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2010 data

Why do people use 2010 data for GDP instead of 2009? We are not even half way through 2010, and every country's using 2009 data, stop this childish and ridiculous behaviour. This information is not about "look better'


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Edit request from 71.201.248.6, 22 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Castew discrimination in india is not anymore. it stopped decades back. please edit the "culture" section. in fact,, something new is in discussion of lately ie reverse discrimination because the upper castes (on paper) do not have rights and privileges the one with lower caste certificate has. India has 50 percent reservation in its education and government jobs. this has led to many people not having a lower caste certificate not getting proper educational and job opportunities despite being high in merit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/2006_Indian_anti-reservation_protests

http://en.wikipedia.org/Caste_system_in_India#Modern_status_of_the_caste_system

71.201.248.6 (talk) 02:42, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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Names in other Indian languages

I have added the names of India in other official languages of India listed in the 8th Schedule as collapsable list. I think it is necessary. It has not been rejected in the talk page. Previously the attempts which were made to include the official languages were not added as a collapsable list, so the article looked very awkward. But if I include them as a collapsabla list, only those want to see it can see it by clicking on the show option. So I think it is unnecessary to remove my edition. -Trinanjon Basu (talk) 16:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Nope, you've got to get consensus before you add this. And also, a civics lesson. None of these are official languages. The official language is Hindi, with English being a subsidiary official language. Adding another twenty simply doesn't make sense and is entirely undue. Do not add again unless there's consensus for adding them. —SpacemanSpiff 16:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
All the twenty-four languages are the official languages of India. Hindi and English are the official languages of the Union, means they are to be used for official purposes at the Central level. The languages listed in the 8th Schedule are the recognised official languages of India. These can be used as the official languages of any of the states and Union territories. -Trinanjon Basu (talk) 16:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
THat's the whole point, they are official languages of the States and Union Territories, where those language scripts are included. —SpacemanSpiff 16:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Agree with Spiff. 8th schedule is the official languages of the union. They are only for States and UTs. The same issue has been discussed before and rejected.--Sodabottle (talk) 17:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Agree with Spiff here. Its unnecessary to add the 20 odd languages in the article. Shovon (talk) 04:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I request all of you to have look at the articles South Africa and Singapore. -Trinanjon Basu (talk) 05:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
None of the two articles are Featured, whereas, India is. I could not find the *name* of the countries written in the scripts of the official languages anywhere. Shovon (talk) 08:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I also agree with Spiff there is no need to add this. and you cannot add something to a Featured Article before getting the consensus RahulChoudhary 10:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Why does it matter whether Singapore and South Africa are featured articles or not? If both these articles are selected as featured articles in near future will the names mentioned in different languages be removed. And Shovon has not found "*name* of the countries written in the scripts of the official languages anywhere." Then what has he found on the top of the Infobox written in different scripts. I think these are all false but clever argument with intention to outwit. I do not want to do anything by force but I think it is illojical not to include these languages. Please look at my Sandbox page and see how the Infobox looks after adding the languages. It makes no difference except the show option appearing at one corner. So please consider my opinion. -Trinanjon Basu (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
There's no "false and clever" arguments out here. Each article talk page defines what goes in and out of the article. In this article, long standing consensus is that only two scripts - Hindi and English, signifying the two official languages of the Republic of India belong. In the case of Singapore and South Africa, they have more official languages and have decided to add them all. And it's not just a case of whether it's directly visible or not, there's also the article size, and this one is already too huge for it to load on slow connections, and adding a twenty four course alphabet soup is a disservice to our readers, especially when most of them have no interest in it. Besides, the first line already includes a link to the list of names that any interested reader can click and get to. Simple as that. —SpacemanSpiff 14:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Famines in India

Zuggernaut has added the following line to the history section: India suffered a series of serious crop failures in the late 19th century, leading to widespread famines in which 15.3 million people died

I think this line is somewhat vague and should be reworded. my concerns: a)Famines during british rule weren't limited to late 19th century though they become more numerous. the last one lasted a couple of years into the 20th century b) the death count of 15.3 million is treated as an absolute, but it is a composite figure arrived at tallying the lower end of various estimates. c) "crop failures" alone didn't cause the famines. it was a bit more complex. monsoon failure - > drought -> crop failure -> free market grain policies -> inadequate relief measure -> great famine. (Timeline of major famines in India during British rule)

I know it is a bit too much to expect to capture the complexity of the issue in a single line, But still feel this line could be reworded.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't sure if I could add significant content to a FA without a consensus, hence the hesitance and the resulting vagueness. I'm always glad to draw on multiple sources, reword and expand. I will do so shortly. Here's a potential source that shows how famines increased under British rule and how British propaganda citing population density, "famines cannot be "caused", etc has been trashed: . Zuggernaut (talk) 05:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Careful about that source. He draws on William Digby, who isn't exactly a neutral scholar - he had lots of axes to grind. I wish Fowler & Fowler (the editor who wrote the majority of the famine articles) was around to help us with redrafting the section. I am fine with the "millions of deaths", but the lengthier explanation is now written from a Indian nationalist perspective (IMO). Lets see what other editors think.--Sodabottle (talk) 06:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello there folks,
Guess you are discussing about this "India suffered a series of serious crop failures in the late 19th century, leading to widespread famines in which millions of Indians perished." Well, India did see a lot of famines, even after independence, right until the green revolution. In my opinion, there is no hiding from that fact. Surely, no one can easily put a number to the death toll. But I do know that starvation deaths were a commonplace during those days... Some may debate over the exact reasons behind those deaths though... If you want me to comment as an Indian I would say that we can't change what happened before but accept it... our future is what we can mend! :)

Thanks a ton for putting so much time and energy on this article...

Amartya ray2001 (talk) 08:24, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

This edit lacks neutrality and is clearly POV pushing. BritishWatcher (talk) 10:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I did have that deja vu feeling (all over again)! See Archive_25#Indian_Famines. At that time, the rough consensus was not to include this material in the article because of WP:UNDUE. The causes of the famines, the reasons behind the number of deaths, etc. can not reasonably be discussed in a summary article and leaving the impression that the Raj was to blame for both the famines as well as the deaths is where the WP:UNDUE comes in. There are plenty of scholars who believe that at least some responsibility lies with the fact that India was colonized, but their arguments are nuanced (Amartya Sen, for example, blames it on lack of political participation, Gilmour on ineptitude, etc.). The point being that there were complex causes for the famines, complex reasons behind the number of people who died, and discussing all this in a summary article is just not possible. --RegentsPark (talk) 11:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

History section

I have added a POV tag to the disproportionately large paragraph that has been added to the history section about famines in India. It's not even close to being written with a neutral POV and might I also say even if it was, this amount of attention to this subject in what is a potted history of India is way too much detail. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 10:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Oops just saw the discussion above. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 10:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I have reverted to the pre-famine version. We can work out the exact text to be added here in the talk page. Famines were major events in 18 and 19th centuries and merit a couple of lines in the history section.--Sodabottle (talk) 10:53, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
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