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Hangakiran
Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Request concerning Hangakiran
- User requesting enforcement
- Biruitorul 22:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Hangakiran (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sanction or remedy that this user violated
- Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#Enforcement
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- The editor continues to refer to his opponents' ethnicity in a content dispute, thereby creating a battleground atmosphere. Saying "all the Hungarian editors have been banned. The discussion is now entirely one where I am left to defend against many Romanian editors who have started hounding the discussion" is not acceptable.
- Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)
- Warning by Timotheus Canens (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) Hangakiran was specifically warned: "I consider using the nationality of editors as an argument prima facie evidence of sanctionable misconduct under WP:DIGWUREN".
- Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)
- I request that action be taken to stop Hangakiran from referring to content opponents' ethnicity.
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
- This comment by Hangakiran, made 17 minutes after T. Canens's warning, strikes me as evidence that he did read it. - Biruitorul 17:13, 31 March 2011 (UTC) (Moved from admin section)
- Hangakiran, you just don't get it, do you? You are not to refer to editors' ethnicity, actual or perceived, because it creates a battleground mentality and assumes, absurdly, that editors of a particular ethnicity will all think the same way. You were warned for this by an administrator and brought here for the same reason. Now you go on to defend your canvassing of "Hungarian Editors", cry about "being hounded by Romanian editors", and raise a claim about "Hungarian editors being banned from contributing". You're incorrigible, it seems, and I really am not sure what good your single-purpose account is doing at this point. - Biruitorul 13:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
- Hangakiran notified here.
Discussion concerning Hangakiran
Statement by Hangakiran
I would like to bring to notice here that the Diff Biruitorul is referring to was posted against Dahn. If you see what has been posted, Dahn persistently used instigating, rude statements like "I'm not going to waste the day bickering about this with you," and later in the same post "Carry on "answering" if you will, but expect to lose all your remaining credibility when you're manipulating info with sophistry.". This I do consider as rude. Since my requests for contribution from Hungarian Editors to the discussion was declared as canvassing, it so happened that all my posts started having counter-posts form either Biruitorul or Dahn. That is when Dahn started being rude and I warned him. In spite of my warnings, he continued even suggesting I stop, which is not in his right to do so. If one looks at the discussion, Biruitorul replies to my replies to Dahn and Dahn replies to my rebuttals to Biruitorul. If the discussion and their involvement is impartial, why do they keep replying for each other? Lastly, when I pointed out that in the discussion I am being hounded by Romanian editors, I would like to clarify I meant that the Hungarian editors being banned from contributing because of alleged canvassing, I was left to defend against these two editors who constantly hounded me by the tone and tenor of their posts. It meant nothing more. Hangakiran (talk) 09:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning Hangakiran
- Hangakiran's editing pattern is seemingly problematic in that up to this date he only has a single edit that is not related to Janos Boros somehow. Everyone who is on wikipedia for some time is familiar with this practice, of a user showing strong involvement with a single topic (usually a biography). However referring to ethnic issues was unhelpful in this case as the issue was clearly not about that. Hangakiran could be a good editor if he decides to get involved with wikipedia other than trying to maximize the wikipedia coverage of a single person. Hobartimus (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Result concerning Hangakiran
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.
- I agree with T. Canens's warning that "using the nationality of editors as an argument prima facie evidence of sanctionable misconduct", and as such am open to enacting a short topic ban.
But I'm not sure whether a warning left on another user's talk page is enough to satisfy the notification requirement, given that there is no evidence that Hangakiran has read it. What do others think? Sandstein 16:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- Biruitorul, yes, I agree that the diff indicates that the warning was read. Sandstein 17:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Leidseplein
Leidseplein warned of WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions. Sandstein |
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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. |
Request concerning Leidseplein
There's a couple more in the same vein but that I think is more than enough. There are also a couple strange statements which aren't really any violations but are worth pointing out
Like I said the above three are not obviously any kind of violations of Misplaced Pages policy but they do seem strange to me.
Response to Leidseplein's accusations
More general comment: I think I can see what happened here. I first "met" Leidseplein at Siege of Kolberg where he provided a third opinion. Our interaction was positive. He came to my talk page and asked me to review his article. So far so good, very nice interaction and at that point I was happy to have run into him (always could use more people writing articles about Poland). Then all of sudden he just blew up at me at Western Betrayal. I was extremely puzzled by this 180-degree change in his attitude; friendly and reasonable before, going straight for the personal attacks and accusations all of sudden. I think the key to the mystery lies in the presence of these "two sekrit" editors, who apparantly, are unwilling to say anything to me personally. Sometime between me reviewing Leidseplein's article for him and the situation at Western Betrayal, he was contacted by these individuals who egged him on and ... well, got him into trouble.
Discussion concerning LeidsepleinStatement by LeidsepleinThe editor complaining against me is IMO trying to retaliate for a 3rd Opinion I provided in Talk:Siege of Kolberg (1807). He suddenly started shadowing me, harassing me and disrupting everything I do on wikipedia after the opinion I provided. After numerous false accusations (like accusing me of double reverts), threats, hypocritical accusations of personal attacks, inapplicable appeals to wiki policy and an overall inability to accept cited facts contrary to his POV at Talk:Western betrayal, he has resorted to this overblown and excessively verbose attempt to quash facts he doesn't like...all in service of promoting his version of history (only) and without offering any form of compromise and wihout accepting or countering any of several offered compromise solutions I offered on the talk pages.
The statement of my position about the article in question and the full record are available on the Western Betrayal talk pages. This, along with my 3rd opinion on Talk:Siege of Kolberg (1807) is where the main explanation for this complaint by Volunteer Marek can be found, and my contributions there speak for themselves, both good and bad.
Since Volunteer Marek is asking for nothing except to have me notified that sanctions exist on Misplaced Pages, consider me notified. Best wishes.Leidseplein (talk) 18:50, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning LeidsepleinAim was a Digwuren notification. Which has been implicitly acknowledged by Leidseplein as being understood. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. Close this. Collect (talk) 20:51, 31 March 2011 (UTC) (apparently inadvertently removed) Collect (talk) 21:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC) Leidesplein, could you please provide differences (i.e, direct quotes with links to specific postings to the talk pages) in order to support your statement. TFD (talk) 21:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC) I notice that Leidesplein has never been warned and therefore the request should have been presented to ANI instead. I suggest that the request be moved there where there will be greater input from the community. TFD (talk) 21:36, 31 March 2011 (UTC) Result concerning Leidseplein
Most of the diffs submitted as evidence are not really problematic, but on the whole they do paint a picture of rather passionate argumentativeness, so I am warning Leidseplein to abide by the following principles enunciated by the Arbitration Committee. They apply, of course, to Volunteer Marek and others as well, and this warning is not to be construed as an endorsement of any inappropriate conduct by Volunteer Marek or others.
Noncompliance with these principles and other rules of conduct may result in sanctions as provided for in WP:DIGWUREN#Discretionary sanctions. Sandstein 07:11, 1 April 2011 (UTC) |
BenJonson
Request concerning BenJonson
User against whom enforcement is requested = User:BenJonson
Note: He also edits under IPs 68.55.45.214, 76.69.101.88, and 131.118.144.253.
Sanction or remedy that this user violated Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Conduct_and_decorum
- Impugns Paul B and accuses him of calling him and others holocaust deniers (later changed to "Nazis").
- (2nd and 3rd edits down) Impugns honesty of James S. Shapiro and claims he’s my "hero".
- Again accuses Paul of calling him and others Nazis.
- Strongly implies that I colluded with Shapiro to edit the SAQ page to his specifications.
- More along that line (see entire discussion for subsequent edits and half-denials, thereby having it both ways).
- More personal attacks.
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Tendentious_editing
- Adding a clearly non-WP:RS reference to SAQ page from journal that he edits.
- Does so again from same journal with no discussion after being reverted.
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Talk_pages
Also most of the examples given here are from talk pages.
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Casting_aspersions
- Continuing to make aspersions of collusion after being asked to retract his remarks.
- Same again, plus accusation that Nishidani threatened him and that Paul, Nishidani, and I had taken "ownership" of the SAQ page.
- Denies specifically saying I acted to promote Shapiro’s book while at the same time intimating that I did so (and spamming the page with an external link for his blog).
- Accuses administrators of colluding with editors to suppress "open discourse".
- Accuses Paul, Nishidani and I of acting "with impunity and the apparent sanction of Misplaced Pages admins".
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Revealing_personal_information
- Refers to my RL employment (although mistakenly; sheriff’s office’s don’t have public relations departments.)
Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Shakespeare_authorship_question#Disruptive_influence
- Encouraging the continued flouting of community norms by banned SPA editor AdamBerg (as well as spamming his page with external links of Knitwitted’s blog)
- Encouraging the continued flouting of community norms by banned SPA editor Zwiegenbaum
- Encouraging the continued flouting of community norms by banned SPA editor Smcamilc
Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to
- Warning by User:Bishonen
- Warning by User:Future Perfect at Sunrise
- Warning by User:EdJohnston
- Asked to remain civil by User:Nikkimaria
- Another warning by Nikkimaria.
Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction) I will leave that to the administrators, although I do think he has been warned more than enough about his bullying and supercilious behaviour. My wish is that the personally offensive remarks be withdrawn and that he apologise to each editor. Tom Reedy (talk) 20:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Additional comments: Please reformat where needed. I found this to be a very difficult template to use and the instructions impenetrable. IMO it should be replaced by a simpler template.
- I've done the necessary reformatting (adding the standard headers) and am here noting your notification of BenJonson. Sandstein 20:49, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Discussion concerning BenJonson
Statement by BenJonson
Comments by others about the request concerning BenJonson
Result concerning BenJonson
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.
- Preliminary question: is it certain the IPs are all him? Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:59, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Congratulating others for getting topic banned, and making references to editors' RL situations? This is about as bad as it gets. IMO it doesn't really matter if the IPs are him or not. I'm minded to indef him under the general admin power to prevent disruption, and we can add an indef topic ban per the discretionary sanctions on top of that. T. Canens (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, the overall picture is pretty clear, isn't it. Not sure the double measure is needed – a topic ban alone would boil down to pretty much the same effect, I guess. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)