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• “The rain it raineth on the just
  And also on the unjust fella,
  But chiefly on the just, because
  The unjust steals the just's umbrella”

• w:Charles Bowen

• 'Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?'
  'That depends a good deal on where you want to get to,' said the Cat.
  'I don't much care where —' said Alice.
  'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Cat

• 'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
  'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
  'How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
  'You must be,' said the Cat, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'
  

Welcome back!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Welcome back! Also, thanks for the barnstar. I think you deserve one of these too, for this particularly kind and civil conversation with a new user. I came across that conversation in December, from looking at one of the pictures that he had posted, and was happy to see that someone had been civil to him, especially since he seemed to be in a difficult situation! Cheers, CordeliaNaismith (talk) 02:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

How daft of me!

I should have awarded you with this right away.

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		I, Pericles, award User:Mbz1 this honorary barnstar in recognition of her most excellent and thoughtful work in touching up File:Arm less man.JPG, drastically improving the visual quality of a valuable historic image used in Parthian Empire and several other articles at Misplaced Pages. I bow to you madam, and thank you! Pericles of Athens 17:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much!--Mbz1 (talk) 21:22, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome! You can keep track of the progress I'm making on my draft here if you like: User:PericlesofAthens/Draft for Parthian Empire. I've yet to add your picture, but it will be placed in an appropriate section, most likely "nobility" or "art and architecture". Cheers buddy.--Pericles of Athens 22:25, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Well-deserved

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your many generous donations of gorgeous images (especially those breathtaking photos at User:Mbz1/Mbz1 gallery/Underwater), please accept this as a small token of my appreciation. –xeno 19:21, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for the nomination! I've missed on it.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:33, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

DYK for List of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners

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Calmer Waters 06:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ronald Levy

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Thelmadatter (talk) 23:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

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Mifter (talk) 08:40, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for Maimonides Synagogue

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Materialscientist (talk) 06:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Fata Morgana (mirage)

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I see this made it onto the all-time most-viewed list. Congratulations! --Avenue (talk) 10:30, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes it was a very big success as a DYK! Well done, especially on your great images. I was delighted to have been able to work on the text. Invertzoo (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Abraham Reuel

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Materialscientist (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for The geological history of Point Lobos

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:02, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Looming, Towering, Stooping, and Sinking

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Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jewish pirates

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Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bernese Fassnacht (Carnival)

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Materialscientist (talk) 16:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Majorcan cartographic school

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Carrier Pigeon (ship)

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Bradjamesbrown (talk) 06:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome Mila! Invertzoo (talk) 18:09, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Peacock flounder

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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Underwater camouflage and mimicry

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:01, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

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— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Australite

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— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Max Frauenthal

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

I don't hand Barnstars out very often, in fact, I can't remember the last time I did so. I had promised you one, if Herrengasse 23 became a DYK but, it seems the world and Misplaced Pages must remain in ignorance. However, you have contributed greatly to my crusade to give recognition to lesser and little known buildings - so here it is and you desearve it:

		The Content Creativity Barnstar
		To Mbz1 for his tremendous work and research in bringing Herrengasse 23 to a wider puplic appreciation.  Giacomo  18:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

PS: I would like to give Sandstein something similar for the really good photos, but don't think it wise to hand him a sharp pointy object when I am the vicinity. I will thnk on it.  Giacomo  18:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Herrengasse 23 (Bern)

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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Mifter (talk) 12:04, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Frederick Mayer (the spy)

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ali Bushnaq, Dudu Yifrah and Micha Yaniv

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DYK for The Grand Design (book)

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-- Cirt (talk) 06:03, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Great Comet of 1264

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jewish pope Andreas

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Sara Copia Sullam

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— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Earth's shadow

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mila, as you probably already know, Earth's shadow got 19.9k views on Oct 26th while it was a DYK! Invertzoo (talk) 13:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I did. Thank you for your great help.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes but you take the lion's share of the credit for putting together the article with your excellent image, and also most important, thinking of the idea in the first place! I did not even know what these colored bands were until I read the article!

By the way, when I was at Long Beach, Long Island 2 weeks ago, the same beach where I saw the superior mirage on the horizon a while ago, this time I saw an inferior mirage in the distance below Staten Island, which was on the horizon. I never saw an inferior mirage over the ocean before. I have learned a lot from you, Mila! I did not have my binoculars or a camera with me, but I will try to take them next time, although as I said before, on my regular camera the telephoto function does not give very much magnification at all. Anyway, thanks and good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 19:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan! Such comments from such a great person and such a great, respectful editor as you are keeping me going on Misplaced Pages. I'm looking forward seeing some of your images. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

You are very welcome Mila. I showed my husband some of your photos yesterday (the ones on your subpage) and he said that they are National Geographic quality. I agree. And by the way, it turns out that Earth's shadow got another 6.3k views on 27th October, so that makes a total of 26,200 views! I will put it on the "over 20,000" list. Invertzoo (talk) 22:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Susan!--Mbz1 (talk) 01:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome. And by the way, you now have your name on 4 out of the top 43 most-viewed DYKs so far in WP history. Only User:Materialscientist has as many as you in that list. I have 3, of which 2 of them are thanks to you. Invertzoo (talk) 19:28, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Susan, I am an absolutely unique editor on Misplaced Pages I am trying to be the first in everything I am doing:

The images I upload are one of the best ,

The articles I start are the most-viewed ...

My block log is one of the longest on Misplaced Pages but I hope that my blocking administrators will see this thread,realize how good I am, and will block me never again

But on a serious note, Susan, most of the articles I started would have never got finished without your generous help, including my favorite Fata Morgana (mirage). I am so lucky I found you!

Best wishes, and thank you for everything.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:08, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

It is an honor to work with someone who is such a fine photographer, and one who is interested in so many different kinds of subjects! Invertzoo (talk) 16:05, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!--Mbz1 (talk) 02:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Broderick – Terry duel

On 4 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Broderick – Terry duel, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Cirt (talk) 12:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Devastation in San Bruno.jpg, was nominated on Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Makeemlighter (talk) 04:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 2004 Iraq churches attacks

On 24 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 2004 Iraq churches attacks, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that on August 1, 2004, five Christian churches were car-bombed in Iraq within a few minutes of each another? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for King Philip shipwreck

On 27 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article King Philip shipwreck, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that at Ocean Beach in San Francisco, every so often the sand recedes enough to allow the 19th century shipwreck of the King Philip clipper ship (pictured) to become visible? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ravens of the Tower of London

On 12 December 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ravens of the Tower of London, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the ravens of the Tower of London are enlisted as soldiers of the Kingdom, and can be dismissed for unsatisfactory conduct? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

blocked

Straight off your interaction ban, you began wantonly hounding that editor and others, again. I have blocked you for one week, owing to harassment and disruption. If, when this block lifts, you carry on with this behaviour, your next block will be much longer. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Mbz1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I was blocked as a result of of this this thread The block reason is personal attacks, harassment and disruption. There was neither attack, nor harassment nor disruption. As you see the blocking admin has never provided any differences of any of my "crimes" . I was hounding nobody. I saw this post about user:Daedalus969 in my watch list and added my input to an/i. How it is hounding? I have no interaction ban with that user.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You know well by now that editors are supposed to be notified when they're discussed on ANI, so running around claiming "canvassing" is disingenuous at best. That frivolous SPI was clearly harassment, and you were properly blocked. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

• See the ANI thread linked above along with Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Daedalus969, which has been closed by another admin as a bad faith CU report by Mbz1. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

So you blocked me for a week for a bad faith report! It actually was not a bad faith report and it was not intended as a harassment. I really found this strange that a user will react the way they did on AN/I report that should have never been filed in the first place. I do not find it strange anymore, if even admin reacted the way she did. BTW may I please ask you to review what is wikihounding: Wiki-hounding is the singling out of one or more editors, and joining discussions on multiple pages or topics they may edit or multiple debates where they contribute, in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work. This is with an apparent aim of creating irritation, annoyance or distress to the other editor. Wikihounding usually involves following the target from place to place on Misplaced Pages. (highlighted by me) Now, when you have learned what is wikihounding please provide some examples of me ever wikihounding anybody. Please also provide examples of PA and disruption that were worth blocking for a weak or even for an hour for that matter.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, the ANI thread speaks for itself. Meanwhile Prodego warned you to stay away from that editor earlier today. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry, but I cannot find any differences of me wikihounding or personally attacking somebody or anybody. Could you please be so kind and provide the exact differences of me wikihounding and personal attacking somebody. Please just take them from that very AN/I report and post them here. --Mbz1 (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Honestly this AN/I report and the block look more and more as witch hunt, and witch hunt it is.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

• See the ANI thread which you linked to in your unblock request, along with this hollow arb enforcement request and the meaningless CU report I linked to above. If you don't understand what you've done, there may be a need to lengthen your block. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:15, 23 December

2010 (UTC)

And who decided that it was "this hollow arb enforcement request" You did? Let me see. On 17:35, 23 December 2010 that AE was first mentioned on AN/I. On 18:28, 23 December 2010 you blocked me after on 18:21, 23 December 2010 you made this edit ? So when you read the AE report and came to conclusion it is hollow? I do not believe you ever read it. I still see no evidences of wikihounding and or personal attacks. I do not believe you should keep your administrative tools.--Mbz1 (talk) 19:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

(ec) A few examples, just from your last 100 Contributions, which were mentioned in the ANI:

• this: "user:Daedalus969 harassed and wikihounded me all over wikipedia until an interaction ban (that I enjoyed very much) was issued between the user and me. Too bad it has expired. That user user:Daedalus969 will never drop the stick, and he wants to be an administrator!"
• this: "Even gatoclass never claimed anything about coatracks, but you right I did learn something, like how unpleasant some users, who hardly wrote a few articles themselves could be."
• this: "Rant, rant, rant. The users as you are only good to drive content contributes away"
• this edit summary: "get out of my section, even look of your signatue makes me sick"

Your Contributions page was linked from the very top of the ANI page, and as a result several different people requested that you be reminded of WP:BATTLEGROUND with a block. betsythedevine (talk) 19:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Indef-blocked by Gwen Gale Rd232 12:51, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

• Mbz1, given your posts in the aftermath of this block, I think the likelihood of further harassment and disruption from you is much longer than one week and hence, I've lengthened the block to indefinite. You can appeal this block and its lenghtening by posting {{unblock|why I should be unblocked}} below. However, before posting another unblock request, I would think you should carefully read Misplaced Pages:Guide_to_appealing_blocks. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I could have responded and explained every difference that betsythedevine provided above, but I will not bother. There's no use. I am guilty of nothing.

Gwen Gale, don't worry. I am not going to post unblock request or/and appeal the block. I have done nothing to be blocked for, and you still did not present any differences to support the claim of wikihounding and personal attacks because the above differences are not personal attacks .

I have never done anything in purpose to harass and/or wikihound anybody. I was wikihounded and harass way too much myself to do this to anybody. This SPI I filed could have been filed as a mistake, in a hurry, but it was not filed in bad faith and it was not filed to harass anybody. I myself was the subject of 2 SPI with much less (practically no evidences) They both were approved, were run, came back as "unrelated" and nobody ever got even warn over any of them leave alone blocked. --Mbz1 (talk) 20:24, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

This block isn't about guilt Mbz1, it's about things you have done which stalled building the encyclopedia by wasting the time of volunteer editors on this privately owned website, with all its flaws. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Since you've edit warred over a misleading template at the top of this page, I have locked you out of your talk page. You can ask to be unblocked by email, through WP:BASC. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:01, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

• Comment. This appears to be a flawed block. Ab initio, the blocking admin failed to supply any evidence to support the charge of "wantonly hounding that editor and others, again". The denial of the unblock request, which stood on grounds that differed from the original block, was similarly flawed. It cited "editors are supposed to be notified when they're discussed on ANI". That is true. Failure to do so happens all the time, for all sorts of reasons, and is on a regular basis addressed by other editors indicating it should be done or doing it themselves -- this is not by any means a blockable offense, and the assertion that it is suggest a wholly unequal application of the rules. Running around claiming "canvassing" where it is arguably disingenuous has happened as well in other areas without blocks being applied -- if Sarek really believes this is a blockable offense, I would like to know so I can direct him to editors who are doing precisely that, and ask him to block them forthwith -- nobody else has done so. Sarek's view that the SPI was frivolous is Sarek's point of view; that is not "clearly harassment". The diffs that Betsy provides are frivolous, and clearly not blockable offenses (really -- does she think it is a blockable offense to say "Rant, rant, rant. The users as you are only good to drive content contributes away" -- this only demonstrates how far she is reaching to try to make a silk purse out of a cow's ear). Gwen's extension of her own block to indef for what she perceives as "likelyhood of harassment" is as flawed as the spelling -- I see no basis for an extension of any sort, let alone an extension to indef, and find it odd that the same involved sysop is reacting to criticisms of her actions by engaging in further questionable actions.

I think we need some non-involved sysops who have not been formerly involved with this or with the blocked editor (and who are not wikifriends of the blockers) to review this. --Epeefleche (talk) 22:22, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

• I have never (as far as I can remember) interacted with this editor, and am not "wikifriends" of the blocking editor (sorry Gwen, but you know what I mean). I have looked at the evidence here and can see nothing that says this block is incorrect. The user's block log is effectively the best evidence here - at some point we have to say "seriously, we are all volunteers here, and you're wasting our time - go and waste someone else's". Black Kite (t) (c) 22:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hi again BK. Thanks. Can you be more specific as to what in the above precisely warrants an indef block. Including, in draconian manner, a block on the user's own talk page? This seems quite out of the ordinary under these specific circumstances. I've addressed the circumstances with specificity above. Among other things, if you believe that running around claiming "canvassing" where it is arguably disingenuous is a blockable offense, I would like to know so I can direct you to editors who are doing precisely that, and ask you to block them forthwith. Uneven application of even-handed rules is, I know, something that you seek to avoid assiduously.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

• Mbz seems to have gone out of his way to cause problems, agreed with my suggestion he avoid interacting with users with whom he has had problems in the past, and then did it again. I can't see any other explanation except that his only intention is to cause the maximal amount of disruption he can. Thus, I support an indefinite block as well, and I am uninvolved. Prodego 01:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, this is pretty much what I see as well. This is the sort of behaviour one expects from a SPA or new editor, not an experienced one. When an experienced editor apparently deliberately does exactly what they've been asked not to do, it is difficult to assume good faith. Having said that, indefinite does not mean infinite - if Mbz1 can convince the community that they will cease their disruptive behaviour and stick to any interaction/topic ban that is organised, then I don't see any reason why they should not be unblocked, with the caveat that any further repeat of the behaviour will mean an actual indefinite ban. Black Kite (t) (c) 01:06, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
• Prodego raises an interesting point. If a sysop makes a suggestion that is not agreed with, which is simply a suggestion, that is one thing. But Prodego indicates that Mbz agreed with the suggestion, and then failed to follow up accordingly. I think that calls for an explanation from Mbz, and would be interested in what Mbz has to say on that point.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

WRT the diffs I provided -- Mbz1 had repeatedly asked for diffs, claiming she made no attacks on anyone. I never suggested that any single diff was a blockable offense -- anybody can have a bad day. But what is striking in this case is the number of different kinds of examples of WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality, including but not limited to her offensive personal remarks to many different editors just in the top 100 edits of her contribution list, plus filing a nuisance SPI, plus accusing editors who were notifying others of their mention on an ANI of canvassing, plus starting an edit war on this talk page which is what led to Mbz1's being blocked from editing it. Not to mention wikilawyering about the exact wording of WP:WIKIHOUND because the word "hounding" was used in its conventional English meaning by the blocking admin. Instead of learning from the one-week block, Mbz1 continued to give more evidence that she did not feel she had to change her behavior in any way. betsythedevine (talk) 00:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

The diffs both individually and as a whole are IMHO frivolous. And clearly not blockable (let alone indef blockable) offenses. The one cited is just a stark example of the extreme effort being made to turn nothing into something -- it would not even garner an incivility warning in the normal course.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

• I closed this arbitration enforcement request and agree with the block. It is needed at this time to prevent further disruption. Jehochman 01:57, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Note: I've reinstated Mbz1's talk page access, and added in the indef-block template (edit warring over this seemed the cause of the access removal) at the appropriate place in this thread. Removing talkpage access for a user who's just been indef-blocked for non-obvious reasons shouldn't be done lightly, and it wasn't absolutely necessary here. Rd232 12:51, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I've also started Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_review. Rd232 12:59, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Your e-mail

In reply to your e-mail,

"You are probably the last person I could count on to help me, but I will try. I am not asking you to review my block, but why my talk page access was removed. I only added the template http://en.wikipedia.org/Template:Indefinite
I believe I am allowed to have such things at my talk page."

I believe that this issue is moot. The purpose of your talk page is for you to communicate with others with respect to your Misplaced Pages editing. If you no longer edit Misplaced Pages, the talk page has no purpose for you. Because you are indefinitely blocked and have said, above, that you do not intend to appeal your block, you have no need to edit your talk page. It is therefore not necessary for me to review whether the removal of your talk page access was correct.  Sandstein  07:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

It sounds correct that (and I am not clear if this is the case) if the user does not wish to appeal his indef block, there is no need for access to this page to be granted. If the user were to wish to appeal his block, or to discuss the rationale for it with an eye to possibly appealing it, I would think that it would be appropriate to restore access for that purpose.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:30, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

The access should be restored. Blocking Mbz1 might be appropriate. Blocking and gagging seems overly harsh and unnecessary.

Also, I want to go on the record as saying that this user clearly has something to offer WP. A quick review of some of the photography uploaded by this editor should make that blatantly clear. I'd call for more stringent topic/interaction bans over indef block. NickCT (talk) 08:01, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, topic or interaction bans require cooperation from the banned editor. All that admins can do to enforce those is to block (globally) for violations. Unlike parking tickets, which are for the same amount every time, it seems that blocks in Misplaced Pages are escalating in length. So, Mbz1 is the only one who can improve on this situation. Tijfo098 (talk) 11:13, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Given that there's ongoing discussion on ANI, including an unblock review, it seems only fair that Mbz1 have access to her talk page in order to address comments on ANI and answer questions, etc. Can we please at least do that much? - Alison 13:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I think Rd232 restored talk page access before you posted this. Tijfo098 (talk) 13:56, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Cool beanz - thanks :) - Alison 14:01, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Just to make you smile

I know how you feel, but just to make you smile, I would like to remind you what Misplaced Pages consensus looks like. Feeling better already? Good :)--Broccoli (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I think this is the first time I'm posting to your talk page. I actually liked some of your articles, e.g. the one on the ravens of the Tower of London. You seem to be a valuable contributor, but please lay off filing a kiloton of administrative requests. I see no reason for the admins not to lift your block if you agree to that. Tijfo098 (talk) 10:39, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Christmas Card

My apology

Dear Rd232, may I please ask to accept my sincere apology for what I said to you in a past? You are a kind and a fair person and a great, unafraid administrator! I definitely do not deserve such kindness from you. If I were able, I would have given you a barnstar, but I am not able to do it at your talk page, and to post it here would be kind of silly i guess.

I would also like to apologize to Sandstein for emailing them last night. Silly me believed that it was OK to email an administrator and to ask to review removing of my talk page access, but thanks to user:Betsythedevine I realized now that I was "canvassing". So, Sandstein, I am really sorry I canvased you. It was a good faith email. It was not my intention at all to create you any troubles because of that. This all comes from my misunderstanding of the policy. You see, I believed that this is a good example of Canvassing because the message cannot be called "neutral" (IMO), and because this very administrator ended up blocking me, but now I am starting to realize how wrong my understanding of the policies really is! This message was simply a notification Wonder why only this particular administrator was "notified", but anyway.... My email to you was Canvassing. Maybe I should have emailed to my blocking administrator instead of emailing to you, but honestly I was simply afraid because, when I said "a" she blocked me for a week, when I said "b" a week long block was changed to indefinite, when I said "c" she removed my talk page access, so I was sure, if I am to email her (say "d") she will remove my email access too :)

To all, who posted here I wish to thank you for taking your time to stop by and for sharing your thoughts with me.

To everybody I wish Happy Holidays!

--Mbz1 (talk) 20:23, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello

FYI, I just filed a complaint against User:Nableezy here. Since you have been involved in this user's recent violations on Egypt, so your contribution to the discussion is appreciated. --λⲁⲛτερⲛιξ 22:01, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

I am blocked indefinitely. You are probably the only one who does not know:) Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 22:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

So let me see

What I was blocked for:

1. I filed AE concerning user:Supreme Deliciousness. The only thing I have done was to collect evidences presented about the user in other AEs by me and other editors for an easy reading. I did add a few new ones. I even added this comment to explain filing of AE: *Comment to administrators: The purpose of this AE is mostly to make your life easier by putting all the evidences about SD that appear in a few different AEs together. Have I done something wrong by filing this AE? No, I did not. I have a great concern about user editing and filed an AE in a good faith. It was closed improperly. My block should not have impacted the discussion. AE should not have been closed by an admin, who never read it only because the filer is blocked. here on a different AE request at least 3 administrators have agreed that SD editing has is problematic Once again the only thing I have done was putting the evidences from 2 different AE in one for an easier reading and adding a few other ones. It was filed in a neutral tone, and at least one administrator was interested in getting SD explanations even it was opened for only a short time. I am not sorry for filing this AE report, it should be reopened, but I promise, if I am ever unblocked, never again contribute to AE.
2. My next "crime" was this post on AN/I thread started by somebody else. It was a good faith post not to harass anybody, but to help an editor, who found themselves in a similar situation I was.A few months back somebody helped me to deal with harassment by that user I felt obligated to help somebody else. There was no PA and, no harassment intended in that post, but I promise, if I am ever unblocked, never again contribute to AN/I and stay away from that user.
3. The list of my other "crimes" is kindly provided by user:Betsythedevine just above have no PA and no harassment in them. Besides my posts were taken out of content. If somebody blames me in plagiarism it is a rant. Also it should be noticed that English is not my first language, and sometimes I might use the words in a wrong way, but here's a dictionary entry for "rant" Does this look like it could be a PA?
4. SPI report. I did file it not to harass. Only idiots could file SPI to harass, if they know it will come out negative. Was it my mistake to file it? Yes, it was. Was it filed in a bad faith? No, it was not! Here I'd like to ask everybody to assume a good faith towards my action too, but I promise, if I am ever unblocked, never again file another SPI. It appears to be much safer to be a subject of one :) as I was on at least 2 occasions.
5. My accusation in users "canvasing" made my unblock request declined. Well, this is a tricky one. I read that "However canvassing which is done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way is considered inappropriate" I believed that notifying 3 users I had disagreement with without notifying any one, who might have supported me falls under this description of inappropriate canvasing. OK, I read the policy wrong. Did I really? Should I have been blocked for this? No, maybe warned, maybe explained, but not blocked!
6. The other "crime" I accused in is a disruption of the project. No, I did not disrupt the project, a valid AE request (and I insist it was valid), a 4 posts on AN/I (3 in a thread about me), and a a single wrong SPI could not, and should not be called a disruption.
7. Somebody suggested, if I am ever unblocked to post me on indefinite topic ban for I/P conflict related areas.I do not mind this sanction at all. It is much healthier to have such ban, but I would like to understand what I have done wrong in this area? I am not edit warring, I rarely edit in the area at all. Yes, I filed 2 AE requests in the last week. IMO and in opinion of at least 3 administrators they have at least some merits. But let's assume I have done something wrong with those AE. Then ban me from AE, but why to ban me from I/P conflict in whole? I asked this question only for my own understanding, as I said I am perfectly fine with being banned for the area.

• OK, I am not saying that I was absolutely right in all my actions listed above. I believe no reasonable person could claim being absolutely right, but IMO I did not deserve to be blocked. Nothing of what I have done or said was done or said in a bad faith. Nothing of what I have done or said was done or said to harass somebody. Nothing of what I have done or said was done or said to wikihound anybody.
• I am not saying that I should be unblocked because of my many positive contributions. I am saying that any editor in my situation should have been unblocked (or rather never blocked).--Mbz1 (talk) 23:42, 24 December 2010 (UTC)