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Birthdays

I didn't think about it being her birthday. I've sometimes thought about people who have died young and how old they'd be if they'd lived. Carole Lombard would also be 102, Jean Harlow 99, Vivien Leigh 97, Ingrid Bergman 95 - likely they'd be gone by now. (Although Luise Rainer and Gloria Stuart are still around). James Dean would be 79, Sharon Tate 67, Natalie Wood 72, Marilyn Monroe 84, Jimi Hendrix 68, John Lennon 70, Steve McQueen 80, Anne Frank, Audrey Hepburn, and Grace Kelly all 81, Judy Garland 89. Hard to imagine them as elderly people. Rossrs (talk) 08:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm vaguely aware of Gloria Stuart as a young actress. The first time I heard of her was reading about the WAMPAS baby stars, and that was long before Titanic. When Titanic came out, I wondered if it was the same woman, and it was. I uploaded a screenshot of her from The Invisible Man (long deleted as it was non-free, back before I knew about such things). I was watching a documentary about Hollywood a little while ago and it had an interview with Gloria Stuart which seemed fairly recent, and in the bottom left hand corner was a picture of a young Gloria. My screenshot. Considering the thousands of potential screenshots in a film, I thought it must have come from Misplaced Pages for it to be exactly the same one right down to the cropping of it. All the old stars being interviewed had "young" photos on the screen with them. I looked to see if I could take credit for any of the others, but Gloria's was the only one. This is it. (Once something's uploaded on Misplaced Pages it's pretty unusual for it to not end up somewhere else.) Pretty gorgeous in her day. Rossrs (talk) 09:03, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I find that interesting too. We have someone in the family who will turn 99 later this year (although she keeps praying for God to take her, he ain't listening). She was alive when the Titanic sank, and she's lived through changes I can't begin to comprehend. It astonishes me to think that my mother (84) remembers a time when Hitler was discussed in the present tense as a current threat. I ask her questions, but if I put anything to her directly she becomes vague and self conscious and I don't think she really gets that I find it interesting. Occasionally she'll remember something out of the blue and tell a story. Recently she remembered this one. My grandmother lived not far from where I grew up and where my mother still lives, and around the corner from her house is a large park. Nowadays it's used for football, and when it's not in use, it's the most beautiful and tranquil spot, framed by huge jacaranda trees, but during the Second World War there was a temporary Army camp there for U.S. soldiers about to go to war. To get from there to the local pub, you go past my grandmother's house, so there was usually a stream of soldiers going by her place at the end of the day. She'd be out trimming her roses, and probably being a bit of a busy-body. She became acquainted with one young soldier and somehow they became friends and he'd come into her house for a cup of tea. All my mother remembers of him was that he was very young, and that he was nice and polite. A nice kid. She can't remember his name. He was killed in the war, and after his death, my grandmother in Australia and his mother in the U.S. kept a correspondence over quite a few years. Never met - but kept in touch for quite a long time. I'd never heard this until recently, and something reminded my mother of it, and so she told the story. I drive down the street where my grandmother lived, and I've played in that park numerous times, but you just don't know what kind of history has taken place there until someone tells you. I think it's a very sweet story, and if I had more to tell, I'd send a synopsis to Clint Eastwood, Letters from Australia, but you now know as much as I do. Most of the story died with my grandmother, and I guess with the boy's mother. My mother probably remembers less than she once knew, and all that's left are the bare bones, and if something hadn't brought the story to the front of my mother's mind, the bare bones wouldn't have seen the light of day. Now I have the bare bones of it for as long as I'm around. After that, the young soldier and his story probably won't be known by anyone. Kind of sad when I look at it like that. On the other hand, when he was walking down my grandmother's street nearly 70 years ago, could he have dreamed that in 70 years time someone who hadn't even been born would be telling about something as mundane as him walking down my grandmother's street? Less sad if I look at it from that angle. Rossrs (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Norma Shearer / Pictures

I don't think that removing pictures you think are bad is quite the same thing as improving the quality of the pictures in an article. While the trailer picture from The Women is pretty blurry at all sizes, the one from Marie Antoinette looks fine in the article, it only looks blurry when it is blown up. Since trailer pictures (which are in the public domain) fair use images from the films cannot be used because they are replacable by public domain images. You say that you are okay with all the images except those from trailers, but in many cases, trailer pictures are the only public domain pictures of old actors acting. And shouldn't an actor's page ideally have a picture of them acting if such a picture exists? After all, ideally an athlete's article would have a picture of them doing their sport and ideally a singer's article would have apicture of them in concert.Givememoney17 (talk) 22:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Kim Novak

It's not as if she is dead. For a living person, an image from 2004 should be in the article instead of one from the 1950s —Preceding unsigned comment added by Closeminded8 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

What's my line?

I see that you once again put "What's My Line" back to the present tense. You state that it is still an active program or show. Where is it current or active? You need to spell out where the show is active, if you want to keep in in the present tense.

- Dan Dobson~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.160.161 (talk) 00:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit Wae

Only one of us is discussing the issues involved. You seem to have a serious ownership issue with the Crowe article. WP:own As such, I would suggested you take a break from editing it. You don't seem to have a handle on Misplaced Pages concepts particularly as they relate to sourcing and naming of persons.

I did notice this recent reference to you on another article: "Actually, looking at your talk page, it appears that you have a history of edit-warring and were even blocked for it. You might want to read WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Erpert (let's talk about it) 05:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)"

Eudemis (talk) 12:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)