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Alinor
Placed on-notice of ARBMAC#Discretionary sanctions. Request for clarification filed at WP:A/R/CL. AGK 14:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Request concerning Alinor
While under a topic-ban from Kosovo-related articles, Alinor did engage in a edit-war in an article related to the same topic (or to be more precise, he edit-warred over the same topic on a related article). Note the current sanction was for edit-warring.
March 4, 2011. Alinor was topic-banned from Kosovo-related articles for a period of three months . After this happens: 1. A long dispute over the sorting criteria for List of sovereign states ends in an informal mediation stage. A rough consensus emerges, but two users (Alinor among them) refuse to compromise with the majority. The mediator closes the mediation as unresolved. 2. While moving to close the mediation, the mediator states: "I suggest that a sufficient consensus on sandbox 3i2 has developed here for it to be implemented directly over any objections. Those who might still object are (obviously) within their rights to challenge that action, but I strongly recommend that any such challenge not involve further debate between these participants, but be turned over to third parties via RfC, 3rd Opinion, formal mediation, or arbitration." 3. Indeed, the mediation closes with thirteen users accepting this sandbox as a new version of the page to be improved on. You can see evidence of acceptance here . The "3i2 version" becomes the consensual version accepted by thirteen users, while the two opposers (Alinor among them) continue to object to it without proposing any alternative than convinces the community. Note this sandbox was created and proposed on 21 May. 4. Time is given for the sandbox to be reviewed and objections raised. Since no more users object about it, it is incorporated into the main article space on 29 May. It should be noted that the two opposers made no alternative proposals during this period, despite being repeatedly prompted to do so (they continued to cling to their positions made during the mediation, failing to compromise with the consensus adopted by the other users). The acceptance of this version is not implied to be a claim on ownership of the article or to unilaterally close the dispute resolution process. 5. , , , One of the two opposers begins to edit war over the consensus version with several other users, intending to restore the previous version . An uninvolved administrator intervenes and determines this version is the consensus version. 6. After the administrator has made his call, Alinor continues the edit war, claiming no consensus exists. Page is protected after this. On the talk page and on the mediation, Alinor has stated repeatedly that his reasons for opposing the consensus have to do in part with how "RoK" (Republic of Kosovo) is portrayed. Three examples: , , . He is not satisfied with the current consensus but instead of following proper avenues for continuing dispute resolution, has engaged in edit-warring. Alinor, during the duration of a temporal topic ban, knowingly and willingly engaged in an edit war in a related article, explicitly stating that one of his reasons to edit-war was an inconformity with the portrayal of Kosovo in the page. I argue that this is acting against the spirit of the previous sanction applied to Alinor. I read that in the previous case, where he earned the topic-ban, he edit-warred, tried to WP:BLUDGEON the process and did not engage in constructive listening of other people's points (WP:HEAR). He apparently did not learn anything from the previous AE, because he is adopting the same behaviour in this case.
At the time of engaging in the edit war (June 1) , Alinor was under a three-month topic ban (set to expire on June 4, 2011). Appropriate admin warnings and arbitration decisions can be found here:
Extension of the current topic ban.
In case somebody wants to argue that Alinor did not "edit war" because he made only one edit to the page, it must be emphasized again that an administrator intervened to restore a page to a consensual version after an edit-war, and Alinor continued the edit war in defiance of the admin action. In addition, this probably goes without saying, but if my behaviour in this case deserves a sanction I am completely willing to accept it, no questions asked.
Discussion concerning AlinorStatement by AlinorComments by others about the request concerning Alinor@T.Canens, is there any obvious reason to treat this any harsher than any other 'ethnic' AE area? In other words, is there a good reason to think that this slightly different wording was deliberate? - BorisG (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2011 (UTC) Result concerning Alinor
One second. The drafting of WP:ARBKOS is....not a work of art. WP:ARBKOS#Modified states that "editors of Kosovo and related articles who engage in edit warring, incivility, original research, or other disruptive editing, may be banned for an appropriate period of time, in extreme cases indefinitely." What ban are we talking about here? Contemporary cases, such as Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Honda S2000, seems to indicate that "ban" here is used in the sense of a site ban or block and not a topic ban. Has Alinor been warned about WP:ARBMAC#Discretionary sanctions? T. Canens (talk) 12:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
I propose that we formally warn Alinor per WP:ARBMAC#Discretionary sanctions and call it a day. I find working with ARBKOS excessively frustrating. For instance, which enforcement provision should we follow, Misplaced Pages:ARBKOS#Enforcement by block or Misplaced Pages:ARBKOS#Enforcement by block 2? Perhaps we can request clarification from arbcom (except that none of the arbs who participated in that decision are serving), but I don't think it's worth the effort given that the general sanctions of ARBKOS would have been entirely subsumed by ARBMAC but for the additional warning requirement, which is not that big of a deal. T. Canens (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Interjection: I wasn't on the Committee in 2006 but it appears that EdJohnston is correct, that enforcement 1 and enforcement 2 were meant as alternatives but wound up both being passed instead. From the proposed decision page, I suspect that enforcement 2 would probably have been first choice if anyone had asked the arbitrators at the time, but it's too late now. I also agree, individually, that T. Canens' suggestion to use the more up-to-date remedy structure from the Macedonia case makes sense. If anyone wants to post a request for clarification to make this more official, I have no objection. Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:23, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
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Lutrinae
Topic banned from I/P, 4 months. Restricted to one account on I/P pages, 1 year. AGK 11:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Request concerning Lutrinae
There are so many violations of the sanctions that I'm struggling a bit to know where to start here. This is a single purpose account who seems to be a textbook example of the kind of tendentious and disruptive editor the sanctions were designed to keep under control. I and others have tried to be patient with this editor but it hasn't helped. Intervention is now required. This all started at the beginning of February 2011 when the editor started editing the Palestinian people article from dynamic IP's listed below, registered to the University of Hawaii.
He subsequently registered as Lutrinae on 28 April 2011, two days after the article was semi-protected because of disruption , much of which was caused by him. Disruptive misuse of edit summaries He has a very bad habit of using edit summaries that misrepresent the nature of his edits. Here the editor removes reliably sourced, policy compliant material He was reverted.
He repeated the edit together with a few more changes.
He was reverted again. He repeated the edit together with a few more changes.
He was reverted again. I think the cycle was repeated at least one more time. A particularly disruptive cycle Here is the beginning of a particularly disruptive cycle. The editor removed information from an impeccably reliable academic source by Assaf Likhovski, a book that was awarded the Yonathan Shapiro Best Book Award in Israel Studies in 2007. He also removed 2 more reliable references.
To his credit he came to my talk page to explain. Unfortunately that made matters worse. Please read it in full because it provides an overview of everything that is wrong with this editor's approach in microcosm. Can I ask that only admins who are willing to look at the substance of the discussion and spend the time to read it involve themselves in this AE report please ? It isn't very long but it includes examples of the editor's extreme tendentiousness, the disruptive dismissing of reliably sourced information based on his own real world opinions, an admission that he didn't read the source cited, an accusation that I didn't read the source (...somewhat puzzling given that I added the content and source...please note the effort I made to make sure that he could see the source for himself), and the extraordinary degree to which the editor assumes bad faith. The editor has repeated his removal of this information again , and again , and again (note that he refers to content from an RS as OR, a common theme). Before the last edit I posted a warning on the article talk page Talk:Palestinian_people#Stop_the_disruption at 05:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC) that I would take this to AE if it continues. The disruption has not stopped. He still went ahead with the last edit and he continues to repeat the false and bizarre accusations about having "caught me in a lie" about the Likhovski source despite the extensive discussions on my talk page where I made sure he could see it for humself, despite me reminding him of that, and despite another editor, OhioStandard, explaining it to him again. I have demanded that he strike the accusations. I don't mind what he accuses me of no matter how ludicrous it is and but he can't be allowed to behave like this in the topic area. Repeated disruptive removal of pictures The editor has repeatedly removed pictures, some of which are featured pictures, and has been reverted by multiple users. (see , , , and . I may have missed some. I had a discussion with the editor about this disruption on my talk page early in the cycle. User_talk:Sean.hoyland/Archive_3#Palestinian_pictures. It also been discussed on the article talk page to no avail (Talk:Palestinian_people#A_leaner_article_would_be_a_better_article.) There have also been various other issues such as objections to his repeated use of the term "Pally" to describe Palestinians, his tendentious style of arguing without sources and what not. I will supply diffs if necessary later.
topic ban...at least for a while. Let him learn to edit in other areas for a while.
This editor is not all bad. Some of his challenges have been useful (e.g. I made some picture captioning changes in light of somne of his comments) but he must not be allowed to carry on as he is right now in this topic area. He needs to learn at the very least to provide sources to support his statements and to stop voicing his personal opinions....and of course not making patently false accusations.
Discussion concerning LutrinaeStatement by LutrinaeComment by Zero0000This filing is overdue. Lutrinae is pure disruption with no redeeming features. He can't even bear the word "Palestinian" which he thinks is a "ridiculous phrase" , preferring instead the word "Pally" that is popular on racist web pages. Please help him to go away so we can get some proper editing done. Zero 10:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning LutrinaeResult concerning Lutrinae
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Clarification required on scope of Israel-Palestine articles
All articles in the Palestine-Israel conflict space are currently under a 1-revert per day restriction. There's an article - The Sergeants affair - that deals with events in July- August of 1947 (hanging of 2 British mandate soldiers by Irgun) which to me is obviously within the scope of the restriction. An editor has claimed that because Israel was only founded in 1948, and because the incident involves only Jews and British, that article is not subject to the restriction (and by implication, neither do any articles that deal with events prior to May 1948, or that do not involve both Arabs and Jews). I think that can't be right, but perhaps I'm mistaken, so I think some clarification is needed. I've asked an uninvolved administrator (AGK) who has been active in enforcing arbitration requests here, and he has voiced agreement with my view (see http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AAGK&action=historysubmit&diff=433038275&oldid=433036853), but suggested it might be useful to ask for clarification here, as well. Red Stone Arsenal (talk) 15:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please stop making up stuff about what I said.I said that Israel was not formed at the time and that the incident involved the Jews and the British no Arabs.I did not say that all articles pre 1948 were not in the scope of the arbitration.Plus maybe someone should make it clear as to what articles are actually involved in that arbitration and also put headings on those talk pages so people know.Owain the 1st (talk) 15:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- The article on Irgun is under WP:ARBPIA, and the The Sergeants affair is about murders committed by Irgun. See Misplaced Pages:ARBPIA#Area of conflict. "The area of conflict in this case shall be considered to be the entire set of Arab-Israeli conflict-related articles, broadly interpreted." The phrase 'broadly interpreted' is significant. I agree that this article should have an ARBPIA banner. I see that one was placed on the talk page by Red Stone Arsenal on 6 June. EdJohnston (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Owain, I think it is impractical to find all articles that would fall under these restrictions and place banners on them. How can we find them? Besides, on Misplaced Pages, new articles are created every day. Thus such a banner is only placed once someone notiices that it is due. That is my understanding; I may be wrong. Cheers. - BorisG (talk) 17:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK but maybe it would be wise to inform people that if they start a page in that area that they need to put up that notice straight away to stop confusion when other people edit it.Owain the 1st (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I agree that the article is subject to ARBPIA. I just added the edit notice. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I cannot see that you have added anything on that page.It already has the notice on the talk page Owain the 1st (talk) 17:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you open an edit window, you'll see a warning that editors are limited to one reversion per day. That's the edit notice. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ah ok, I wondered what you were on about.Owain the 1st (talk) 17:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you open an edit window, you'll see a warning that editors are limited to one reversion per day. That's the edit notice. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I cannot see that you have added anything on that page.It already has the notice on the talk page Owain the 1st (talk) 17:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I agree that the article is subject to ARBPIA. I just added the edit notice. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 17:30, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK but maybe it would be wise to inform people that if they start a page in that area that they need to put up that notice straight away to stop confusion when other people edit it.Owain the 1st (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Owain, I think it is impractical to find all articles that would fall under these restrictions and place banners on them. How can we find them? Besides, on Misplaced Pages, new articles are created every day. Thus such a banner is only placed once someone notiices that it is due. That is my understanding; I may be wrong. Cheers. - BorisG (talk) 17:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- The article on Irgun is under WP:ARBPIA, and the The Sergeants affair is about murders committed by Irgun. See Misplaced Pages:ARBPIA#Area of conflict. "The area of conflict in this case shall be considered to be the entire set of Arab-Israeli conflict-related articles, broadly interpreted." The phrase 'broadly interpreted' is significant. I agree that this article should have an ARBPIA banner. I see that one was placed on the talk page by Red Stone Arsenal on 6 June. EdJohnston (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree that this article should fall under 1rr - generally I would suggest that in any situation involving editors known to be participating in I/P and in articles that could even tangentially be related to I/P it is much better to err on the side of caution, restraint and proper WP:DR venues. In general I would urge everyone to take to centralized discussions at WP:IPCOLL or specific noticeboards as soon as friction arises. un☯mi 17:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have removed a discussion between User:Red Stone Arsenal and several other contributors, that concerned Red Stone's history on Misplaced Pages and whether he had previously edited from another account. Whilst such discussions are undeniably valuable, especially in a topic area that suffers from sock-puppetry as frequently as does Israel/Palestine, the tone of the discussion was uncomfortably intense, and many of the participants were being unduly persistent. It was quite embarrassing, actually. That's a person behind that username, so enough with the hounding. Discussions concerning sock-puppetry should not be raised "since we're here", but rather in an appropriate venue—which would first be the editor's talk page, and then SPI. Take it to the appropriate place, folks. AGK 22:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have undid the restoration of the discussion. Just as administrators are authorised generally to put {{hat}}s over irrelevant discussion, so too can they remove discussion that is not on-topic, or is otherwise not productive or appropriate. We do not specify every minute eventuality in policy, because we follow the spirit, not the letter, of guidelines and other documents. Furthermore, this noticeboard is for the discussion of arbitration decisions that have an element of community enforcement. The above clarification thread relates to this process, but vague, not definitively–proven allegations of sock-puppetry do not. AGK 09:22, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- AGK has now twice deleted comments by six different users here that are relevant to the issue of new accounts with obviously experienced users behind them in the Israel/Palestine topic area. Interested parties may view the thread as it existed before each of his consecutive deletions here and here. Perhaps the content was technically off-topic for this thread; I had believed that the severe problem it concerns would not have been thought off-topic for this board. It's my belief that his repeated deletion was improper, but I won't engage in an edit war with him to restore the content. – OhioStandard (talk) 14:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have explained my action fully. While you may say it is incorrect, it is misleading to say it is inappropriate. If asked, I would probably say that linking to the removed comments is inappropriate on your part, but I am not going to delete the diffs. Regards, AGK 09:41, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
86.156.129.169 sockpuppetry
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Please could an admin or someone have a look at this User:86.156.129.169 and this User:86.141.5.100 and possibly this one as well User:86.154.7.171. I do not really know what is happening here but it does not look right.Seem to be new users who head straight to the same article.Some dodgy editing.Owain the 1st (talk) 20:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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Headbomb
No action taken. NW (Talk) 14:37, 11 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Request concerning Headbomb
As appropriate.
When I reminded Headbomb of the moratorium, he responded: "See WP:BUREAUCRACY and WP:IAR. These moves have nothing to do with the ARBCOM mess anyway."
Discussion concerning HeadbombStatement by HeadbombThis is pure sycophancy. These kind of move were never contentious, either pre- or post-ARBCOM crap (which I admittedly haven't followed). Proper titles either use colons or endashes (aka Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 or Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 1. I can move Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows − Part 1 (soundtrack) (which has a minus rather than an endash for some reason) to its proper title , but I can't move Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1 to its dashed version? That's a textbook case of WP:BUREAUCRACY. We're to have some titles with their improper hyphenated version, and some with their proper endashed version??? Give medals to Sarek for blindly following rules and admonish, ban, or permaban me to your heart's content, but this is as far as I indulge you in this exercise in futility. Deliberate all you want, I won't read it. Enjoy your circle jerk. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning Headbomb
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Russavia
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Request concerning Russavia
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Martin (talk) 22:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Russavia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys/Proposed_decision#Russavia_restricted
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 11 June 2011 Direct interaction by reverting my edit with an offensive edit comment about me casting my edit in bad faith: "reverting sneaking in of controversial changes to the article under the guise of a see-also link" , thus is a violation of Russavia's prohibition from commenting on or unnecessarily interacting with editors from the EEML case, except in the case of necessary dispute resolution.
- 11 June 2011 , edit warring with Sander Säde (talk · contribs), another breach of the interaction ban, one in which he can't possibly use the excuse that he wasn't aware that he was breaking his interaction ban.
- 17 May 2011 , violated the interaction ban by commenting on a AE request made by Piotrus (talk · contribs) - one in which he had no business commenting.
- Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)
Not applicable. Aware of the result of the ArbCom case.
- Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)
Block or ban
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
I was permitted to participate in the original WP:ARBRB case where my evidence and workshop suggestions where taken on board and subsequently led to Russavia's current interaction ban, therefore I have valid and legitimate cause to seek the Arbitration decision continues to be enforced.
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
Discussion concerning Russavia
Statement by Russavia
Who is Tammsalu? A couple of hours ago I skimmed thru their contribs and noticed that the editor had edited since several years ago, I just assumed that it was a long-standing editor I hadn't crossed paths with. Only just now, by way of Martintg posting to my user talk page, and starting this request and claiming a link to EEML, have I realised that User:Martintg has changed his username.
But even in that case, the edit by Tammsalu was not just the inclusion of a see-also link, but also rewording of information in an article which changes the complete meaning of what was written. I have reverted, and re-included the see-also link in my edit. There is no dispute here, nor should there be. As per Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive66#Russavia, editing the same article is not part of the restriction, neither is reverting, and as per Misplaced Pages:EDITSUMMARY#Always_provide_an_edit_summary I have provided an accurate edit summary, and the summary itself is not commenting on anyone's character - the edit summary offered by Tammsalu does not adequately describe their edit. I have taken note of Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys/Proposed_decision#Potential_problem_with_restrictions and act accordingly.
Also, might I add that Martintg, aka Tammsalu, is also bound by Misplaced Pages:EEML#Editors_restricted -- his bringing this to WP:AE is the manufacturing of a dispute by him, and this report is NOT a part of any reasonable dispute resolution process, and given history of harrassment of myself by those editors who are restricted from interacting with or commenting on myself, this is a furtherment of a battleground mentality that they swore to give up as they went back to the Arbitration Committee to have their return to this area of editing allowed by way of having their topic bans lifted. I believe it is quite telling that Martin has raced to AE to ask for a ban on myself, when there is no valid reason for any belief of his report being part of any reasonable dispute resolution process.
I would suggest that Tammsalu withdraw this frivolous battleground complaint (Misplaced Pages:EEML#Disruption_4) which is lacking in any good faith, and get back to editing, or I will ask that WP:BOOMERANG apply. --What's the difference between a straight and bisexual man? 00:07, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, instead of dropping his vexatious complaint, Martintg has decided to attempt to turn this into a battleground; something which I will not allow to occur and which I will not participate in. At no stage were interaction bans giving editors carte blanche to claim ownership of articles. Again I point admins to Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Russavia-Biophys/Proposed_decision#Potential_problem_with_restrictions; I have taken Carcharoth's comments on board; others should be doing the same. What Martintg fails to disclose is that WP:BRD has basically taken place at Talk:Russophobia#Aivars_Slutsis - and not a single complaint; discussion is able to occur. We are adults and we should act as such. Why is Martintg bringing this to WP:AE? Is that not just continuing with Misplaced Pages:EEML#Disruption_4? And breaching Misplaced Pages:EEML#Editors_restricted? It is in my opinion vexatious reporting, and should be seen as block/ban shopping on his part. I will offer to Martintg one last time to drop this frivolous complaint, and get back to editing, or I will ask that WP:BOOMERANG apply. And with that I am happily leaving Martintg alone on his battleground, but I will be happy to respond to any questions from admins. --What's the difference between a straight and bisexual man? 12:38, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning Russavia
In my view, the edit summary reverting sneaking in of controversial changes to the article under the guise of a see-also link is a personal attack. The editor needs to be reminded about the requirement to observe Misplaced Pages's civility policy. Clarified and expanded in response to a comment by user Igny below. - BorisG (talk) 00:56, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you refer to Russavia's edit summary then no, it is not. (Igny (talk) 03:50, 11 June 2011 (UTC))
- @Nanobear: I think both edit summaries are problematic, and both are at fault here. The former doesn't justify the latter. But I agree, given his own highly misleading edit summary, bringing this to AE can backfire. - BorisG (talk) 05:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- If my edit summary was seen as not properly reflecting the edit, then my bad, it wasn't intentional, more a function of laziness. Claiming it was "sneaky" is an assumption of bad faith gone too far and a personal attack. But that is not the point. The point is that Russavia is under an active Arbcom interaction ban. Now it is conceivable that he was unaware of my username change, but certainly edit warring with Sander Säde (talk · contribs) is a clear breach of that interaction ban. Both Nanobear (talk · contribs) (a.k.a Offliner and Russavia (talk · contribs) have a history of teaming together to tendentiously edit Baltic related topics in order to perpetuate the battleground against certain editors. I had hoped that Nanobear (talk · contribs) has moved on from that when he changed his name, but when Russavia turns up to revert my edit with an offensive comment and to begin edit warring while breaching his interaction ban in support of Nanobear, this is a return to the bad old days. The interaction ban was designed to stop precisely this kind of behaviour, and has been successful until now. --Martin (talk) 06:25, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- @Nanobear: I think both edit summaries are problematic, and both are at fault here. The former doesn't justify the latter. But I agree, given his own highly misleading edit summary, bringing this to AE can backfire. - BorisG (talk) 05:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Comment by Nanobear
- User Tammsalu edits: (edit summary: see also link) (Question: does this edit summary accurately describe his edit? Does the edit concern controversial material about ethnic and national disputes?)
- Russavia reverts: (reverting sneaking in of controversial changes to the article under the guise of a see-also link; which I will now be happy to go and add to the article)
That Tammsalu has chosen to report Russavia's edit summary as "offensive" just shows how frivolous this request is. Since when is accurately describing an edit a policy violation? Should we reward Tammsalu for the misleading edit summary?
This appears to be pure block shopping by Tammsalu. We should apply WP:BOOMERANG to stop this kind of battleground behaviour. ArbCom has previously found that Tammsalu was engaged in battleground behaviour and banned him. It seems that Tammsalu has learned nothing during his ban. Nanobear (talk) 12:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Result concerning Russavia
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