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Template:Vfdsock

A clear violation of WP:BITE. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 22:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Arguable. It is quite needed for when AfD discussions about a website are linked from that website and we start getting dozens of people coming in and voting "DO NOT DELETE" or the like. Keep for the moment. I can be persuaded to change if someone comes up with a better version. Stifle 22:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Background

Disambig-style statement that doens't actually disambiguate. The template does what the introductory text should do. What horrible writing style Raul654 20:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. not used --Adrian Buehlmann 21:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC) neutral Oh no! What links here is still broken (don't trust it). It is used. --Adrian Buehlmann 22:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Creator:Benjamin West

Unused. Created last June and not edited since. Nothing links to it. - TexasAndroid 20:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:UK ties & Template:UK ties3

Not used. Replaced by Template:UK ties2. CG 19:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: Template:UK ties was last nominated on 16 December 2005 (UTC). --Adrian Buehlmann 21:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Kamic A'kota

Template:Kamic A'kota
Delete — Kamic said this was a test . It consists only of ]. It links only to Kamic's userpage, and that is easily fixed. Fang Aili 18:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Note JapanRailwaysFormat

Template:Note JapanRailwaysFormat
Delete — This is a weird one from Misplaced Pages:Templates with red links - unused, unconventional, and unedited since mid '04. BDAbramson T 05:36, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete -- I'm sure it covered a need back when I first created it, probably replacing repeated content, but if it's obsolete by now then it's time to delete. Aris Katsaris 06:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - Unused, could be merged. - Cuivienen 14:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:User antiracist

• Strong Keep as per below Athf1234 04:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Template:User true antiracist as below. - Cuivienen 04:19, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep per all userboxes until the userbox hunt ends. Misplaced Pages is WP:NOT censored.karmafist 04:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Just delete it already. I don't know what I was thinking using the phrase "By any means necessary!" in there. After seeing how much trouble it brings to try to defend a point, I think Malcolm should have used "By some means considered acceptable!" --Daniel 04:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - Malcolm was antiracist. This attack on Malcolm is racist. (see also discussion Template_talk:User_antiracist). Therefore, all the more reason to keep this template! -- ActiveSelective 09:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Your logic is impeccable. A regular Descartes, you are. We are all humbled. -Silence 09:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• ActiveSelective adds: and after this template is finally awarded a 'keep', i suggest a temporary Lock On Nominating This Template for at least a few months. Otherwise we have to do this discussion all over again, and again, and again, since it is a fettish object for conservative crusaders.

• Merge with the below. Radiant_>|< 12:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep Both WP:POINT I agree with the point being made, but that's not the point. You see my point? - Hayter 12:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Template:User true antiracist --Angelo 12:19, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Comment — there is no nominator _→AzaToth 12:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  • True, but at least one user above wants it deleted, so he can be considered the nom. Not a bureaucracy. Radiant_>|< 12:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Inoffensive userbox. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong speedy keep as per all supporters - also suggest that this be a degree of the template listed below. --CJ Marsicano 16:06, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep What is with censoring all progressive thought, even on user pages? Kukini 16:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I don't see any problem with this. I don't understand why it's nominated. --Fang Aili 19:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I don't have a problem with this. --Alf 22:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:User true antiracist

The drift I get is that we are going to sterilize User Talkpages of anything other than "I support", "I consume", or "I like" messages in userboxes. So I say no one should be able to state their non-support, or opposition to(!) anything. Somebody's feelings might get hurt, and we would never want anything to cramp the rights of people who use English Misplaced Pages not to have to think or question themselves. And good Lord in Heaven forbid, that anyone use of the image of either one of these unrepentant lawbreakers - it might make them inclined to violate policy! --Daniel 03:49, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy keep both, WP:POINT. However, switch the MLK image (and possibly the Malcolm X one) for a non-Fair Use one. Additionally, recommend moving Template:User true antiracist to Template:User antiracist2, as its current title makes it sound like (and it probably is) an unnecessary jab at people who prefer to use the more militant first template. -Silence 03:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep. This nomination is a WP:POINT. I also recommend merging with template:user antiracist with the use of a (non-fair use) MLK image rather than Malcolm X, though such recommendations aren't really the point of the TfD page. - Cuivienen 04:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep for both anti-racist templates. I see no reason for them to be deleted. Athf1234 04:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Strong delete: WP:POINT doesn't apply. I've changed my mind - it's part of the beauty of having one and the freedom to express what's on it. So since we are getting rid of inflammatory userboxes, we may as well get the ones that offend a good number of English-speaking Misplaced Pages users out of the way. --Daniel 04:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep per all userboxes until the userbox hunt ends. Misplaced Pages is WP:NOT censored.karmafist 04:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Sarcastic delete'. "Anti-racist" could be interpreted as a personal attack against racist people. — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 07:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• ACtually, that's not a bad point. It's also disingenuous to have the templates named "antiracist" when the content of the template makes it clear that the user is opposed to racism, not just to all people who happen to be racist. So, in addition to my above recommendation that the caustic and pointed name "true antiracist" be moved to "antiracist2", I now feel that the two templates should be named: (1) antiracism, and (2) antiracism2. By the way, I also happen to feel that these are some remarkably silly templates (what's next, anti-rape templates? anti-genocide? anti-suffering? anti-ignorance? oy.), but then again, lots of our userboxes are, and they still get used, so I see no problem with bringing these ones up to snuff for those people who do want to use them, for one reason or another. -Silence 07:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It's silly to think that there are racists on Misplaced Pages. It's so uncivil to say such a thing like they need to be opposed! --Daniel 15:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, such masterful Ciceronian persuasion as in the edit you quote necessitates fierce resistance indeed. EldKatt (Talk) 15:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Strong keep, and then Name Change -- leave out the 'true' in 'true antiracist'. I suggest to leave the other antiracist template with the same name, and rename the 'true antiracist' into 'antiracist MLKing' because: (1) it has to be renamed anyway, (2) it has less users using it. -- ActiveSelective 10:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to the above. Radiant_>|< 12:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Inoffensive template. Sjakkalle (Check!) 15:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong speedy keep. Righteous sentiment. --] 16:07, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and change the template names per Silence. --Fang Aili 19:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep this is simple WP:POINT. Silly Daniel, no cookie. Stifle 22:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:User vandal

Apparantly created only to make a point in the discussion below. Not used. JYolkowski // talk 02:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete anything that actually encourages violations of Misplaced Pages policy.--Sean|Black 02:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete and no cookies to the creator's for his weird WP:POINT. This is created and unused, knowing it will be nominated for an acrimonious deletion; what a waste of time! --Doc 02:23, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Conditional Keep - If and only if more than one person is actually using this template for being a graduate of UI. It is the UI nickname. - 69.86.17.202 03:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Heh, that was me. - Cuivienen 03:14, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• If anyone decides to take up this template - I will defend it, however delete for now.--God of War 03:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I think it's funny, and the University of Idaho is a major school. If it's not used, that might just be because it's new. In no way encourages breaking policy, unless the word "vandal" is a form of light treason now. Lord Bob 04:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Maybe WP:POINT and maybe not, but UI's teams are called the "Vandals" so what's the beef? (I'm pretty sure they mean these Vandals, not those Vandals. Probably not even them or them.) TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Nothing wrong with it, no need to delete it. DaGizza 04:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --Peace Inside 05:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. I didn't create this to WP:POINT, more as a WP:JOKE. It's for identifying one's self as someone who went to U of I. — Phil Welch Are you a fan of the band Rush? 07:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and per encyclopedia. --Pjacobi 09:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete, attack page. Radiant_>|< 12:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete no way! --Angelo 12:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• This was deleted by Doc glasgow at 12:32 13 January, with summary "attack template - joke vandalism", with no comment here, when there was clearly no consensus to do such a thing. I have speedy-undeleted this. If I'm still allowed to have a vote, keep and rename to Template:User University of Idaho or some other less confusing name. It's funny! ~~ N (t/c) 15:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

It clearly looks like an attack template, if you arn't up on university sport's team's names in the US. Excuse me if we in the rest of the world are not. Avoid systematic bias, and keep in jokes to userspace please. --Doc 17:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and Rename — per N _→AzaToth 15:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep does not in any way that I can see encourage policy violations. DES 16:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Templates which indicate the cultural or educational background of a user are harmless and potentially slightly useful. - Haukur 16:53, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

  Seeing that it's an orphan I don't mind if it's deleted. But my keep stands if someone puts in on their user page. - Haukur 16:55, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and rename if it's actually being used by someone. --Fang Aili 19:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong and Speedy Copy to Misplaced Pages:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense and Then Move To Misplaced Pages:Userboxes/US Sports and Rename. Fine balance between making a point and making a joke, and this userbox has clearly crossed all three lines. James S. 20:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and rename/recolor, are those even U of I's colors?? (yes I know the original POINT was about the debate below). -- nae'blis _(talk) 20:42, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Template has already been renamed to Template:User uni idaho --Blu Aardvark | 20:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)