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Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (January 2005 to June 2005):
• Archive 2 (July 2005 to October 2005):
• Archive 3 (November 2005 to December 2005):
• Archive 4 (December 2005):
• Archive 5 (January 2006):
• Archive 6 (February 2006):

Vandalism

Hi, sorry for all that stuff. I was frustrated with PFHLai as he came off as condesending when he was questioning me about using the attribution tag. I was confused on how to tag this photo as a copyrighted image and didnt know about the image policies until later. My regards. S0berage 23:44, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

my apologies

Regarding the issue on copying other users' posts, I apologize for the misunderstanding. I should have gotten my facts straight first. --Ixfd64 22:45, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Forgit a-bout et.--MONGO 21:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

SA National parks stuff

Hi the MONGO, sorry to bother you. I really need to get back to creating articles, and I remembered that I had kind of promised to work on the SA parks area, do you still have all the stuff for me there? How are you doing these days? Cheers Banez 16:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

No thats all I need, that last external link is especially useful. Thank you very much for the links and help, I'm keen to get on to that as soon as possible, but right now I'm struggling with power failures and work. However, as I said, I'm keen to get to work in that area. Thanks again Banez 16:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It looks as though we have an understanding

MONGO-

Thanks to your excellent mediation efforts, it looks like the small dust-up with Andrewudstraw is over. I just posted to his talk page, and I think things have calmed down. Thanks again, and again, please if I can help with anything that you need, don't hesitate to ask. --rogerd 17:38, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem...I like to see happy campers.--MONGO 21:16, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for assistance

Since you have offered in the past, I'm requesting that you help mediate an issue on the Ward Churchill changes that I Lulu and I have been discussing. I know you have been following the discussion on the Churchill talk page, but I would appreciate it if you could look at the comment I left on the 9/11 essay controversy talk page. Based on my past experience with Lulu, and on some questionable responses from him in discussing this issue on the Churchill talk page, I do not have a high degree of confidence that this is going to be resolved simply between the two of us. As you and Lulu apparantly have a history of communication, and perhaps Lulu has a measure of trust in you, I think that maybe with your help this can be resolved amicably. Thanks in advance, – Doug Bell 20:06, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll take a lookie at it tonight.--MONGO 21:40, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your help. I would also appreciate any suggestions for how to deal with Lulu when he keeps disparaging my motives. I have worked very hard at assuming good faith even when it is clearly lacking, yet he continues. I thought that by refusing to be sucked into responding at his level that I could keep the discussion on a higher plane. Lulu is obviously capable, at least intellectually if not emotionally, of having the conversation on a higher plane, yet he continues with the personal attacks through innuendo. Any help appreciated. – Doug Bell 08:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Something's Rotten in the State of Talk:Jesus

Hey there. Can you run a checkuser for me between User:Robsteadman and User:Robeaston99? I suspect the possibility of sockpuppetry. The edits are suspicious (in that Robsteadman wouldn't edit his own article, but he might sock to do so). And mysteriously, that signature appeared on the vote board while Rob's choice was still losing. The similarities between the names are suspicious as well, and beyond that Robeaston mysteriously disappeared until round about the time that Rob started getting blocked. I've asked Ann to run a checkuser on it, but I think I'll probably need to get someone else, as she's voted on the table. I really don't want to cause trouble but if something foul is afoot, it needs to be uncovered. Thanks! --Avery W. Krouse 21:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Glacier retreat

Hi, MONGO. I'd already read Glacier retreat when it was new on FAC, because I have an unrequited love for such subjects. It looked great to me — I didn't notice anything missing! Sadly aware of my ignorance, I waited to see what other people would say, and lack of comprehensiveness does seem to be the main complaint. The thing is, you need to know something about a subject to spot stuff like that. In other words, no, I can't really comment, not usefully. I've made a shameless attempt to get my old friend User:Worldtraveller to take a look in my place; if he's so inclined, he would obviously be a great reviewer for you. Best wishes, Bishonen | ノート 21:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC).

Thank you!

Thank you! Hi MONGO, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 21:19, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Jimmywalter

Hello MONGO.

As you are an administrator, I'm asking for help with the article James W. Walter. Jimmywalter has inserted a massive diatribe into the article. Reading it confuses me, as he seems to switch between first and third person, so I'm not sure if this is a WP:POINT or WP:NOT violation. Frankly, I don't really know what's going on here.

It doesn't really matter; I tried reverting his edits, but he just reverts them back and adds onto them. I don't want to start an edit war, so I'm contacting you because I saw a message on his talk page from you.

Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Isopropyl 06:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Isopropyl 15:53, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Walmarting and Globilization

I saw that in your capacity as an admin you edited the latter article which has a link to the former. There's an AfD vote on Walmarting. Would you take a look? Thanks!--Beth Wellington 19:31, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually the revert was on the discussion page for globilization. Thanks for the offer of future help. I'm fairly new to wikipedia and I have found you administrators unfailingly helpful.--Beth Wellington 19:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Nice to meet you

Since you mentioned it, I'm about 3 minutes from the Hotel Roanoke (about a mile and a half ifrom the edge of Highland Park with its Alexander-Gish House, one of the oldest structures in the Roanoke Valley. It's named after James Alexander, an early settler in the area, who received a 1771 land grant of 150 acres along the Roanoke River from King George III. Sometime before 1838, a log structure was built on the site. The property changed hands several times, eventually belonging to Samuel H. Gish. The surrounding neighborhood, Old Southwest, where most of the houses date from the 1880's to the 1930's, has one of the largest concentrations of Victorian homes in the valley.--Beth Wellington 22:02, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendation. Most times I've been in WV it's been elsewhere, where there wasn't much fine dining, even in Charleston, the capital. Closest I've been to Montana is Kemmerer, Wyoming, the fossil fish capital of the world. Volcanic ash sifting down ensconsed whole lakes of creatures, most types of which exist today. There's one particularly magnificent example, I believe at the visitor center at Fossil Butte National Monument. Viewing it is like gazing at an aquarium where the medium rathe than water is stone.--Beth Wellington 17:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!

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Mongo. Hello I just recently authored and article with the heading E-snob or Electronic snobbing and I feel that you have unfairly removed this article without notice or reason. This, in my opinion is very rude and I am upset to have gone to alot of trouble to contribute to the wiki community and produce a new entry, only to have it whisked away.

After the page was created an 'importance' banner appeared which invited the use of the talk feature to discuss the article importance which had not been given a fair time duration to commence.

You may feel PERSONALLY that this article was not suitable, but is it up to one person to remove information from the public ? or is it up to the public to remove the information through a democractic proces of concensus?

Please re-post my original article and let the wiki community decide wheather or not they feel it is "important" , as I know there are many people across the internet community who feel and agree that the term described in my article is vaild and truely exsists.

I apologise for the format and manner in which this comment/request has been placed, as I am unaware of how else to contact you.

Kind regards. Author.

It's not an article...the term doesn't even exist. Basically, your article stated that an "E-snob" is someone who doesn't respond to email or instant messanger alerts...it's not an article because it is completely unreferenced, and was a sijmple speedy delete based on a number of reasons. It's gone, please spend your time here creating real encyclopedic articles rather than filling up Misplaced Pages with non articles. Thanks!--MONGO 19:36, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism by User:Snk 444

Continued discussion from Archive 6

Hi Mongo, I've had an close eye on this user for awhile now, and its clear his actions indicate trolling/vandlaism (see his contributions). He also has refused to engaged in discussion, and merely pops back into revert and blank articles. He's also quite found of personal attacks. I would inquire for an indefinite ban. -Zero 23:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

No, he is indeed an vandal and an disruption. Please see the history on the King article. He continues to return to the site at regular intervals and periodically removes large sections of data from the article. Per his talkpage, he made personal attacks towards I and another editor, and has desisted discussion regarding his behavior. That account only exsists to disrupt. He is no help to the community and he fails to learn. I humbly request an indefinite block. -Zero 19:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I left him a note...if he returns (since there is a long period of many days sometimes between his edits) then we can implement a block.--MONGO 19:51, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll assume good faith and hope for the best. However, if he reacts akin to the previous comments left on his talkpage, he'll regard your warning as little more than an nuisance and ignore it. I'll stand by and await developments. -Zero 19:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Let me know what happens--MONGO 19:57, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

He decided to listen to your warning...and utilize an sockpuppet: User:67.167.98.71. Block him. -Zero 14:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thank you! Thank you for your support in my recent RFA. It passed 53/1/2 and I am now an administrator. I appreciate that some of you made exceptions to your usual requirements re length of service and so on because we've interracted positively in the past, or because of my credentials, so I will endeavour to use my new mop cautiously. I'm always open to feedback and gently constructive criticism. If you're not an admin and need some assistance do of course please let me know. Thanks again --kingboyk 00:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. If you are interested in The Beatles, User:Lar has asked me to tag on a little note advertising the creation of a new Beatles WikiProject that we are currently setting up. Please sign up and help.

Thanks

No one has ever given me 100 million tonnes of ice before. I guess it is time for some serious snowcones. If you liked the map, you might enjoy a tour of my image gallery. Cheers. Dragons flight 05:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Your apology

I appreciate your apology. I was operating in the role as a reviewer and copy editor on the Glacial retreat article, not as a contributor, so in that role I am not making edits that change the semantics of the article. After putting so much work into reviewing and copy editing the article largely as a favor to you, to have you imply that my contributions may be in bad faith was hard to take. If my contributions there, where I went out of my way to avoid any edit controversy whatsoever, can be interpretted as bad faith, then I do wonder what the point is of continuing. I'm not thin-skinned, as perhaps you might conclude by my response to Lulu's claim that I was insulting him in my edit comments or by my response to your recent post on my talk page. However, when I work so hard to adhere to good faith and that faith is continually questioned, it undermines my motivation to continue here. Having to continually defend my honest intentions is not fun, and if it's not fun being here then there is no point to it. I'm going to have to think about whether to return or not for a while, at least until the shock caused by your comments subsides.

I wish you luck in getting the article to featured article status—I think it is an example of some of the best work here and I enjoyed making what small contributions I could. – Doug Bell 16:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Guanaco, MarkSweep, et al/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 16:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:One wrong move.....

I read your message about how you would permanently ban me if I made one wrong move.According to Misplaced Pages policy only those users who ONLY vandalise pages may be banned.I have added two new pages to Misplaced Pages-1]Bird Flu in India,2]Varanasi Temple Bombings.I have constructively edited the following pages-1]The O.C 2]Zee Cafe among others.Kindly tell me why you say I fit into the category of users who only vandalise pages.Also the tone of your message was somewhat threatening,alomst like something Tony Soprano would say to a rival "Capo".I am not trying to disrespect you in any way,I am just saying that it does not suit a wise and elderly administrator like you to openly threaten users.In future,please caution me in a more formal manner,as befits a administrator of your advanced experience and age.Thank You.Prasi90 03:17, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

This user thinks it is ironic that thanks for supporting Cyde's successful RFA came in the form of a userbox.

Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You asked

Yes, you see I have edited 2500 articles. I don't need to say much more. And when you look at my articles, you have no problems. I think I am at the admin level.

"Vandalism"

I am getting tired of Striver claiming "vandalism" on edit history's for any of his edits that get taken out. How much other Wikipedians are given this kind of liberty? --Jersey Devil 13:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

--Obli (Talk) 20:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

JDoorjam's RfA

Thank you! Hey MONGO, thank you for your support in my RfA: it passed with a final tally of 55/1/2. If you want a hand with anything, please gimme a shout. Again, thanks! – JDoorjam Talk 21:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Tony Sidaway

The article Jim Nussle has been repeatedly vandalized for partisan purposes by right-wing Republicans, or rather one such Republican and his various sock puppets. Then this right wing goon of an admin intrudes himself. To state it mildly, I am apoplectically angry at the sonofabitch. To respond to your message

• Was your partial blanking of User talk:Tony Sidaway intentional, or an accident? . --MONGO 12:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I would seem to have been. --FourthAve 23:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

This isn't the first time I've been called a "right wing goon" or something similar on Misplaced Pages. My political compass results seem to be consistently to the far left, libertarian parts of that compass, for what it's worth. My closes companions are Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama, although I'm considerably more to the libertarian end, by that organisation's measurement, than either. See this offsite GIF image. --Tony Sidaway 00:32, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Also, the evidence would lead most reasonable people to a different conclusion as to who the vandal is in this case. RfC on FourthAve. - Jaysus Chris 01:04, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Jaysus Chris routinely deletes any mention of Jim Nussle's adultery-drenched divorce; The 2nd Mrs. Nussle is the classic other woman, the homewrecking slut, in this instance, a Washington DC lobbyist who worked the K-Street Stroll: A K-Street whore. Jaysus Chris is blasphemous by his choice of user name: he clearly has a deep personal hatred of the Ten Commandments. --FourthAve 10:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

All I know is I posted a comment to Tony's talk page and then this FourthAve bloke deleted it along with a bunch of other comments. Now I see Tony blocked him for an hour prior to the blanking...looks like it's time for an improvement in attitude for this editor.--MONGO 02:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, see this and other stuff. --Tony Sidaway 03:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

MONGO, I've been dealing with FourthAve off and on since the beginning of the year. He's been consistantly adding extreme POV/vandalism to three articles (Jim Nussle, University of Dubuque, and Bob Vander Plaats). Things escalated at the end of last month and he's been raging ever since. A rough outline is available at the RfC. The silver lining of all this is that I'm learning a lot about Misplaced Pages beyond making simple edits. - Jaysus Chris 04:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Once again Jaysus Chris proves himself to be a vandal, a typically Republican vandal, like those in the Speakers office editing wikipedia for partisan advantage. I am so pissed off by him and his sock puppets. --FourthAve 10:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

MONGO, I had an interaction with FourthAve on 24 November 2005 that struck me as odd. I mention this in case this history is helpful. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I've reviewed the exchange. It's the Jim Nussle article again, and Jaysus Chris's vile habits. Jaysus Chris is a vandal, a troll, a piece of shit.--FourthAve 10:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I see...mine eyes have been opened. Okay, next little episode I see or am notified of and the warning will be strict.--MONGO 05:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Open your eyes again to a re-read of this whole, now-annotated exchange, all of which derives from the Jim Nussle article, and Jaysus Chris's vandalism.

--FourthAve 10:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I am a typical Democrat. I stand for social and economic justice. You guys apparently do not. Rather, you stand for the sockputtery of Jaysus Chris -- basically, why do you hate Jesus and believe the Ten Commandents are errant? I acutually object to adultery, but you as Republicans are dedicated to sock-pupptery, and sleeping-around is your version of Good-By-Jesus. Shall I call you a homosexual slut? Clearly, you belive adultery is a good wiki thing. --67.1.121.131 07:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hey MONGO, how is it going? Thank you for supporting my Request for adminship! It passed with a final vote of 73/1/1, which means that I have been granted adminship! I look forward to using these tools to enhance and maintain this wonderful site. I will continue regular article/project contributions, but I will also allocate a sizable portion of my wikischedule toward administrative duties :) Thanks again, and if you have any questions/comments/tips, please let me know! — Deckiller 04:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Please stop labelling my views as bigotry.

As you mus be knowing {old and experienced administrator that you are},Misplaced Pages users are allowed to write their beliefs in their userboxes-otherwise there would NOT be a "beliefs template" userbox.So if I believe in Anti-Americanism I would,according to Misplaced Pages policy be within my rights to express my views on my talk page.If you were indeed aagainst bigotry in all its forms you would have also edited the Anti-Pakistan comments on my userpage.Why did you not do so?I am not disrespecting you,I am merely asking why you{an aged and wise administrator} did not edit both comments.Please reply as soon as possible. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prasi90 (talk • contribs)

Labelling yourself as anti-American is bigotry, while stating that Pakistan is a military dictatorship is not an insult to Pakistani people, just their government...got it?--MONGO 08:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Your Plate is full

Just do a quick look-see to my edits. I worked the EB 1911 project, and about 1000 of my edits have been vaporized (I did annotations). After those vaporized ones, I have about 2500 edits.

I think Jaysus Chris is guilty of sockpuppetry. I can get very very angry when I've been abused by this bitch (this explains the past 36 hours of hotheadedness).

I would be happy if the Jim Nussle article fully acknowledges the messy nature of Jimbo's divorce, and its probable results on the November election. Ten Commandments

I've just edited Jim Nussle again, and it is hot-headed. I normally do articles on magazines I subscribe to New Yorker, the Atlantic, National Geographic, Journal of Indo-European Studies, etc. I remind you that Jim Nussle is running for my state's governorship; along with Jim Latham, Chuck Gipp, et al, all are local evil Republicans. I am partisan, but will debate, unlike Jaysuschris.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by FourthAve (talk • contribs)

Re:No personal insults

Earlier I had added two userboxes to my userpage.In one I stated-This user believes he is being harassed by the administrator M-N-O.Here I did not name any administrator in particular since there is no administrator named M-N-O.So it cannot be said that I was personally insulting anyone can it?Please clarify this.Also when I mentioned your name and said that you had deleyed what I had written in the userbox because you opposed my views I was saying the truth as can be seen by viewing my userpage history.Prasi90 11:18, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, this diff says a lot more than "M-N-O" doesn't it?. What part about being on probation do you not understand? You have had 4 different admins block you, so it's just a matter of time from what I can see. As far as your constanting asking me trollish questions here...it is disruption and another block is just around the corner...wake up.--MONGO 11:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Jackie Christie

Not sure how to go about placing Jackie's content on the site. I am her husband. She is standing here next to me as well. Take a look here http://www.myspace.com/amcoronany

Look at...User talk:Amcorona--MONGO 05:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Can this be put up for MFD?

Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Islam:The Shia Guild? It is pretty much what Striver did in the "Conspiracy Guild" Wikiproject to save his articles from afd's.--Jersey Devil 23:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

This other user, User:Northmeister, just broke the three revert rule on a afd page.

• First Revert
• Second Revert
• Third Revert
• Fourth Revert

In the past this user has been accused of being a Larouchite POV contributor.--Jersey Devil 05:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)