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John W. Ross

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No reliable source given to establish his notability -- indeed, it's not established that all the buildings listed here were actually designed by the same J. Ross. Designing notable buildings does not automatically make you notable. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Keep The AFD is a response to some content disagreement, or really just some temporary lack of complete information, at Talk:John W. Ross. The resolution of that will be clarification that there was one architect in both Iowa and North Dakota in that era (most likely), or that there were two notable architects, both deserving of Misplaced Pages articles. An architect who has major public works such as substantial city halls of moderate sized cities, and multiple buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places for their architecture, is going to be Misplaced Pages notable.

To SarekOfVulcan: I have noticed you have opened a number of administrative proceedings and requested moves and AFDs and other actions, sometimes without your actually taking a position, as if to merely test the waters, and call for other editors to resolve some question. If you don't actually have a position that is really your opinion that you will defend, I would call those "false" proposals. Which is this? Is this a false proposal, or do you seriously think this article should be deleted? --doncram 17:40, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

• I found coverage in Google Books for St. Stanislaus Catholic Church in Warsaw, ND and the Plummer House in Hillsboro, ND. I also found a couple web references for Davenport Hose Station #1 and Davenport City Hall. I don't know if this guarantees that the "John Ross" who designed all these buildings is the same person, since "John Ross" could be a reasonably common name. Since this John W. Ross designed at least a few notable buildings that are on the National Register, I'm going with keep for now, but I'd like to see more evidence that the same John W. Ross actually designed all of these buildings. His name is more common than Clarence H. Johnston, Sr.. --Elkman 20:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

  I saw some of those refs, but discounted Directory of historic house museums in the United States because it's only a mention of the name, not significant coverage of the architect. America's religious architecture is a bit better, because it establishes him as having built many other buildings in ND -- but nothing yet connects all the buildings listed here. Especially as the QCMemory links refer to him as a "local Davenport" architect known for local buildings. I would think that we'd need a birth or death date to nail down notability here.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

• Keep based on clear sourcing that he was an important North Dakota architect. Whether the Iowa architect is the same person is not an issue for AfD.--Arxiloxos (talk) 21:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

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