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This is a Request for comment (RfC) on a proposal to implement Community de-adminship (CDA) on the English Misplaced Pages. Community de-adminship (a form of Administrator Recall), would be a method for the Misplaced Pages community to remove the administrator tools from existing Administrators who have lost the confidence of the community.
- You can read the CDA proposal here.
- You can read an FAQ about the proposal, prepared by editors who worked on it and support it, here.
This page opened for comments 18:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC), and will close 23:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC).
The proposal
The community is being asked whether a proposal for community-based removal of administrator privileges, called Community de-Adminship (CDA) should be implemented as policy on the English Misplaced Pages.
If WP:CDA is adopted this will require two other amendments:
- The Misplaced Pages:Guide to Community de-adminship will be described as a "guide to current practice" in the same way that Misplaced Pages:Guide to requests for adminship is at present.
- It will also be necessary to amend the policy Misplaced Pages:Administrators to include reference to the WP:CDA process. This step will be undertaken as a technical matter at that page as and when needed.
Closure
When the debate here is concluded, it will be closed in the usual way. If sufficient consensus has not been reached after thirty days, and further discussion would be useful, it will be extended.
If the RfC ends in consensus to implement, such implementation will then be subject to review by the Bureaucrats and Jimmy Wales.
Discussion
Comments by some of the editors who prepared the proposal
See also: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Administrator/Five Problems with a Single SolutionThis discussion follows on from those at:
There, a poll was conducted that attempted to evaluate the levels of community support for various proposals seeking to create a method by which the community at large (as opposed to Arbitration Committee) could pass comment on the actions of and if necessary remove the tools from, existing Administrators.
The main conclusions of this poll were as follows:
- The status quo, (i.e. no such process being available) whilst garnering some support, was very unpopular. 77% of respondents did not support its continuation.
- Only one proposal achieved a greater degree of support than opposition – "Misplaced Pages:Community de-adminship" (CDA) – which received a majority of 13, and the support of 65% of those who considered it. This proposed process was designed as a "mirror image" of the existing Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship (RfA), and part of its appeal was evidently its familiarity.
The reasons for dissatisfaction with the status quo are complex and varied, but a view was regularly expressed that if the community at large has the authority to appoint administrators through the RfA process, then the community should also be able to remove their powers.
This led to lengthy discussions at:
which attempted to iron out various issues in the then existing Guide to Community de-adminship. This resulted in:
- Some wording changes and clarifications as identified above (Section: Update from WT:CDADR). Few of these were controversial.
- An increase in the nomination period from 3 days to 7 days.
- More emphasis on pre-nomination attempts to resolve any disputes.
- Most complex of all, a more specific statement about how the outcome shall be judged. Various options were considered and two specifics are identified as part of this RfC (see below).
In many cases the above discussions were a conflict between:
- The desire to make the process simpler or easier to implement in order to avoid allowing those perceived as having abused their Administrative tools to continue without fear of sanction, and
- The desire to avoid a system in which Administrators, who almost inevitably find themselves taking on potentially controversial tasks on the community's behalf, are discouraged from taking action for fear of reprisals via a Recall method that is too easy for aggrieved editors to make use of when they don't get their way.
The resulting changes to the Guide to Community de-adminship were a compromise between these two poles.
Poll
Support
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