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Courtney Love photo
If you wish to list the uploaded photo of Courtney Love, Image:CourtneyLoveWithFrancesBean.jpg at WP:IFD, please do so. I understand your rationale and agree with you wholeheartedly. Sorry for the inconvienance.
Image
Just to let you know, Ive reuploaded image:Miss Carey.jpg without the text, and Ive removed the imd tag. →Journalist >>talk<< 16:18, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Not watching
EM, I'm not watching you, but I have been replying to Freddy's page and I saw your comment. What exactly are the grounds for your RFC? If you're talking about the edits on Shake It Off and We Belong Together I've already conceded them to you, and have agreed in the toning down of the sections like the live performance section, and I haven't reverted them back. If you're talking about the single articles, I believe the charts should be seperated, but I'm not following anyone around. The articles have been on my watchlist for months, and you can look at the history if you dont believe me. Ive been editing them for a long time, and Im not following anyone around. OmegaWikipedia 17:51, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
You're not making much sense here. An RFC is about a conflict which hasnt been resolved. Considering that the Shake It Off edits have been resolved, what is the basis for Misplaced Pages:Ownership of articles, Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view and Misplaced Pages:Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point Misplaced Pages:No original research, Misplaced Pages:Avoid weasel terms, Misplaced Pages:Cite sources and Misplaced Pages:Fancruft. Those were the problems at Shake It Off. They have been resolved. If I continued to edit those articles in that fashion violating those policies, yes, then there would be valid grounds for an RFC. But I havent and the issue was resolved. That is the point of an RFC - to resolve an issue. How can you resolve an issue that has been resolved?
And if those articles are on my watchlist, how am I still harrassing you? And we've explained to you on Talk:The Trouble with Love Is also why they should be seperated. We also dont think its POV. That is a debatable matter, but at the moment its not clearly in either fashion. OmegaWikipedia 18:14, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
EM, if you made specific examples, I'll be glad to comment on them, but don't just say I'm a brick wall. If you dont' want to respond, that's your preorogative. But if you're talking about the edits on the charts, several people are weighing in on both sides - Some like you, Mel, and Hoary want to unify them. Some like me, Boa, USWF, Winnermario, Triggy, etc want to keep them seperated. I definitely dont own the articles nor have I claimed to. But the amount of people who are weighing in who disagree with the chart changes is not just singular. OmegaWikipedia 19:16, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
What
No I didn't. Somebody else must of. You can take away the dvd covers, but leave the album covers because they need to be there. It's wasn't supposed to be a decoration, but the dvd covers were. User:Tcatron565
Tcatron 565
DON'T CORRECT EVERY THING I DO WRONG!!!!!! IT GETS ON MY NERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fine I'll put everything from the CD page to the other page. And what is different from the two different album things? Misplaced Pages is supposed to be fun! But it's not! It has so many rules!!! 9876 to be exact!I never want to talk to u again. Just mail me a letter if I ask you a question! OKAY! BY ! User:Tcatron565
Extraordinary Machine, I believe Tcatron did cite the chart changes to the Avril Lavigne article this time around. Could you please double-check on this instance? Thanks. --Yamla 00:31, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding to my message. After further investigation, it seems that Tcatron cited the U.S. chart positions but not those of other nations. I followed up on Tcatron565's discussion page. Frustrating. Two thirds of the time, the user ignores comments and requests. But the other third, I see the user making significant step forwards. For example here, no citation of international chart positions, but the user did cite the U.S. chart positions. --Yamla 03:47, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
re: OmegaWikipedia and Mariah Carey
I've actually had an RfC for him sitting on my desktop for at least a month. I did not file it because I had hoped I could resolve it in another way before then. I don't want to file it now, because if I do it, he'll for sure think I have some sort of personal vendetta against him. I'll just provide you with some more information to aid the RfC, and I will be the first to co-sign (User:Mel Etitis will be second, and User:Volatile will be third). --FuriousFreddy 22:25, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
image:josh.jpg
The use of this image in the article(s) Josh Hartnett was reviewed by Kelly Martin on 21 September 2005 and deemed likely to qualify as fair use, as it is believed to meet all criteria as described in Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria. This image's use on other pages or in different contexts may require additional review.--DrBat 02:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Muhahaha
hello EM. you will be pleased to see my contributions to Emancipation of Mimi and It's Like That (Mariah Carey song).nothing like winding up a load of carey fans with a load of (hip hop) truth. IT'S LIKE THAT Y'ALL! TreveX 02:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
"Single" vs. "Song"
Actually, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Songs (which is more or less based off of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albums) is a general set of guidelines, not a hard set of rules. As suggested "this is only a guide and you should feel free to personalize an article as you see fit, though others may change it to fit our standards." Users basically have a lot of flexibility to work within and around the rules if they improve the overall quality of the articles.
The example album infobox on the Wikiproject Albums page doesn't include album ordinals, but many album articles such as OK Computer or Heathen Chemistry include them.
Likewise, note that the Wikiproject Songs indicates that "This project is not yet fully defined. Feel free to add stuff to make things clearer." In terms of the naming policy, many editors have given more specific names to song articles, to reflect the types of songs indicated by the infobox, such as "single", "album track", "b-side", etc. For example:
- Rammstein - "Engel (single)"
- Coldplay - "Talk (single)"
- Garbage - "Bleed Like Me (single)"
- Embrace - "Ashes (single)"
- Ash - "Orpheus (2004 single)"
- Foo Fighters - "Low (single)"
It's a subtle difference between say "F.E.A.R. (song)" and "F.E.A.R. (single)", but I believe the article title itself should be as clear and specific as possible. We're trying to make Misplaced Pages as accurate as possible, non? :-) --Madchester 17:35, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
- Note that the naming conventions indicate that "When a track is not strictly a song (in other words a composition without lyrics, or an instrumental that is not a cover of a song), disambiguation should be done using (composition) or (instrumental)." Likewise, we're dealing with (specifically) a single here, so the further disambiguation of (single) is fine; it's a fairly open-ended description. Note that it also states that "When necessary, disambiguation should be done using (band), (album), or (song)." It's "should", not "must", so editors can use their own discretion to make the titles more specific, if necessary. Remember, "It is important to note that these are conventions, not rules written in stone". I'm an administrator, an I personally give leeway to editors in these situations if they're generally following the guidelines set out in Misplaced Pages's various policies.
- --Madchester 18:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Template issue
I'm having a problem with your music single information box. Since it is a template, I am unable to remove any unnecessary information. "Recorded" comes up numerous times in this issue. Since albums can be recorded in several places around the world, it is difficult to determine where a specific track was recorded. I was just wondering if you could remove it from the template? --Winnermario 21:09, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. Winnermario 19:40, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Brain Teasers:
Hi, just sending out a friendly notice stating that I have now got brain teasers on my user page. Will post new questions one day after the older ones have been answered. Thanks, Spawn Man 05:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support on my RfA!
Thanks for your support of my adminship!! I was surprised at the turnout and support I got! If you ever have any issues with any of my actions, please notify me on my talk page! Thanks again! BTW did you ever manage to get any more helpful comments on your album article for its FAC? Ryan Norton 04:03, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
RE: Image:Mjstudio.jpg
The image I uploaded several days ago, Image:Mjstudio.jpg, I found on Michael Jackson's official website, www.mjjsource.com. If you go to this website and in the breaking news section click on, MICHAEL JACKSON'S VISIT TO LONDON - Photos Monday, October 10th, 2005, you will see this photo along with other photos of Michael Jackson in the studio and out and about in London. Down the bottom of this page, MJJ Source has stated: "This material is rights free and unrestricted use until December 10, 2005. Photo Credits: 2Seas Records, Inc., Copyright, 2005". So this must mean the photo is free to use until this date, right? Street walker 10:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Rainbow
If you want to complain about using American and Japanese as disambiguations for albums, I suggest you clarify WP:NC. It gives an example of country based disambiguation of bands in the same section it discusses album titles, but doesn't say not to do that for albums. Even if non-standard, "American" and "Japanese" certainly were sufficiently descriptive to distinguish the two in this case. Incidentally, I was the one who moved American album -> Mariah Carey album when someone else asked.
As for turning Rainbow (album) into a disambig, I'll admit, I probably should have cleaned that up, but I didn't have the patience for it. Dragons flight 14:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
RfC: Pop music issues
See Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Pop music issues. --FuriousFreddy 05:26, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Barnstar!
This is very well deserved. Congratulations. --FuriousFreddy 19:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
re: Thanks.
That's exactly my point; I feel the same as the editor who gave that quote. I don't own any Mariah Carey albums, but I respect her talents and I do enjoy at least a dozen of her songs. All I want is encyclopedic coverage here (which includes, but is not limited to, factuallness, brevity, and knowing where the line between general trivia and Careycruft is drawn). On a related not, I've been looking at a few of the Beatles articles, and they don't seem to read as well as they did to me when I first read them a year or so ago. One of these days, I'm going to have to take a longer look through them. --FuriousFreddy 16:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
"Cool" information
THANK YOU?! O_O
I honestly don't know what to say. I thought you loathed me. Why are you helping the article with its FA? --Winnermario 00:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Well thank you. And I'm sorry about our recent disputes. But it looks like I'm going to have to renominate it, since it's going to end up failing in the end. But thanks! Maybe you'll support it. Meh. Thanks. --Winnermario 00:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- If we can remedy them (you appear to be helping), I am in your debt. Thank you. --Winnermario 00:23, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Can you reference Gwen Stefani's quote paragraph of "Cool"? I did the exact same thing you did with the other quotes, but not surprisingly, it's failing for me. Thanks. --Winnermario 01:25, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- I am reverting the charts. I don't care if people are complaining about them, unified charts are POV, and I'm restoring the images, as two of them play an important role in telling the story. (The fourth one does not so much.) --Winnermario 01:36, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- There. I like it. Please leave those two images. And you know that I will continue to revert those charts. --Winnermario 01:42, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Do you care to answer my questions on the "Cool" talk page? --Winnermario 21:16, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Nice work on that "chart trajectory" image. I have a strong preferance for it over the endless HTML tables that have started showing up everywhere. Jkelly 16:33, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
- Please do not consult the objections made by User:Jgm at the "Cool" nomination, as his requests are a bit more than "perplexing". He also doesn't appear to realize that "...by Gwen Stefani" means that she sings the song over the fact that she co-penned the lyrics.
- So please do not worry about his objections. In addition, with twelve supports and two objections (User:Hoary will never agree with something that I edited), I'm sure the article is not facing much competition. --Winnermario 00:14, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I didn't follow the latter part of your message. --Winnermario 00:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's not like I'm editing "Cool" to be famous for helping it achieve FA status. But thanks anyways. --Winnermario 00:30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I am editing "Cool" because I think it's a noteworthy song. If it were for other reasons, the presumed "I want to be known for editing a FA article", that would be the most conceited thing somebody would have ever done. --Winnermario 00:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- Question. When the chart positions are updated, is it possible for you to remove "0" from the trajectory and replace it with a "1", as it is impossible to reach "number zero" on the charts? --Winnermario 00:54, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- My thanks! :) --Winnermario 00:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
"Minor" edits
Yeah, if you just search yourself at the RIAA.com database, you'll see for yourself that the certifications for Hilary Duff's albums that currently are in the article are simply megafan crap; Metamorphosis is only 3x platinum, not 4x platinum, Hilary Duff is only platinum, not 2x platinum, and those sales for Most Wanted were simply made up. Though I donnot have an official source for the sales I posted, if you go to the UKMIX forums, they give weekly album sale breakdowns. Triggy 22:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Bounty Board
Greetings. You've recently been involved with working on get articles up to featured status, so I wanted to let you know about a new page, Misplaced Pages:Bounty board. People have put up monetary bounties for certain articles reaching featured status - if the article makes it, the bounty lister donates the stated amount of money to the Wikimedia Foundation. So you can work on making articles featured, and donate other people's money at the same time. If this sounds interesting, I hope you stop by. – Quadell 22:21, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
"Cool" FA status
Cool (song) is a featured article. Your contribution to the article is greatly appreciated. Thank you. --Winnermario 23:42, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
- The chart trajectory extends into week seventeen for "Cool": number fifty in the U.S. and number six in Canada. And remember to remove that zero. Thanks! :) --Winnermario 20:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. So would it be okay to extend this trajectory for three more weeks to reach week twenty? --Winnermario 16:39, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
- Again, thank you very much. I'll see what I can do. :) --Winnermario 16:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Giuseppe Verdi
Would you care to elaborate on Talk:Giuseppe Verdi why you added the NPOV tag? It might help other editors to improve the article. Just slapping the template on is generally considered poor style. Thank you. Lupo 09:40, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Tcatron565
I see that you have warned Tcatron565 for repeated copyright violations. As this user has been violating copyright for many many weeks now and has been continually warned, I have requested comment on that user at RFC Tcatron565. See Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct for the full list. You may wish to contribute some thoughts there. --Yamla 14:54, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Peer review?
I've noticed that your contributions have helped turn several music-related articles into Featured Articles. Would you care to add to a peer review on Marilyn Manson? The band might not be quite to your taste, but I'd like to get your feedback on the article. Thanks! --keepsleeping say what 18:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Issues with User:Mel Etitis once again
It appears at Hollaback Girl, Mel Etitis went ahead and removed the entire critical response section and the notes sourcing the information. Since you and him appear to be good friends, I would much appreciate it if you explained to him that these sections are certainly relevant to a song article, especially when one wants it to achieve FA status; he (so far) fails to process this. Thanks much. --Winnermario 00:48, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- The so-called "critical response" section seemed (and still seems) to me to consist largely of long-winded and very badly-written introductions to people who say little more than "this sounds like the people who produced it", "it's good", or "its bad". There was nothing that needed saying that couldn't have been said in the article, with one or two of the references in the External links section. (I was astonished, incidentally, at just how many spelling and grammatical mistakes, not to mention fan-speak, had been crammed in to a fairly small set of additions.) I've left the section in, but corrected the errors; I still think it doesn't belong in an encyclopædia article, though.
- In fact that might be at the heart of the problem. I have, and never have had, any interest in Featured articles; my interest is in improving Misplaced Pages. The small bunch of editors whose joy is to revert all my changes have a peculiar attitude to FA, as though it's the point of the whole enterprise. This means that, at the same time as in many articles they're splitting tables that I've unified and reverting my attempts to remove unnecessary columns (while ignoring attempts to discuss the issue at, for example, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Music/Tables for charts*), they're happy to have tables unified in Hollaback Girl, the article that they're pushing for FA status, and are cutting even more columns than I've been doing.
- (* Actually Winnermario has left a foot-stamping, confrontational message at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Music/Tables for charts, but I can't make complete sense of it, and it didn't exactly help with an attempt to find consensus. It boiled down to: "I'll never change my mind; if I don't get my way I'll leave Misplaced Pages, and I think that Mel Etitis and Hoary just want to get their own way and shouldn't be allowed to edit.") --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:28, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
- Happy Saturday, Extraordinary Machine. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. The Canadian "Cool" position drops to #16, while the U.S. position is now #57. Have a great day. --Winnermario 14:54, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if this is the best way for us to be acquainted, but whatever the situation, there are several issues that must be addressed. First and foremost, User:Winnermario has delcared her departure from Misplaced Pages, which she blames on the number of users who exhibit rotten and crude behaviour. Please note that it was her who wrote that, not me. In wake of this sudden turn of events, she requested me to ask you of one last favour in addition to her post from earlier today, concerning the "Cool" chart trajectory. She would much appreciate it if you constructed a chart trajectory for Hollaback Girl, which was her current project. I sereve as her—you could say—successor, as I am fulfilling the role of upgrading the state of song articles here on Misplaced Pages (with the participation in some film projects).
- Canadian Singles Chart trajectory: 12 - 12 - 12 - 5 - 5 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 5 - 5 - 7 - 12 - 9 - 12 - 12 - 16 - 25 - 20 - 22 - 29 - 26 - 34
- U.S. Singles Chart trajectory: 82 - 57 - 37 - 10 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 6 - 6 - 9 - 11 - 18 - 22 - 22
- I apologize for the current circumstances. If this discussion (and its cofounding users) are truly as terrible as she has stated, then I have no reason to reject the situation. I'll be participating in the ongoing debate until a conclusion is met with, and will offer as much money ("two-cents", if you will) as I possibly can. So, again, I'm sorry for how everything is running at this time, but I hope that we get the opportunity to converse again in the future. Mariah says "thanks for being there".
- Thank you for the welcoming package (where there to be red ribbons included? :P), and don't worry. You don't have to format the chart trajectory for Hollaback Girl anytime soon, but her final request was for you to construct it whenever time was available to you, okay? So thank you muchly, and I wish to see you soon. --Hollow Wilerding 23:26, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Discussion
Oh, I'm not refusing to comment. But I will look at it ASAP. OmegaWikipedia 20:03, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
re: merges.
Ruh-oh. And just when I'd resigned myself to the idea that Misplaced Pages was headed for the fancruft toilet. Let's see how this goes. --FuriousFreddy 02:28, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- As far as "Theme from Mahogany (Do You Know Where You're Going To)" goes, the edit I'd made (wit hthe one paragraph on the covers) was as much merging as really needed to go one there. It could possibly be slightly expanded, but not by much. The Mariah Carey article covers a single that wasn't given a proper release, and holds no substantial notability, except to Mariah Carey completists (if we want to get really crazy, one would ask "how come the Jennifer Lopez version, which has to be by default just as important as the Mariah Carey version, wasn't given it's own article," but the answer is obvious). It doesn't even require a second (or even a combined) infobox. --FuriousFreddy 02:59, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
User:Hollow Wilerding
I may be wrong, but judging by the inability to write without violent language (as with the last part of this) and edit summaries like this, Hollow Wilerding seems to me to be Winnermario (who, though claiming to be a University-age female was clearly an adolescent male; he explained his e-mail address by saying that he shared it with a younger cousin...). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:34, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- Gossip is not appreciated. For one, you accusing me of being User:Winnermario with two individual edits that don't live up to the standards of Mariah are vile — she did tell me to avoid you, and that I've been attempting to accomplish. And two, your comment about Mariah pretending to be in University is interestingly amusing. Do you honestly believe that she's an adolescent male because she happens to share her PC with her younger cousin? It's preposterous. And those edits are not violent; they are merely my questioning evolving into minor fury. --Hollow Wilerding 02:04, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Please correct
Hi. I am operating under two assumptions. The first is that you are not an admin, and the second is that you would make a good one. Can you let me know if I am incorrect on either of these two points? Jkelly 21:15, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hm... now I think that you're mistaken. At least from what I've seen, you have better mediation skills than many. Jkelly 02:09, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the tip. And per above comments:I think you would make a good admin. You know a considerable amount of Wiki-policies — and really, who reads every policy? In any case I think you are even more familiar with policies than I am :) Anytime you want to be nominated, just let me know. Oran e (t) (c) (@) 22:06, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Not to be pushy
I do not wish to sound pushy, so if I am, I heavily apologize. As per one of User:Winnermario's final wishes, I plan on nominating Hollaback Girl for featured article status on November 13, 2005. Would it be possible for you to complete the chart trajectory by that date? --Hollow Wilerding 00:12, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, thank you for adding the chart trajectory! :) I was also wondering, would it be possible to format it the way that "Cool" has it layed out? --Hollow Wilerding 23:59, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- At this point I am aware that I am becoming a nusiance, but pushing the FA status for Hollaback Girl is something I want to accomplish because of User:Winnermario. The "Cool" position of the week in Canada is #12, however, since I have been unable to locate the U.S. position, could you hold off updating its trajectory? Thank you, and I was just wondering: does the program you use create an unlimited line graph (I know, it stops somewhere, but you know what I mean)? --Hollow Wilerding 13:37, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Hi! Could I request another favour from you? I have a friend in Australia who happened to stumble upon the Australian chart trajectory for "Hollaback Girl". If you have the time (you don't need to add it anytime soon), could you please add it to the trajectory in the article? Much appreciated.
- 1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 8 - 17 - 21 - 31 - 41 - 50 - 72 - 79 - 91 - 83 - 93 - 99.
--Hollow Wilerding 19:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- I thank you for helping with Hollaback Girl. If you ever require any help on an article, just ask me, okay? It has been good working with you. --Hollow Wilerding 01:39, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
- I have a question for you, concerning this edit made by User:Mel Etitis. According to him, charts should not have the year repeated, yet he reverted my chart edits and kept "2005" there. Also, because of Hollaback Girl and Cool's stats, they are supposed to show an example for future Misplaced Pages song articles. Is it there a reason he moved "Chart performance" to the bottom with the charts, and reverted the header "Writing process" back to "Song information" when it was him who said "Song information" has no meaning? His intentions are becoming very questionable. This is also exhibited on my talk page, where he wrote this. I am beginning to wonder if he is here only to hassle its users. --Hollow Wilerding 20:47, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Madonna commons picture
Hi, an anon ip changed the description of this Image:Madonna0605.jpg on commons at 18:56 from Source: courtesy of the magazine publisher, Meredith Corporation to uploaded by a fan. User:Red-Blue-White then removed the image from Madonna (entertainer) at 19:04 claiming the image is not PD. I don't think we have to be from mensa to work that out :-) Arniep 19:35, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- they reverted it back stating The picture is uploaded by an unknown not announced person. :-( Arniep 20:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
FA
Hi EM. Ive seen all the great work that you have done on the MC. article, so I was wondering you would mind taking a look at Celine Dion. Its far from finished (it may have a few subtle language errors), but ive been working on it and would like to submit it for FA status by the end of this month. At the moment, images are my main concern. Also, I know the sources are not cited properly, but Im gonna fix that friday (my only free day). I have a test that I really need to go study for. Anyway, please take a look and get back to me if its not a bother. Thanks in advance.
- PS Ive made a change to your userpage. See if you can spot the dif. Θrǎn e (t) (c) (e-mail) 22:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Another issue concerning User:Mel Etitis
Mel Etitis seems to have a blatant number of reasons for his opinion being the correct one. Judging by some of his edits in Cool (song), he insists that songs with remixes are spelled out the following...
- "Cool" (album version)
- "Cool" (Phoetex remix)
...over the correct form:
- "Cool (Album Version)"
- "Cool (Phoetex Remix)"
His behaviour is not one to clash with, and unfortunately, I've met with this fate. I'd really appreciate it if you could give me some advice. Mel Etitis is pushing my buttons with inaccurate edits. I apologize for continuously hounding you. --Hollow Wilerding 21:00, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well, um, thanks for the advice? --Hollow Wilerding 22:04, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
About Smallville Credits
hi, i wonder, why are you doing this to Smallville? it took me months to complete that article with big effort , every single day i just revived a lonely article and now you just want to delete an article because you just want to do it? before setting up a deletion mark, just be decent and add a reason ok? then why not try puttin that deletion mark everywhere on wikipedia as you wish
why not do that to the OC page for example? be fair c'mon there won't be any copyright issues, the WB just wants to promote their series and we are helping giving information to everyone, that's Misplaced Pages about passing the knowledge to everyone...
--Charlie144 07:08, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Comment
I actually think it would be better and more organize if we separate the articles by albums instead of years just look at Madonna's page it's very neat and about Ashlee Simpson it would be better if you separate film and music and the controversies.
Thanks
About your cover image for Cool (song)
By the file name it appears to originate from Amazon. There is no clear policy about this, but personally I would recommend scanning an image yourself because even with fair use it is a commercial third vendor which can technically claim copyright on the jpg. If you can rescan it (because I don't have the single) then you would make it easier. IIRC Amazon had once been asked about using their images but couldn't give a positive or negative reply. Even though the image may originate from Interscope, it is not always the case for commercial vendors and often they have to create the images themselves, so you cannot say that it is from Interscope. It could very well be produced by amazon. My recommendation is please scan it yourself and replace the image to prevent any problems. KittenKlub 16:21, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I've checked the user out, but he doesn't seem to be online that much, so I made the statement in the Talk Page. I am still curious about this case, because it seems like the vendor has commercial interests since it's part of their business. KittenKlub 17:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Well you'll have to also address this to the user who placed the images on Hollaback Girl (who I am assuming is the above?). --Hollow Wilerding 21:02, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I do see, thanks. Also, I'd recommend that you archive your talk page. It's growing rather... long, for lack of a better word. --Hollow Wilerding 21:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Unless I've yet to see it, could you add the source from where you located the quote by Stefani on Cool (song)? Much appreciated, oh, and congratulations on November! :) –Hollow Wilerding 23:37, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- It's okay, we all make silly errors; could you add the source since you were the one who discovered it? Much appreciated, as always. –Hollow Wilerding 20:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Image:Janet Jackson Nude Sunbathing.jpg
Why did you tag this as no copyright info? It was clearly labeled as a screenshot from a film ({{film-screenshot}}), which is fair use. This photo illustrates the section in the Janet Jackson article that describes a surreptitious film of Jackson taken by paparazzi. Firebug 23:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- No one knows who the copyright holder on this video is. Mainstream media (see ) discussed this video. As per MSNBC: "The exact source of the video and when it was shot was unclear. Photos taken at the same time popped up online last year." Thus, it is essentially impossible to provide more detailed information. Why would fair use depend on who the copyright holder is? Firebug 23:27, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Fair use requires "Proper attribution of the source of the material, and attribution of the copyright holder (if it is different) where possible". In this case, it is not possible, since no one knows who the copyright holder of the film is. Furthermore, your statement that it is necessary to write an essay for each photo explaining why it is fair use does not match Misplaced Pages practice. The explanation is already covered by the template; before viewing the photos uploaded by you, I have not seen a single fair use screenshot that met the criteria you outline. Look at almost any article that includes film, computer, video, or game screenshots, and these will all use the template as their explanation of fair use. Firebug 23:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- As an example, see all of the following:
- Image:Star wars dvd cover.jpg
- Image:Indiana.jpeg
- Image:Pac-man.png
- Image:Super Mario Bros box.jpg
- These are all fair use images on important, high traffic articles. None of them justify fair use beyond the template. Nor are these anomalies. This is the norm. Please provide evidence that this is not acceptable practice on Misplaced Pages. Remember, policy is not set in stone; it is set by practice and consensus. Firebug 23:53, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
- As an example, see all of the following:
- Misplaced Pages:Fair use requires "Proper attribution of the source of the material, and attribution of the copyright holder (if it is different) where possible". In this case, it is not possible, since no one knows who the copyright holder of the film is. Furthermore, your statement that it is necessary to write an essay for each photo explaining why it is fair use does not match Misplaced Pages practice. The explanation is already covered by the template; before viewing the photos uploaded by you, I have not seen a single fair use screenshot that met the criteria you outline. Look at almost any article that includes film, computer, video, or game screenshots, and these will all use the template as their explanation of fair use. Firebug 23:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Classic Rock
Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most like classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY röck 00:46, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Sources for Cool (song)
Good work there. Jkelly 18:03, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- Check out Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/The Waterboys for some irony; I wound up getting feedback of concern for using material from the American Academy of Poets and World Music: The Rough Guide. The comments were completely understandable, but I found it a little amusing in the context of disputes over what counts as a reliable source for Cool (song) and Hollaback Girl. Jkelly 18:16, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
FAC/Marilyn Manson
Thanks for your input last month at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Marilyn Manson. The article benefited greatly from all of those comments, and it's now a Featured Article candidate. I would definitely appreciate your vote! --keepsleeping say what 20:05, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
- I've addressed your objection. Thanks for voting. --keepsleeping say what 23:00, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
Some curious questions
Seeing as you were interested in contributing to Cool (song)'s featured article status, I was curious to know if you could quickly scan another Gwen Stefani single Hollaback Girl. Its nomination at FAC failed, and unfortunately, I myself can't seem to pick out any other edits that have to be made to the article. It would be appreciated on all levels.
Also, you seem to have yourself categorized as a "Wikipedian teenager". Are you really a teenager? Your behaviour and personality (from what I've gathered) could classify you as an adult in my book of life. —Hollow Wilerding 01:18, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the web-link, and I suppose it is very cool to have teenagers editing on Misplaced Pages! :D —Hollow Wilerding 13:42, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
Kelly Clarkson
Hi, thanks for your message to me about the edits made to Kelly Clarkson's page. I'm thinking of complaining to the powers that be of Misplaced Pages, because it is ungrammatical in English to write a title with only the first letter of the initial word and nouns in capitals, leaving the rest in lower-case letters, and titles of things such as books, songs, programmes etc. are supposed to use single quotation marks (' ') when italics are not available (i.e. in handwriting), but it is available on WIkipedia, and should be used.
I don't think the rules here have been really thought through very well, and seem to me to be in quite a mess.
Leon.
Mariah Carey references
Sure thing. I've got a bit of free time this afternoon, so I'll work on it and get back to you. Do you have any specific requests in mind? Like specific albums that should be reviewed, etc., or should I just try for a random assortment? Also, any preference for magazines like Entertainment Weekly over news print sources? --Spangineer (háblame) 19:40, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- All done. Check the talk page, and let me know if you need anything else. --Spangineer (háblame) 21:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Mariah Carey "Striptease"
Thank you for your concerns over the passage. In fact, what I described is what happened. She merely took off her sweater, and had a top and hot pants undernearth. For some bizarre reason, people subsequently described this as a "striptease," when it was anything but. I addressed this by describing what precisely did happen, but at the same time, mentioning how those who reported it described it. In so doing, I addressed the fact that they reported it inaccurately, while still mentioning what they said. This did not involve any original research, since the sources I utilized were the actual broadcast and the descriptions people (like news outlets or commentators) gave on it. If you have any other questions about it, feel free to ask. :-) Thanks. Nightscream 17:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Curiosity again
I must be vexing you out of your spirits by now (and sorry if I am), however because of your participation in bringing "Cool" to featured article status (among others), I was wondering if you would like to edit Stefani's What You Waiting For? for featured status? It'd sort of be like a collaboration, and User:DrippingInk will be participating (despite his mirror past). I'll be awaiting your reply! —Hollow Wilerding 14:16, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- Of course I do not take this personally. Your contributions on Misplaced Pages are excellent, regardless of the article you edit, so thank you nonetheless. Perhaps we could collaborate some other time. —Hollow Wilerding 16:15, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Administrators' rollback et al
Orane (do you mind if I call you that?), I just noticed this revert of yours on Mariah Carey, and I thought I'd tell you about something to do with the administrators' rollback feature. Per Misplaced Pages:Revert, "Rollbacks should be used with caution and restraint. Reverting a good-faith edit may send the message that "I think your edit was no better than vandalism and doesn't deserve even the courtesy of an explanatory edit summary." It is a slap in the face to a good-faith editor; do not abuse it. If you insist on using the rollback feature for non-vandalism edits, be sure to explain on the talk page of the user whose edit(s) you reverted." I didn't think the edits were that great either, but just a simple edit summary explaining the revert goes very far; additionally, it means that Special:Recentchanges patrollers won't mistake the editor being reverted for a vandal. On an unrelated note, I read yesterday that somebody whom we both like received eight Grammy nominations, which is cool. :) Anyway, see you! Extraordinary Machine 21:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply, and no, I dont mind, please call me Orane (that's my name). As for the rollback, I apologise, I should have explained my reasons on that talk page (its just that I was rushing as I was late for work. Also, that rollback button causes one to become quite lazy :-). Anyway, I digress. I didnt mean to send the message that "your edit wasn't good enough", but I thought that the additions slightly disrupted the flow of the intro, especially the additions at the end of it. Wont happen again without a discussion first.
- Yep, M.C has eight Grammy nods. Call me skeptical or mean, but I believe that Im just being realistic when I say she wont win any (or will receive two at most). She has never been a favourite of the Grammy voters (with good reasons). Hope you dont mind the long list, but here are my predictions for the wins in her categories (in bold):
- Record Of The Year
- We Belong Together (Mariah Carey)
- Feel Good Inc. (Gorillaz)
- Boulevard Of Broken Dreams (Green Day)
- Hollaback Girl (Gwen Stefani)
- Gold Digger (Kanye West)
- Album Of The Year
- The Emancipation Of Mimi (Mariah Carey)
- Chaos And Creation In The Backyard (Paul McCartney)
- Love. Angel. Music. Baby. (Gwen Stefani)
- How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb (U2)
- Late Registration (Kanye West)
- Song Of The Year
- Bless The Broken Road (Rascal Flatts)
- Devils & Dust (Bruce Springsteen)
- Ordinary People (John Legend)
- Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own (U2)
- We Belong Together (Mariah Carey)
- Best Female Pop Vocal Performance
- It's Like That (Mariah Carey)
- Since U Been Gone (Kelly Clarkson)
- Good Is Good (Sheryl Crow)
- I Will Not Be Broken (Bonnie Raitt)
- Hollaback Girl (Gwen Stefani)
- Best Female R&B Vocal Performance
- 1 Thing (Amerie)
- Wishing On A Star (Beyoncé)
- We Belong Together (Mariah Carey)
- Free Yourself (Fantasia)
- Unbreakable (Alicia Keys)
- Best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance
- Mine Again (Mariah Carey)
- Summertime (Fantasia)
- A House Is Not A Home (Aretha Franklin)
- If I Was Your Woman (Alicia Keys)
- Stay With You (John Legend)
- Best R&B Song
- Cater 2 U (Destiny's Child)
- Free Yourself (Fantasia)
- Ordinary People (John Legend)
- Unbreakable (Alicia Keys)
- We Belong Together (Mariah Carey)
- Best Contemporary R&B Album
- Touch (Amerie)
- The Emancipation Of Mimi (Mariah Carey)
- Destiny Fulfilled (Destiny's Child)
- Turning Point (Mario)
- O (Omarion)
Wow, sorry for the long list; It must be wasting your user page. Feel free to wipe everything out after reading, I wont mind. Oran e (t) (c) (e-mail) 15:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
Translated articles
I've seen that before on some Wikipedias - out of curiosity what is the point if only part of the article is translated and the content changes later on anyway? I always thought the message was to be written only when doing an entire translation. I'll add the template, but just curious. Mithridates 17:09, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Check the bottom of the page now. That's the same one I've seen the Interlingua Misplaced Pages use when doing the same thing. I assume that would be acceptable? Mithridates 17:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
KaDee Strickland
Congrats on mainpage! I remember voting for this article, which you had nominated for FAC, and was impressed by the amount written on such a little-known celebrity. Congrats to you, again! -Mysekurity 04:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed, congrats on it Extraordinary Machine. Of course, I'm not that much interested in all that entertainment and whatnot, but hot diggity damn boy, you've got some talent for writing articles about the industry. I hope you get paid big bucks at some sleuthy mag. 70.48.111.198 09:05, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Congrats again on Main Page. There is quite a stir among Wikipedians about it. I enjoyed reading the article and she is nice eye candy!!! (very attractive)--Adam 19:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
re Talk:Main Page
copied from User talk:Doops: Sorry about removing your comment. I performed a revert on the vandalism that occurred before you posted your message, and was in the process of restoring your message when an edit conflict occurred between myself and a vandal. Sorry! Extraordinary Machine 17:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I understand. I was reverting the vandal the slow way (i.e. by "editing this version" on the last good revision and then pasting in my text at the bottom before saving) and you beat me to it. Doops | talk 17:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Question on Strickland article
What you're saying, then, is that no person or organization in the field of public relations, or in any way associated with Ms. Strickland, had anything to do with the creation of this article, or with its ascension to featured article status, in any way, shape, or form? BYT 18:41, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Strickland quotes remain unsourced
I have left a query for you on this at Talk:KaDee Strickland. BYT 13:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Celine Dion
This is probably a bother, but could you please take another look at the Céline Dion article. Ive taken the comments at the last FA and have tried to address them: Ive found many print sources, about 5 Books, more authoritative reviews:New york Times, Billboard.com, Los Angeles Times etc. Ive addressed her music, changes in sounds/genres, motivation etc. at the end of each sub-section, and Ive also added a "Image and Celebrity status" section at the bottom. You can reply at the peer review. Thanks. Oran e (t) (c) (e-mail) 01:19, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- By the way, do you know how to upload audio samples (or where I could get them). I have never done that. Oran e (t) (c) (e-mail) 01:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
You're a good editor, Extraordinary Machine
You obviously have what it takes to write a featured article. Why don't you focus on subjects that are more deserving of your talents? --malber 13:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
New Message
To see your new message see What.
Hallo EM
I'm not a brand new user. Count my vote or don't count my vote- it's the comments that matter and I said my piece. It annoys me that the right of editors to not register is challenged on wiki, despite the fact that refusing to countenance anonymity is against the rules, and in my opinion, anti wiki. This is obviously a charged issue at the moment. Once again, I don't mean to denigrate you personally, as I feel the problem here stems from deficiencies in the system itself, not just the quality of your efforts. I look forward to hearing your response to my comments on the Strickland FARC page- particularly your view as to whether the article breached the guidelines for an FA in the first place in hindsight. I personally feel that this point at least is manifest. Once again though, I am not attacking you- to my knowledge, you did (and pretty much continue to be doing) everything in the correct way. Signed (reluctantly)86.139.28.9 21:35, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Hi EM- Well, my opinion of the article is stated clearly elsewhere and I stand by that, but as a rule of thumb- don't worry about criticism. If nothing else, some important points about the FA process specifically and wikipedia in general have been made in the debate, which counts as a service by you (albeit indirectly!) to the project. To my mind, it wasn't your error, if an error was committed at all (and I have to say, in this case I think there was one). It's a shame you are absorbing such a lot of heat, I know it can't be too nice and of course it will soon die away. Don't worry too much about it and chin up! Cheers, 86.139.28.9 01:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for screwing up the numbering
I'll see if I can get up to speed on this before adding more material. Thanks for the links. BYT 13:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Re: Piped links
I thank you for informing me of this, but could you please explain how you knew about my edits to the Hero (Mariah Carey song) article? —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
- ...If you do insist. —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 21:59, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Batxx (talk)
This person's link spamming continues—seven total, and counting, as I write this RadioKirk 00:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Nine, now... RadioKirk 00:27, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
- Looks like he got the point, it stopped at nine. RadioKirk 21:07, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Janet Jackson references
I guess because I didn't like the way it look, I don't know. I was sure someone would post links and/or references to the Janet page. I guess I need to know what I'm doing before I erased such stuff, I guess. LOL -- Posted by BrothaTimothy, 21 September 2005, 24:10 PM (UTC)
Radio Maryja
Please help me with this article. People are biased, because it is about religion mixed with racism and politics (the radio openly supports the ruling party PiS in Poland), and I cannot get through the editorial war with some users who keep reverting me.
Here is an article about this racist issue, that I cannot decribe in English due to vandalism against any new : http://www.or.org.pl/artykuly/acala-rm.html The article was prepared by the anti-racist movement in Polanmd and comes from their website. However, even link to this article was erased, as well as other my comments on it being a "hate radio". Please, help. Moa anbessa 12:01, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Music/Tables for charts
Tell me what you think of the album pages proposal. --FuriousFreddy 17:05, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Mariah Carey
Please see the above wikilink. —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 14:00, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Responded. Please see the talk page once again. Thanks. —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 18:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Template:User windows
Good call on the fair use image... surprising no one caught it before! ~MDD4696 06:55, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Abusive User Named Parys
The Mandy Moore page that you contributed to has information on it contributed by a very abusive Misplaced Pages user named 'Parys'. Parys has been deliberately putting up false info about Mandy's forthcoming album that he knows is wrong here and on Mandy's official message board where the 'Mandy experts' realized he was lying.
So far, 2 of the Misplaced Pages pages he created or contributed heavily to have been deleted by administrators. Yet, he somehow has gotten them to be revived again using some sort of trick that may have involved 'merging' ( i am not very familiar with Misplaced Pages terminology).
Parys also got an administrator to ban the ip address of the main branch of the Los Angeles Public Library that has around 100 computers that have internet access. There are 1000s of people who use these computers and they will no longer be able to edit Misplaced Pages pages as a result of this action. I beleive, but am not positive about this, that he may have already, or will soon, also have banned the ip address of the UCLA library computers, which will also prevent 1000s of additional people from editing Misplaced Pages pages.
Parys is also the author of a book that is pornography about teenagers called 'High School Whore'. I mentioned this just so you can get a glimpse of the sort of personality he has.
He has also threatened several wikipedia users on his talk page and has threatened people on Mandy's official message board.
The misinformation that Parys is putting up about Mandy's forthcoming album could cause her to lose album sales, and to lose money as a result of that. Mandy has strong legal grounds for suing Parys for harassment, and since you are also now contributing to this deliberate misinformation, she could also sue you. So, please stop, for your own legal protection. Mandy's manager will not like the idea that his 15% of Mandy's income is lessened by even a single penny as a result of the misinformation that Parys and you are putting up on Misplaced Pages. I hope you stop what you are doing before it becomes necessary to inform him and Mandy's lawyers about this malicious hoax.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that Parys tricked you into helping him by lying, the way that he has tricked others. You would do best to report Parys to administrators, as i am currently doing.
I dont even know you... But i tricked you... WTF
Parys
Image at Benji Madden
As I assume you also have, I've been watching Benji Madden recently and noticed that people have been removing images from the article. Another editor said on Talk:Benji Madden that the image at Benji Madden was actually of Joel, not Benji. Could you please confirm or deny this on that talk page? --Idont Havaname 05:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Leaving?
I hope that doesn't mean you are leaving. I made a couple edits to KaDee Strickland, and I'm not 100% sure about them. Anyway, great work on it and the other articles - pop culture articles especially :).
Thanks, and hope you have a nice holiday :) WhiteNight 19:30, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Bulbasaur
I have added Fair Use rationale to all of the Fair Use images on the Bulbasaur article: I feel your concern has been addressed. Thank you. --Celestianpower 12:41, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Nice Work
Nice work on your pop culture-related articles. Misplaced Pages thanks you for your services. -- Mac Davis ญƛ. 13:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Wow, I didn't look at your user page, there are a lot of Barnstars!! -- Mac Davis
Just a question
Are you aware of any Wikipedians who are capable of creating OGG files for music? I was going to ask User:FuriousFreddy, but since he has taken a departure from Misplaced Pages (hopefully not permanent), I obviously cannot. Do you know of any? And happy new year to you! —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 15:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you. By the way, I am aware that you saw my candancy at RfA. Just ignore it, as it has failed because of one incident. Thanks! :) —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 16:12, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey again, EM. I'm having a difficult time referencing a source at Luxurious (song). I was wondering if you knew the correction citation and could perhaps do it for me (if it isn't too much trouble)? Thanks!
This is the source. —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 03:22, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- No? Well you could have at least dropped me a line. All right, thanks anyway. Happy new year! —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it appears as though you did. Excuse my lazy eyes today, as this is an example of New Year's Eve night. Nonetheless, let's continue contributing this year too! By the way, don't leave Misplaced Pages, because your edits are excellent. (November is quite impressive.) Happy new year! —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 15:48, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: Heaven (Ayumi Hamasaki single)
Where are you getting that this article is a song article? "HEAVEN" may be an Ayumi Hamasaki song in itself, but this article is about the single, which has multiple tracks and other such distinguishing factors. Calling the article a song article is misleading; a reader would probably think the article was about one particular song rather than a collection of songs. Furthermore, in reading your talk page, I see that you've moved other pages from "single" to "song" before, particularly F.E.A.R. (single), which was moved back after someone discussed it with you. How is the case of this single, and the other Ayumi Hamasaki singles, different from that case? Kamezuki 01:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- I just looked over Misplaced Pages:Naming_conventions#Album_titles_and_band_names, and I didn't see anything concerning singles--just songs, albums, bands and the like. What part of this policy states that singles should be listed as songs? Like I said before, this article isn't about a song; it's about a single, which contains multiple songs. If the title of an article contains "song" when the article is not solely about one song, it can be misleading. I realize that nowadays, many of the "singles" released in Western countries are actually just one song and may not even be packaged in a physical medium; however, in Japan (and possibly in other countries), which has a single-driven market, singles are treated differently and cannot, and should not be lumped under the term "song". Kamezuki 00:38, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank alot for your helpful tips on the policy. I'm very glad you tell me or I would not even read the policy all or even fix it. You are a very nice person. Darknshadow 23:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
A problem with your username
I just want to say that I first listened to 'Extraordinary Machine' about two weeks ago, and I love it. My problem is that every time I see an edit of yours on RC Patrol, it makes me want to listen to the whole album. Maybe if I grow tired of it, I'll have to whitelist your edits :). -- MicahMN | μ 18:10, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
What happen to the Confessions of a Broken Heart article?
What happened to Lindsay Lohan's article on Confessions of a Broken Heart? I was more than shocked that it was deleted. I, as a person who often visits Misplaced Pages, am not satisfied with the actions you have taken. I don't "like" Lindsay Lohan but her video is really interesting and I enjoyed reading that article. When I checked back 2 weeks later, it disappears. Where is your common sense? Why don't you delete the Hung Up Madonna song? It's just a music video, song, single like Lindsay's! Please stop being biased or I have to report you.
Response
Misplaced Pages is wrong then. Songs are not spelled out the way you insist they been when remixes have been created. I must refrain from reverting though, since you say it's part of the MoS. However, the archived talk page is ridiculous. I just discovered Misplaced Pages today and may not know much about it, but why would a talk page be archived if it exceeds 30KB? Judging by a few articles that are very good, they are over 50KB! The article on my favourite singer Mariah Carey approaches that distinction! That's just the main article itself though... why should a talk archive be treated the same way? 64.231.72.45 23:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- I have a talk page called Hollow Wilerding? What do you mean that I've been reported for evading a block? Could you please answer my question? 64.231.72.45 23:59, 6 January 2006 (UTC)