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The 404 (Podcast)

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The 404 was repeatedly deleted and eventually salted. I recently requested the use of it as a redirect to an Ontario highway with the page remaining locked, but it now seems an unlocked redirect has sprung up as an article. Delete as a podcast. Nothing notable to be discussed, resulting in an article that is a essentially a compendium of trivia. ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  ¢ 17:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

This article sources 9 different independent reliable outlets that discuss the show, thus it covers the significant coverage,reliable, sources, and independent of the subject guidelines stipulated in Misplaced Pages:Notability. The article also displays "significant independent coverage," as the subject of the article is covered in numerous sources as discussed previously. This article does not serve as self promotion, as it is created independently of the show's hosts and it provides a complete knowledge of all facets of the show. The notability of this article is not temporary because the independent sources have all been posted in differing time periods between 2008-2010. What else is needed? 17:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:54, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Dont Delete I understand that previous attempts at creating this page were poorly sourced, but this time, it has a majority of outside, independent, reliable sources, and I don't think it should be deleted just because it wasn't properly created before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frebel93 (talkcontribs) 19:57, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Delete: Neither the NPR, nor the Fox News article, mention the podcast, and the others are either blogs, forum posts, or related to the podcast itself. Also, the enormous external links section suggests self-promotion. Fails WP:WEB in several ways. Has no independent reliable sources either, so it also fails WP:RS. --Fbifriday (talk) 20:29, 10 July 2010t (UTC)
  • Dont Delete This podcast is notable because of the variety/notability of the guests it has had, and its large audience. Its hosts have been featured in a variety of different outlets, and the show is known throughout the tech community.The article is not a stub, but a fully fleshed out page, with strong community support. This article shouldn't be deleted because it provides such a rich source of information and it reflects well on Misplaced Pages as an institution. It is a very well laid out and visually appealing page, that informs the reader on many different levels. This article shows what Misplaced Pages can be at its best

Frebel93 (talk) 20:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Frebel93, you do not need to continue updating the page with your opposition to deleting the page, once is plenty, and the fact that you have not signed some of them, it appears that you are attempting to "stuff the ballot box", however, remember, this is not a vote, it is a discussion for consensus, based on guidelines and policy. --Fbifriday (talk) 21:00, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Final Post Im not trying to flood this page, but simply trying to represent the don't delete opinion. The reason some of them are unsigned was simple oversight on my part, this will be my last post. I've said all I can, I simply don't want this page to be deleted out of spite, I want the administrators to consider everything when making thier decision. I thank you all for your time and I encourage anyone to contact me with your thoughts Frebel93 (talk) 21:16, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Delete: The gold standard that I use for a podcast is TWIT. The show hosts and majority of guests are well and can be understood. This on the other hand reads like a minor sub-sub program (CBS -> CNet -> CNetPodcasts -> The 404). In addition it seems like most of the content is the Inside Jokes and "Who we've had" sections. I can only claim knowing 4 or 5 of the people on the Notable Guests list. In all, I think the reference on the CNet Networks Podcasts says everything that needs to be said. Hasteur (talk) 23:36, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
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