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Happy Holidays

Thank you! I wish you the best, a very prosperous and healthy new year, Slrubenstein | Talk 03:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey Guettarda! Happy Holidays + Merry Christmas to you too.

Hey bud, haha, it has been long time since last that we chatted..... but, in the words of that crazy Trini radio personality George Umbala Joseph- "Felicitations and Reciprocation of the holiday seasons to you too." -- You know how they always have to speak real long-winded down dey'.

Hey, you know----- I wonder if we order some Kiss black-cake via Caribbuy.com if we could get de 'ting before Christmas? ;-) Ohh and a little bit of Punch De Creme to make the holiday much sweeter! :-D You know I could use a little bit of the Parang music juss-now to really make everything juss right. But on a more serious note, I wish you and your family all the best for this holiday season too. I still cyah believe 2006 almost reach! Oye, Pressure! Time to prepare dem New Years resolutions. CaribDigita 03:53, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your sweet holiday greetings, Guettarda, and I wish the same for you and yours : ) --MPerel 06:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad y/et Joyeux Noel to you as well. -JCarriker 07:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey!

How come everyone else got a Christmas greeting but me? I feel saddened........ :) Merry Christmas... Spawn Man 08:19, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too

Thanks for the Christmas greetings! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. I hope Oklahoma (or Trinidad and Tobago if you will be spending the holidays there) is treating you well. Japan is absolutely freezing, but I'll hang in there. Thanks again! -Parallel or Together? 10:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year. Guettarda 17:23, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! In the volume of work I actualy had forgotten the date. Best wishes. --Cool Cat 13:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

you too buddy. --kizzle 22:22, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy Hannukah to you!

I see you didn't have anyone wishing you a happy Hannukah yet, so let me be the first. Happy Hannukah! --Cyde Weys _vote 13:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too

would have replied quicker , but working in Carlisle all week, best wishes jimfbleak 14:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Have you seen Wikipedia_talk:User_Bill_of_Rights

Thought you might want to know... William M. Connolley 16:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC).

Meliaceae & Nature review

Hi Guettarda - following from the Nature review of Meliaceae, I'm fairly convinced (see Talk:Meliaceae)that Nature are wrong, or at least open to scholarly dispute, on one of their points. I'd like to check one major reference further, and wonder if it is something you have access to: Pennington, T.D. & Styles, B.T. 1981. Flora Neotropica Monograph No.28, Meliaceae (New York Botanical Garden). If you have access to it, could you check on the distributions of the three species of Swietenia, please? Thanks! - MPF 22:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! - that agrees more-or-less with what I'd found out off the internet, particularly the DANIDA seed leaflets (links at Swietenia), except that DANIDA give the range of S. humilis as all down the Pacific Coast from Mexico to Costa Rica, and list it as CITES Appendix II rather than I. My past experience of DANIDA (I've visited their HQ in Denmark and have quite a few of their pubs on pines) is that they're a high-powered, scientifically reliable crowd. - MPF 23:57, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Roaring Lion again

Hello, last summer we corresponded a bit (on our "talk" pages) about Roaring Lion http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Badagnani#Lion. Well, a daughter has just written in to the Roaring Lion talk page with some new information, listing several other children of Lion's which nobody knew existed (herself being one), but not listing the ones that we know about. She gives different spellings and capitalizations for Lion's birth names but basically confirms what we already knew about his adoption. She wrote from an anon IP so I hope she gets back in touch, because I have a lot of further questions for her. Maybe you'll want to help with this? BTW we've never verified the veracity of the toponym "Aroquita"; any luck with finding out if it's a real place? Badagnani 01:09, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm now in touch via email with Lion's daughter. Any interest, still, in following up with this? I'll ask about Aroquita, names, and some other things. Looks like "Yama" was "Llama" all along, too. Badagnani 02:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Great! Sorry to say that I'm unfamiliar with the abbreviation NOR, though... Badagnani 02:48, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Help

I uploaded an image of Ari Meyers within the the accordance established by Misplaced Pages (source and licence) and someone put it up for deletion because "it is unencyclopedic". The image is of good taste and just because it is a wallpaper image I don't think it should be deleted. Please view and if you can, express your opinion. Images and media for deletion/2005 December 24 Thank you, Tony the Marine 03:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

And a truly joyful and fulfilling New Year to you

Thanks so much for your kind Christmas greetings! Very kind of you to think of me! Ahm writing you from de tropics in Australia. It ain't so good as Trinidad, y'know - and dey ain't know how to party and cyant dance or talk de queen english - but at least it ain't cold cold like me mudder country, Canada, and dey does play cricket here too! Oh, Laws! I see y' writin how you stress out in america! Eh, eh! man, don vex y'self - and mind out for dat Yankee business - life too short, y'hear me? So, all'ya have a really good time, oui?

John Hill

And a merry christmas to you too!

By the way, you say you'll remove trolling from your talk page...but what about trolling the ancient yule tide carol? (Bad joke...) Ral315 (talk) 17:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

To you and yours at Christmas

Thank you for the warm wishes. May I extend Christmas wishes to you and all whom you love now and in the New Year. -- Cecropia 18:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

I pray you have a very merry Christmas and a truly blessed 2006. KHM03 19:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I hope you're managing to have a Trinidadian Christmas, and I wish you a stimulating and exciting new year. Hoary 21:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to add a "Happy Christmas" to you too, Guettarda, and thank you for your kind message. Hope that wiki-stress meter on your user page will soon be at Level One! AnnH 23:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

All the best to you, Guettarda, for Christmas and the New Year, and thank you for all your hard work around Misplaced Pages, and especially for the common sense and intelligence you bring to every discussion and article. ;-) SlimVirgin 00:14, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Guettarda; a (belated) Merry Christmas to you as well. Hope it was enjoyable! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:42, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks so much

When I think of all of us who worked together so hard for so long, I think of the line from Henry V We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...

It was a fun ride, wasn't it? So thanks you guys, that meant a lot to me.

Who did the Thelonious with a mop artwork? Brilliant! FeloniousMonk 08:20, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Guettarda, has been adding "Judenhass" as an example of a "political epithet" on List of political epithets. Based on the Talk: page comments, it seems pretty clear to me that it's just an example of WP:POINT, but I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking a look as well. Cheers, Jayjg 04:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

macroevolution

Hey Guettarda,

The intro to macroevolution is too hard for anyone to understand. In particular "large-scale changes in gene-frequencies" is tough for a newcomer. In wiki we have:

- Macroevolution is the concept that evolution of species and higher taxa is the result of large-scale changes in gene-frequencies over time.

Compare to google "define", where some of the definitions are much simpler :

1. Large scale change in organisms resulting in new species, genera, families, etc.
2. Evolution on the grand scale resulting in the origin of higher taxa. In evolutionary theory it thus entails common ancestry, descent with modification, the genealogical relatedness of all life, transformation of species, large scale functional and structural changes, etc.
3. Larger changes in evolution, such as when a new species is formed or a mass extinction.
4. The study of evolutionary changes that take place over a very large time-scale. Contrast to microevolution. Macroevolutionary change is usually recognised as change in gross morphology in a series of fossils. There is some controversy over whether macroevolutionary change is fundamentally just cumulated microevolutionary change, or whether the two are `decoupled' and driven by fundamentally different kinds of process.
5. The branching of new species from existing species.

The other thing about these definitions is that its odd that the wiki definition is different than all of these. It should express at least most of what the internet says.

-Justforasecond 02:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Hello, I wish you and your family a prosperous and happy New Year 2006! We shall surely remain actively involved in the Project Misplaced Pages. --Bhadani 16:37, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

thanks

Greetings Guettarda, I wish to offer my gratitude for supporting me on my recent nomination for adminship, which passed with the final tally of 65/4/3. If you would ever desire my assistance in anything, or wish to give me feedback on any actions I take, feel free to let me know. Cheers, and happy new year! Elle vécut heureusement toujours dorénavant (Be eudaimonic!) 09:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Wish you a happy and exciting new year 2006 =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:39, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

{{trinidadianmusic}}

Likelythey were removed because these were Music genre pages, which should not have Musicboxes, but genre boxes, with eventually a link in the Other Topics section.See the talkpages if I added {{infoboxneeded}} to these pages. Circeus 01:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Fair point, I guess. I might be too worried the article will end up with both the music and genrebox (I had to adjust quite a few of these already, and I was not even looking for them!). Circeus 02:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for keeping an eye on my user page! — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:08, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Court of law in Trenton, New Jersey

I've heard that expression before, but I can't remember what it means. I can't find anything on Misplaced Pages or Wikiquote. Please explain and/or direct me to relevant articles. --TantalumTelluride 02:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I found it: Misplaced Pages:I WILL SUE YOU IN A COURT OF LAW IN TRENTON, NEW JERSEY -- and Other Bad Jokes and Deleted Nonsense. It was a common legal threat by Mr. Treason. --TantalumTelluride 03:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Stressed?

I noticed your stressmeter said "A poisonous atmosphere pervades this place" and was at level 3. Why is that? What "atmosphere"? I hope you get better!

Maybe this lone tulip will help...Voice of All 04:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't be stressed. Stop by my talk page or drop me an email; the only poison in my atmosphere is a good shot of bourbon and a beer back. ;) · Katefan0/mrp 05:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Need more stress? Ponder Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Reddi_2/Workshop#Troika

Have you seen Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Reddi_2/Workshop#Troika? I don't know if this will fly - quite likely not - but if it did, someone from the bio side would be desireable: perhaps someone experienced in the Great Evolution Wars. Perhaps you? Or someone you know? William M. Connolley 11:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC).

Holiday wishes

Thank you so much for your very kind good wishes on my talk page. I'm sorry I was tardy in returning the sentiment, but I hope that your holidays were as joyous and fulfilling as mine. · Katefan0/mrp 16:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Michigan State University

Guettarda, Thanks so much for your help on the Michigan State University Peer review. I just put the revised article up as a featured article candidate. Please let me know what you think.

Oh, and to answer your question, I attended MSU from September 1999 to December 2004, graduating with a major in Spanish. I currently live in Lansing, but I am moving to American Samoa in 28 days, so I'm trying to finish the MSU article while I'm still in town.

Lovelac7 20:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

user page edits

Yes, it was I. For some reason, the computer (or Wiki <-- my bet, it happened from another computer on another network earlier today)) lost my logon temporarily and substituted the IP. I really appreciate the heads up, thanks! Jim62sch 01:54, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship

Justforasecond added to Deeceevoice arb

I have added a section on Justforasecond harassing Deeceevoice to Deeceevoice's arbitration. I have also proposed that JFAS be banned from contacting Deeceevoice, discussing her, and enforcing any arb ruling against her (let others do it--JFAS would just stir up more trouble doing so). My understanding is that arbitrations can be expanded to include any of the involved parties, so this should be permitted. Please go and read the measure and see if it is something you could support. Best, --Alabamaboy 16:47, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Healing Misplaced Pages

I wonder if there is a way to heal the issues and differences that DCV's arbitration has brought to the foreground? In some ways, this entire affair has been bad for racial relations here at Misplaced Pages. Those who don't like how DCV acts have said that their actions are solely in response to DCV not being "nice" (so to speak). Those who don't like what has happened to DCV (like me) see the affair as being driven by racism and bigotry. The funny thing is that there is overlap between the two sides. A number of those pushing to sanction DCV admit that some of actions against her have been wrong and haven't helped racial issues here (and that some of the users pushing the issue against her are doing so for possibly racist reasons). Almost all of us opposed to the actions against DCV admit that she is abrasive and has violated Misplaced Pages guidelines and should be more civil in her discussions here. What we see, though, is a double-standard at work, with users appearing to gang up against non-minority editors like DCV for being less than civil but not doing the same to white editors. If this subject interest you, I'd encourage you to post you thoughts here on a special talk page I created.--Alabamaboy 21:42, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Justforasecond

To put it bluntly, he's pissing me off. If he starts following me round like a little lost puppy, I will take it to the cabal in no time at all, and if that persists, the other cabal. I'm sick and tired of him. Rob Church 21:45, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Bah. Rob Church 21:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Glorious

... and thank you.  ;) I'm tired, hung over, and thoroughly satisfied! · Katefan0/mrp 16:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Good grief. Are you STILL bitter about the UT-OU game? Besides which, did you really want to see California beat a good Southern team? :D (Nothing like an appeal to regionalism!) · Katefan0/mrp 18:23, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, okay. And yes! I do! Because Austin is a blue oasis in a sea of red. That's such an unfair comparison! Austin IS a really cool place. I miss it terribly. And yes, OU does have an unhealthy obsession with UT. So does A&M, and most other schools in the state (which have "one-way rivalries.") I guess that's what happens when you're the big dog and everybody else has an inferiority complex. <DUCK> I offer detente kisses after my jabs -- your Longhorn friend · Katefan0/mrp 18:41, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Comments on SlimVirgin

Thanks for your comments on SlimVirgin's talk page, Guettarda, but my ability to assume good faith with SlimVirgin has dramatically decreased given some of the comments she has made about me which contain a fair number of incorrect statements and I find them very unfair, a situation made all the worse by the fact she hasn't responded to any of my clarifications. She may be an exemplary editor, but I like to think I am too and I believe I deserve some assumption in good faith also. I don't feel I am getting much. Talrias (t | e | c) 17:49, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship

Hey man, thanks a lot for voting in my RfA, I got it! :) If you need anything, just give me a shout. - FrancisTyers 01:00, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Feliz Día de Reyes

I would like to wish you a "Happy Dia de Reyes", a celebration that we still celebrate in Puerto Rico every January 6. The night before the children of the island fill a little box with grass for the kings camel and place it under the Christmas tree. When they wake up the following day, they find the box empty and gifts left by the kings God bless you my good friend Guettarda, your friend Tony the Marine 07:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias to Guettarda!

Guettarda, even though you did not support my RfA I would like to thank you for your comments, and for your fair hearing of my response. Now that I am an admin, if you notice me doing anything that you think is ill-advised or reminds you of the behavior you disliked at the SIIEG MfD, please DO let me know. Thanky thanky, and I shall see you around! Babajobu 21:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Rfa nom

Thank you for thinking highly enough of me to nominate me for Administrator. I have accepted. KillerChihuahua 13:12, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

evolution

If you have time please look at and comment on the most recent suggestion for reorganization. Also, I added material WAS deleted; I readded it, being more careful about the wording, and cited Menand (just look at my changes close to this time stamp) - I'd welcome your comments, Slrubenstein | Talk 00:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't get your response

Can you verify what you meant by your response on the Misplaced Pages: Eras page? I put a comment under yours at that page, if you don't mind could you respond there, please. PatrickA 16:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC).

White screen tip

Thanks for the tip... (things you find out only too late!!! :) Mikkerpikker 16:50, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Compromise on DCV and an apology

In recent days I have grown disgusted with Deeceevoice's comments and actions. As a result, I am withdrawing my support of her. That said, Justforasecond has behaved very poorly throughout this entire affair but more so in recent days, placing comments on DCV's talk page merely to stir up trouble. As such, I am proposing that both DCV and JFAS be placed on personal attack parole for a year at Perhaps this is a compromise that a majority of the parties involved could agree to. Please check it out and see what you think. In addition, as a side note to this I am apologizing for my use of "lynching" to describe this RfAr. Best, --Alabamaboy 20:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

List of sexual slurs

You voted to keep what is verifiable on the AfD. Are you aware how little that is?Voice of All 02:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

why did you remove my article?

why did you remove my contribution to the article? No explanation? No nothing, just removed? This is what I wrote:

"Historical records also show a correlation between increased human prosperity and higher average global temperatures. The Medieval Warm Period which immediately preceded the Little Ice Age was believed to be a 400 to 500 year event where average global temperatures were slightly warmer than today. This was also a period of increased crop production and increasing population. Records inferred from the geologic evidence suggest a similar prosperity for evolving land animals during periods of increased global temperatures. During the Jurassic Period, global temperatures were higher by 10 to 15 degrees farenheit. This is important since this warmer period represents a time in earth's history where the natural environment supported the largest land animals to have walked the earth. It was also a period where global carbon dioxide concentrations were approximately 5 times the level seen today."

Do you have a problem other than the fact that it is unreferenced? You say it is POV violation? Why would you say something like that when this is in the section entitled "Possible Benefits of Global Warming"? You didn't even say anything about it even though I posted my rationale on the discussion page. I really did not appreciate it.

Your addition is (i) illogical (human prosperity in the Jurassic?), (ii) unsourced, (iii) argumentative/unencyclopaedic is style, and (iv) misleading in the case where you changed a paragraph to refer to "the majority" of scientists (only means >50%), when it had previously said that "very few" held opposing views. Guettarda 07:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Deecee strawpoll

Yeah, that's fine that you removed it. This kind of thing would require oversight, anyway, which I couldn't offer right now. Maybe in a week or so I'll revisit the issue. Babajobu 23:05, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Scientific community

Hi there. Sorry to bother you, but I just wanted to let you know that I've put a little note into Talk:Scientific community regarding the ongoing mini-edit war on Michael Behe. I think the page is missing something relevant to the war and am soliciting opinions. Anyway, I thought you might be interested (though please feel free to not be!). Cheers, --Plumbago 09:53, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!!

Hey Guettarda! Thanks for joining Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Puerto Rico. I was so happy to see your name there!!!!

Hopefully we can work hard together to make people around the world learn and understand our countries in the Caribbean and Latin America.

By the way, congratulations on Trinidad and Tobago qualifying for the world cup! I reckon they will do good there. My dream is, although Im not much of a soccer fan to tell you the truth, that Puerto Rico's team qualifies someday. To tell you the truth , I always had four dreams as far as Puerto Rico: A world Heavyweight boxing champion, a gold medal in the Olympics, a Football World Cup appearance and independency. One (world Heavyweight champiuon boxer) already happened with John Ruiz the only Hispanic to have won that title. The second, independency or at least autonomy, may be closer than ever (with all the discussions about the status going on), so who knows maybe Puerto Rico will be in 2010's world cup!...Ok I know thats a little daydreaming but dreaming is for free! lol

Anyways, thanks for joining our project and God bless you! Hope to hear from you soon!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Machinery Martin'

Doubles "tweak"

Thanks for tidying it up a bit....now if I could only find some to eat here in the UK! Take care and speak soon.--Vivenot 16:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

RFC archive

Frankly, that was to see if anyone would notice. I don't think anyone ever reads those archives anyway. There's sense in keeping the pages, and people search for them as "requests for comment/some username", but the archive page had turned from a descriptive log into a useless data dump several months ago. Do you think it'd be useful? Radiant_>|< 21:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• Routine, mostly, based on my experience that if I don't clean out RFC, nobody else will either. The more issues are listed on RFC, the less attention any individual issue receives. If an issue is unlisted, that does not imply the debate must halt. However, if an issue has been listed for over a month, it will not likely receive more attention from that page by being listed longer.
• Personally, I find RFCs if I need to by looking at Special:Allpages. A quick glance at the dispute archive shows that most of its entries are not particularly more useful. I would welcome anyone's effort in creating a good archive, but instead of a sloppy one we might as well fall back on the automated one. Radiant_>|< 22:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

KC's RFA

Thanks for the heads up. I went over and signed it. I guess I was on break for too long! Thanks again. -Parallel or Together? 02:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

My RfA

I don't have a fancy layout like other new admins, but I just want to thank you for your support at my RfA. It passed 48/3/1, so I have officially been promoted. I hope I won't let you down. If I'm not doing something properly, please tell me. Aecis 21:08, 14 January 2006 (UTC) PS. I have proposed a {{drink-corp-stub}} over at WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals, so House of Angostura can be moved there soon ;)

& *my* RFA thanks

Thanks to you for your vote and especially for your support during my RFA. And of course for nominating me the first time round. William M. Connolley 20:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC).

Why the removal of links to Barbados maps?

I noticed you removed the links to the maps of Barbados on Caribbean-On-Line. These are detailed and useful maps, and not any more commerial than the links to Mapquest or MSN. Why were they removed and under what scenario if any would you deem them appropriate? Thanks - Anthony for Caribbean-On-Line

There are three problems with the maps - one is that we don't normally have multiple links to a single website - four links to one is excessive. Another is that we need some way to limit links, otherwise we would become nothing but a link-farm. The third thing is that the maps themselves are full of advertising (for example, the Kodak icons everywhere). It looks like the links were added more for the purpose of directing traffic to your website, rather than for the purpose of improving the article. The third criterion is the most important one - make a convincing case that the purpose of adding the links is for the good of the article, not for the good of the recipient link. I am sympathetic to anything Caribbean, but I need to look at it from the point of view of the encyclopaedia project. Guettarda 17:18, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I sympathise with your position - and certainly four links is too many; but regarding a single link, I would have thought it needs to be considered for each article whether the Caribbean-On-Line map is a useful addition. I've re-added it to the St Martin article, because it is better than the ones already there - indeed, one of the map sites already linked to principally contains links to the Carribbean-On-Line maps. TSP 18:34, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying this - we are just trying to add useful info (we really do believe that we have the best set of Caribbean cartography on the web). If it is preferred to only add one link to the main island map and not the cities/towns that is fine and we will abide by it. Most of the maps with ads are being updated actually and will not have ads in the future (yes the site does, but not the maps themseleves). Again - thanks for the feedback and being upfront about the criteria. Anthony

Could we add one link for each island we cover? My assistant says that links she added today have all been removed excepting St. Martin. Anthony

I see nothing wrong with a single link per article if they are good maps, but bear in mind that I can't speak for other editors. In addition, you might consider adding the maps of the cities to the specific article about the cities - a map of Bridgetown probably isn't appropriate for the Barbados article, but might be for the Bridgetown article. Guettarda 19:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying - we will follow this rough guideline you laid out here. Anthony

Other Users' Comments

Dear, dear, I seem to be a Wiki-Klutz (since Wiki means speedy that fits me, indeed). I goof up fast. I did not notice that I was editing anybody else's comments. I see comments used as a back-and-forth pseudo-e-mail and I thought everybody else was editing my comments, too. Some people want a reply on their page and some on my own page. If one puts in a reply some odd place instead of right after the item one is responding to, who knows if anyone will find her/his reply? Luckily I just noticed I started to edit your user page and got out of there. Welcome to reverse any of my comment-page edits and accidental edits on other users' pages. Carrionluggage 20:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I just figured out what you refer to - it was not my reply to KillerChihuaha, but some other tidying up I did. Tut tut - this is an encyclopedia and it seems to me that the English should be of good quality. Now, I do not edit quotations. For example, on the page for Judge Roy Bean I just saw "hung" used for "hanged." OK - that's a quote. But if somebody says he "Through out the baby with the bathwater" which a spelling corrector may even change to "Throughout the baby with the bathwater," seems to me that clarity and portability are enhanced by a fix. After all, non-English speakers read these pages and when they read bad spelling or syntax they may be frustrated (in their purposes, as well as their affect.) Carrionluggage 20:17, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Trees / inversion

Just read the bit about the tree genus on your homepage. Doing a google search you now come out top, and are far more famous than the thing you're named for. Is there a word for that sort of inversion? William M. Connolley 11:11, 17 January 2006 (UTC).

Plant sexual

So you're telling me plants run around behaving like people?--Piedras grandes 19:35, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic slur article

Hi,

I've replied to your comment on my talk page.

Thanks,

Primetime 20:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree with almost everything you said. However, I probably won't ever sign on to deleting something for not having a source. In any case, if you want to delete anything like that, I think it should probably be discussed on the talk page first. --Primetime 23:37, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi again,

I'm messaging you here to cut through all of that clutter on the article's talk page. So far, the only entry that I think should be deleted is "previous country stealer," as I think that zero Google hits is pretty compelling.

Primetime 19:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

You're right about "yooper," as well, as where one lives in a country as diverse as America does not imply a difference in ethnicity. --Primetime 20:39, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

If you want to remove anything from the article, you should add a {{mfd}} or {{disputed-section}} tag to it for a vote. Most visitors were unaware that there was even a debate occurring on the talk page. --Primetime 01:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

We should follow this policy:

If you come across an article with an accuracy warning, please do the following:

• don't remove the warning simply because the material looks reasonable: please take the time to properly verify it.
• visit the talk page to see what the issues are.
• correct it right away if you can. Please take the time to properly verify it.

We haven't tried to verify them yet. We should give their contributors time to come forward. We should also make an effort to verify them ourselves. --Primetime 03:03, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Pardon me, but that isn't a "policy", it's a suggested procedure. How much time do you think we should give contributors - days, weeks, months? The policy, WP:V, is not new. Let's say a week more. Then whatever still hasn't been sourced can start to be removed. We don't have to be hasty, but we need to get started. -Will Beback 03:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no reason why we should keep unverified material; anyone adding material is warned both by the comment text and by the boilerplate at the end of the edit box. Simple enough. Guettarda 03:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Apparently, the consensus on this page is to keep the first entries another week to give a chance for their authors to verify their work. --Primetime 03:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Keeping old material is one thing, letting new, unverified material into the article is a different matter. The addition I commented out (not removed) was added despite the fact that warnings were added, and despite the fact that I contacted the anon who added the material asking for verification. Guettarda 03:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

The guideline is to try to verify the material, regardless of when it is added. Thus, I think that not only should we give time for contributors to verify their own material, but we should make an effort ourselves to verify it, as well. --Primetime 03:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Assume good faith is not a suicide pact. Guettarda 03:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I've posted a note at Misplaced Pages:Accuracy dispute too. -Will Beback 05:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I was talking to Will, because I noticed that he has not made any known verification efforts. Thank you for trying to verify the entries. --Primetime

Hello? --Primetime 23:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Fine. I'll take delete my most recent remarks if you delete your most recent ones. --Primetime 23:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

So, what do you think? You just said a few things about me that I don't like. So, if I withdraw my comment, you should reciprocate just like you did when I posted it. --Primetime

I think that if you insult people and fail to assume good faith, and someone calls you on it, and you defend your insults, you don't then offer to "compromise" by saying "I'll delete my insults if you delete your post calling me on my misbehaviour". I think that's a ridiculous suggesting. When you misbehave you apologise and promise to treat your fellow editors with respect in the future. You don't make demands on other people. Guettarda 17:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I didn't add anything to the article. I was reverting a change to the article, so I don't need to source anything. --Primetime 02:06, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

provide a diff

providing a diff would depersonalize it. because you just said that verbatim without a diff, it was like...focused at him only. I'd change my mind if you could post a diff at the workshop.--Urthogie 21:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Your rationale

Hello Guettarda. I noticed you just want on a voting frenzy to delete, delete, delete. Do you have a particular rationale for this outburst of deletion votes? --Jason Gastrich 04:41, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Your description actions as a "voting frenzy to delete, delete, delete" and "outburst of deletion votes" seems to imply that there is something amiss with my voting in AfDs. When someone's page lights up like yours did, when it appears that someone is trying to rig votes at AfD, its obvious that I would have a look at what all the excitement is about. They were obvious deletes, so I voted to delete. So what's your reason for your "voting frenzy to keep, keep, keep" such obviously non-notable articles? Guettarda 06:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't implying that anything was amiss. I merely asked you about your rationale.

I find the entries notable. Since when was the president of a regionally accredited university non-notable? Did you know that one of the 10 Christian biographies that were nominated for deletion has already been kept? Did you happen to vote to keep any or did you have all delete votes? Just curious. --Jason Gastrich 21:13, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Cats

More importantly, what is your rationale for all the cats, cats, cats that are listed on this page alongside mine? Mine's obviously the cutest one. Your Longhorn friend Katefan0/mrp 06:15, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I need more cats in my life. Since I can't have a real one right now, I need as many as possible on my talk page. The picture of yours is special though, since I can connect it to one of the coolest people on Misplaced Pages, even though she is a bit confused as to the difference between up and down on a cow's head ;) Guettarda 06:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Puerto Rico

Please come to the Puerto Rico page and tell that anon user why his edit was reverted. I've started a discussion and urged him to discuss it, but he jsut keeps reverting.Gator (talk) 16:39, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

"Blocked admins"

Please read carefully. The statement is not "blocked admins should never self-unblock". The statement is "in those cases where a blocked admin should not self-unblock, he should also refrain from performing any other admin abilities". Radiant_>|< 19:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• On the contrary, if it's so obvious that it goes without saying, you should definitely support it. I've reworded the header to make absolutely clear that admins may unblock themselves in a number of circumstances. The reason I'm writing this is because certain snarky users (you can probably guess who) have been abusing this loophole to "legally" get back at others while blocked. Big duh that they should not. This poll is not a rules proposal, it is simply a gauge of public opinion. I should hope that public opinion is against snarkiness. Radiant_>|< 19:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Was this closed???

Grant Jeffrey does not have an Afd anymore. Look here:

Now, pardon me but Inferno9891 is not an Admin, why is he removing Afd notices?

KillerChihuahua 21:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

He did at least two: Andy McCracken and Grant Jeffrey, both replaced now, but sheesh. He's a newbie... KillerChihuahua 21:31, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Sirry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.183.138 (talk • contribs) . (UTC)

Creative Commons

Haha, well I am certainly not a copyleft expert though I have read around a little bit on these issues. In any event, I've never heard of a case of a Creative Commons license being tested in court yet, or any copyleft license for that matter (except the GPL, in Germany only). Which doesn't mean it isn't true -- I am often totally out of the loop on such things -- but Googling around a bit doesn't turn up much either (the CC website FAQ has nothing either), so I'm inclined to think it is either really recent or hasn't happened yet. --Fastfission 21:56, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ellen Johnson

Hi, seems you accidentally entered your contribution twice to the above debate. I've struck one and signed the edit. --kingboyk 17:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Smithsmith

Hi, I noted that you had interacted with User:Smithsmith on global warming talk. He recently posted an uncalled for personal attack against WMC on Talk:Medieval Warm Period added onto some old JG attacks from last May. I deleted the attack and archived the old pre arbcom talk on that page. I also notified Smithsmith on his talk and advised him to read Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks. Just giving you a heads up. Cheers, Vsmith 02:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

What exactly is a "Fooian"

and why should it have a template, but not something as well known as good or bad? I've never even heard of a fooian--Piedras grandes 04:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)