera??? I like the story where all that's left of a politician is his hat after a photo has been altered. His other work is okay, but a bit romantic and light weight (get it... light weight...?) for me. Have you read his work? It's been a while for me. I also enjoyed some of Tom Robbins. But my favs are Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Salman Rushdie and Joseph Conrad. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not a big fan of Kundera, the only reason I read Book of Laughter and Forgetting and The Unbearable Lightness of Being is because the girl was really cute, and I had to speed read before the next date! I figured the Rushdie part, I do enjoy his works. Been putting off reading Marquez though. -SpacemanSpiff 04:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Speaking of banana republics, I think historical fiction can be truer in many ways than historical writings. :) Who do you read Spiff? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Of late, I've given Indian authors an undue share of my reading list. I've pretty much completed Rushdie and Narayan, and have been avoiding Nirad C. Chaudhuri, but been low on Mulk Raj Anand and Anita Desai so read a few of theirs. Finally managed to complete Alexander McCall Smith and most of Bill Bryson. Just starting on The Woman Who Walked into Doors now, given my reading history this year, I expect this to be a bit "heavy". But I agree with you on historical fiction, did you read Recalcitrance? ;) I loved The Motorcycle Diaries, although it isn't exactly historical fiction. -SpacemanSpiff 05:36, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Naipaul has some interesting stuff. Maybe a bit erudite though? Parmoedya Ananta Toer is Indonesia's Rushdie. I'll have to check out the walking into doors thing. I'm not familiar with Chaudhuri. And for some reason I get Narayan and Anand confused. But since helping with your article, I know Narayan is the one who tells parable type fables about a fictional town. What does Anand write about? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Of late, I've given Indian authors an undue share of my reading list. I've pretty much completed Rushdie and Narayan, and have been avoiding Nirad C. Chaudhuri, but been low on Mulk Raj Anand and Anita Desai so read a few of theirs. Finally managed to complete Alexander McCall Smith and most of Bill Bryson. Just starting on The Woman Who Walked into Doors now, given my reading history this year, I expect this to be a bit "heavy". But I agree with you on historical fiction, did you read Recalcitrance? ;) I loved The Motorcycle Diaries, although it isn't exactly historical fiction. -SpacemanSpiff 05:36, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Speaking of banana republics, I think historical fiction can be truer in many ways than historical writings. :) Who do you read Spiff? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not a big fan of Kundera, the only reason I read Book of Laughter and Forgetting and The Unbearable Lightness of Being is because the girl was really cute, and I had to speed read before the next date! I figured the Rushdie part, I do enjoy his works. Been putting off reading Marquez though. -SpacemanSpiff 04:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- The two question marks are throwing me off. Do you not like Kundera??? I like the story where all that's left of a politician is his hat after a photo has been altered. His other work is okay, but a bit romantic and light weight (get it... light weight...?) for me. Have you read his work? It's been a while for me. I also enjoyed some of Tom Robbins. But my favs are Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Salman Rushdie and Joseph Conrad. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- You like Kundera?? -SpacemanSpiff 01:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Tell it to Vladimír Clementis (see also Book of Laughter and Forgetting and Politics of memory. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- They aren't trying to delete the architect, they are trying to delete the article!--kelapstick (talk) 23:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
<--I'm a bit low on Naipaul, only read two so far. Choudhary tends to be more of an apologetic Indian in his writings, sometimes it's a bit difficult to say if he's being sardonic or real; I've read The Autobiography of an Unknown Indian and A Passage to England, good prose, but not really captivating storytelling IMO, but critics generally disagree with me on this. Anand is a rich socialist, was required during his times in India. Coolie (book) and Untouchable (book) are both very powerful. I've added the OCLC to all the book stubs I've created so far, so you should be able to check if they're at your local library. I'd rather start with Narayan, very simple writing, although some of the prose might read a bit odd to an American, start with Malgudi Days (book) which happens to be Jhumpa Lahiri's favorite. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 06:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Where are the Misplaced Pages plot summaries (Cliff Notes) versions when I need them??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for resolving that thread
I'm sure it was bad idea for me to go to AN/I but I just felt baited. That said I know I need to keep cool and seek more productive dispute resolution processes than jumping over to AN/I. I appreciate the level headed approach.PelleSmith (talk) 01:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Good luck. It may not stay resolved, but don't get flummoxed by all the warnings and poking. It's nothing personal and we're all human here. Well, most of us anyway. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Inna Gilmore
I guess it would depend on whether this person has released any albums. I can't tell whether or not she has. Badagnani (talk) 01:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Bacon in popular culture
Hiya, I had created the template {{Bacon}}, and a deletion discussion for it was recently closed as Keep. However, before that, the "popular culture" section in it was removed . Do you think such a section might merit inclusion in the template? On a wider note, should the bacon content-drive perhaps suggest a few popular culture related articles to create/expand? Cheers, Cirt (talk) 09:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I try to avoid "popular culture", at least in so far as avoiding those words, because there is so much antagonism towards that type of subject and I don't like to waste my time working on content that is likely to be targeted for deletion. Is there alternative wording that can be used? Bacon in culture? I don't know... I think the role bacon has taken on in popular culture and the way it's been featured and used to symbolize certain lifestyle choices and food interests is well worth covering. Of all the articles I've worked on, the bacon mania article is the one that gets noted in the media (a lot). So clearly it's a notable subject of interest. Sorry for the rambling answer. I think there is some ambiguity with what would be included, but I support the concept. Was that section removed to make the template more palatable during the AfD? I have no objection to putting it back. Does it make the template too big? Should there be a separate category or template for those article subjects instead? ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- "Portrayal in visual media" has a very uppity and selective feel to it. -SpacemanSpiff 18:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like "bacon culture", but it does have a certain cultic feel to it, and I think Cirt is opposed to alternative worship groupings of that type? Gladys made a comment using cabbage as a metaphor and I can't get the image of the What's Happening where they join a cult that worships something like "the life mother" as embodied in a head of cabbage. Pretty classic. It's sad that there aren't shows like that and Good Times on any more. I did a google search and the first hit I got was . Go figure! It didn't help that I spelled Rerun wrong... Here's someone else discussing it . I'm not mentioning this to comment one way or another on paganism, new religion, or any other controversial subject. It was just interesting to me how these random threads connected. Please don't try and peel this
onioncabbage.ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like "bacon culture", but it does have a certain cultic feel to it, and I think Cirt is opposed to alternative worship groupings of that type? Gladys made a comment using cabbage as a metaphor and I can't get the image of the What's Happening where they join a cult that worships something like "the life mother" as embodied in a head of cabbage. Pretty classic. It's sad that there aren't shows like that and Good Times on any more. I did a google search and the first hit I got was . Go figure! It didn't help that I spelled Rerun wrong... Here's someone else discussing it . I'm not mentioning this to comment one way or another on paganism, new religion, or any other controversial subject. It was just interesting to me how these random threads connected. Please don't try and peel this
- "Portrayal in visual media" has a very uppity and selective feel to it. -SpacemanSpiff 18:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I did not mean creating a new article Bacon in popular culture, though that might be fun at some point, but I was rather referring to possibly simply improving other side articles within that general sphere. Fictional books, movies, television shows, directly having to do with bacon, etc. Thoughts? Cirt (talk) 22:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I was trying to address the idea of a popular culture section in the bacon template. Sorry if I got a bit far afield. I suffer from ADDHD&D ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I meant that if enough articles were improved, such a section could be warranted, and if not, not. :P Cirt (talk) 23:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I meant to tell you that I enjoyed you BC2010 interview. That's a neat feature that "The Legendary" Sky Attacker developed. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, thank you! Yes, I have got to get going on creating that new Freedom of speech-related article I wanted to start, so I can get back to bacon articles! :P Cirt (talk) 23:42, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I meant to tell you that I enjoyed you BC2010 interview. That's a neat feature that "The Legendary" Sky Attacker developed. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I meant that if enough articles were improved, such a section could be warranted, and if not, not. :P Cirt (talk) 23:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
RE:Doughnuts
I'm not an expert in this field, but my ma' always knew how to make those. Here's a pic of Fritule: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Fritule(miske).JPG You basically mix together 2 eggs, 2 cups of flour, some sugar, a cup of youghurt, vanilin sugar, citrus peel and cut apples. YOu can also add some rum. Then just round them and fry in deep oil until they're golden. Sprinkle with sugar afterwards. They're really simple to make and are delicious. Istarski cukarini are basically regular tea biscuits, but are round and you dip them in rakia and after that, sugar. I don't really know what these other things are, sorry. Want me to edit the stubs on these topics? Hope I helped!
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Vitkogames (talk) 17:43, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Personnalité politiques, crimes, and passion
I just realized that this comment I left is apparently in an archived thread on ANI so you might not see it, but it was a direct reply to a question you were asking and not getting an answer to so I just wanted to draw your attention to it. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 19:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed response. I find it a lot more pleasant to discuss article issues and content than to constantly have to deal with the smears and innuendo. You got into the latter a little bit, but I know it's sometimes hard to exercise restraint on that front.
- I don't see anything in the Craig scandal article that can't be covered in the main article. He was arrested and charged with soliciting gay sex in a public bathroom. He pleaded guilty. Other allegations were made about similar behaviors. He said he would resign. He changed his mind. He tried to revoke his plea and was unsuccessful.
- Paragraphs like "At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. ... The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area. Craig then proceeded to swipe his left hand under the stall divider several times, with the palm of his hand facing upward." Seem utterly ridiculous to me.
- To compare Ted Kennedy's manslaughter followed by his fleeing the scene to a conviction for down low action seems absurd. That there are articles on other scandals doesn't answer the issue of how salacious details are included for some subjects, but not for others. Nor does it address how they the content that does exist is written, weighted, how those subjects are linked, and what kind of content is included.
- I'm no Larry Craig fan, and like Grundle I tend to favor inclusion when in doubt (he supports keeping the Craig article) but the point is that lots of subjects that have been reliably covered and discussed aren't included anywhere, let alone with independent articles going into great detail. So if people want to keep that article it's fine with me, it could still use some clean up, but your failure to recognize the double standards and hypocrisy doesn't impress me much.
- A politician's connections and involvement with a convicted felon have also been covered extensively. Relations to a preacher of hate have been well documented. How are those issues covered and included? None are so blind as those who refuse to see. And those issues when they occur with politicians are public concerns directly relevant to notability and political influence, not salacious personal impropriety being used to flog someone who isn't popular among the liberal media and leftist radicals like yourself. Stop the censorship, the bullying, the abuse and distortion of policies and let's start improving the encyclopedia together. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'll ignore the stuff at the end and respond just on content. I don't want you to fall afoul your (nearly expired) restrictions so probably you should not reply directly to this first bit that I say, but I would point out in response to your allusions above that we have an entire article on the Jeremiah Wright controversy and that it is mentioned in the Barack Obama article along with a link to the main article on the controversy (I'm really not sure what more would be needed in terms of adding info to the bio—it mainly came in the context of the Democratic primary and is discussed there, though I would argue it should probably also be talked about briefly in this article, which it currently is not). Likewise Tony Rezko and his connections to Obama are mentioned in Barack Obama, and they are covered extensively here. We could probably have a whole article about those connections and I doubt I would object to it (though I'd say it's of minor importance, the lack of such an article is hardly a major lacuna in Misplaced Pages), and there might be a way to better word the current mention in the main bio article on Obama. You might not even remember or know this, but I've never objected to discussing these issues in the main Obama article, so you're sort of talking to the wrong person here. Again though, you should probably wait a week before responding directly to this point!
- Beyond that, you don't offer any examples of "double standards and hypocrisy," so I cannot really respond. I certainly agree that what Teddy Kennedy did in 1972 was vastly worse (and more notable) than what Larry Craig did in the Minneapolis airport (I don't think the police should even waste time going after that kind of behavior), my point was just that a number of scandals involving Democrats/liberals have been covered (also there are not splitoff articles for every GOP Senate scandal—I see no full article discussing this, for example). Again, I genuinely do not see what the double standard is, and you are not providing any specifics, rather you just mention that there is some kind of censoring going on without offering any evidence at all.
- There definitely are changes that could be made to the Larry Craig scandal article to improve it (maybe the language from the police report does not need to be there, although it is from the police report and does describe exactly what happened, which is fairly relevant), but the fact that an article needs work obviously does not mean that the topic is not worthy of encyclopedic coverage. Speaking from the perspective of someone who does history, I think the article fails to discuss the most interesting aspects of the scandal, which have basically nothing to do with Craig as an individual. Somewhat like the Mark Foley scandal, the issue with Craig led to a wide-ranging discussion/debate about a host of issues relevant to sexuality and American politics in the early 21st century: the pressure felt by public officials to remain "in the closet" (whether or not Craig actually is in the closet) despite increased acceptance of homosexuality in American society, down low culture and behavior, questions in the gay community about how to deal with/feel about closeted public officials who pursue policies felt to be anti-gay (cf. the so-called "Frank Rule}, and the attitudes of the American electorate (particularly cultural conservatives) toward homosexuality and the impact it has on their voting behavior, among others. Eventually there will probably be decent scholarship on reactions to the Craig incident and what that tells us about American culture and society circa 2007, and that's exactly the kind of stuff we would most want in an encyclopedia article. Obviously the Craig scandal received a lot of coverage because it was titillating, but there were deeper, more interesting currents at work. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 22:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- How do you know I'm not alluding to John McCain, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Frank Keating? Or Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and Marc Rich? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Please spare me the transparently absurd coyness C of M. You and I both know damn well who and what you are talking about when you say "A politician's connections and involvement with a convicted felon have also been covered extensively. Relations to a preacher of hate have been well documented. How are those issues covered and included?" Months ago you brought the issue up repeatedly with respect to the sitting American president, whereas I'd bet a good amount of money you can't cite one diff in all your time here where you ever complained that this wasn't up to snuff, or that it was not sufficiently mentioned here. I took the time to try to address the issue you were raising with those three sentences, just as I took the time to try to address the concern you mentioned on ANI. You say you just want to talk about content, but when I make an effort to actually do that with you all I get in reply is the howler of a comment you dropped just now and nothing whatsoever of substance. I spent a decent amount of time typing up the above responses in an effort to discuss the issues you claimed to want to discuss (if you're so concerned about the Larry Craig, why are you ignoring the two paragraphs I just wrote regarding that?), but I guess I was a sucker to even bother trying.
- How do you know I'm not alluding to John McCain, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Frank Keating? Or Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and Marc Rich? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- There definitely are changes that could be made to the Larry Craig scandal article to improve it (maybe the language from the police report does not need to be there, although it is from the police report and does describe exactly what happened, which is fairly relevant), but the fact that an article needs work obviously does not mean that the topic is not worthy of encyclopedic coverage. Speaking from the perspective of someone who does history, I think the article fails to discuss the most interesting aspects of the scandal, which have basically nothing to do with Craig as an individual. Somewhat like the Mark Foley scandal, the issue with Craig led to a wide-ranging discussion/debate about a host of issues relevant to sexuality and American politics in the early 21st century: the pressure felt by public officials to remain "in the closet" (whether or not Craig actually is in the closet) despite increased acceptance of homosexuality in American society, down low culture and behavior, questions in the gay community about how to deal with/feel about closeted public officials who pursue policies felt to be anti-gay (cf. the so-called "Frank Rule}, and the attitudes of the American electorate (particularly cultural conservatives) toward homosexuality and the impact it has on their voting behavior, among others. Eventually there will probably be decent scholarship on reactions to the Craig incident and what that tells us about American culture and society circa 2007, and that's exactly the kind of stuff we would most want in an encyclopedia article. Obviously the Craig scandal received a lot of coverage because it was titillating, but there were deeper, more interesting currents at work. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 22:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Now, I beg you, please don't waste either your time or mine by again trying to claim your comment was somehow about our lack of encyclopedic coverage of Bill Clinton's "relations" with Jesse Jackson. If you actually want to reply to the substance of what I wrote above then by all means do so. I take issue with some of the things you do around here, but I'm fairly certain it's beneath you to blatantly misrepresent what you said after the fact, so I'll assume your previous comment was the ill-advised product of a fit of pique or general silliness and something that in hindsight you'd rather retract. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 01:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- The point is that I posted generally about issues that could apply to various politicians. It's called a hypothetical that I made general for good reason. Yes it could certainly be a reference to the current president, just as it could refer to other politicians. If you take offense at my pointing that out that's your problem. But please save me your self righteous bullshit. You've been a party to clear Arbcom violations on your talkpage, you've been one of the most aggressive intimidators and bullies going after editors who don't share your editing interest and far left political perspectives, and you haven't made any effort to edit collegially and cooperatively with me. As you well know I can't discuss certain topics, in part because of your failure to be helpful and unbiased in mediating disputes between myself (a good faith editor seeking accurate well balanced articles) and the POV pushing trolls camped out on various articles. So don't come here with your snide attacks and arrogance. I'm not interested in your dishonest claims, the record speaks for itself. If you're going to come here with a bunch of coy baiting, innuendo and attacks don't waste my time. You've never expressed any interest in dicussing article content and refused to help me with content I tried to have addressed. Don't be a phoney on my talk page like I'm stupid. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- I was discussing article content with you above (I thought) so it's strange to say that I have no interest in discussing that with you. Other than mentioning the bacon challenge thing to me on my talk page I don't recall offers by you to work with me on content, but that's fine and I certainly could be forgetting something. I know back in the spring/early summer I invited you to work on expanding the Obama article on several occassions, for example in this section of my talk archive, where I said, on May 12th, timestamp 01:51 "If you have specific suggestions for improving the article I remain open to them but I just have not seen any recently (it's entirely possible I missed something). I'm actually going to propose some expansion of the presidency section soon, as I've already done, so maybe we can work on that." You never took me up on that offer (and this was weeks before the ArbCom case concluded), but I think the offer rather belies your claim that I've "never expressed any interest in discussing article content and refused to help me with content I tried to have addressed."
- The point is that I posted generally about issues that could apply to various politicians. It's called a hypothetical that I made general for good reason. Yes it could certainly be a reference to the current president, just as it could refer to other politicians. If you take offense at my pointing that out that's your problem. But please save me your self righteous bullshit. You've been a party to clear Arbcom violations on your talkpage, you've been one of the most aggressive intimidators and bullies going after editors who don't share your editing interest and far left political perspectives, and you haven't made any effort to edit collegially and cooperatively with me. As you well know I can't discuss certain topics, in part because of your failure to be helpful and unbiased in mediating disputes between myself (a good faith editor seeking accurate well balanced articles) and the POV pushing trolls camped out on various articles. So don't come here with your snide attacks and arrogance. I'm not interested in your dishonest claims, the record speaks for itself. If you're going to come here with a bunch of coy baiting, innuendo and attacks don't waste my time. You've never expressed any interest in dicussing article content and refused to help me with content I tried to have addressed. Don't be a phoney on my talk page like I'm stupid. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Now, I beg you, please don't waste either your time or mine by again trying to claim your comment was somehow about our lack of encyclopedic coverage of Bill Clinton's "relations" with Jesse Jackson. If you actually want to reply to the substance of what I wrote above then by all means do so. I take issue with some of the things you do around here, but I'm fairly certain it's beneath you to blatantly misrepresent what you said after the fact, so I'll assume your previous comment was the ill-advised product of a fit of pique or general silliness and something that in hindsight you'd rather retract. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 01:33, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how I went so quickly from offering a "thoughtful and detailed response" (your first comment here) to acting like a "phoney" coming "here with a bunch of coy baiting, innuendo and attacks." You again ignored the substance of my comments about Craig, which is exactly what you said you wanted to discuss on ANI.
- I am not responsible for your ArbCom sanctions—only you and ArbCom get the blame for that. When you refer to "dishonest claims" and "the record" I literally have no idea what you are talking about.
- Finally, and most importantly, I've asked you this multiple times before but I will ask again—can you please stop launching into personal attacks against contributors to this web site, particularly when you provide no evidence for the claims? As per usual I won't reply to your inaccurate characterizations of my behavior that lack supporting information, but to call me an "aggressive intimidator" and a "bully" is a pretty clear violation of WP:CIV. It is made worse when you offer no evidence to back up these claims, and unfortunately this is very much par for the course for you in my view. Your tendency to lash out at other editors, make outlandish accusations, call for desysops at the drop of a hat, etc. has provoked concern among some in the community in the past, for example in the recent discussion here. Can you make an effort to work on this problem, i.e. to hold back on personal attacks and blanket accusations, particularly when you provide no evidence that the other editor in question has misbehaved or violated community norms? I'll take a lack of a direct reply to be a "no," but I'd appreciate it if you could give a meaningful response, ideally leaving aside your specific complaints about me for the moment and speaking more generally to the issue of your comments about other editors with whom you take some issue. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 02:36, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
YouTube celebrity
Didn't it have it's own page at one time? Or was it a generic name?--kelapstick (talk) 21:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- YouTube fame? Are you planning something? Does it involve bacon? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's what it was! I knew I remembered something. No I'm not planning anything, I don't have time to write articles, and yet have created two in the last few days (so little time that I asked Bongo to hook up The Sunless City)....argh, darn you Misplaced Pages!--kelapstick (talk) 23:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I saw you were really digging into some mining articles. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not so much lately, but I did create Nanisivik Naval Facility, which is tangently mining related. I've stood where they are going to put it, but the water was frozen...--kelapstick (talk) 23:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I thought Doc was the Russian spy... Hmmmm... ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not so much lately, but I did create Nanisivik Naval Facility, which is tangently mining related. I've stood where they are going to put it, but the water was frozen...--kelapstick (talk) 23:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I saw you were really digging into some mining articles. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's what it was! I knew I remembered something. No I'm not planning anything, I don't have time to write articles, and yet have created two in the last few days (so little time that I asked Bongo to hook up The Sunless City)....argh, darn you Misplaced Pages!--kelapstick (talk) 23:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Alert.
Misplaced Pages:The Great Misplaced Pages Dramaout/2nd--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 01:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- I saw that Sky, looks good. I hope they weed out the silly objections this time. No one is compelled to participate. I don't know if you saw, but I mentioned to Cirt that I enjoyed reading the interview you put up. Thanks for doing that. Of course I don't want to be interviewed myself. But I nominate Doc, and SpinningSpark (do I have that right?) who have been doing some great work in that subject area. :) In fact, they're discussing some sort of Iphone bacon cooking application that they found. Seems a little sick to me. :) I'm more into the "Double Down" that is supposedly on offer at some KFC restaurants. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:58, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- We'll wait and see how this week goes and I'll make a decision on who to interview. It will probably be Drmies though, considering that he's currently 4th (I've already interviwed the leading 2, and 3rd is myself, unless you wanted to interview me or something). By Cirt's suggestion I have tried to get the Bacon WikiCup recognized by the Misplaced Pages Signpost. Haven't had any response so far though.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you look further up on that talk page you'll see I posted there also. I got a laugh. So that was satisfying. I think there may be a reluctance to cover something lighthearted like the BC2010, but we'll see. How is the Baconator article coming? Last I checked it needed reliable sources... ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:12, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Since my last edit to it, I've paid probably no attention to it at all. I might go back to it later to make it better. By the way, the Bacon Deluxe is actually different to the baconater.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you look further up on that talk page you'll see I posted there also. I got a laugh. So that was satisfying. I think there may be a reluctance to cover something lighthearted like the BC2010, but we'll see. How is the Baconator article coming? Last I checked it needed reliable sources... ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:12, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- We'll wait and see how this week goes and I'll make a decision on who to interview. It will probably be Drmies though, considering that he's currently 4th (I've already interviwed the leading 2, and 3rd is myself, unless you wanted to interview me or something). By Cirt's suggestion I have tried to get the Bacon WikiCup recognized by the Misplaced Pages Signpost. Haven't had any response so far though.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:08, 16 December 2009 (UTC)