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User:Jtkiefer/userpage/talk

User:Bonaparte

He's appealing against his block. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Requested unblock. As you were the one who blocked him could you comment? Thanks. Secretlondon 17:09, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. Jtkiefer ---- 21:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Promotion

Why should I approve you as an Burocrat? WikieZach 19:19, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Because we have an impending need for more bureaucrats and I have been here long enough and know the policies well enough to be a good bureaucrat. I also have always had good interactionswith my fellow editors and have a firm idea of what the flow of Misplaced Pages is like. Jtkiefer ---- 21:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk page deletion

May I ask why you deleted your talk page? From what I've seen, while it is all right to delete one's user page, administrators in general should not delete their talk pages. For instance, please see Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive23#Deleting (not merely blanking) one's own user page. Could I ask you to undelete the deleted versions, please? — Knowledge Seeker দ 01:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes but that is in reference to deleting actual posts, all the posts from this are archived in unmodified form so there is no similarity between the two. I deleted my talk page because I have no need for the old revisions (comments are archived) and I have taken to deleting old revisions of most of my userspace pages. Jtkiefer ---- 02:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but deleting the page destroys the edit history. For your user page, since you're the primary contributor, it doesn't matter as much, but for your talk page, it does. Please restore the edit history. — Knowledge Seeker দ 02:40, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Ironically in terms of characters I am probably also the largest contributor on this page as well due to the number and size of replies I have to write but that's neither here nor there. There is no reason why this makes a difference since nboody needs the edit history of the talk page and it can be pulled up (by admins or devs) if needed as well as the fact that all the actual text is archived in my talk archives so I must with all due respect decline your request. If you still feel you want to push this please by all means bring this up on AN, AN/I, or an RFC. Jtkiefer ---- 03:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Boothy443

If I had my way he would have been perm blocked a long time ago as a troll and a vandal but since many people are too thickheaded to see what he actually is I guess this will have to do. JtkieferT | C | @ ---- 03:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

This should get you started. Have fun. 04:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Boothy makes wikipedia less enjoyable.evrik 04:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I have filed an RFAr here and I encourge anyone who feels that they are a party in this issue to add themsleves as well as adding their view. Jtkiefer ---- 05:38, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I had just recommened an arbcom case aginst Boothy on AN/I...finally. We can have the correct medium to deal with this user.Voice of All 19:45, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about Rfb

Sorry to see your Rfb failed. Better luck next time. --a.n.o.n.y.m 23:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks. Jtkiefer ---- 23:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

AWB

On Misplaced Pages talk:AutoWikiBrowser, you said "I'm not sure the verification is working though since for some odd reason when I forget to log in it still lets me edit using AWB so you'll probably want to recheck and fix if needed the verification code." I've been testing it out and the AWB doesn't let me edit without logging in. The AWB checks if you are logged in in Internet Explorer. Maybe, you weren't logged in in Firefox or another browser, but the AWB let you edit since you were logged in in IE. Could you please try logging in and out in IE and seeing if the flaw still exists, or if it was just a mix-up? Thanks. --M@thwiz2020 19:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll test it when I get a chance and I'll let you know on the AWB talk page. Jtkiefer ---- 23:28, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

CoolCat's RfA

I've deleted this, and I am pleading with you not to undelete. CC is self-destructing and I've done this for his own good. I know it is out of process, but it is I believe in everyone's interests. I'm on IRC if you want to discuss it. Thanks. --Doc 23:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree it's best for him, I just think that the original blanking and note was an insult aimed at cool cat thus my previous reverts. Jtkiefer ---- 23:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

main page redesign template

I have removed the main page redesign template from the main page as it is unecessary, distracting, and blatantly innapropriate for the front page. If you want to advertise it then keep an advertising template on the top of Talk:Main Page and advertise it on places like AN and village pump so people will know about it. Jtkiefer ---- 00:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

You're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I strongly agree that the message didn't belong there, and I was very surprised to see that it had been added.
I was just involved in a major (and directly related) dispute with the person who convinced an admin to insert the banner, so I didn't feel comfortable making the call to remove it myself (because it would have appeared as though I was spitefully attacking his work). Instead, I decided to merely templatize it, tone down the wording, and wait for someone else to pull the plug. —David Levy 00:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Boothy443

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Boothy443. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Boothy443/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Boothy443/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Kelly Martin (talk) 02:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Main page redesign template

Hello. Thanks for your message, which did not include a single pleasantry. I put the notification on the main page at the request of a member of the Misplaced Pages Usability project. It seemed a reasonable request to me. I am sorry it offended anyone. I attempted to discuss the addition first, and no-one objected in advance. I shall not re-instate it, and shall retire somewhat grumpily from the affair. --RobertG ♬ talk 09:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)


Main Page Redesign election

When the replacement for the Main Page is ready for everyone to vote on, would you object at that time to posting a notice at the top of the Main Page? --Go for it! 20:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

A discussion has begun on how to handle an official election for replacing the Main Page. To make sure it is set up sensibly, your input is needed. --Go for it! 20:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes I would because the main page design is still something that is only going to interest a relatively small number of people and will clutter the page for everyone else, I'll comment on the proposal when I get a chance. Jtkiefer ---- 20:22, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

OpenInfo

Hi, JTK. You seem to know a little something about (according to the block log). I'd appreciate any feedback you have on WP:AN#OpenInfo. Thanks. --Deathphoenix 20:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

JTK, Please see the comments left by Eliezer. What you were reporting as a personal atack by me, was in fact a quote from someone else who had written something on my user page. OpenInfo 22:57, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Fresh comments on case

Hello and thank-you for the work you did in Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/WebEx and Min Zhu/Workshop. Our arguments with each have gotten stale so it's interesting hearing other peoples comments. --FloNight 01:05, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Your RFA vote

Hi Jtkiefer. I have tried to address the concerns about 'blatant' editcountitis, which I don't understand ... I do look for 1000 edits, and 3 months, but I don't think this is unreasonable, and is minimal if anything. MONGO has posted some examples, and I have tried to address them (I think only one of them was a case of 'editcountitis', and that was mild). I would like to clear things up, though, so if you have any further questions that might help you gain a clearer picture, please let me know via my talk page. If you would be able to ealaborate on my 'reactions to other editors', that would also be great, as I think I have always endeavoured to be civil; it's one of the reasons I like Misplaced Pages. Regards, Proto t c 12:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Editor's personal info on Wiki 7 weeks later

Hello, Jtkiefer,

Regarding the Shiloh Shepherd discussion, you recently blocked editor Tina M. Barber for attacking other users and revealing personal information of other editors. Thank you.

Do you have the skills and authority to get a former editor's personal information off Wiki? Editor Barber posted this seven weeks ago, and we on the other side of the disagreement have been unsuccessful in getting it removed. And, Wiki should have done this immediately; we shouldn't have to bring this up multiple times, hoping someone will take action.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Shiloh_Shepherd_Dog/Archive_1#Page_Move It's item 7, "Comical."

"Comical On the contrary, the vandalism is being propagated by the "sliver" breeders, mostly "Shiloh Lover" aka and posting from his WORK computer!!! (Bold Canine) is the manager at , and his superiors are being informed about his Vandalism! I highly doubt that he is going to consider this very funny after his system is inspected!"

It is difficult to convey how frustrating and outrageous this is to us - that the info is still there, despite Wiki's policies and despite our efforts. According to the former editor, editor Barber did contact his work. In addition, she posted his info on her chat lists (approximately 4 of them) and told her supporters to contact his employer, too.

The editor left the Shiloh discussion when Wiki took no action re: editor Barber (well, posted a warning on her user page) and when he saw his info was still posted.

If you aren't able to remove the info, can you please advise me on how to get that done?

Thank you, S Scott 17:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)S ScottS Scott 17:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Succesful RfA!

Thank you for your support during my RfA! The community has decided to make me an administrator, and there's work to be done. I look forward to seeing you around the project in the future, and if you see me do anything dumb, let me know right away! Regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 23:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)


User:Bonaparte

Okay, he did a bad thing, but was a indef. block absolutely necessary? I mean the guy is obviously intelligent, demonstrated fluency in about half a dozen languages, and is an overall asset to the site - I think if we trained him some, we could allow him to edit productively. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 15:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes it was necessary since he was running a malicious botnet and was using sockpuppets to violate all sorts of policy, he was also extremely incivil to other editors and repeatedly violated WP:NPA. Jtkiefer ---- 20:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay then, thanks for responding - weren't you the guy that blocked Boothy443 :-) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 03:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

trolls

I happened across this comment of yours, when checking to see if Xed was staying out of trouble. Unfortunately, he is continuing to be unecessarily contentious. It appears to follow upon Raul's comment about "idiotic comments" by all kinds of people. I suppose that would be me, as well as mark, and danny yee, and others. I rather think that I am anything _but_ a troll, I have certainly never been labeled that before. I find it rather distressing that any criticism of any arbitration decision is knee-jerk labeled "trolling" (yours) or "idiotic" (Raul's). The comments by these various users, were apparently not without merit, as several of the arbitrators on that case have now changed their votes, or moved to abstain, in response to community concerns. I don't know if any of the others raising concerns could fairly be labeled "trolls", but I'd certainly encourage you to identify who among them might be, before tossing around a blanket statement like that.

"It definitely brings the trolls out of the woodwork. JtkieferT | C | @ ---- 01:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)"

If I have misinterpreted your meaning on this one, please let me know. Derex 19:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I read it that way from the immediate surrounding context, but I know how these things can be misinterpreted. I am pissed at Xed, considering how many people went out on a limb for him. I'm also probably a bit sensitive, as I am aware that standing up for Xed is pretty unpopular in some corners. I really feel like I've been more standing up for transparency, open government if you will. Anyway, thanks for clearing your meaning up, and I don't quarrel with what you did mean. Derex 20:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah but it didn't stick,I started an arbcom case against him which is ongoing right now which will hopefully end in a solution in which he'll behave since I'd rather he be a good contributor then need to be blocked (again). Jtkiefer ---- 03:19, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Your revert of MY talkpage

What do you think you're doing? The next time you revert my edits to my own talk page I'll file an RFC. How dare you accuse me of "abusing" my powers. What planet are you on? Have you not seen Radiant's poll in which a majority of users have said the rollback is for any revert? Don't bother me with this again. freestylefrappe 01:14, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I think we all agree that Freestylefrappe has gone beyong the bounds of good behaviour on several occassions, but edits like this one really don't help matters. - SimonP 02:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I'm blocking you for three hours to cool down. This sort of thing is highly inapropriate. Don't reward others' bad behavior by mirroring it. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:01, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

The STFU remark was worse, but together, I suppose it does warrant a short cool-off break.Voice of All 03:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Ditto, but please don't take the block too hard. Trust me, people like FSF, and for that matter, participating in arbitration cases, can be draining on a person's diplomatic sensibilities. If anything, it was likely done out of concern for you more than anything else. Karmafist 03:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I have extended the block to 12 hours, and I will be blocking Fsf as well. This is very inappropriate for admins. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 03:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Whoa, hope everything goes alright with you two. εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 00:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

tropical cyclone articles

Are you really going to go through and reorder the categories in all 500 tropical cyclone articles, just to try to prove a point? Don't you think that's wasteful of both our times? Jdorje 20:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd rather not have to but Since you brought to them to my attention I'm gonna run over them with AWB. Note that the categories aren't a main issue, AWB also has the ability to actually fix formatting issues in certain other stuff as well. Jtkiefer ---- 20:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Yet in a number of the articles your only changes are to reorder the categories. I do not mind legitimate use of AWB, nor do I mind occasionally having to fix category sorting when AWB breaks it. But to go out of your way to break the ordering of articles borders on vandalism in my opinion. If the categories aren't a main issue, just turn off the category sorting, and then I will thank you for having given the articles a run-through. Jdorje 20:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Please respond

Do you take requests to participate in RFCs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MilesD. (talk • contribs) 22:50, February 1, 2006 (UTC)

Please Respond (cont from directly above)

Thanks much. I hope I'm not explaining this in too confusing a way. The same person you blocked on 1/26 Tina M. Barber is personally attacking again and using sockpuppets. She regularly uses two different names ...Tina M. Barber and MaShiloh. Now, she has also posted a personal attack under IP address 24.242.252.125. All previous posts by this IP address were signed "Carmen", but today it was signed MaShiloh. I think this may have been a "mistake" and she meant to sign "Carmen" but "messed up". Also, we think she cut/pasted from a blocked IP because directly under the post you will see "Warning: Since you started editing this page, an administrator deleted it. You might want to check the deletion log to see why." So she might have switched IP's, cut and pasted, forgot to sign "Carmen" and forgot to delete the message she received when her first try was blocked.

I hope this makes sense. It's hard to figure out all the devious ploys people use to get around things...I'm just not that slick. But I think many of you admins have more experience with the "tricks" people use.

All three of these "names" have been personally attacking throughout this whole discussion. The one today (referred to today) is: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Shiloh_Shepherd_Dog#Pictures

If this is true, I think all should be blocked for a good long while....Tina M. Barber, MaShiloh, Carmen and/or IP 24.242.252.125. She hasn't answered Aecis' original Pin04 thing (I think an admin took down some of the personal info, but mine is still on the talk page), she hasn't responded to the RFC. I don't think she cares since she just keeps getting away with it.

An RFC has also been filed against her and we would appreciate your input if at all possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Tina_M._Barber

Please advise if possible and Thank you. |||MilesD.|||

My suggestion is to post on AN/I and get some feedback on what the best response for this is. I personally have no ideas. Jtkiefer ---- 01:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Hi Jtkiefer, thanks for participating in my RfA discussion. Unfortunately, my fellow Wikipedians have decided at this time that I am not suitable to take on this additional responsibility, as the RfA failed with a result of 66/27/5 (71.0% support). If you voted in support of my request, thank you! If you decided to oppose me at this time, then I hope that if I do choose to reapply in the future, the effort I will make in the meantime to improve and expand my contributions to Misplaced Pages may persuade you to reconsider your position. All the best, Proto t c 10:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about?

What is vandalism, what are you talking about? 216.248.124.210 08:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)