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Child protection

I notice your interest in child protection and would be interested to hear your thoughts on an issue that I came across recently. I was involved in mediation of a dispute on the Monty Hall problem page. Note that this mediation ended some time ago. During the mediation, the mediator at one time suggested that he wanted to start private mediation with individual editors and wanted to contact me off-wiki by phone, IRC, or Skype to help with the mediation process. I declined to accept this although I was put under some pressure by the mediator and other editors to do so. My reasons for doing this are given in full here ] and discussed at some length later on in that page.

One of my reasons for not complying was child protection. For the most part, Misplaced Pages is a relatively safe place for the vulnerable but you can see clear child protection issues arising when editors can be put under pressure to speak privately to another person. I was staggered by the mediation committee's lack of understanding of this subject.

In the end I changed the mediation policy to state that private mediation can be declined without giving a reason. There was some resistance to this to start with but my latest additions are still in place. Whether this is because they have become accepted as a consensus view or because no one notices or cares I do not know.

As the policy is fine now, I am not asking for any action by you but I would be interested to hear your views on the subject. Martin Hogbin (talk) 13:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

One of the mediators AKG has now confirmed that he supports my policy changes, so the situation would seem to be resolved. I would still be interested to hear you opinion on the subject though. Martin Hogbin (talk) 12:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Martin. My personal opinion on this is that no editor should be forced into off-wiki mediation for any reason. It's a breach of privacy and is worrying, especially in the case where minors are involved. Children should, IMO, be actively discouraged from contact with adults by phone, etc. It's a disaster waiting to happen and impacts their privacy and safety. In short; yes, I agree with you - Alison 05:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Something's fishy

Please confirm that User:AliceMushroomsDwinlol is your alternate account. Otherwise, I will recommend it for blocking as an evasion of block sanctions on the account User:Mickey Darwin. —Duncan / What I Say 10:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

It's obviously not Alison. --Bsadowski1 10:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
This would be Mickey Darwin or GEORGIEGIBBONS again. Color me shocked, I say!! :-D - Alison 05:31, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

File:Pedobear.png

Please add to MediaWiki:Bad image list. Kthnxbye. Jolly Ω Janner 13:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

 sorted ;) - Alison 04:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Unblock 3Network

You would appear to have blocked IP editing from the 3 Network. I know that you personally don't want any IP editors, but this block is improper and disruptive. DuncanHill (talk) 12:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

You also have a semi-protected talk page, with no readily apparent alternative method for non-autoconfirmed/IP editors to contact you. Please rectify this. DuncanHill (talk) 12:07, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Alison, could you comment at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#3 mobile blocked, where DuncanHill is requesting a review of this rangeblock? Thanks. Fences&Windows 19:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
See my comment there as well; it seems perverse that we allow Brucejenner to continue socking because a rangeblock would cause "collateral damage", but are happy to rangeblock one of the biggest mobile phone networks in Europe. It ought to be both or neither. – iridescent 20:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
LOL - good grief already. I take 24 hours away and this happens? :) Okay, in no order;
  • DuncanHill, please read WP:FORUMSHOP and take it on board for next time you go on a shopping spree.
  • If you want me to unprot my talk page, or any other for that matter, just ask. Don't go to WP:RPP to stir drama, waste bytes, and cause trouble. As others have pointed out, one glance at this ridiculous prot log for my talk page will explain everything. About 1% of all anon edits here are constructive, the rest are stuff like "I am going to shoot you in the head and laugh as your brains splatter onto the ground and blood pools around your corpse" or "I am going to rape your children and mutilate their dead bodies" - stuff like that. It goes with the oversight/checkuser territory, and largely washes over me; the main issue being the timewasting on everyone else's part that goes with things like this. I'll unprot it now, just for you :) - see how things go.
  • You make very good points indeed about {{checkuserblock}} and, fortunately, they weren't lost amongst the vitriol. I see that FT2, Roger and others have made great improvements to the template, so that's good progress :) tho' I see you're still not impressed
  • Surprisingly - and this comment is for Iridescent too - that particular /16 segment of Hutchinson 3G Network (H3GUK Subscribe Block3) is surprisingly quiet apart from - *coff* - a small few constructive editors (the useragents on CU make that very clear), some registered editors, and bored teenagers like GEORGIEGIBBONS and that Mickey Darwin guy. And again, as a CU and admin, one has to weigh up the access of unregistered editors versus the torrent of timewasting socking, vandalism and other shite that emanates from that netblock. My personal feelings on anon editors never reflects on my blocking actions here; rules are rules and I resent your (DuncanHill's) suggestion that I did this out of some sort of personal bias. That is not the case at all and indeed, I welcome any other checkuser to review this rangeblock and act accordingly. No agendas here. BTW - the Hutchinson 3G Network spans quite a number of other ranges; it's one subsection of the overall 3G network. You can get more info here, for example.
  • A one-week softblock is not "ostensibly indefinite", no matter what way you slice or dice it. This range has been blocked before and will likely be again, unfortunately.
  • Next time you mention someone on WP:AN or WP:ANI, the polite and proper thing to do is let them know with something like {{ANI-notice}}. In fact, the edit notice says you must. Just sayin', since we're talking rules ...
  • To Iridescent: yeah, the BruceJenner thing seems really unfair compared to this. However, without going into too many details, that guy is all over the place and it's particularly hard to nail down his IP ranges without causing a lot of problems for a lot of people. And, as you say, things are only going to get worse as people migrate to mobile networks which have by definition, short DHCP leases. And I really don't know what the answer to this one is. That other vandal - the Colonel Saunders guy - uses Blackberry ranges exclusively to create accounts to circumvent softblocks, for example. My personal experience of complaining to ISPs is that it's a waste of time and energy & most of them couldn't care less.
Ok, back to sleep I go. Better things to do right now - Alison 05:09, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh and matter of interest, here's another example of an escalating rangeblock of a similar ISP, along with a report here - Alison 05:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

See...

these... did the rangeblock on JDH's home IPs expire? If so, shouldn't it be reinstated? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 01:53, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

RE: Gheo

Haigh :) Ní bhfaca mé d'teachtaireacht go dtí anois. Conas atá tú? Dornálaíocht (talk) 17:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

LOL - conas tá tú, a bhuachaill? :) Yeah, táim ar scor ar Vicipéid anois agus is fearr liom mo uaireanta a chaitheamh ar áiteanna eile ;) Ar aon nós, fáilte anseo! - Alison 05:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Paul Baltes

Thank you for your help. I've now been reminded that WP:RFO would have been a better route to go. Cheers, David in DC (talk) 17:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

E-mail

Alison; recent e-mail I sent you. It is potentially urgent in wikipedia terms, and I would be grateful for an answer. --Anthony.bradbury 17:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)