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Advanced 3O request

Hey Sandstein,

Since you are an AE sysop familiar with EE disputes, including the Gdanzig vote I assume, could you please take a look at this edit of mine which is being charged as going against that vote here. I ask pre-emptively, to avoid any escalation, and don't expect you to get involved in any content dispute. Regards Skäpperöd (talk) 14:08, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Done.  Sandstein  14:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Microformats#

You recently !voted on Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Microformats. This is a courtesy note to let you now that I have now posted, as promised, my view there, and to ask you revisit the debate. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 15:11, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of page: Buddhist Terrorism

Although I disagree with your decision to delete the page, I will stay by the majority's decision. Now how can I recover the content from the deleted pages? I need to incorporate them into other articles. Children of the dragon (talk) 21:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Only admins can recover deleted content. One of the people in Category:Misplaced Pages administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles may provide it for you.  Sandstein  05:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

unblocking of User:Mario1987

Is under discussion at ANI. Contacting you as blocking admin. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

SVP..? Neutral..?

How "Neutral" are they? A "Neutral" article can only be written for a "Neutral" party. Not for a non-"Neutral" fending from common "Xenophobia" - party? Would you at-least put up facts? Not just praises? http://en.wikipedia.org/Swiss_People's_Party

Hello. Even if the subject itself is not neutral (which political parties seldom are), our article about it must be neutral, see WP:NPOV. Both praise and criticism do not belong in an article, only relevant facts and analysis referenced to reputable reliable sources, see WP:V and WP:NOR. Please read the Misplaced Pages policy pages I've linked to, they explain how to deal with these problems.  Sandstein  14:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

non latin text

thanks for the unblock, I am going to change the flag to something else, a little less controversial - that should be easy. the one problem I have, is not being able to have Japanese text on my signature, I could understand if there were particular issues with the Japanese text that I had on there, or if you said no controversial or nationalistic Japanese text, but what was the problem with the previous text? Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 16:25, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that most people here can't read Japanese, and so can't determine or verify whether Japanese text in your sig is another nationalist insult if somebody complains about it, which frankly is a possibility with anything you do given your history. And I am not confident in your ability to determine whether something is controversial or nationalistic. But, as I said on your user page, I am fine with you using Japanese text in your sig if you first discuss it on WP:CCN or another community forum and nobody complains about it.  Sandstein  20:45, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

WMC reblock

I have serious misgivings about your reblock and block extension of WMC. Not only can it be interpreted as wheel warring (you undo the previous decline of another admin to impose further sanctions), I also find it exactly the "respect our authoritah" kind of block that does no good. The original block was borderline at best. We do give users wide latitude on their own pages, and we allow them to reasonably rant about admin actions on their own talk pages. Please reconsider your block. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

A "previous decline of another admin to impose further sanctions" (which decline?) is not an administrator action and an action that is not taken cannot by definition be undone; consequently, my block does not undo an administrator action and is therefore not wheel-warring. On the merits, William M. Connolley violated a clear restriction, authorized by community sanction, not to edit the comments of others, period. Any latitude users may be given under certain circumstances does not authorize them to disregard explicit sanctions. Your comments therefore do not cause me to reconsider my block.  Sandstein  21:40, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if my grammar was unclear. "Decline" was a noun here. Atama had already declined the unblock request. That was the admin action in question. You then re-declined it, with additional sanctions. I find this both unproductive and inappropriate. There was no substantial violation of the sanction (and it's indeed questionable if it can cover non-CC pages), and just like editors should not rely on technicalities over substance, neither should admins. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 21:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

An administrator action is any action that requires administrator privileges - declining an unblock request does not. Imposing new sanctions cannot be construed as undoing anything. Whether the violation was "substantial" or not is not relevant. If William M. Connolley is of the opinion that the restriction did not or ought not to apply to non-Climate Change-related pages, he should have appealed the restriction or the block using this argument, rather than repeating, to no apparent purpose except to make a WP:POINT, what another admin had already sanctioned as a violation of the restriction.  Sandstein  22:01, 18 August 2010 (UTC)