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I'm just curious if anyone else finds a lot of these "singles" pages (especially this one) full of opinions/commentary and POV, besides me? From what source are the "high expectations" for this single's performance taken? Who stated that the first single from the album was a disappointment? Many times record companies release a teaser-single before an album's release to an artists' core fan base (in this case hip-hop/R&B) to build hype... not necessarily for huge chart performance. On what is the statement about "all albums having to face the sophmore slump" based? Who was expecting the song to be pushed into the Top 10 after West's VMA performance? His record company? MTV? Radio? Using phrases like "skyrocketed like nobody's business" isn't encyclopedic language at all. Shouldn't the part about Mariah Carey's near-miss self-replacement-at-#1 be on the page for "We Belong Together"?

Seems to me articles describing singles should contain the basics: title, artist, featured artists (if any), producer, songwriter, album... along with chart positions, perhaps some background history on the creation of the song , total sales/downloads and, if any, significant achievements (for example mentioning that the song jumped from #19 to #1).

The first half of this article is great. I don't want to just swoop in and rewite it, as someone obviously worked hard on the article, but this doesn't read like an encyclopedia to me. I'm not trying to be an asshole, I'm just wondering if anyone else has an opinion on this. Am I being too critical? -- eo 04:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

I think you might be too critical. To answer your questions, the first single was a full single and not a teaser. And "sophmore slump" is a very common term used in the music industry. Some links , . Chart analysts were expecting the song to go Top 10 due to his high downloads. The part about Mariah's near replacement is important and is mentioned in all articles (because that is a very unusual jump). Anyway, I got your point though, so I'm going to change some things hopefully to make things more clear. OmegaWikipedia 04:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

eo, your criticisms are very reasonable, and the article has been cleaned up as a result. --FuriousFreddy 01:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Speculation.

Quote from provided source:

" The speculation that Mariah Carey's "Shake It Off" (Island) would advance to No. 1 on The Billboard Hot 100 came to naught".

We don't report speculation or suppositions. Will reword. --FuriousFreddy 06:24, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Possible wrong info

For the type of person decribed in this song, see Age disparity in sexual relationships. In the song, Kanye is describing a gold digger, which is, a woman, who is using him for his money, age disparity is were one of the people are young and the other is old, right?

• Yes, but he also isnt saying shes a gold digger, just that she "aint messin with no broke niggas". --Shawn88 11:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
• Exactly, she ain't messin with no 'broke niggas, how is that saying she's dating a younger guy??
• Well, then someone should get rid of the link to 'age disparity in relationships', I'm going to do that now, if someone brings it back then tell me why being broke means youre dating some younger...
• "Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger" is an example of irony. Keep the age disparity lyrics!

Just how good is Foxx?

I am currently in need of absolute, irrefutable proof regarding whether Ray Charles is or is not sampled in the repeated chorus of "She give me money." Some say it is Charles' own voice, some say it is Foxx. Must know.

• Its a Ray Charles vocal sample. I'm 100% sure of it. The article even mentions it. --Shawn88 20:12, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

• You are right. 64.231.72.45 00:48, 7 January 2006 (UTC)