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Lifted, cool

Hi Proof, congratulations on the lifting of the restrictions . I am grateful for your tweaking on my talkpage, are you any good with archives, I have been attempting to alter mine, it is almost correct but when I press show I still don't see all my archives but they are there..as a model I have been attempting to set up the same situation as Jimbo has on his talkpage, it you have time have a look and see if I can improve just a little, that red link seems incorrect or perhaps I can not combine all my archives from my old bot to my new bot? At least I didn't blow them up..Off2riorob (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:49, 27 December 2009.

Thanks, Off2riorob. ... About archives, I have to add the links manually myself, so I clearly haven't solved the problem yet. But I can add yours manually, too. NOTE: My problem had to do with manually coding in underscore, I think. The bot should be smart enough to do this by itself ... .BUT I do see that at ANI etc and elsewhere, people have put in redlinks ahead of the bot, so perhaps we're not the only ones confused. :-) Proofreader77 —Preceding undated comment added 02:45, 28 December 2009.

(Timestamp for bot) Proofreader77 18:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Flagged revisions - how it works in German wikipedia

Hi Proofreader, you asked on my German talkpage about my experiences with flagged revisions in the German wikipedia. Well, they are positive. Visible vandalism decreases. How it works? Anyone can make changes, but changes become visible to anyone when accorded by a trusted editor (Sichter). Otto (talk) 09:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, Otto. I can understand the idea of one person making a change that does not become visible until a Sichter accepts the change ...

BUT what if five people made changes (to the same paragraph) that were not visible? I would presume they are editing a copy of the currently published version, but their changes are made not knowing the changes the other of the five have made. How would the software and the Sichter determine how the edits of the five take effect (if they were conflicting).

LoL Yes, that is probably a very rare situation, but I know of highly contentious articles where certain paragraphs might well have several pending (conflicting) changes — and I find it hard to imagine what the Sichter would be looking at when they accept the edits.

But perhaps I'm thinking too hard. When flagged revisions finally (?!?!?) implemented on .en Misplaced Pages I will understand much better. (But I do know that some of the software programmers for Misplaced Pages have voiced concerns about how confusing the editing window for flagged revisions is).

But perhaps it will be as straightforward here as it has been in Germany. Again, many thanks for your response.

-- Proofreader77 10:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

There are no such conflicts because when editing, you always edit the current, possibly "unsighted" revision. The "sighted" revision is just what is shown by default (to anons and users who have not changed their preferences). Anyone can always click on "Entwurf" (draft) and see the "unsighted" version. --Tokikake (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

And thank you, Tokikake. So there is a "Entwurf" (draft) tab(?) to see the "unsighted" version ...

Question 1: When an editor who is not a Sichter clicks the edit tab (whatever that is called in German), is it true they would automatically be editing the "Entwurf" version ... and wouldn't that be confusing to new editors who would expect to be editing the version they had (by default) just been looking at (the "sighted" revision)?

Question 2 When the Sichter reviews (?) the page in order to make the Entwurf version the sighted version ... (a) does the Sichter see all the changes that have been made clearly highlighted (in red?) ... and (b) if there are multiple changes that have been made to the draft/Entwurf version, can the Sichter approve just some of the changes (and how does the Sichter choose which ones to OK) ... OR is it "all or nothing"?

Note: I can imagine why some programmers for en. Misplaced Pages were complaining the interface was not easy to understand. But you are telling me it is straightforward (and I do not doubt that is true for you). In any case, my sincere thanks for your perspective.
-- Proofreader77 11:37, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Proofreader77, I happened to be passing by here because I appreciated the sentiment of your CoM RfC poem. ;-) I work on the German side as well and like the system very much. Here is how it goes. If an article has last been edited by a user without sighting privilege, an extra "Draft" tab appears right next to the "Article" tab, and the label on the "Edit" tab changes to "Edit draft". What users see when they go to the page depends on whether they are logged in with a user ID or not:

• A logged-in Misplaced Pages user will see the Draft tab version displayed, not the article tab version. Next to the article title, it will say "Unsighted version".
• An IP user will see the sighted version on the Article tab displayed. In the top right of their window, it will say "sighted" (and there is also a hyperlink they can use to go see the current draft version).

Anyone (Wikipedian or IP) who clicks "Edit draft" sees the diff between the last sighted version and the current draft version displayed above the edit box, just like you do here when you get an edit conflict on a page. To see what this looks like, here are a couple of pages which (at the time of writing) have drafts with unsighted changes: Try looking at, and editing these pages, both logged in, and logged out; that will give you a feel for it. ("Entwurf" = Draft.) Another useful thing is that if one of the pages in your watchlist has an unsighted change to it, the page will appear with a red exclamation mark next to it in your watchlist, as well as a "sight" hyperlink. Clicking on "sight" displays the diff between the current draft and the last sighted version, and if the changes are good, you can "sight" them, after which they become part of the article and the draft tab disappears until the next user without sighting privilege makes a change.

If a Wikipedian edits the draft and some changes in the diff display are not good, they just delete them in the edit window, keep the good changes, and save. As they save this new version, the kept changes are automatically sighted. --JN466 22:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Bless you, JN! And thank you for pleasant noise about the CoM sonnet ... Excuse my slow reply — sonnets generate high overhead. :-)

I am now studying the wonderfully presented information above, and experimenting. When I've got the hang of it, I'll reply some more. Again, my most sincere thanks — this is exactly what I needed to know. Cheers. Proofreader77 01:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Follow-up: @JN ... I'm still not clear about the case where there are several edits to be reviewed. It seems to show you one diff with all the intermediate revisions for example, one intermediate revision here.

Question: Does the Sichter see something differently in terms of reviewing the changes? What I'm asking is, how can they OK individual changes, rather than all the changes at once (which is what it looks like to me). Note: I presume I'm not a Sichter. LoL
--Proofreader77 05:24, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

A sighter sees the same diff that you saw. If they don't like some of the changes shown in the diff, they have to go into the edit box and manually take them out. Once they save, the version they save is sighted. It is only ever article versions that are sighted; not individual edits. Sighted article versions are shown to the outside world.

Of course, in many cases, there will only have been a single edit made to the article when the sighter comes to it. If that edit was good, the sighter can just sight the new article version without editing the text at all. This is kind of like "sighting" or, to talk English, approving an individual edit. But even in that case it is really the new article version that is marked as "sighted".

Sighting just means, a Wikipedian has looked at this article version and certifies that it does not contain any gross vandalism or BLP violations. The number of edits that led to that version is immaterial.

Sighting privilege is relatively easy to get on the German Misplaced Pages and is no big deal. It is granted on the basis of a user having made bona fide contributions. It can be withdrawn from users who vandalise articles and is not given to accounts that have only just registered. --JN466 16:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you again, Jayen466, I think I've got it. And the "it" I've got ... still leaves me with concerns about the case of several edits having been made to the draft before a Sichter comes to sight/review it.

I understand I may be constructing cases that don't happen very often, but I am pondering the case where someone comes and edits the draft ... making perhaps ten good edits in the draft version ... THEN perhaps a vandal comes and makes several junk edits that are scattered about the page.

Then I consider what would happen if I was a Sichter coming by ... with let's say 20 intermediate edits to be sighted, but I cannot believe many Sichters would attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff (manually clean up the bad edits) ... but would rather simply revert all the changes (good and bad) rather than try to weed out the problems.

COMMENT/QUESTION: RC patrol is so much simpler in terms of one-edit-to-consider at a time. But let me ask the question this way: Question: Does German Misplaced Pages still have WP:Recent changes patrol (and do you have any insights about how that works with Flagged revisions).

Last question: ) Has vandalism nearly disappeared since flagged revisions have been in implemented in German Misplaced Pages? -- Proofreader77 00:23, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

The "20 intermediate edits" scenario really doesn't happen very often. I had trouble finding any articles with unsighted changes at all, to give here as examples. Here is the German Recent Changes page: . Articles requiring sighting are marked by a red exclamation mark; I believe recent changes patrollers do that job too. As a Wikipedian, you see the draft versions by default, so it really feels just the same as before. But as a member of the public, you are clearly spared a lot of garbage. The vandalism still happens, but the public does not see it. --JN466 04:58, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Again, bless you, JN. It seems I'm thinking too hard. (I tend to plan for "the worst case scenario," no matter how low the probability — which is somewhat worthwhile if you might be eaten by a great white shark, but perhaps less so if it's just the possibility of multiple intermediate edits in a draft/sighted version of an article. :-) Proofreader77 05:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom logo design challenge (hotter than bacon!)

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• More to come? ... Proofreader77 04:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

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ArbCom logo design challenge commentary/discussion

• Obviously there should be a chili cookoff for the awards banquette. The hotter the recipe the better. Beer donations welcome! :-) Proofreader77 23:59, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

  Dang it, I keep burning my beans while watching my watchlist. LoL Proofreader77 00:01, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Pedantic note: A "banquet" is a posh eating event. A "banquette" is an item of fortification or furniture. PhGustaf (talk) 02:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

No, "pedantic" is wonderful — I've learned something fascinating (to me) ... So, I've left my ignorance on display, but added wikilinks. Thank you, PhGustaf! Proofreader77 03:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

• Glad to see your OK-Corral selection added, too, Off2riorob. I was thinking about adding myself. :-) Proofreader77 23:45, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Count up

Less than two and a half days to go and all is well. Off2riorob (talk) 19:03, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

You're kidding — surely it's only been one (very-long) day since the block. :-) Proofreader77 19:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

What does Off2rio mean by "and all is well"? ABF that could have negative connotations and as an endosement of the status quo. But knowing what a decent fellow he is I understand it to be encouraging. :) I look forward to your being "Free at last". ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:30, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of "free at last" ... FYI: SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL (Documentary) - FREEDOM RIDERS - Stanley Nelson’s film re 1961 civil-rights activists. -- Proofreader77 21:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

All is well, Proof is here talking to me and CoM and there appears to be no problems, imo even if he was free to edit other pages, he could not be more involved than he is now.. Off2riorob (talk) 22:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Hear hear! :-) Proofreader77 23:07, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Glad to see you are almost back with us. Good thing you didn't donate more money, you might have been blocked for a month. Trusilver 00:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Trusilver. Interesting you should bring up "more money." Just consider that the 1st of my 3 recent blocks ... was triggered by me talking about getting my bank to donate $1 million. Surely the category "banned for all eternity" would have been created if I had hadn't been blocked and undone. (You think I'm kidding, don't you? Nope. LoL) Proofreader77 00:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Ha ha, Proof, hilarious, ask Trusilver to unblock you, you have had enough cake. Off2riorob (talk) 01:38, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh no, Off2, I'm enjoying the cake! LoL (And happily working on ArbCom logo. :-) Proofreader77 01:49, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Length

How long are sonnets supposed to be? Are they part of epics? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

14 lines per sonnet ... But there exist sonnet sequences (several sonnets written to go together in series, AND there are even novels in sonnets) ... And yes, although it is not usually how people think of them, you can imagine a sonnet sequence being an epic (of sorts).

For an idea of how that would work ... check out the first link in my sonnet series pudding-girl {zero}

(And if you want to practice writing your own, I wrote an online program to verify Shakespearean sonnet form. Click the license plate at one of sites artistofideas.com. But if you do, let me know... I've been lazy about updating the vocabulary dictionary etc ... And the monkey-bot surely needs more bananas.:-) -- Proofreader77 21:43, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. They can also be part of plays? I'm eager for more of your storytelling. Is there progress on the Western? Epic accounts of Misplaced Pages odysseys? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

1. Storytelling - Delighted by your interest. Thank you.

2. re Sonnets as part of plays?
   Note that Romeo and Juliet begins with a sonnet ... and see the sonnet Romeo and Juliet speak together in their flirting (I think there is more).
3. re Misplaced Pages Western (musical) ... Consider all that is happening as "flavoring" for the chili. :-) Note, this is a long-stewing chili .. which will be very tasty when served.
4. PS ... Do you see the little line codes beside each line of "Midnight Comes" sonnet? Notice the first number is "001" ... That is in case there are, um, like 153 or so more sonnets about Child of Midnight. Perhaps the epic tale of ChildofMidnight! (Perhaps you will write it.)

-- Proofreader77 23:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Please be mindful that featuring in art works is very likely to increase my vanity and pig-headedness beyond exising monumental proportions. Please don't undermine my efforts to remain humble! Also, I'm uncomfortable playing a lead and I'd be much happier to be cast in a supporting role, perhaps as a misguided agitator who doesn't "make it" to the end of the storyline? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

I will leave sonnets CoM.#002-154 to you, then. Proofreader77 21:34, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

notes re (the mostly unreferenced) Sonnet article

• "Lyric poetry" is not the general case. The form of the sonnet is rhetorical. (But clearly more to say about that ... which would be more appropriately said with cited sources. Of course. Proofreader77 02:10, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

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WeCU Technologies

What is your involvement with this article subject? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:23, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. Reading the article I see the company's approach to "mind reading" is fairly conventional. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:27, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) None that I know of, but I will check with MI5 to see if one of my lookalikes has some connection. :-) Proofreader77 21:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Where is the cake?

If I was an admin, I would unblock you now, you have been good all week and there is no imminent threat to the wiki at all. Off2riorob (talk) 00:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

They cannot release me until Obama announces my pardon tonight. :-) Michelle is sending over cake (according to MI5 assets in Washington. :-) Proofreader77 01:29, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The cake is cooked, the pardon is ready, the world is spinning around, that is important to keep in mind, that you are revolving, you are looking at a tree and that tree is fixed in front of your eyes, but the earth beneath your feet is spinning right round baby baby, right round . We are talking to the taliban, Hamid Karzai is in London .. cake is on the way, double entendre .. Gordon Brown anyone that clings to violence will be crushed. Off2riorob (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I say free Proofreader77. If I could I would buy you guys a (Aussie) beer. On a other note, do you guys ever sleep? Cheers! Sir Floyd (talk) 01:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi amigo Floyd, the beer keeps us awake, pass the tinnie, whats it called that beer Victoria Bitter in bottles? Off2riorob (talk) 01:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Excuse delays in response, trying to fix a DDL error ... without installing a sneaky virus.

Sleep? RIO-ops don't need sleep ... as long as there is beer! ... Ah, the Cabinet has arrived ... Michelle is sitting pretty ... Gordon Brown is not there. :-)

Who will call the president a liar tonight? LoL Just as long as it's not when Proofreader77 is being pardoned, who cares? LoL Proofreader77 02:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

State of the Union cakes coming. Ladies and gentleman.... The President of the United States Off2riorob (talk) 02:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

We are tired of the partisanship and the bickering and the pettiness...America needs to step up. Off2riorob (talk) 02:09, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Hear hear! Proofreader77 02:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Victoria Bitter is Ok. So what's new? How big is this cake? So many questions. Hmmm! Remember sleep is important. Sir Floyd (talk) 02:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

You don't need sleep when you have good cake. There is a bill on my desk and the senate has approved the cake, how long should America wait? I do not accept second helpings for America, reforms have been passed , if the cake that lands on my desk is not the biggest and tastiest cake then I will sent it back until they get it right. Off2riorob (talk) 02:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Who or what is inside the cake? Proof is back amongst the "living"? Thank goodness. The Misplaced Pages:Petition against kitten abuse needs decisive input to help establish a clear consensus. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

CoM There is no cake...the cake is a lie. Oberonfitch (talk) 05:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey, don't disrespect the cake, reality is a crowd of cake munchers...CCM for short. Off2riorob (talk) 05:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry Off2. I have just been informed that I am an asshole. The reference is to Portal, a game enjoyed by physics geeks, one of whom I bore into this world. Daughter's plans are to go to school so that she can "play with an accelerator." May the Good Lord protect us....06:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The cake of course is real enough (I am eating it^;^), and the expired block ...

... again lasts 3 more hours in the form of autoblock.

Many thanks to all for dropping by to celebrate my non-un-blocking, beer-drinking, cake-eating night of Obamarama. ^;^ Proofreader77 05:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Autoblock..smock..an adim should be able to clear that big sissy.. Off2riorob (talk) 06:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

edit conflict, Off2. That was not intended as disrespectful to the cake. It was a surreptitious allusion to a game. Name it if you can. Oberonfitch (talk) 06:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Is it a card game? Off2riorob (talk) 06:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

A very merry Non-Un-Blocking]. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 06:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Computer game Oberonfitch (talk) 06:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I have been informed that I am an asshole. Sorry Off2. The computer game Portal is a favorite amongst physics geeks, one of which I bore and let loose upon the earth; that daughter's eye firmly set on playing with the Fermi Accelerator. May the Good Lord save us all. And for those not following along...I am not a man. Oberonfitch (talk) 06:43, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

The autoblock looks like ...

09:00, 27 January 2010, MBisanz (talk | contribs) blocked #1744883 (expires on 28 January 2010 at 09:00, account creation blocked) (Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Proofreader77". The reason given for Proofreader77's block is: "Edit warring".)

But who's rushing? ... I've got cake. :-) Proofreader77 06:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Autoblock cleared. MBisanz 06:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

EC..No hurry-no worry. Pass the cake.Off2riorob (talk) 06:32, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Many thanks. (Must have gotten a call from Obama. :-) Proofreader77 06:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Is this party still going on? A very happy Un-Blocking, Proofreader77. :) Cheers Sir Floyd (talk) 08:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Bless you, Sir Floyd (who is not Sir Fozzie, but who is? :-) ... I hope you helped yourself to some cake ... in this wonderful virtual place where we can have it and eat it too. LoL Proofreader77 19:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Pretty boy

I saw the pic, who's a pretty boy then?

pretty boy, pretty boy. Off2riorob (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Bless you, pretty Polly :-) ...
  Let them look me in the eyes, then block me. LoL Proofreader77 20:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikimedia Strategic Planning (task force recommendations)

Link. Note Yes this is in the page header at the moment, but we often overlook that. Copying it here. :-) Proofreader77 21:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Nao quero dinheiro...I don't want money, so quer amar...only want love. Off2riorob (talk) 02:03, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Tim Maia

"Me Dê Motivo"... "give me a reason" E poe tudo a perder.. you are able to lose all ..Off2riorob (talk) 02:10, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

You know ... I didn't even know that the language spoken in Rio is Portuguese. (Doh!) ... Bless you for more beauty and knowledge ... and joy, amigo. Proofreader77 03:35, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Sociality

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Facebook rewrites PHP runtime -- Proofreader77 21:48, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Legend: Exclusive Barnstar

Regards Scieberking (talk) 00:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I demand an immediate barnstar design project for this issue! LoL Many thanks! Proofreader77 00:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Yep. I'm about to create "Wikiproject: Barnstar design for a Legend" - Don't care I'll get banned myself, sooner or later :) Scieberking (talk) 00:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent! Just be sure it's banned for the right reason. Banned for COI promotion of eating baby kangaroos is not a good idea, for example. :-) Proofreader77 00:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

LOL. Let's have some Cake CoKE to celebrate ;-p Scieberking (talk) 01:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Last time anyone offered me a tray of it ... was at a party at the home of a doctor (by the doctor) near UCLA medical center. No comment on my response ... but let no one think that anyone here promotes illicit drugs ... other than the general idea of legalization would be a good idea for many reasons (yada yada yada) Proofreader77 01:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Ooooh yeah! Happiness is pot-shaped notice robert plant :-p Scieberking (talk) 01:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Ooooh no! That just makes me sleepy and causes my contact lenses to stick to my eyeball (which is not a good thing LoL) Proofreader77 01:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Like your photos when I post on your page. much better than nasty stop signs with red backgrounds.

thank you for closing that ANI. Appears like my naivety combined with mis-communication created the perfect storm. Ikip 01:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome, Ikip — that topic at ANI was so obviously a dead issue, even I could close it. That's pretty dead. LoL ... And thanks for the image praise — they're my version of stop-signs. :-) Cheers. Proofreader77 02:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

LOL. made my evening with that comment. Have a great week! We signed on a house tonight, will see tomorrow if they take our offer. wish us luck! Ikip 03:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

How wonderful! Activating good luck machine — which means house will be yours .... unless it is on an unknown earthquake faultline ... in which case, better your offer declined. :-) Proofreader77 03:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest rewriting your comments on BLP RFC, I found them a little hard to understand what you were trying to say. thanks. Ikip 06:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I assume you mean the talk page (under "Paused") ... Clearer would likely be more provocative, but I will ponder. Thanks. Proofreader77 06:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I meant the most recent talk page comments...just thought i would let you know....thanks. Ikip 06:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)