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Hi. If you put your responses in middle of another editors comment it confuses the reader. By "splitting" the comment the first part is unsigned and who is saying what will be unclear. Please reformat your comments so that it does not "break" another editors comments. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe I did so.JRHammond (talk) 16:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

My bad. Sorry, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Six-Day War

Template:Uw-3rr2 ← George 06:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Tell it to Jiujitsuguy, George. I've rightly corrected the article to comply with Misplaced Pages's NPOV and verifiability policies. Jiujitsuguy 3 times now has undone my right and proper revision, to make it read in a manner that violates that NPOV policy.

The last time he undid my edit, he did so with the comment that there is "no consensus" for it. But that's just the point, a perfectly good reason for my edit. As you will observe on the Talk page, there is no "consensus" that the attack was or was not "preemptive". The sentence thus, by his own logic, read so as not to assert either POV as fact, as my corrective has properly done.

I will continue to re-do my edit so long as Jiujitsuguy (or anyone else, for that matter) continue to undo it so that the sentence asserts as fact what is a subjective judgment, in violation of Misplaced Pages standards and policies.

Take your complaint to Jiujitsuguy, with whom it would have legitimacy.JRHammond (talk) 07:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

"I will continue to re-do my edit so long as Jiujitsuguy (or anyone else, for that matter) continue to undo it..." IOW, you're vowing to continue edit warring in direct violation of Misplaced Pages policy. Unacceptable. Enigma 16:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

July 2010

Notice of enforcement action--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Notice of discretionary sanctions

As a result of the Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles, the Arbitration committee has acknowledged long-term and persistent problems in the editing of articles related to Israel, Palestine, and related conflicts. As a result, the Committee has enacted broad editing restrictions, described here. These editing restrictions may be applied to any editor for cause, provided the editor has been previously informed of the case. This message is to so inform you. Enigma 17:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocked 31 hours

For a clear violation of WP:3RR. Please note that whether you think you're right or not, or whether you think you're restoring "NPOV" or not, does not affect whether or not it's edit warring. Unless you're removing clear vandalism or defamation (not the case here), it is edit-warring, period. If you persist with this behaviour after returning from your block, you will be blocked for a lengthier period of time. Enigma 19:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The 3 revert rule states "An editor must not perform more than three reverts (as defined below) on a single page within a 24-hour period." I did not perform more than three reverts within a 24-hour period. Therefore, I did not violate WP:3RR. Restore my status. JRHammond (talk) 01:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

You made four reverts on July 16, after inserting material that did not have consensus on the talk page. Enigma 16:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Let's be clear on the facts, here, because you don't have them straight. I made TWO reverts on July 16. I know of no rule stating any limitation on the number of EDITS one makes, only the number of REVERTS.

The first was because 24.23.193.232 had reverted the text to violate NPOV. That's not an opinion, but a point of fact, by his own admission (he acknowledged it was a "viewpoint", yet his revert made it read as a statement of fact). So my revert of his revert was perfectly appropriate, and my reason for it was agreed to by the person whose undoing I undid! So what was the problem here? There was none.

My second edit was NOT a revert. Acknowledging the correctness of my point and reason for my revert, 24.23.193.232 then added a caveat to the sentence. I found it acceptable, but made was a minor edit, changing "was" to "is" because it should properly have been simple present tense, as it is true today. So what was the problem here? There was none.

The third edit I made was also not a revert. I inserted additional factual information into the paragraph, fully sourced, neutral and verifiable. Did adding further information in such a manner violate any Misplaced Pages policy? If so, what protocol did I ignore? I understand that: "The Misplaced Pages community encourages users to be bold when updating pages." What was the problem here?

Jiujitsuguy then undid the information I added, without any legitimate explanation. So I added it once more noting that the addition was factual, neutral, sourced, and verifiable and requesting on the Talk page that if anyone has any problem with it, they should air their concerns and comments instead of just undoing my edit, since it was factual, neutral, sourced, and verifiable. Again, I fail to see the problem, or what WP policy I violated by doing so.

So, as you can see, that's at most two "reverts" (I only clicked "undo" once). I therefore did not violate 3RR, and you're block on me is therefore wrong and inappropriate. I suggest you get your facts straight and exercise better judgment next time, so as not to repeat this mistake in the future. JRHammond (talk) 02:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I would also note that the 3RR page states: "Considerable leeway is given to editors reverting to maintain the quality of a featured article while it appears on the main page."

I maintain that all my edits improved the quality of the article, including in the case of the first revert, which was done so the article did not violate WP:NPOV, and the second re-insertion of additional factual material, fully sourced and verifiable. Yet, I was not only not shown leeway, but blocked despite the fact that I CLEARLY did NOT violate Misplaced Pages 3RR policy -- which you would have known had you bothered to take the time to actually investigate the matter seriously. What is with this prejudice, Enigmaman? Explain yourself. JRHammond (talk) 02:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You very clearly did violate 3RR, but hey, I've seen this before. You will never admit it. Edit warriors never want to admit they're edit-warring. Anyone can see the article history, you know. Enigma 06:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)