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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.

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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
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{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | hook       = ... that this ] is an  ''']''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author     = User
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 | comment    =
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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 2

Davara

Created by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • NOTE: I've just finished this article in my sandbox after several weeks of leaving it in my userspace. DYK rules mean that this is still eligible for a DYK since it was just transferred into the mainspace today :)-White Shadows 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Skipper W

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Scouter's Key Award

Created by Ericalford (talk). Nominated by Rlevse (talk) at 19:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

C. Joseph Genster, Metrecal

  • ... that C. Joseph Genster of Mead Johnson developed Metrecal in 1959 as part of a weight loss craze that had dieters subsist on nothing other than the 900 calories offered by drinking four cans a day?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

John Phillips (fighter)

  • ... that John Phillips was the first fighter to test positive for banned substances in the Cage Rage promotion?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 16:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Movimiento 2D

  • ... that the Movimiento 2D is a Venezuelan opposition movement founded and led by the editor/proprietor of the daily El Nacional?

Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Greenbelt Cooperative Publishing Assn., Inc. v. Bresler, Dorothy Sucher

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:05, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Marvin Bracy

Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • It is cited in the article. Parson's record is 10.23, Bracy ran a wind-aided 10.18. Saying that Bracy would've bettered Parson's record if it wasn't for the wind assistant, is—in my opinion—neither WP:SELF nor WP:OR. —bender235 (talk) 16:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Colonia Cuauhtémoc, Mexico City

Torre Mayor in Mexico City

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 13:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Mr San Peppy

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 13:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Tabera

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Luis Beltrán Prieto Figueroa

Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 09:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Protein pigeon homolog

Created by Boghog2 (talk). Self nom at 05:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • It looks good, but I think that it could be hookier:
ALT1: ... that inhibiting protein pigeon homolog may provide a treatment for Alzheimer's disease? Brilliant! Your hook is much better.  Done
I think people would be more likely to click on it like that. One other thing, do we know what its function is other than to cause the formation of beta amyloid? If we do it would be good to include it. Smartse (talk) 16:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I will see what else I can dig up on this protein and expand the function section if possible. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 19:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I've edited your hook slightly to take out an unneeded comma. I hope that's OK. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Church of Saint Laud

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Labrador Sea, Northwest Atlantic Mid-Ocean Channel

Past sunset at Labrador Sea

  • ... that the Labrador Sea (pictured) contains NAMOC, one of the world's longest underwater channels?

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 05:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I suggest this slightly amended hook, as I feel that the NAMOC acronym needs to be spelled out and the original hook was missing the word "the". Also, only one item should in bold type. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Coprinopsis variegata

An egg-shaped mushroom with surface scales and forest as a backdrop.

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • All good, just suggest a small tweak of the hook:
ALT1... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and digest soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive enzymes?
You've written that they are chemicals in the article, but could you check the source to see if they are in fact enzymes? It seems more likely to me. Smartse (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
I agree they are likely enzymes, but the source uses "compounds", and does not go into any detail about the nature of these compounds. I also checked the primary source, and the author does not speculate about this, so I think we should go with the generic "compounds" as in Alt2 (added slight tweak in wording to avoid repetition of "digest"). Thanks for checking, Sasata (talk) 19:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT2... that scaly ink cap mushrooms (pictured) can attack and consume soil bacteria by growing hyphae that secrete digestive compounds?
Damn NOR! Better go with ALT2 then. Smartse (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

1967–68 ABA season

facade of the Teaneck Armory, with a green lawn, flagpole and tracked armored vehicles in front of the building.

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Lawrence E. Roberts

African American man in full Air Force uniform

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Ernest Spybuck

Ernest Spybuck, Absentee Shawnee Artist. ca. 1910

Created by Taoboy49 (talk). Nominated by Sadads (talk) at 02:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Council

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 00:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 1

Francis Sumner (millowner)

engraving of stately home

5x expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 22:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Brazilian ironclad Barroso

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 18:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Petar Parchevich

A purple shield with two standing goats and a crimson band with three six-pointed stars in the middle surrounded by gold, white and purple decorative elements and topped by a gold lion rampant

Created/expanded by TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 13:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Jan Błachowicz

  • ... that after missing the whole of 2009, Jan Błachowicz returned at KSW XIII to defeat two opponents on the same night?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Dawid Baziak

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Scottish surnames

Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The Bill

5x expanded by 5 albert square (talk). Nominated by Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 08:07, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

1996 Football League Second Division play-off Final

Created by User:Brad78 (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Final Shot: The Hank Gathers Story

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 02:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Virgil Ardelean

  • ... that Romanian police officer Virgil Ardelean avoided having to take sides in the 1989 Revolution by feigning deafness when his superior ordered him to become involved, instead getting sent to the hospital and kept in bed for otitis?

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: In my opinion, this particular biography of a living person requires close checking before it is appropriate as front page material. Each of the three very large paragraphs making up the bulk of the article has a single citation at its end; but I am not wholly confident that the references involved support everything said in those paragraphs. Material such as "In 1994, sensing that the Caritas Ponzi scheme was about to collapse, he ordered" seems very speculative - even if the source does support it, shouldn't it be phrased differently? Shouldn't it be made clear that one commentator or historian suggested that (in their view) the orders he gave were as a result of his beliefs about the fate of the Ponzi scheme? "The village is populated by ethnic Hungarians and Roma" - it is now? it was then? it says so in the sources? it says so in the particular source at the end of that paragraph? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Umm, as far as I can see, the article is much better referenced than just a single ref at the end of each paragraph. ""The village is populated by ethnic Hungarians and Roma" is clearly referenced in ref 1 in the present tense (i.e., it's still populated by Hungarians and Roma). While your comment about the Ponzi scheme action may have some validity, I don't really think it's a major concern, so as to require "close checking before is appropriate as front page material". This is DYK, not FAC.
  • I have reviewed the article for DYK (hook referencing, length and date) and I intend to verify it, so please reply as soon as you can if you have any further comments. TodorBozhinov 18:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you both from your comments. In regard to the Caritas issue, I have added another source supporting the claim, rephrased it a little, and added Ardelean's denial that there were hidden diskettes. Everyone agrees they were searched, but there is uncertainty about other facts, and I have tried to reflect that. In terms of what is sourced from where, every footnote refers to the text preceding it within the paragraph, so for instance the first paragraph is sourced to the Ziua article. Please let me know if I can alleviate other concerns, either here or on the talk page. - Biruitorul 20:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • All looks good. Reference for the hook AGF because I can't read that particular language. Thank you for the further improvements to, and clarifications about, the article. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

List of American Basketball Association awards and honors

Created by K. Annoyomous (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

  • I have read through the article and I have no issue with the length of the article and hook or any concern about the factual accuracy of the hook. My question is that we should probably avoid hooks that are basically in the form that "there are X entries on List Y", which could be generated for any list article nominated at DYK. There were so many great athletes who played in the ABA, and making some mention about the unique accomplishments of any one of the 80 basketball players mentioned in the article would probably make for a better hook. Alansohn (talk) 15:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Rena Kubota

Created by Jfgslo (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 22:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Webster (Florida politician)

An older man is shown from the chest up, looking into the camera and smiling. He is wearing a gray suit, red patterned tie, and blue shirt. His hair is gray, and the background is a steely blue.

5x expanded by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that Daniel Webster (pictured) was the first Republican Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives since Reconstruction?


Kucadikadi

Lucy Telles, Kucadikadi basketweaver

Created by Uyvsdi (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Rin Grand Hotel

5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Lepidophthalmus turneranus

Close-up of elongated translucent pink crustaceans with flattened, opage white claws.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 21:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


First Māori elections, 4th New Zealand Parliament

Formal seated portrait photograph of a man in his 50s holding a patu.

  • Comment: Both articles were created in userspace and were moved to mainspace on 1 September.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC)



Edward Mead Johnson, Mead Johnson

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)



Electrica

  • ... that Electrica has an electric power distribution network of 116,500 km?

5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 17:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Franklin Brito

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 17:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

The facts in this case are so in dispute that I'm not sure an WP:NPOV hook can be drafted. (For example the proposal above doesn't convey the government's position that there was no such takeover, because the disputed titles applied to land that wasn't Brito's.) It's also already included in ITN's "recent deaths". If we must have it, though, we might as well correct a substantial flaw in much of the Western media coverage, which is the impression that Brito lost his entire farm, and have some kind of hook which clarifies the dispute was over part of his farm. Rd232 19:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Aziz Çami

Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Very badass! I think this fact deserves to be highlighted! I'd like to suggest an alternative hook:
ALT1 ... that when Aziz Çami tried to assassinate Zog of Albania in the Vienna State Opera house in 1931, the king pulled out his own pistol and returned fire? -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

St John the Evangelist's Church, Leeds

The interior of a church with an arch containing an elaborately carved screen in front of which are carved pews

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


value-added modelling

  • ... that value-added modelling rates teacher performance by comparing prior and current year student test scores and can be used to award bonuses to top performers and fire those with the lowest ratings?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Franz von Hipper

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Escape of the Provisional Revolutionary Government

5x expanded and new article by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 12:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

East River Road Historic District

Ornate Gothic Revival house, heavily ornamented with gingerbreading

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 10:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Aktio-Preveza Undersea Tunnel

Created by Athenean (talk). Nominated by Athenean (talk) at 07:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Labia minor

  • ... that Labia minor is chocolate-brown and up to 7 mm long, including the pincer?
  • Comment: For once, it's nice to be able to benefit from the confusion this animal's name provides!

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Haha, I think the hook can be improved though:
ALT1 ... that Labia minor are chocolate-brown, up to 7 mm long, and equipped with pincers? Smartse (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Brilliant. Both hooks are approved - love the suggestive, but not so suggestive picture. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 11:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
In the alt hook, I've replaced "have" with "equipped with"; see parallelism (grammar). Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Harris Dental Museum

A small white brick building with windows on each side of the front door

Created by Nyttend (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 04:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Jacob Mayer

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 31

Domenico Annibali

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Adelaide Borghi-Mamo

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

French ironclad Océan

A three-masted warship with its sails furled. The top of the funnel is barely visible over the forecastle.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 18:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


French ironclad Suffren

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 18:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Reinert Torgeirson

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 08:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Children of the Stars

  • Comment: Image requested from director/producer. Awaiting reply.

Created by Ling.Nut (talk). Self nom at 07:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Swastika (Germanic Iron Age)

Created by Dbachmann (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Mont Pleasant, Schenectady, New York

Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Pensacola and Atlantic Railroad

Created by User:Textorus (talk). Self nom at 22:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

COSMIC cancer database

Created by Abergabe (talk). Nominated by Rockpocket (talk) at 17:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

1952 Winter Olympics

5x expanded by H1nkles (talk). Nominated by H1nkles (talk) at 16:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Abaz Kupi

  • ... that the antifascist and freedom fighterAbaz Kupi was the founder of the Legality Movement, which aimed to return Zog of Albania back to his throne?

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 15:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Podgorica–Shkodër railway

Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Bajzë Rail Station

  • ... that the Bajzë Rail Station was completely cleaned up in 2003 from toxic chemicals dumped in 1991-92?

Created by Your Über Monkey (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 13:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

USCGC Point Arden (WPB-82309)

  • ... that the USCGC Point Arden, an 82-foot USCG Point class cutter originally designated as WPB-82301, later acquired the name Point Caution when the Coast Guard started naming all cutters longer than 65 feet?

Created by Cuprum17 (talk). Nominated by MC10 (talk) at 01:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Edward A. Gisburne

Round portrait of a stern-faced young man dressed in a suit.

5x expanded by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 01:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Leymah Gbowee

5x expanded by USchick (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

George Alexander Parks

Governor George Alexander Parks of Alaska Territory

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment: An example of what can happen after your boss assigns you to escort a group of dignitaries. --Allen3  22:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Hipposandal

Hipposandal

  • ... that the hipposandal was a metal shoe laced to horse hoofs in Celto-Roman countries?

Created/expanded by Rama (talk). Nominated by Rama (talk) at 22:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. I hand't noticed that requirement. I'll try to beef it up a tad. Thank you! Rama (talk) 06:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Should be a bit better now. Thank you. Rama (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


Ancient Church Orders

  • ... that Ancient Church Orders is a genre of early Christian literature which has the aim to offer authoritative prescriptions on matters of moral conduct, liturgy and church organization?

Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

X-Men: First Class (film project)

Created by Jhenderson777 (talk), -5- (talk). Nominated by TriiipleThreat (talk) at 20:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Plön Castle

5x expanded by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 20:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)



St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe

A stone church with a prominent embattled west tower incorporating a large arch, and the relatively small body of the church beyond it

  • ... that the tower of St Michael's Church, Cowthorpe, North Yorkshire, (pictured) has been described as "more like a castle fortification than a religious symbol" and its arch as "more suited to a cathedral than a small country church"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Lords of Finance

Created by Remember (talk). Nominated by Remember (talk) at 18:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Walter Powell (politician)

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 18:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I've changed balloon > hot air balloon Smartse (talk) 17:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I've also moved the article to be (politician) rather than the dates. Smartse (talk) 17:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Jacob Bigeleisen

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Qemal Butka

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 16:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Jersey Circus

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 12:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

James Pierrepont Greaves

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

¿Por Qué Te Tengo Que Olvidar?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Black-spotted whipray, brown whipray

A brown, diamond-shaped ray with black spots and a whip-like tail, in shallow water next to a pier

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


William W. Evans

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Verified. Clamshell Deathtrap (talk) 09:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Pete Ladygo

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

1689 Boston revolt

Governor Andros a prisoner of Bostonian rebels in 1689.

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 04:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


George V. Chalmers

Man in 1930s vintage football equipment without helmet cocks back throwing arm with football in hand

Created/expanded by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 03:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Kannagawa Hydropower Plant

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 03:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC) 16:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Mill Creek (Lake Erie)

A large, concrete tube with a creek flowing into it.

Created by Niagara (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah

Created by Vmenkov (talk). Nominated by Vmenkov (talk) at 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: I have no idea whether Ghiyasu'd-Din Naqqah's hometown was within the borders of today's Iran (rather than say, Afghanistan or Uzbekistan), but Shakh Rukh's embassy is described by Anglo-American academics (e.g., Timothy Brook) as "Persian". Contribution from anyone with the knowledge of the language and access to the primary source would be appreciated, at least for spelling the person's name in the original script! -- Vmenkov (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 30

John A. Kirkwood

Created by Jwillbur (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Senostoma

  • ... that members of Senostoma must kill their hosts when ready to emerge?
  • Comment: Kind of an experimental hook. Quite a few parasitoid creatures out there, and I thought that maybe the less said, the better. "Kill? Host? Who, emerge for what?!" Rather than, "Oh, just another fly larva inside a beetle..." Open to ALTs, of course, though think the parasitoid habit is probably the best material to use. Maedin\ 07:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Maedin (talk). Self nom at 07:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Groom kidnapping

Created by Ekabhishek (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Ivan Gannibal

Portrait of Ivan Gannibal, 1780s

Created/expanded by Y (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


825th Tank Destroyer Battalion

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 13:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

So how many houses did the other 824 Tank Destroyer Battalions destroy?TSRL (talk) 22:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Bombing of Singapore (1944–1945)

Created by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Anthony Roberts (basketball)

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

White Boar

Created by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 20:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

- which is a bit of a hyperbole, as a couple of dozen cannonballs and other stuff helped too. Or:

Åre Old Church

Åre Old Church

Created by Philaweb (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Agustarello Affré

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Ada Adini

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, South Cowton

A stone church seen from a slight angle, with an embattled tower on the left, the nave in the centre, and the chancel on the right

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 10:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Reger-Chor

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Treaty of Bonn

5x expanded by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Srnec (talk) at 02:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

French ironclad Marengo

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Viktor Nemkov

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Nominated by Paralympiakos (talk) at 22:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Francisco Drinaldo

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton H-47

The last surviving Hamilton H-47 airliner

5x expanded by RuthAS (talk). Nominated by TSRL (talk) at 20:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


David Einhorn (rabbi), Har Sinai Congregation

Photo of Rabbi David Einhorn

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach (1888-1913)

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

HMS Chatham (1812)

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

George Garrard

  • ... that artist George Garrard (1760-1826) made plaster models of farm animals, and successfully lobbied Parliament to introduce legislation to protect the copyright of British model-makers?

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Safet Butka

Created by Aigest (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 14:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Isaac and Miria

Created by Itzjustdrama (talk). Self nom at 14:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't know that could be a problem. How about *ALT 2: ... that Isaac Dian and Miria Harvent are characters of the Baccano! light novels and anime, set in the Prohibition-era United States, but also appear in the Durarara!! anime, set in modern Tokyo? 'Course, I don't know if that's very interesting ~Itzjustdrama 14:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
That's actually better, yes. DS (talk) 23:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

John Franklin Alexander Strong

Black and white portrait of man with white wavy hair and handlebar mustache wearing a dark suit and white shirt with wing collar

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Danish Golden Age

C.W. Eckersberg: Woman Standing in Front of a Mirror, 1841

5x expanded by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Elekhh (talk) at 12:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Haverfordwest election, 1571

Created by Claritas (talk). Nominated by Claritas (talk) at 12:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Suoi Chau Pha

Created by Anotherclown (talk). Self nom at 12:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Azotobacter

Azotobacter cells viewed in an optical microscope Instant pudding
Ice cream sundaes Ice Cream Dessert

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 11:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Nah - I think it's fine as is, perfectly accurate and no need to dilute the hook with extra words. You can equally say that a saw is used in the production of wooden objects, or whatever. Le Deluge (talk) 18:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
    Adding alginic acid would make the hook more accurate but less intriguing, thus fewer people would be interested to read the article. I think it is one of those cases when the hook doesn't need to describe all details. Materialscientist (talk) 21:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Rice production in Romania

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The reference still points to the same site and a search facility can't be used as a reference. I've had a look for another source that could be used but haven't had any joy. Smartse (talk) 09:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Done. Finally :) BineMai 14:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, but now the article needs changing, since the reference says production was 14,000 tons rather than 49,000. Smartse (talk) 18:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
The production was indeed 14,000 but in 1994. I put that reference not for the figure itself but to ilustrate the ranking. BineMai 19:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

1957 Maryland Terrapins football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 05:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Bob Topp

to relay plays onto the field from the Browns' bench? Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Spot-fixing

Created by Francium12 (talk). Nominated by Francium12 (talk) at 01:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Walter Eli Clark

Black-and-white head-and-shoulders portrait of a clean shaven man with dark hair in an early 20-th century business suit

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Redundant reference has been added to save reviewer from having to look to the end of a two sentence block that is supported by a single source. --Allen3  23:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

List of NME number-one singles from the 1970s

A black-and-white photograph of four males playing in a band; one drummer, two guitarists and a vocalist.

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 29

Adelaide Malanotte

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


Scouter's Training Award

Created by Ericalford (talk). Nominated by Rlevse (talk) at 01:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

None of the citations are self-published. Five are sourced from organization's website. Sixth is from individual who did research on this subject. Ericalford (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
There aren't a lot of sources on this topic. I'll contact the creator about the copy issue. — RlevseTalk19:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Only content directly copied were list of requirments for earning the award. As these are requirement, I did not see how they could be deviated from or changed. Ericalford (talk) 20:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Well, I still think it would be more appropriate if the hook were a fact that does not come directly from the (large) part of the article that is copied and pasted from the organization's own website. But maybe others view it differently. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Aboriginal Memorial

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 00:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Sverre Krogh (Nazi)

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

al-Mabda', Iraqi Communist Party (1960), Daud as-Sayegh, Ittihad ash-Sha'ab, Associations Law

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Lorne Kidd Smith

Created by Nikkimaria (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Mei Yamaguchi

Created by Jfgslo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Promise Neighborhoods

Created by SteveChervitzTrutane (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Mimi Lo

Created by Music + Pageants (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 03:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Le Castle Vania

Created by Kindzmarauli (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamilton Hill, Schenectady, New York

Created by Camelbinky (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Alexander Pendarves

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Megaliths in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

Dolmen near Lancken-Granitz

Created by Skäpperöd (talk). Nominated by Skäpperöd (talk) at 05:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Tom Beckman

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The 30 years isn't that interesting (and long service is implied by a relatively senior job), it would be nice if it was something along the lines of "was in charge of new vehicle launches at General Motors when XXX model was launched"? Helps bring it home to people if they can link him to something they see on their streets every day. Le Deluge (talk) 10:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the source does not identify a specific model or list of models. If the 30 year part is a concern, we could go with the following alt hook:
  • 30 years isn't a concern, just a bit dull. Even if the specific source doesn't say what models he was responsible for, it would not be WP:OR to say that on the one hand he was in charge of new models between 1999 and 2004 (or whenever), and a separate source to say that GM released model X in 2001 and model Y in 2002. A hook could reasonably say that models X and Y were released whilst he was in charge of new models. OTOH, it would be WP:OR to say that he was in charge of releasing models X & Y. Like I say, I just thought it might make it a bit more tangible if you can relate him to something people are familiar with. Le Deluge (talk) 01:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Valerie Bettis

5x expanded by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Andy Anderson (baseball)

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

George Roubicek

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 01:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

827th Tank Destroyer Battalion

  • ... that the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army was withdrawn from combat after less than a month's service, after reports that officers had threatened to shoot their own men?
  • ALT1:... that when first ordered into combat in 1945, the 827th Tank Destroyer Battalion of the US Army had three men shot in brawls before it even left camp?
  • Comment: I personally prefer the second, but I'm not sure how best to phrase it to make it clear they shot each other, rather than encountering opposition surprisingly early...

Created by Shimgray (talk). Nominated by Shimgray (talk) at 00:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Freedom of the press in Ukraine

Created by User:Mariah-Yulia (talk). Self nom at 23:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Length and date verified, but proposed hook is not supported by the reference. The reference states that Ukraine received a "partly free" rating in 2007, but does not mention its previous ratings. I think the other fact mentioned in the reference is more interesting:
"... that Ukraine is considered to have the greatest freedom of the press of all the former Soviet Union states?"
--Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

J.D. Short

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 23:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

..or indeed ALT1: ... that the American singer, J.D. Short, sang the blues after he had both of his testicles shot off? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  • ... that Japanese pagodas, with very rare exceptions, have an odd number of tiers?

Created by Urashimataro (talk). Nominated by Urashimataro (talk) at 23:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Gene Alderton

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 23:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Gil Chapman

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 23:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

LeFleur's Bluff State Park

5x expanded by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 22:36, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Legislative Assembly of Jammu and Kashmir

Created by S h i va (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 21:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Black Betsy

Created by Secret (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Wilford Bacon Hoggatt

Oval head-and-shoulders portrait of Wilford B. Hoggatt wearing early 20-th century business suit with standup shirt collar

5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Lagrivea

  • ... that the fossil squirrel Lagrivea is characterized by deep basins in its teeth?

Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Bombings in Mogadishu

Skyline of Mogadishu

Created by Neelix (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Taurus-Littrow

Created by Tyrol5 (talk). Self nom at 18:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I'm concerned about using a primary source. The quote used to reference the deepness is: "We landed in a valley that had mountains higher than the Grand Canyon is deep." I think saying a valley is X deep is different than saying the mountains surrounding a valley are X high. -Atmoz (talk) 21:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
ALT1:... that the mountains surrounding the Taurus-Littrow valley, the landing site of Apollo 17 on the Moon, are higher than the Grand Canyon is deep? Tyrol5 21:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
ALT1. Quicker than a cat. :-) -Atmoz (talk) 21:42, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Christos Adamidis

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Appalachian cottontail

A brown rabbit in the grass

5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 17:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Nikephoritzes

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

John Bettesworth-Trevanion

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 16:47, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Somerset County Cricket Club in 1891

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: Does this mean that if this particular sports club survives for a thousand years, there might be over a thousand Misplaced Pages articles about it? I find this mildly concerning. Also, isn't a more interesting hook possible? Presumably lots of cricket clubs joined this championship in the 19th century, so there's nothing particular interesting about that - maybe a hook about their return being a reversal of their fortunes after being thrown out of first class competition previously? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Harrias 07:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

  • As for the "sports team X, in year Y" article naming... well, I give up. Such things generate endless press coverage and I've seen far more obscure sports clubs now getting similarly named WP articles, so I suppose the existence of local rags prepared to cover such things, will forever make it possible to have yearly articles about them - much like the local rock bands etc. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Réseau Breton 4-6-0 tank locomotives

E332, ex Réseau Breton, now preserved on the Chemin de Fer de la Baie de Somme

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 16:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)



Zennor Quoit

  • ... that in 1861, a local Cornish farmer proposed to destroy the ancient Zennor Quoit site but was prevented by the vicar who payed him a financial incentive to build his cowshed elsewhere?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Martin Dannenberg

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Kampung Boy (TV series)

  • ... that American voice actors "kept slipping into a Jamaican accent" when voicing Malaysian characters in Kampung Boy?

Created by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that academics consider Kampung Boy the animated television series a cultural artefact, bearing witness to Malaysian society's rural-urban transition?

Current article size is 14 kB (2321 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The Kampung Boy

  • ... that "naughty ones with ... bushy hair" fill the pages of The Kampung Boy?

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that to a Kampung Boy, having the foreskin of his penis sliced off is "just like an ant bite"?
  • ALT2: ... that Malaysian graphic novel The Kampung Boy was not first published in the country's official language and was later translated back to it?
  • ALT3: ... that the language in the United States version of Malaysian graphic novel The Kampung Boy was left mostly untouched because the publisher judged its customers capable of understanding foreign words?

I expanded the article from 3082 B (507 words) to 19 kB (3229 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Lat

A bespectacled man with a round face speaks behind a podium.

5x expanded by Jappalang (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1: ... that Lat (pictured) was made a datuk (a Malaysian knight) and a Professor of Anthropology and Sociology for drawing funny pictures of his fellow country men?
  • ALT2: ... that Paul McCartney's music inspires Lat (pictured) to draw fashionable girls?
  • ALT3: ... that Lat (pictured) found the inspiration to draw cartoons about circumcision while on assignment as a reporter to investigate dead bodies in a morgue?

Added two ALTs. Note that expansion is from 3532 B (598 words) to 35 kB (5872 words). Jappalang (talk) 14:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Added another ALT. Jappalang (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Incredible work. You are amazingly resourceful. This article is well on its way to becoming a feature. You should go for it. If you want any help copyediting just ask.21:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC) Dr. Blofeld

Thank you. I am indeed aiming for featured status, eventually; it is undergoing a peer review now. Jappalang (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

National Commission on Police Reform

Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Arvid G. Hansen, Arbeideren, Arbeidet

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Arbeideren (Hamar)

  • ... that competitors of the Hamar newspaper Demokraten (later Arbeideren) refused to mention it by name in their columns?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Ellen Hillingsø

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Angelli Spumante & Aperitive

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 10:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: I think this is problematic for two reasons, that this claim relies on a statement on the company's own web site, hardly third-party RS and more SELFPUB, and that it smacks of embellishment that is so common among company self-descriptions uninterested in neutral language. Yes it may well be "modern", but one of the most by whose standards? MURGH 15:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Jewish lawyer

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 03:52, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Oy vey... Object! The article is bad enough, but having this sentence on the front page is not this Jewish lawyer's idea of fun. -- Y not? 05:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC
Do you mean that I have crafted the article in a bad way or that the subject matter is itself bad? Christopher Connor (talk) 05:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The article is dubious, but the proposed hook just promotes the stereotype. I've proposed a more acceptable hook below. Jayjg 05:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
  • No I didn't know that - because it's simply not true. At least not in Britain, as far as I'm aware. Just because the US has huge hangups about the race thing, there's no need to assume that the rest of the world labours under the same burden. Either make it clear that this is a US-specific stereotype, or perhaps better, do something with the German laws that targetted them. I didn't know about those, so that was more interesting for me in any case. You're always on safer ground talking about past prejudices than current ones - and on blaming bad stuff on the Nazis... Le Deluge (talk) 14:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, but I am still not on board with this article being on DYK. While I understand that, much as I'd like to, I probably won't see it deleted, that doesn't mean that we need to use it as what is in essence an advertisement for our contents. It's just unsavory. Maybe I'm biased. But I object. -- Y not? 20:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Robert S. Ingersoll

  • ... that Borg-Warner CEO Robert S. Ingersoll supported "better housing, economic opportunities and voting rights for the colored race" , noting that the firm's "labor force will be increasingly Negro"?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Plebiscite Front

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 01:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Visa policy of South Korea

5x expanded by Crossmr (talk). Self nom at 01:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 28

Jackson Gillis

  • ... that Jackson Gillis, a screenwriter who spent decades working on such shows as Lassie and Columbo, watched little on television other than football, as "he thought most of what was on TV was junk"?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Economy of Beijing

Created by Causeplot767 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 23:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Grigory Pomerants

Created by Nkrita (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 22:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

SS Doric (1883)

Created by Fallschirmjäger (talk). Nominated by GeeJo (talk) at 22:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Einar Li

  • ... that when Einar Li objected to military service in 1908, he was exempt of a prison sentence, which he had received in 1906 and 1907?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Michael Puntervold

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Erminia Frezzolini

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Restoring Honor rally, Black-Robed Regiment, The Blaze (website)

Created by Hodgson-Burnett's Secret Garden (talk), Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 15:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Japanese aircraft carrier Hōshō

Aerial view of an aircraft carrier with three small funnels, an island, and both of her aircraft elevators are down.

  • ... that the Hōshō served as a repatriation transport after the end of World War II, returning some 40,000 soldiers and civilians to Japan?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Darryl Stonum

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Carpenter (American football)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

John Cullen

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 00:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Ole Gausdal

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Labour Elector

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Yorkshire Factory Times

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Fred Bachrach

Created by Jackyd101. Nominated by Jackyd101 at 13:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

King of the Ring (2008)

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 07:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Star Wars Uncut

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 23:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

All Saints' Church, Harewood

A long stone church seen from the southeast with a low tower at the far end

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Haus des Meeres, Tourist attractions in Vienna

John Robert Monsell

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 16:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Zangmu Dam

Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 16:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Honor C. Appleton

  • ... that Honor C. Appleton illustrated more than 100 children's books between 1902 and 1950?

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 15:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Need to provide a footnote in the article to back up the claim in the hook. Apart from that the length and style is good. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 19:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 Done Susanne2009NYC (talk) 19:28, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, reference accepted in good faith - ready to go. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Bank Hall, Bretherton

A view from the gardens of Bank Hall, a jacobean style red brick mansion house in Lancashire during the spring of 2008.

Created by User:Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 16:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Comprehensive and interesting article, but not new or significantly expanded so far as I can see. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

H. Willebeek Le Mair

  • ... that Dutch illustrator H. Willebeek Le Mair published her first book Premières Rondes Enfantines in Paris in 1904 at the age of fifteen?

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 14:23, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Lectionary 283 and Biblioteca Communale

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 14:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Lectionary 283 is housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena since 1786? Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Still not exactly fascinating... how about;
ALT2 ... that the first five columns of Lectionary 283, a Greek manuscript of New Testament gospel lessons housed at the Biblioteca Communale in Siena, are written in gold? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Eugène Olaussen

  • ... that Eugène Olaussen, a one-time personal acquaintance of Lenin, shifted view and wrote in Nazi publications during WWII?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Prince Nikolaus of Thurn and Taxis (1885–1919)

Created by Caponer (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Old Holy Trinity Church, Wentworth

A stone church seen from a slight angle, with a flet-topped tower at the left, then the ruined south wall of the nave, and on the right part of the chancel

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Vistula delta Mennonites

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 12:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Millicent Sowerby

  • ... that Millicent Sowerby illustrated 30 sets in the Postcards for the Little Ones series, and was one of the first to illustrate Alice in Wonderland when it went out of copyright in 1907?

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 11:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Axel Drolsum

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Amir Nachumi

Israeli Air Force F-4 Phantom

Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 10:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • When? Which war?
"He scored 7 aerial kills " is rather brutal isn't it? "Scored" looks horrid, almost like it is a computer game rather than human lives. Dr. Blofeld 21:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Seconded, this type of language is not suitable for an encyclopedia. --Soman (talk) 04:33, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
This is commonly used language when discussing such matters, even on Misplaced Pages. Flying ace - "He scored the most kills in World War I"; VFA-2 - "scored aerial kills"; Richard Minifie - "went on to score seventeen aerial victories"; Fred J. Christensen - "scored 21.5 aerial victories". The list goes on and on, there's nothing unencyclopedic about it.
OK, how about : ALT2: ... that Amir Nachumi was credited with 7 aerial victories while flying the F-4 Phantom II (pictured) during the Yom Kippur War and 7 victories flying the F-16 Fighting Falcon during fighting over Lebanon in the early 1980s? Poliocretes (talk) 07:39, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
My preference would be that we are happy to say on the front page, exactly what we say in the article. Poliocrates is right, "kills" is standard usage - for nearly 100 years - and entirely encyclopedic. It is perhaps worth pointing out that the "kill" is of an aircraft, not of its pilot. To use "victories" instead, is almost a case of providing a euphemism. On the other hand "credited with" is reasonable, if people really have a problem with "scored". Fighter pilots celebrate victories just like other professionals do, it's not unreasonable. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Lourdes Robles

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 08:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 08:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Deriner Dam

5x expanded/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 07:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Latin Grammy Award for Best New Artist

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC). Nominated by Jaespinoza (talk) 05:55, 28 August 2010 (UTC) at 05:53, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

The Gulf Stream (painting)

Man and sharks

5x expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 04:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


1941 Stanford Indians football team

Created by Strikehold (talk). Nominated by Strikehold (talk) at 04:20, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Margaret Tarrant

Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 03:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


Bangladesh Khelafat Majlish

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 02:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I'll go with this one (I've taken the liberty of removing the words "electoral" and "current", and added "had", since this pact expired well before the 2008 election that brought her to power. Shiva (Visnu) 18:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on August 27

Dresden–Görlitz railway

Created by Grahamec (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 16:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Johannis Browall

  • ... that Linnaeus once named a plant after fellow Swedish botanist Johannis Browall, but later changed the name after discovering Browall courted his fiancée Sara Lisa while Linnaeus was working abroad?

Created by Granitethighs (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 23:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Walter Pilliet

formal photo of a standing man wearing a jacket

  • Comment: Prose size (text only): 270 B prior to expansion, which was started on 27 August. Prose size now (text only): 6393 B

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk), Karamiahongjoo (talk). Self nom at 09:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


De zaak Natalee Holloway

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Karwales

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Valonia ventricosa

Green bubble algae

Created by User:Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by User:Theornamentalist (talk) at 02:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • You're right, it should be singular, it sounds strange to me, although not stated in the reference singularly as in "sailors' eyeball" regarding a single specimen, can we assume that it would be properly used as that... as in..
ALT2 ... that a "sailors' eyeball" (pictured) is one of the largest single-celled organisms?
Let me know what you think - Theornamentalist (talk) 12:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
An indefinite article sounds odd to me here. Need an opinion from a grammar expert. Materialscientist (talk) 22:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Could try reversing it: "... that one of the largest single-celled organisms is a "sailors' eyeball" (pictured)? GeeJo(c) • 23:17, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Either are fine with me :) - Theornamentalist (talk) 04:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Double-headed serpent

Head and half the body of a model of a snake

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk) 15:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Yukon Wolf

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 20:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Ovachlamys fulgens

lateral left side view of the snail

Created by Snek01 (talk). Nominated by Snek01 (talk) at 11:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Horňácko

Windmill in Kuželov

  • ... that the folk festival (pictured) held in Horňácko is focused solely on the authentic folklore of the region?

Created by Vejvančický (talk), Hrdinský (talk). Nominated by Vejvančický (talk) at 09:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Ceratobasidium cornigerum

5x expanded by RunningClam (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 05:14, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

E. Normus Johnson, Big Johnson

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Wayne Ambler

Manager Connie Mack in the dugout Professional baseball player Wayne Ambler

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • date, length, primary hook all check. However, if a picture is used, it should be the picture of Ambler, who is the subject of the article, not Connie Mack. Rlendog (talk) 02:15, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't think that's a specific rule. The Mack image is used in the Ambler article, so there shouldn't be an issue. I used it over the Ambler image in the first hook since it is a featured image. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 04:56, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
  • It may not be a specific rule, but the new article is about Ambler, and the hook is basically about Ambler (after all, Mack's activity here is probably not unique to Ambler) so the Ambler picture seems more relevant. I am not sure why Mack being a Featured Picture should override that. Rlendog (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Why use the picture of Mack when he is not mentioned in the hook?--Ishtar456 (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Maybe I should have noted this, but that's why I used two images. When it say's "pictured" by Mack's name, the image of Mack should be included. When it says "pictured" next to Ambler's name, his image should be used. Again, the only reason I used the image of Mack in the first hook was because it is a featured picture. For the other hooks, the Ambler image should be used. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 19:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

But why use his picture at all? He is not mentioned in the hook.--Ishtar456 (talk) 20:28, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Yes he is. In the first hook it states, "Philadelphia Athletics manager Connie Mack (pictured)". In the rest of the hooks, the Ambler image should be used. That's why I put both of them in. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 20:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

sorry, my bad.--Ishtar456 (talk) 00:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Atari 2600 homebrew

Atari 2600 homebrew game Duck Attack!

  • ... that over 100 Atari 2600 homebrew games have been created since that console was withdrawn from the market in 1992?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hook is not cited in article. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 23:49, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

The reference in the third paragraph of the article (where the hook appears) links to a page which lists 100+ entries... unless I'm misunderstanding? 28bytes (talk) 00:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I see - I was looking at the "History" section. I checked the source, but there does not appear to be anything there which verifies that the 100 games were released after the 2600 was withdrawn. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
The same source defines homebrew games as those being released in 1995 or later: (which is cited a little further down in the article.) Should that cite be moved further up? Or am I better off rephrasing the hook? 28bytes (talk) 00:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

No worries; all checked now. I added the citation to the sentence I had first noticed as well, since what that sentence says is more along the lines of the hook. Seems good to go! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! 28bytes (talk) 06:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Someone read the hook ... grammar or something is wrong Victuallers (talk) 11:36, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Please can you point out a cited reference confirming that the console in question was withdrawn from the market in 1992.
As regards the hook, I think it makes sense, but would be more easily understood if slightly reworded - for example, using "that console" instead of "the 2600", or something like that. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
No problem; I've changed the hook as suggested and added a 1992 ref to the "History" section. 28bytes (talk) 01:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks looks good. Also, since it's important to mention ducks for an optimal hook, and the image needs to be mentioned;
ALT1 ... that over one hundred Atari 2600 homebrew games have been created since that console was withdrawn from the market in 1992, including Duck Attack! (pictured)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demiurge1000 (talkcontribs) 14:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
That's good, I like ALT1! 28bytes (talk) 14:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Philip Michael Faraday

  • ... that valuation expert Philip Michael Faraday composed comic operas before producing shows in the West End of London and managed to recover from a1914 bankruptcy?

Created by Tim riley (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 21:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Padusoy

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Milk Pail Restaurant

The tan, gablefront Milk Pail Restaurant

Created by Teemu08 (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Who's That Girl (soundtrack)

5x expanded by Legolas2186 (talk) and Tbhotch (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach

Created by Ruby2010 (talk). Self nom at 18:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Nazi government's withholding of Princess Sophie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach's passport was considered by the Dutch government to be "an insult to the Queen"? Ruby2010 (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Lead

A small chapel-like church seen from the south, with a bellcote at the left, a door and a single window

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

It looks good to go! But what exactly is a rambler? Ramblers? ~Itzjustdrama 14:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Manila Police District

Black and white portrait of a bearded man in military uniform.

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the Manila Police District, with the motto "Manila's Finest," was harshly criticized with their handling of the Manila hostage crisis? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 19:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

St Peter's Church, Wintringham

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Michel Montignac

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Bartlett Dam

A concrete structure with arches and buttresses straddles a river, creating a lake.

5x expanded/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 12:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Miguel (singer)

Created by Explicit (talk). Nominated by Explicit (talk) at 08:38, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Crystal structure of boron-rich metal borides

ScB17C0.25 crystal structure. Boron icosahedra form rings (left) centered by a "tube" (right)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 06:33, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Jirrawun Arts

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Lee and Kennedy

Created by Wetman (talk). Self nom at 03:24, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

exercise and music

  • ... that research on the interplay between exercise and music has found that faster-tempo music motivates people to work harder when performing at a moderate pace but that peak performance is unaffected?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 26

Vuno

Bird's view of Vuno

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Sulmues (talk), Alexikoua (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:02, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Beaver Canyon Scenic Byway

  • ... that Utah's Beaver Canyon Scenic Byway is the 5th highest paved road in the state, at 9,200 feet (2,800 m), but that its unpaved portion rises even higher, at over 10,200 feet (3,100 m) in elevation?

Created by DeFaultRyan (talk). Nominated by DeFaultRyan (talk) at 23:37, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Luitingh-Sijthoff, Albertus Willem Sijthoff

A.W. Sijthoff

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 08:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


New England Cottontail

A running rabbit

5x expanded by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 01:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Milford Oyster Festival

  • ALT1:... that the Milford Oyster Festival, billed the largest one-day festival in New England and listed among the top 10 annual events in Connecticut, draws over 50,000 attendees each year?
  • Comment: fact in main hook not directly in text of source, but in the video that is embedded there.

Created by Codehydro (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

King of the Ring (1997)

5x expanded by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 15:54, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Somawathiya National Park, Flood Plains National Park, Maduru Oya National Park

Savanna grasslands of Maduru Oya National Park

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Rogelio Álvarez

Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 00:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Nathan Redmond

Created by Will bcfc (talk). Nominated by Struway2 (talk) at 13:04, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Jenkins' whipray

A brown, diamond-shaped ray in very shallow water, over a sandy bottom

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't quite understand what the issue to be addressed is? -- Yzx (talk) 21:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Darrell Harper

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 03:32, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Tlayacapan

Chinelos dancers

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Musselbed Shoals Light

The Musselbed Shoals Light before expansion in 1925

Created by Mangoe (talk). Nominated by Mangoe (talk) at 23:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Operation Lucid

  • ... that Operation Lucid was a British plan to use fire ships to attack invasion barges that were gathering in ports on the northern coast of France in preparation for a German invasion of Britain in 1940?

Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 22:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Ye Xiaowen

Created by Quigley (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Kai G. Henriksen

5x expanded by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 21:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Newnes

Created by BigDom (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

St James' Church, Stretham

Parish church with steeple

Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks good except for one point: the hook cite is for the fact that JB Joyce & Co is the oldest firm of tower clockmakers in the world, but does not tell us that the Turret clock is made by that firm. How do we know who made that clock? hamiltonstone (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The clockmaker is sourced in reference and (from this page version) at the end of the relevant hooked sentence. I realise may not be WP:RS but I only put it in to help DYK volunteers as the build plans folder is not digitally available --Senra (Talk) 09:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I moved what was reference to the end of the clause forming the hook. I hope this helps clarify --Senra (Talk) 12:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Senra, all good. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

2010 New York City cab stabbing

Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 20:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

If you feel as such, then you should put it up for AfD and that would stall this nomination until the AfD's completion. Otherwise, your opinion of its notability doesn't matter in terms of the nomination. Silverseren 20:29, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Apart from that, the hook is rather bland; the fact that a mayor doesn't quite like it when someone is attacked in his city is not especially surprising. Ucucha 20:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
As long as the nominator agrees, how about...

currently at AfD. -Atmoz (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Holy Trinity Church, Wensley

A long stone church in a graveyard, see from the northeast, with a north vestry, and a tower at the far end

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 19:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Palasë

A A bird's view of Palasë

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Sulmues (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Good suggestion and  Done.

L'Hermitage Slave Village Archeological Site

L'Hermitage slave village archaeological excavations in an open field beyond two farm buildings

5x expanded by Acroterion (talk| Self nom at 16:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

David Rowland

  • ... that the 40/4 stacking chair created by David Rowland, which won the grand prize at the 1965 Milan Triennale, got its name from the fact that 40 chairs could be nested in a stack 4 feet (120 cm) high?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Tabley House

A symmetrical Palladian house in three storeys, constructed in stone and brick, with a central portico containing four large columns

  • ... that the manor of Nether Tabley in Cheshire, including Tabley Old Hall and Tabley House (pictured), was owned by the Leicester family for almost exactly 700 years?

5x expanded by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Expansion and hook ref look OK. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


St. James Episcopal Church (Grosse Ile, Michigan), Lisette Denison Forth

Side elevation of St. James Episcopal Church, showing red entrance doors dedicated to Lisette Denison Forth

Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 11:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The fuller story is that Lisette Denison Forth was born a slave, and a) ran away to Canada, established residency, and returned to Michigan a free woman, b) worked for much (but not all) of the rest of her life as a maid for a succession of important people, c) became good friends with her employers, d) invested her money wisely, and was one of the few African-Americans to own stock and property, e) left the bulk of her estate to establish an Episcopal church; and f) said church was built after her death in upper-class white Grosse Ile. I find each of those points interesting, and the package fascinating, and tried to jam as much as I could into the hook, but alternate versions are welcome. Sorry for the rambling, but these two articles turned out to be more interesting than I thought they would be going in. IMO, obviously. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Also note the alt text of the image. Andrew Jameson (talk) 11:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Goodnestone Park

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Abrázame Muy Fuerte (song)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 07:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 07:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 25

French ironclad Victorieuse

A white-painted warship with three masts and a funnel amidships. Open gunports are visible on the ship's side.

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 23:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ?? - I counted 202 characters in the hook. They are supposed to be under 200 characters. Could someone else check I counted by hand and my character counting too doesn't work on my current PC. Dincher (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Brazilian monitor Rio Grande

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Pará class monitor

  • ... that the gun turret of the Brazilian Pará-class monitor was manually rotated by four men via a system of gears and required 2.25 minutes for a full 360° rotation?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian monitor Alagoas

  • ... that during the Brazilian Fleet Revolt of 1893–94 the rebel river monitor Alagoas had to be towed into position to fire on the government forts in Rio de Janeiro because her engines had been removed?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Brazilian monitor Santa Catharina

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Bắc Giang, Bắc Kạn, Cao Bang, Ha Giang, Lang Son, Lao Cai, Phu Tho, Quang Ninh, Thai Nguyen, Tuyen Quang and Yen Bai

Đông Bắc (North East Vietnam)

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), YellowMonkey (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 18:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

11 article hook nom. Articles are gradually being improved. Reference will be added to support that the provinces all belong to this region. Dr. Blofeld 18:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Date, length verified (some articles moved from userspace). Great, but unfinished job. Please copyedit all 11 (I only quickfixed typos without really reading the articles), wikilink, expand some leads, etc. Lao Cai Province still contains untranslated text; some data are missing in Tuyên Quang Province. Materialscientist (talk) 04:22, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

MV Mariam

  • Comment: Currently awaiting closure at AfD.

5x expanded by ME202012 (talk), Mjroots (talk), Drmies (talk), Djembayz (talk and Haus (talk). Nominated by Haus (talk) at 12:25, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Ryan Boyle

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 02:44, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Carnegie (ship), Carnegie Ridge

Map of aseismic ridges and plate boundaries off northwestern South America showing proposed subducted part of Carnegie Ridge

  • Comment: Carnegie Ridge started from a redirect

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


Albany City Hall

Engraving of a three-story structure with a stoop and a cupola

5x expanded by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • How about:
... that one of Albany, New York's former city halls (pictured) was the location of the 1754 Albany Congress, where Benjamin Franklin proposed the Albany Plan of Union? upstateNYer 02:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Krka Bridge

Krka Bridge

Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 21:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Macedonia under the Ottoman Empire

Created by Local hero (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: The title, "Ottoman-era Republic of Macedonia", sounds a bit strange to a casual reader. The first impression on seeing it is, "What, was there a Republic of Macedonia in the days of the Ottoman Empire - perhaps something like the Paris Commune or the "Zheltuga Republic"? IMHO, something like "Macedonia under the Ottoman rule" would sound a lot better, unless you want to strictly (and anachronistically) focus the article on the events that took place within the borders of today's (FY)ROM, rather than with the 3 vilayets (Skopje, Bitola , and Salonica) that were commonly considered as "Macedonia" back then. -- Vmenkov (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Arad–Szeged pipeline

Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Norman Walsh

5x expanded by Greenshed (talk), ColonelHyde (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Pierre-Augustin Hulin

Created by DCI2026 (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

ALT3:... that, after the storming of the Bastille, revolutionary and future French general Pierre-Augustin Hulin unsuccessfully tried to save the life of the prison's governor —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCI2026 (talkcontribs) 12:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Coprinellus impatiens

  • ... that young specimens of the mushroom Coprinellus impatiens have a powdery stem that eventually sloughs off to leave a smooth surface?

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Little Syria, Manhattan

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:16, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Very strongly oppose ALT1 and ALT2, or indeed anything that doesn't mention New York. There are dozens if not thousands of controversial proposed mosque complexes worldwide—any proposal to build something that will attract large crowds of people always causes controversy—and there's no earthly reason why any reader outside New York should be expected to guess what you're referring to. (I imagine that most European readers would presume that "controversial proposed mosque complex" refers to Abbey Mills Mosque or the Cologne Mosque project.) – iridescent 16:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Hygrophorus eburneus

White mushroom on a stick connected by slime to a finger

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 18:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Lactarius sanguifluus

Two mushrooms on the ground placed side by side

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Dale Warren

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

air bag vest

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest

Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest

  • Comment: The source of the hook fact is in German, but it's quite clear how he did it from images on page 24 of the source

Created by Worm That Turned (talk). Self nom at 13:05, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

It's working fine for me, and I'm at work, with a fairly restrictive connection. It's an online scanned in version of the journal. -- WORMMЯOW  07:37, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

If there is a problem... how about

Sarcoscypha dudleyi, William Russell Dudley

A ref fungus growing on a stick

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 05:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Five Punishments

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • There are actually 16 inline citations which I would have thought was enough for an article of this size. As for the list format, this is a Chinese legal code and the original is laid out that way - I don't know how else the information can be presented without it looking a mess.
Philg88  28 December 2024

Cortinarius anomalus, Cortinarius cinnamomeus, Cortinarius delibutus, Cortinarius hemitrichus, Cortinarius infractus, Cortinarius praestans, Cortinarius purpurascens, Cortinarius traganus, Cortinarius varius

A yellow-capped mushroom with a bulbous stem growing in the ground.

  • Comment: The hook may be easily verified in one swoop by opening the PDF document "Recommended English Names for Fungi in the UK" (cited in all) and confirming that the common names used here are valid.

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)


Edward Kean

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Bear in mind that Howdy Doody means absolutely nothing to a majority of en.wiki users. The cowabunga thing does have a global resonance, although it's a bit more complicated than the NYT reference makes out. Thunderthud actually said "kawabonga", and it was modified by surfers in the 1950s/60s to "cowabunga". However the lineage is clear, and in the NYT reference Kean claims credit directly for "cowabunga" so for the purposes of a 200-character hook, I think we can say he was the inventor of cowabunga. I can't quite believe that I've just spent time sorting out the etymology of cowabunga on Wikitionary, but such is life - its old en.wiki page used to get 3000+ hits a month, so it's worth nailing down. How about the following, or variants thereof :
  • ALT1... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" for a TV show about a US Presidential candidate?
  • ALT2... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" and tried to put a puppet President in the White House? Le Deluge (talk) 09:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT3... that Edward Kean coined the word "cowabunga" during the mock presidential campaign of puppet, Howdy Doody? I disagree that Howdy Doody should be taken out of the hook, as he has a lot of meaning to the people who do recognize him and is a major reason for continuing to read the article.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:45, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 24

Southland Corp. v. Keating

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 15:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • ALT1 ... that Southland Corp. v. Keating was described as "perhaps the most controversial case in the Supreme Court's history of arbitration jurisprudence?"
Hmmm ... good point, but I generally tend to dislike quote-based hooks unless the quote is from a surprising source or it's incredibly over-the-top and from a notable source. Let's try this, then:
ALT2... that legal scholars have argued that the legislative history of the Federal Arbitration Act contradicts the U.S. Supreme Court's preemption holding in Southland Corp. v. Keating? Daniel Case (talk) 16:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Kloster Berge school

  • ... that a round tower was built to house the Kloster Berge school after a schoolmaster hanged himself in the cloister previously used for classes?

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Lynching of Laura and Lawrence Nelson

photograph

Created by SlimVirgin (talk). Nominated by SlimVirgin (talk) at 20:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

  • I am a newbie in this topic, thus forgive my naive questions/comment: (i) Laura Nelson pictured strikes me odd next to this photo. (ii) The article says "4,743 people lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968" thus why those two individuals were selected to its name and focus? Shouldn't the article cover a wider scope? (don't know if such article already exists on WP, e.g. Lynching in the United States)? In other words, I have doubts this event is notable for an individual article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
  • I've considerably expanded the article further since SV nominated it. It certainly is notable - apart from being the subject of considerable coverage in multiple sources and a significant controversy at the time, it also prompted a number of protest songs from the singer Woody Guthrie, whose father Charley participated in the lynching. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
  • In case the concern is over the hook, I've suggested an alternative hook which highlights a unique aspect of the case that ties in with a widely known figure in American culture. From my own experience, I've found that DYKs with hooks that present an unexpected fact tend to be quite effective. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Mickell Gladness

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on August 23

Toilet water

  • ... that Napoleon set in place in the early nineteenth century the observance that men's toilet water had to be only a citrus or "woody" scent, which wasn't changed until the 1960s?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Note to approving editor: I have NOT withdrawn the submission, but just withdrew the original hook and substituted ALT1 and ALT2 in its place.--Doug Coldwell 16:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • As of now, the article has under 1,100 characters of prose, short of the required 1,500. The prose in the bulleted comparison is not counted as prose. You can consider putting that text into paragraph form or adding additional material to meet the minimum. Alansohn (talk) 20:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Toilet water = eau de toilette = perfume. I'm not sure that toilet water is suitably distinct from perfume to merit it's own article. The sourcing is not particularly strong either. Smartse (talk) 16:39, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Concern of image = changed to image of patent for a bottle for holding toilet water. Changed again to a picture I took.--Doug Coldwell 10:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
In the extensive research I have done on this topic, I have found many sources that definitely destinguish between the 3 main alcohol based perfumes. This is described under the section "Types of alcohol based perfumes" in the article. While toilet water = eau de toilette, it is not pure perfume. Perfume has a mixture of about 10-20% perfume oils, where Toilet water only has 2 to 6 percent of some type of perfume oil - definitely weaker. Also it is usually applied ONLY directly to the skin, where perfume would go on clothing and sometimes skin. Toilet waters cost much less than perfume. There are distinct definitions for "toilet water" (i.e. 'eau de toilette' from online dictionary where perfume is perfume definition)). Of the three styles of these perfume types, perfume and eau de Cologne, had an article already and Toilet water (eau de toilette) didn't have until I recently wrote up an article on it. Traditionally eau de Cologne is citrus scent based and is a man's fragrance. Toilet water does NOT have these specifications as a tradition. Also others talk of the difference between the three as is used in Reference #8. I have an inline Reference on every line, however IF you need additional References I can get them. Presently there are 19 inline References and 7 book sources. IF an inline Reference or book source is not satisfactory, I can replace it. Which ones are not satisfactory? Does this answer your concerns IF Toilet water deserves an article?--Doug Coldwell 18:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
The American druggist and pharmaceutical record, Volume 63 makes a definite distinction between perfume and "toilet water" here and The Scientific American cyclopedia of formulas shows a difference between perfume and toilet water here.--Doug Coldwell 18:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Reference #5 in the lede gives reference as defined for scientists in a perfumery lab between "Colognes, Perfumes, Scents, & Toilet Waters" in Glenn Poch's Bottle Collecting Newsletter 15 in their section Distinguishing Colognes, Perfumes, Scents, & Toilet Waters. It follows very close to the other source References given. Toilet water and perfume are not the same thing as that article explains.--Doug Coldwell 19:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I am not entirely sure if the two terms are synonyms, but your two links are totally consistent with them being synonyms. What is more, Misplaced Pages, as an encyclopedia (not a dictionary) covers closely related topics together in a single article. If there is a serious demarcation problem between toilet water and perfume, treating both in a single article might well be the best approach. Hans Adler 19:56, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I notice that perfume and eau de Cologne are two different articles. Toilet water is the third in this group, that while has a pleasing smell, is definitely different - like eau de Cologne is from perfume. In Nigel Groom's book The new perfume handbook he describes "Toilet Water" on page 329. He talks of Hungary Water and Florida Water being examples of Toilet Water, just like I described in my article. There are many differences between perfume and Toilet Water and it warrents an article to explain this. Looking at "Category:Incense" there are some 49 pages - not all in one article, but 49 distinct articles describing each one, even though they are similiar. Agarwood is different than Sandalwood, although similiar have definite different characteristics. Both are fragrant woods, but both have different articles. Not all flowers are grouped into one article, since each flower is distinctly different even though they smell perfumery.--Doug Coldwell 20:32, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
It looks to me like there are over 200 articles related to flowers. Within that there are Azalea and Rhododendron - basically the same genus, however two different articles. In the Rhododendron article are listed over a dozen different types of Rhododendrons, all different articles - although basically the same flower types. There are definite differences and therefore different articles - just like there are differences in perfume, eau de cologne and toilet water, therefore toilet water is justified in having an article by itself. There are plenty of references to show this consisting of 26 book sources and 51 inline references.--Doug Coldwell 21:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
DougColdwell asked me to take a look. I've read the debate and I can see both sides have a valid argument. I'm keen to find a solution and not argue the history of perfumery or wikipedia. I suggest. 1. You decide that I have no axe to grind and decide whether you are or not going to be open-minded. Assuming you are are then I suggest that the DYK goes ahead and you debate now how the two subjects could be merged. Should they all point at one article. Should there by one minor that points at the other or a redirect. Its a view. Victuallers (talk) 18:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Doug asked me to take a look as well. I think this would be great for April Fool's Day but if you don't want to wait, ALT1 is good.--NortyNort (Holla) 22:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Would rather not have as an April Fool's Day DYK - however do see the humor in it (funny!).--Doug Coldwell 22:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Here is another version on ALT1
ALT1 (second version) ... that King of France Louis XIV (1638-1715) used toilet water for his shirts and called it "heavenly water"? --Doug Coldwell 22:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For September 5, 14th Sunday after Trinity

Gerlinde Sämann

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

For September 13, 15:00 GMT (14:00 UTC), see comment text

Polytechnic of Namibia

A red-roofed yellow building in bright sunlight, built in German colonial style. Over the entrance is a red cross and the inscription "Elisabeth Haus"

5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Comment: Okay, here I will request quite an amount of good faith into me: The creator, almost all contributors, and I are affiliated to this institution, either as employees or as students. However, nobody else seems to want to write about it, so here I submit despite a crystal-clear COI. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
  • And a Question: On September 13, 15:00 GMT I will present a lecture on Misplaced Pages at the Auditorium Maximum of Polytechnic of Namibia. It would of course be a nice publicity stunt to have the institution mentioned on the main page at that particular day and time. Does Misplaced Pages support something like this? I would believe it is a win-win situation. --Pgallert (talk) 08:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
  • 5x expansion, date, length and hook verified. I fixed some grammar in the hook and bolded the article name. I see nothing wrong with you being an employee of the Polytechnic, the article is certainly not biased in any way. TodorBozhinov 09:04, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
(tongue in cheek) - do tell your students that each of them has to write a DYK on their hometown and the Namibian institution has to be an FA in four languages in return for this ginormous favour. Oh and good luck with the lecture. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:) Thanks, will do. Actually the will write something, see here, and I promised a 100% assignment mark should their contribution make it to DYK. Namibia an FA, that would be something... I'm willing to accept any help. --Pgallert (talk) 15:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree it is win-win and we should help (any others?). I have updated all school articles (not too many) in Winhoek where your poly is Victuallers (talk) 16:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

Ann Hibbins

This illustration depicts the execution of Ann Hibbins on Boston Commons in 1656. Sketch by F.T. Merril, 1868

Created by --Ishtar456 (talk) 10:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)). Self nom at 10:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


October the 31st (The Fall Guy episode)

Cassandra Peterson appears before a poster of herself as "Elvira"

Created by --Ishtar456 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC))

The Brass Rail (Hoboken, New Jersey)

  • Comment: Rhyming in the beginning unintentional... Now it is intentional hah... and I am going to grab a drink there one of these days and snap a picture of those stairs for the article.

Created by Theornamentalist (talk). Nominated by Theornamentalist (talk) at 14:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Ipswich Witchcraft Trial

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  • "May have been the last witch trial", rather. We don't know what will happen in the future -- people do make ridiculous assertions still, and occasionally judges humor them (witness the case of the woman who got a restraining order against David Letterman so that he would stop psychically harassing her). DS (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
  • That's true of 99 percent of DYK noms which use the term "largest," "most expensive," "tallest," "record," etc. On the other hand, we can't predict the future, so "may have been" is not accurate, either. It's why I chose "has been called"; that is an accurate statement, although it may not hold true in the future. - Tim1965 (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Euphorbia tithymaloides

The brightly colored red bracts and flowers of Euphorbia tithymaloides, a succulent spurge

  • ... that a person can create more of the Devil's Backbone by cutting it off above a joint and putting it in sandy soil?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 03:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


Veratrum nigrum

The purple-black flowers of the Veratrum nigrum plant growing from a spike raceme or branch

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  • The point is to create a play on words with the title of the plant. It is not a true Hellbore; it is true it can kill you. When it comes to plants, most people probably don't know what the term "false" means (I didn't). So verifying that "false means false" is not just a play on words, it is informative as well (confirming a person's assumptions). - Tim1965 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Nah, I'm with Smartse, this hook is just not working for me. And I don't really see the Halloween connection either, unless anything that could kill you is now eligible for Halloween. I don't think we're going to be short. I suggest this goes back to "regular" DYK, and you come up with another hook? Sorry. PS Tim - "Hellebore" is an English word, not a Latin word like Helleborus, so "hellebore" should not be italicised, in DYK or in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Grammar point: there should either be a "while" after the first "that", or there should be a "but" before "it is true", or the comma before "it is true" should be a semi-colon. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Ferocactus latispinus

very spiny cactus

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

It sounds scarier to me. We could maybe make something out of this but saying that it can be killed by Fusarium oxysporum doesn't sound very scary. Another option is to make a stub for Didymium wildpretii using this and then we could have a hook of ALT2 ... that Didymium wildpretii eats the decaying remains of Devil's tongue barrel (pictured)? Smartse (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Not the easiest material to work with. For hook purposes (eg ALT2) it is probably best called a "barrel of devil's tongues"? A bit of creative Googling came up with PAR 279 of this ref which would allow an example of a site in which it grows in the wild and hence (stretching a bit) :
That same ref has a bunch of saints which could be translated into English, and MZ 1239 leaves the tilde off La Cañada... Alternatively you could use the hardiness data to suggest that :
The Fusarium is tricky, you'd end up playing with "mouldy bottoms" or "butt rot". One little thing, the image relies on recurvus being a synonym for latispinus. I don't doubt that it is, but it probably ought to be reffed - and in any case, it's a bit too obvious an image to accompany a hook that we're struggling to get tricksy with... Le Deluge (talk) 14:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The book ref lists recurvus as a synonym. The other hooks are more interesting than mine, and yeah I reckon losing the picture will probably help. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Auricularia auricula-judae

A brown, ear-shaped fugus growing from a tree-branch.

5x expanded by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 18:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I ate one of these with garlic and butter.... not recommended. But I like the second hook and both are OK Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
  • Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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