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Hello

I have seen your name on articles that you have started or edited, and that I have also edited or created. It would appear we may have similar interests perhaps. Anyway, I just wanted to say hello and if you have any tips for me or any articles that you need a hand with. --DubhEire (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, many thanks! I saw your name too, and I'd first like to ask you where you get the co-ordinates from. I use Earthtools.org, but it seems to provide only the decimal format, not the minutes and seconds of an arc that I'd prefer. At the moment I'm creating articles for the following:

• Each of the Dublin city civil parishes (about 13 out of 19 or so done so far - each article to contain sections on the church, cemetery, parish and notable parishioners)
• Each of the Dublin Liberties (5 done, the others are of minor importance). Also need to create a category for the Dublin Liberties.
• Each of the Dublin hospitals of the 19th century (about 6 left to do) and the prominent doctors and surgeons in these
• Re-writing The Liberties article, which was in a really bad state, but I wanted to complete the individual Liberties articles first to ensure I had references, background material, etc.

If you're interested, I could send you a list of the articles I've created (106 so far) or just the Dublin ones. Regards, Hohenloh 18:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I get the coords using Google Maps by right clicking on where you want for coords for and then select What's here?. I then check them with the other map providers before I commit, i.e. bing and yahoo. Earthtools.org is using google maps, but it is rounding to 4 decimal places, which I have seen as being what should be put on the article as excessive decimal places, etc. Google gives you 6 decimals, for example The Spire in Dublin's city centre is 53.349802,-6.26026 using What's here. You may know that you need to take the absolute values of the coords, so -6.26026 is 6.26026 and put that in for the coords in the article. If you want minutes and seconds, you can convert in Excel with a few simple steps. So using 6.26026, you have 6 as the degrees, then .26026 * 60 = 15.6156 or 15 minutes, then .6156 * 60 = 36.936 or 36 seconds. This makes 6.26026 equal to 6°15′36″. There is some precision lost on the locating this point back to the map where the Spire is a good example of this. So you could say 36.9 seconds and that will look good. I hope that is helpful.

Perhaps you could list your articles that you are intersted in on your user page, along with those that you have created. I have seen people do that and it can be interesting. I think I will do that myself.

As regards churches and hospitals, I am interested in those too, but it is lower on my list at the moment. I am interested in things local to me along the South East of Dublin. I have been out taking pictures and will be hitting the city centre shortly.

If there is anything else I can help with, please let me know and if you are stuck for a photo for your articles, I can try too.

DubhEire (talk) 21:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

A quick question for either or both of you. Is there any tutorial that would cover the info above re using co-ordinates? There are many occasions when I would have liked to apply them to various articles, but seem to get tied up in knots. Or is it just something that geotaggers and other regular users of GPS info. have from outside Misplaced Pages? I have also started to take photos with the intention of uploading to Commons and applying to articles. All seems a bit daunting. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 21:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I found this tutorial useful WikiProject Geographical coordinates. I should say that I found Bing Bird's Eye view a good check, but their Bird's Eye pictures mapped to coord is off in quite a few places, but it is good for reference points to be sure you have dropped the point right. I just put the coords at the end of the article or in the infobox if it is there. I use this at the end of the article coord|53.349802|N|6.26026|W|type:landmark_region:IE|display=title enclosed in double curly brackets {} . You can change display=title to display=inline if you want to show other points in the article, i.e. other buildings in a large complex or battle sites or something like that.

Then go to this list for articles that need tagging Ireland articles missing geocoordinate data

I'm sure in due time an agreed format will be made and a bot will come along a format the coords in decimals or degrees, mins, secs.

Also, there is a discussion to be had about coords for articles where the actual building doesn't exist anymore and something else is there. These coords make the articles appear in the Google Maps Misplaced Pages layer and also in some iPhone applications. The time lag to appear in those external databases appears to be in months, rather than overnight or weekly.

DubhEire (talk) 23:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The WikiProject link was just what I was hoping for. Many thanks for reply. Lots to absorb and hope to soon be in a position to take up your suggestion of getting stuck in. Best. RashersTierney (talk) 23:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, very interesting, and as Rashers says lots to absorb. I've a few photos to put up of buildings, including churches, in the Liberties. Would like a photo of what's left of Church of St. Nicholas Within and St. Luke's Church, Dublin on the Coombe, also the Widow's House there and the portico of Coombe Hospital. I'll arrange a list of articles I'm working on on my user page, divided into geographic area and subject if possible, 'cos I do a lot of German and Italian stuff as well. Regards, Hohenloh 01:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I got most of those pictures today. I forgot about the Coombe, ah well. Hope that helps. DubhEire (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Good work! BTW, I've been using http://tools.freeside.sk/geolocator/geolocator.html for obtaining the coordinates and it works a charm! Hohenloh 23:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

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Adminship

After your comment on the whole orphan issue, I looked at some of your contributions, and I was impressed with your quiet dedication over the past few years, especially the coordinate missing edits, which I've helped with as well.

I think your input would be valuable on policy related discussions. Even though you and I may disagree on some of these, I've been very impressed by your approach, and hope you might think about commenting there. See you around. Shadowjams (talk) 08:29, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks. I've been concentrating on firstly finding my way round Misplaced Pages and then contributing to a number of projects that IMHO needed more input. I'd be happy to take a look at what you have in mind and would appreciate pointers. Regards, Hohenloh 19:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

WP Ireland in the Signpost

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Yes, sure. What do I need to do? Hohenloh 18:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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Mariners' Church

Thanks for the article. I'm a little too close to it myself. The windows have just been repaired, cleaned, etc - have a look : http://pbckt.com/sE.zBs - Do you want to visit it again? - regards - ClemMcGann (talk) 10:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like to pop out there again, sometime after Easter. Pictures look good, hope it will open this year? Hohenloh 12:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Wot was rong with wl of Commandant in the Irish Army??? ClemMcGann (talk)

opening scheduled for Oct 2010 ClemMcGann (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

website for external link: ClemMcGann (talk) 12:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Oooops! I just meant to rv that one edit, didn't mean to take your edit out as well! Sorry - I've replaced it (things like this always happen at embarrassing moments...) Hohenloh 12:33, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

I will have the dimensions in a few days. Then: File:MarinersChurchRepairs.JPG ; Now: File:MarinersChurchTwo.jpg ClemMcGann (talk) 15:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Overall Length = 35.5 Meters

Overall Breadth = 16.3 Meters

Overall Breath at transept = 29.8 Meters

Overall height of naive = 18 Meters

ClemMcGann (talk) 10:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Clem! Hohenloh 16:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

better pic :) ClemMcGann (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Music of Ireland

That's fine, I just inserted them because they added time-depth to the subject. Hopefully someone can come up with a practical use for them. Pre-17th century Irish music badly need investigation. Fergananim (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Agreed - good work. Hohenloh 15:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

St Audoen's

I put a link to St Audoen's Catholic Church, Dublin in the lead of St. Audoen's Church. Please feel free to move it if you see fit. Also someone requested that there should be a disambiguation page. Do you think that is required? I think we should look at naming all churches (at least Dublin) with a standard naming convention. There are a few subtle differences like St or St. or Saint for a start. DubhEire (talk) 14:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I think I'd edit the intro - the juxteposition of two similarly-named churches might prove confusing for the general reader, and there is no indication there that St. Audoen's is Church of Ireland. I think a DAB page would be no harm - just a matter of what to call it. I'd welcome a naming convention, and would suggest some common information in the church articles, ie, which sections should be included. I've been concentrating on old churches, so historical information preponderates, perhaps to the detriment of other information. FWIW, these are the church articles I've created (in the English-language Misplaced Pages): St. Kevin's Church, Harrington Street, Dublin, Mariners' Church, Dún Laoghaire, St. Mary del Dam, St. Thomas's Church, Dublin]], St. Mark's Church, Dublin, Church of St. Nicholas Within, Church of St. Nicholas Without, Dublin, St. Luke's Church, Dublin, St. Michael's Church, Dublin, St. Andrew's Church, Andrew St., Dublin, St. Peter's Church, Aungier Street, Dublin, St. Bride's Church, Dublin, St. Andrew's Church, Westland Row, Dublin, Church of St. John the Evangelist, Dublin, St. George's Church, Dublin, St. James' Church and Cemetery, John's Lane Church, Drumcondra Church, St. Mary's Abbey, Dublin, St. Kevin's Church, Camden Row, Dublin, St. Catherine's Church, Dublin, St Werburgh's Church, Dublin, St. Audoen's Church. I'd welcome further ideas/suggestions on this and with this in mind will take a look at church articles in other countries. Hohenloh 16:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

That's a good list. I agree with your naming convention. I have come across a few Saint blah. I would prefer it to be "St." and you have named all of yours that way. I think the name of the church followed by where it is to be good, where being street or city is fine. I should rename any Saint something to "St." that I have been looking at. I don't see it as a problem considering the good job the move tool does. I am using Misplaced Pages Beta so I just found where the move button is. DubhEire (talk) 18:32, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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Lark Camp

I am trying to bring the Lark Camp page up to the standards that you request and you keep erasing my work. Please either give exacting advice or leave the page unchanged. The page was started by Matthew Richards and turned over to me to work on. I am trying very hard to make it accurate. Thanks for your help. ] (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2010 (PST)Mickiezekley (talk) 02:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

I've been reverting the removal of tags on this article. I'll help edit the site to bring it up to Misplaced Pages standards over the next couple of days. Hohenloh 14:15, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Mickiezekley (talk) 17:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Sick and Indigent Roomkeepers' Society building

I got this photo today. I will load it to commons shortly. DubhEire (talk) 16:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

A bit too sunny today for photos, but I'm sure it will do for now.DubhEire (talk) 17:13, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks. I finally got the article created: The Sick and Indigent Roomkeepers' Society. This is just a start - I'll add further details shortly. Hohenloh 15:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Colm Ó Lochlainn

They are two different people. I don't understand why they should be merged. Fergananim (talk) 02:01, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah hell - really? Okay, let's merge them .... how do we do that??? Fergananim (talk) 04:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

It's been merged, just needs a little clean-up. Hohenloh 00:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Oldtimer Festival

I've translated a new german article and I need again a proofreader.

• German source: de:Oldtimer Festival
• English Translation: Oldtimer Festival

I am grateful for any feedback indeed. THX, bzw. VIELEN DANK again --Pitlane02 (talk) 21:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

HI, I was away for a few days. I'll take a look at it shortly. Hohenloh 16:48, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Dun Laoghaire Oratory

Since you said that you would welcome suggestions for church articles. My I suggest the Dun Laoghaire Oratory. Bring a good camera with you. Its tiny Its magnificent ClemMcGann (talk) 08:44, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree it is an excellent little gem. DubhEire (talk) 14:00, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

and rarely open. I once heard that it was not in favour because it commemorated Irish soldiers in WWI. don't know if that's true, but hopefully we have matured since then ClemMcGann (talk) 14:20, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

I see that it was built just after WWI in the grounds of the old Dominican Sisters and all the detail was pretty much done between 1920 and 1936 by Sister Mary Concepta Lynch who was a trained Celtic artist. I have yet to see visit but I am planning to do that soon as it would appear to be something that must be seen. DubhEire (talk) 12:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

An other Question about correct wording

I've an other question to a native speaker...

In the article Düsseldorfer Automobil- und Motorsport-Club 05 is the sentence:

The Düsseldorfer Automobil- und Motorsport-Club 05 e. V. (im ADAC) is the local club of the ADAC (German automobile club).

My Question:

This motor sport club is a small part of the big ADAC. Is the wording "...is THE local club..." correct, or is the wording "...is A local club..." better???? --Pitlane02 (talk) 18:26, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, if there is only one local club in the area referred to, then THE is correct. If there is more than one club in the area referred to, then A is correct (or also, if you do not wish to refer to a specific area). Here we are dealing specifically with one club, and referencing the area of Düsseldorf, so I'd say THE. Hohenloh 18:40, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Perfect! In Düsseldorf are more than one motor sport clubs, organized in the ADAC, I've corrected the sentence. Thanks again. --Pitlane02 (talk) 06:23, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

NonFreeImageRemoved.svg

I've an other problem, the Festival logo have copyright problems, and I know, that my English is bad, and more important, not good enough for law questions.

I hope it's not bold, to ask you again for your help?! --Pitlane02 (talk) 18:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Kein Problem - Du kannst auch auf deutsch fragen ! Hohenloh 22:48, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Auch auf Deutsch gefragt, komme ich nicht weiter. Ich verstehe die engischen "Fair Use"-Bestimmungen nicht. Die deutschen (ähnlichen?) Bestimmungen für Verwendung von Logos ausschließlich zu enzyklopädischen Zwecken ist irgendwie für mich klarer. --Pitlane02 (talk) 07:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Ich habe selbst die "Fair Use" Begruendung nie benutzt (vielleicht weil es auch fuer mich zu kompliziert war !). Ich werde versuchen in den naechsten Paar Tagen die Bestimmungen, usw, zu lesen...Hohenloh 17:44, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Zitat: ...weil es auch fuer mich zu kompliziert war... Auweia, ich hoffe, ich kann mich mal revanchieren. --Pitlane02 (talk) 18:05, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Lösung? Ich habe hab mir einfach mal eine andere Datei rausgesucht und dann das daraus abgeleitet, könntest Du mal querlesen? --Pitlane02 (talk) 09:35, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Es sieht OK aus. Falls das es nicht klappt, vielleicht mit einer niedrigere Aufloesung ausprobieren? Hohenloh 14:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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