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• Discussions prior to January 2006 moved to Talk:Reed_College/archive
• January 2006 Dispute on "Drug Use" section moved to Talk:Reed_College/drug_use_dispute
• (Reminder to all: it is traditional to post new material at the bottom of the talk page. Sdedeo (tips) 17:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC))

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NPOV Debate (General)

This page is the subject of periodic spasms of change (and sometimes vandalism) from first-timers (either to Misplaced Pages or to the Reed page) who think the page is too positive about Reed. The "Drug Use" section (see talk below) is a frequent target, though several other sections get hit as well. The general comment is that the page is POV in being too positive. I have just done a brief survey of about 20 other small college pages, including Swarthmore, Haverford, Grinnell, and many others, and Reed's page is in no way unusual, certainly not in being overly positive. If someone wants to make a serious contribution about, e.g. the curriculum (too conservative?), to politics (too liberal?), or something else that can be based in some sort of objective fact, please feel free to do so. But consistent vandalism in the form of spurious negative commentary does not belong here. NPOV doesn't mean mindlessly adding negative comments until the page seems "balanced". Add facts, not opinions. -- Gnetwerker 06:40, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

drug use dispute archived

There was a contentious discussion over the "Drug Use" section of this article; it has now been resolved. The archive of that debate can be found here: Talk:Reed_College/drug_use_dispute. The consensus paragraphs were agreed to and I replaced them (as well as removing the NPOV tag, per agreement) in this edit. Thanks! Sdedeo (tips) 22:02, 26 January 2006 (UTC) (called in as part of medcab.)

Notable Alumni (redux)

I deleted Don Miller. The online bio for the person in questions says: "After his first book came out, Don spent a few years auditing classes and hanging out with students at Reed College". There is no actual way to simply "audit" classes at Reed. I have no doubt that he hung out there, as he claims to run a "ministry" there, though few on campus have heard of it or him. Nonetheless, to be a Reed alumnus, you need to have spent at least one semester there as an actual student (I think Steve Jobs sets the low bar on this one). If anyone has information to the contrary, please correct me. -- Gnetwerker 08:13, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Can't speak to this guy in particular, but I must mention that it is indeed (with the consent of the instructor) possible to audit classes at Reed. It's not often done, but there are rules and procedures for it and everything. I think it's currently priced at $150 per semester class. Matt Gies 17:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it's something like that. I was close. Matt Gies 18:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

You are right, I was wrong. Didn't pass the "current students" line in the policy. In any case, is someone who only audited classes an alumnus? (Not to mention whether this guy is "notable" vs. other Reed authors.) -- Gnetwerker 22:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)