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Unfortunately I identified myself as vandalism on the Great Moravia article. How can I delete this? Is it a problem? Im just learning editingFakirbakir (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, it's not a big deal. All you did was mark one edit as vandalism but you undid it, so it's fine. — HelloAnnyong 19:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

September 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Great Moravia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. — HelloAnnyong 19:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Careful

When there are problems with editing you need to be very careful not to revert too many times. As you are a new user you do not know all the rules and such and must be extra careful in editing, better to leave alone an article which is problematic when you are a new editor. Once you learn how to edit and learn how to do things you can be sure that you violate the rules or not. But now you cant be sure if it's really OK or not. The worst situation you can have is when more people revert one of your edits, when that happens, as a new user you need to stop reverting immediately. The place has many rules and you are already warned by an admin, that's not good. Right now that means you should try to post to the article talk pages only and even there cautiously. Hobartimus (talk) 21:09, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I have just finished with my wee contribution on the talk page of Great Moravia. I try to learn and adapt.Fakirbakir (talk) 21:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

That's very good that you are trying to discuss edits, for example here but it is better to do it in the talk page of an article. For example write on the talk page not a statement of your opinion "Kristó Gyula was one of the biggest..." altough this might be very true an admin who looks at the case wont know it, you should instead ask "WHY do you think Kristó or his book is unreliable?" It might be the case that the problem is not with Kristó but the fact that the book is not available online so others might look at it, who knows what the real reason behind the objection is it might even be nothing. In any case it's better to try to find out the reasoning behind a revert. Then you can try to address it for example sometimes in these cases you can give a little bit of the original text, like quote the original sentence from the book in the original language and then give your own translation/paraphrasing. Anyway posting to the talk pages of articles and asking questions is good thing to show that you are not trying to force the issue with pure reverting, admins really dont like that. Also if there is a big disagreement in one article, you can just let it cool off a bit, and move to another article where you are the only editor, there are so many articles (millions) so that not every article has even one editor, especially true for minor /lesser articles. I just say this as a good way to learn the ways of wikipedia, by editing smaller articles first rather than the large ones that many people are interested in. Hobartimus (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice! If I am honest I was very disappointed. First, I tried to communicate of course and I got a simple answer 'Study history and wiki-rules' and nothing else. If I was admin I think the other part would be willing to speak with me. After that while I was wandering I just realized the justice is less important for the Misplaced Pages. The rules are more important. (I was upset, I wrote a little bit huffily, you can see on the 'nobility' talk page) If they can get an admin post they can misuse from that position. In my case, The problems are rooted from the divergent aspects (Hungarian or 'chechoslovakian' point of view). In the Hungarian Nobility page, If they want to emphasize that slovakian origin, They must tell us it is just one point of view. Others have different opinion....and They have to write down that. If not, deletion is the perfect solution. Moreover that page is not an ethnic based page, they can write that stuff elsewhere. Great Moravia page is nearly the same problem. First, Gyula Kristo's work is not allowed to be unmarked who knows that topic. Secondly, That page has clashing options whether the Empire disappeared immediately, or it was a gradual process, however (what is good) it contains (opposite)theories at least. I have to be patient I know.Fakirbakir (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Nobility in the Kingdom of Hungary

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Nobility in the Kingdom of Hungary. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If the edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Yopie (talk) 08:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

That happened in the same time yesterday. I had a disagreement with Yopie and Waldthelmat. I released my opinion on the Nobility in the Kingdom of Hungary and Great Moravia talk pages. Fakirbakir (talk) 08:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Balaton

It is a poorly worded sentence. but it means that there was a community between al Slavic groups from Baltic and Russia to Balkans, but this was the interrupted by Germanization of Austria, Magyarization of Hungary/ eastern Pannonia and Romanization of what is now modern Romania. The latter, however, probably truly happened as late as high middle ages/ early modern period. Hxseek (talk) 22:57, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

I think now I understand. I thought those events were happened within the borders of Balaton Principality, but the sentence defines for a bigger territory. Thank you for your help.Fakirbakir (talk) 09:54, 27 September 2010 (UTC)