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AfD nomination of Steven Joseph Christopher

AFI

It's also worth noting that allmusic continues to list hardcore punk as one of their genres throughout their releases all the way up to today. It notes an increasingly wide spectrum of influences, but nevertheless, according to that source they are still playing hardcore punk. If you can provide sources that contradict it, that say "They don't still play hardcore punk", then you've got a case. Prophaniti (talk) 20:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

All music is an unreliable sack of shit for music genres. Here are multiple sources saying they are no longer a Hardcore punk band Hoponpop69 (talk) 03:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Hoponpop, even if they no longer write/market 'hardcore punk' those songs still exist, and are by the band. Therefore, the genre still fits. Landon1980 (talk) 04:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes the genre still belongs on the page but not in the intro sentence. The Beastie Boys were once a hardcore band, those songs still exist, but their intro sentence does not describe them as a hardcore punk band because like AFI they now primarily play a different genre of music.Hoponpop69 (talk) 16:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Tune in, Tokyo...

List of Offspring band members

I left a message about the prog tag on the List of Offspring band members article on the talk page. Alex (talk) 02:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Coffin Caddies

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Your tagging of record labels

Hoponpop69, please do not re-tag articles once a speedy-delete has already been declined. Also, please be aware that a record label does not have to be clearly notable (per WP:N) to escape a speedy, it only has to have some assertion of significance or importance. Most of the articles you are tagging would need an AfD discussion before they could be deleted. Thanks, Paul Erik 03:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

TNSrecords

Hoponpop69,

You have twice marked the TNSrecords article not notable, first in December 2008, and second in June 2009, twice it was rejected almost immediately, most recently by user "Paul Erik". What's more, when I created the article (having been surprised that no article already existed) I recieved the following message "I have no concerns that notability criteria have been met. " from user "LittleOldMe" when we discussed notability.

I must ask why you seem sop adamant to have the article, which clearly no one else has an issue with, deleted?

Mozza1979 (talk) 08:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Did I Do That? Hoponpop69 (talk) 22:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

List of Ramones concerts

• Hi, thanks for adding the Lollapalooza dates to the article. Do you have a reference for them? All of the previous dates all came from the same source and the hope was that more references would be added as time went on, this was the main concern when it was an AfD. Thanks J04n(talk page) 14:57, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Got it from here . Not sure if that is considered a reliable source or not.Hoponpop69 (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, there is no way to tell if the Ramones were even actually at each show. I'll see if I can find something better. Thanks J04n(talk page) 16:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Art punk and Avant-punk

Neither of these articles is on my watch list currently, and, frankly, I wash my hands of them. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 03:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

My point is that I am past caring. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 22:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Dude

Chill. --Closedmouth (talk) 15:29, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you?

In the page Emo you appear to have made a Revision as of 12:48, 1 September 2009. You added text and some references. One of those reference tags, <ref name="allmusic"/> appears to be causing a cite error. Could you please go back and fill out the full source to fix the cite error. Thanks. 75.69.0.58 (talk) 21:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Done.Hoponpop69 (talk) 03:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: At the Wake

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Speedy deletion nomination of Classics Of Love

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Speedy deletion declined: The Motorettes

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Speedy deletion declined: Crashcarburn

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Speedy deletion declined: New Adventures (band)

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Speedy deletion declined: Revolver (French band)

Hello Hoponpop69, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Revolver (French band) - a page you tagged - because: Appear to be signed to EMI which is enough tosave from speedy. Suggest WP:AFD as the appropriate forum. . Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Nancy 18:47, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Made of Hate

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If You Will

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Username spoofed

Hi, Hoponpop69. Prolific sockpuppeteer User:AFI-PUNK created a sock named User:Poponhop69, who vandalized your userpage. Can you recall having a run-in with this user (or one of his army of socks) in the past that would lead him to want to spoof your username? If so, and the account is still active, I'd like to see it also gets blocked -- any help appreciated. Cheers! --Rrburke 23:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I filed the first sock puppetry case against him , and spent a lot of tiem trying to get him banned. I guess he still holds a grudge.Hoponpop69 (talk) 23:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Cold War (band)

Hi. You recently nominated this article for speedy deletion per WP:CSD#A7. Digging deep into the reversion history, I discovered that the article was hijacked back in December 2009 with this edit. Whether the original band is more notable is a matter of taste, but I have reverted to the last "good" version and we can take it from there. Favonian (talk) 19:47, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Speedy declined on Mastercastle

Not much of a claim there, but signing a contract with a record label and releasing an album are enough to make it past CSD-A7. Taking it to PROD or AFD might be appropriate, because I agree that they might not be notable enough for inclusion.—Kww(talk) 22:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Awaken (band)

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Shitgaze deletion

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Speedy deletion declined: Geoff Byrd

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Gerbilling

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It was not a newbie move. The source intact referenced my edit, the article was even titled "From Gere to Eternity" and specifically mentions Richard Gere.Hoponpop69 (talk) 17:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Jared Lee Loughner

Can we please not do that? Per WP:BLP1E it is unlikely to stay. Prodego 08:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Why? This version is sourced, contains information that isn't in the shooting article, and resembles a biography of a living person rather than a stub.Hoponpop69 (talk) 08:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

JLL as atheist.

Hello. I think it's different when the AP says, flat out that Loughner is "an ardent atheist" and the Guardian says he is "a vigorous atheist". Neither reporter is quoting JLL's classmates. Isn't this why we rely on "reliable sources" -- at some point a statement becomes more of a fact and less of an opinion? If you see what I mean. --Kenatipo (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, then just merge that info and source into the current sentence instead of having the article with two similar sentences back to back.Hoponpop69 (talk) 19:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Re Jared Loughner's mental state

As I indicated in the edit summary, I think the quote you inserted regarding Loughner's mental state may violate WP:BLP policy. Could you discuss this on the article talk page? I've started a section for this. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

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I've declined all your proposed speedy-deletions of record labels just now

I've already asked you not to re-add speedy tags once a speedy has already been declined. I'm not sure if you realize that your persistence with this might start to come across as disruptive. Paul Erik 17:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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Hardcore punk's influence on other genres

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You commented that "it has nothing to do with anything relating to this article." If you truly feel that way, than discuss it at Talk:Hardcore punk. However, information about the fusion of hardcore punk subgenres and electronic music could not be in a better location. The section "Influence on other genres" appropriately contains information about the fusion of hardcore punk and a variety of other genres. Best wishes and happy editing :o) --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 17:39, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Be careful marking edits as minor

Hello, several of your edits on the hardcore page were marked as minor and had no rationale, but these edits were in fact removing bands from the page. According WP:VANDTYPES, marking non-minor edits as minor can be seen as gaming the system and a type of vandalism. I am sure that you meant no ill intent, but please refrain from doing this in the future. Thanks,--3family6 (talk) 21:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

AC/DC

It would be good to use a small amount of common sense with the discography section of the AC/DC article. The non-Australian release of High Voltage was not at any point issued or marketed as a compilation, and in terms of almost the entire world, it was unreleased material. I assume you are not saying that High Voltage and Iron Man 2 are essentially the same type of album. High Voltage was the first release outside Australia, and to omit it from a discography is misleading and confusing. Nobody's saying we should add Greatest Hits albums, which is what those small discography sections are supposed to omit. If anything, the two Australian albums should be set aside from the rest, with a proper international discography underneath - that would be the sensible route to take. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I am using common sense, it doesn't matter if it wasn't available in most of the world, it is still old material being reissued, and not a studio album. If you look at other pages discography sections, like The Clash, you don't see the distinct U.S. and U.K. versions of their first album listed.Hoponpop69 (talk) 00:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, in that case, obviously - the thing to do is to remove the local issues. I see you just edit war in lieu of a proper discussion. You are wrong, but it's just a case of "I'm right, and the page 'will reflect my views". Top editing. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I have started a discussion at Talk:AC/DC#High Voltage in discography section, where a consensus can be established. Your analogy of The Clash is not really the same issue, and your claim that "it doesn't matter if it wasn't available in most of the world" appears to be unsubstantiated. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Will you stop edit-warring? I left the discography section at your preferred version to avoid an edit war which you were intent on continuing, and started a discussion. Then you start another edit war at the lead section, over the pettiest thing. Start a discussion if you don't like something, per the guidelines. Bretonbanquet (talk) 10:12, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how that at all can be considered a controversial edit. It's simple common sense, to either list all the dates or none of them, as it is currently completely inconsistent. It seems like you are picking on me, and just trying to goad me by reverting non-controversial edits. I find it hard to believe that you honestly think the version listing two exact dates, and years for all the rest, better than a consistent version.Hoponpop69 (talk) 17:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

So you keep doing it... read WP:3RR. You keep reverting to your version, away from the established version, despite the fact there's a discussion going on? Anyway, what are you even talking about - "all the rest"? Only three albums have a release date mentioned, and two have the full date - the first and the last. I'm picking on you? When you edit-war against me and others on a daily basis over trivial matters? I'll tell you what's non-controversial, and that's having a full release date for a couple of albums in the lead. I don't care one bit what you find hard to believe. You need to try engaging in discussion instead of reverting to whatever version you like best, not doing both. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:28, 23 June 2011 (UTC)