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1: November 2007–August 2009

To-do: E · H · W · RUpdated 2010-01-15

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Copyedit : Throughout entire article
Expand : 1997 Cyprus peace concert

Married?

OK, seeing as how prior to my edits there was a claim that he got married in a civil ceremony (or something) in August/08, I went along with it, but now I am actually starting to doubt this. I never actually heard him say "I got married" or wtv and he also said that marriage was not in his plans for the time being. He could possibly mean that he and Zygouli have not yet had a church ceremony and don't plan to, so as he follows Greek Orthodoxy devoutly, they would not be married by religious standards, however, the marriage would still be legal. Civil ceremonies are often done in Greece with eligitimate children involved, esp. for the reason of surname, but I haven't been able to find a single reliable source to ref this claim. This would be reason enough to remove the claim from the article, but in interviews, etc. Greek media often describes them as being married or they call Zygouli his wife. If anybody knows anything, please help! :S GreekStar12 (talk) 16:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

FA/GA review

I think that this article is ready for a FA or GA review, since that'll tell us what needs to be fixed up with it anyway. GreekStar12 (talk) 18:13, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

A GA review first would follow the general pattern and will present us with plenty of suggestions so fix up the page. Going straight to an FA review might be overwhelming since its guidelines are much stricter. You may however, wish to do am FA so that you don't do lots of stuff that is okay for a GA, but not for an FA. Either way, the waiting list for reviews is long, so I would suggest adding the page for whichever type of review you wish to take on. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Have the items on the to do list to the right been taken care of? That's a quick sign for the reviewer that the article isn't ready, so it should be updated or removed depending on its status. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:40, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

General issues

OK so these are some small things I noticed that often have circular edits or inconsistencies:

Club/venue/organizations names should not be italicized, they are places, not titles, nor should they be put in quotes.
Make sure all album/film titles are consistently italicized throughout, and songs in quotes.
We should translate Greek titles consistently, but only once.
OK, so this one is all over the place: should translated titles (in brackets) be lower case or all upper case like proper titles?
Also, should translated (bracket) titles of albums be italicized and ones of songs in quotations, or should they just be left plain since they are only translations?
Occupations in the infobox, as well as birthdate should not be linked, nor should most things in the lead, since it is a summary of words found in the body; make sure things in the body are only linked once.
Commas, periods, etc. should be placed inside the end quotation mark. GreekStar12 (talk) 09:12, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Title translations should be lowercase because they are not proper nouns. Not sure whether they should be italicized, but they should be in parenthesis(), not brackets. As for occupations being linked, words should only be linked once per section, not per article. Dates and years should not be linked at all. Commas, periods, etc should not be placed inside the end quotation mark as they are not part of the quote. Regarding the last part, there is no "official" way to do it in English grammar, so I tend to use the way that makes the most sense logically. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 15:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

BTW periods etc should be placed inside the quotation marks. it's really basic English grammatic rules. GreekStar12 (talk) 06:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Wrong. It's editors choice as proper grammar rules contradict each other. Therefore it should be common sense. Quotations are word for word, so unless the period, comma, etc are part of the quotation, they should be placed outside. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 07:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Too many wikiprojects

WikiProject Dance: A few Wikipedians have gotten together to make some suggestions about how we might organize data in articles about Dance. Here are some articles they deal with: 18th century dance - 20th century ballet - American folk dance - Ballet comique - Canadian step dance - Country Western Dance International. It's dance moves and competitions, not singers.

WikiProject Gymnastics: Some have formed this collaboration resource and group dedicated to improving Misplaced Pages's coverage of gymnastics, including the organization of information and articles on this topic area. Articles: European Championships, National championships by country, Other notable competitions, Gymnastics routines.

WikiProject Electronic music: This project seeks to categorize, organize and expand articles dealing with electronic music.

WikiProject Rock music: The Rock music WikiProject is a project, created on June 17, 2006, that helps to assemble editors interested in rock subgenres.

WikiProject Television: This is to guide the structure and normalize the standard of articles dealing with the Television medium and television series or other forms of episodic programs.

As you can see, Rouvas fits into none of these projects and they were removed for good reason. If you would like to have them included, please explain why I am "way off". Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 19:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

He is definitely not covered by WikiProject TV, so I have removed his listing. Jrh7925 (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Conflicts

Firstly, there was never any consensus whether the years go back to the front or not. Anyway it's better that they are behind so they can follow the same style as the albums, which is the format suggested by WP:Albums, we can't just use two diff year formats bcuz some user likes the look of it better, what's the point. Secondly, we've had this discussion many times and never reached a conclusion about changing the instruments and occupations. Like for instruments guitar is obvious, used in many shows, acknowledged (theofanous acknowledged it on x factor even lol) and all of the others are sourced. They have been acknowledged by other sources and musicians. For the lead the term musician sums up everything (since he has also written etc), not to mention it sounds more professional for a summary than singer. And as for the professions, they are all notable of him. Like someone who owns 4 businesses (EDO, S, Mariella, and future tv/film company) can definitely be considered a businessman, not to mention it is something unique for musicians of the Greek standard. He is often also credited as a dancer and up until the late 90s when he met Evangelinos he choreographed all of his own shows (that's sourced), and even today, like at the S Club he was credited for being very involved in the choreography, lighting etc (I can also get that source). I don't see how they are not notable of him. GreekStar12 (talk) 13:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

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