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I was googling and found an earlier version of this article. You might be able to use some of it. Flatterworld (talk) 17:28, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

"Controversial", and "false" claims

User:Truthsort has twice reverted my edit of the following material (my additions are in bold):

Eric Boehlert, a senior fellow at Media Matters for America, concurred with Hooper's sentiments, remarking that "she's been instrumental, she has whipped up hatred in the right-wing blogosphere and now that's spilled out into the wider community." Media Matters has suggested that "Geller's history of outrageous, inflammatory and false claims, particularly when it comes to issues related to Islam, demonstrate that she cannot be expected to make accurate statements and should not be rewarded with a platform on national television." (for talk page purposes I am removing the provided reference to preserve formatting)

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Controversial postings on "Atlas Shrugs" have included a number of false claims, including that Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan (who is Jewish) supports Nazi ideology (accompanied by a fake picture of her in a Nazi uniform) (for talk page purposes I am removing the provided reference to preserve formatting), video suggesting Muslims have sex with goats, a doctored photo showing President Obama urinating on an American flag (for talk page purposes I am removing the provided reference to preserve formatting), and false claims that Obama's mother was involved in pornography and that Obama dated a "crack whore".(for talk page purposes I am removing the provided reference to preserve formatting) Geller has also used her site to accuse President Obama of anti-Semitism and doing the bidding of "Islamic overlords," while posting an essay suggesting, without any evidence, that the President is the "love child" of Malcolm X.(for talk page purposes I am removing the provided reference to preserve formatting)

On my talk page and the edit summaries, User:Truthsort has made various accusations that this edit is WP:OR, that it is my "personal analysis", a "novel synthesis" of previously published material, and that it is "uncited". I take exception to his claims. To point out that Ms. Geller is "controversial" seems, well, not very controversial. That her claims cited in the article are "false" is also a demonstrably true statement, and provides necessary context for the naive reader. Finally, the material on the Media Matters statement is indeed well-cited.

I have no wish to get into an edit war, however Truthsort seems intent on keeping out relevant, well-cited, and acceptable material. I hope s/he will refrain from further disruptive editing. Arjuna (talk) 05:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Edits by Arjuna909

Arjuna has added unsourced content calling her postings as "false", and being "without any evidence". The sources that are used in this section are the Huffington Post and from her website. The Huffington Post makes no mention of these postings being "false". This is clearly a violation of Misplaced Pages:Verifiability in that this type of content needs to have a reliable source. I removed the MMfA content he added because it is undue weight. There is already criticism from MMfA in the article and more content from here will just give a disproportionate amount of weight. Truthsort (talk) 05:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I have already addressed much of this above (it would have been more useful if you had added this into the section I created, but since you are relatively new here and may not have understood the need for convenience, I will do it for you). The false nature of these claims is self-evident, and thus needs no citation in the article (I mean seriously: Kagan, a Jew, supports Nazi ideology?). Does a sentence characterizing the claim that "the sun rises in the west" as "false" need to be cited? Can you possibly be serious in suggesting this? That would be very post-modern, indeed. Arjuna (talk) 06:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

1. Cite error: The named reference QueenHP was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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